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(Asia Times)   India looking strong in the race to be the next region to hit 'day zero' water. Also in the running: Spain, Morocco, and Iraq. Step on up, place your bets   ( atimes.com) divider line
    More: Scary, Madhya Pradesh, extremely dry conditions, World Resources Institute, water crisis, States and territories of India, fast depleting reservoirs, experience water shortages, new satellite  
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2018-04-16 09:20:34 PM  
I thought Yemen already won that prize?
 
2018-04-17 04:41:09 AM  
This reads like the intro to a dystopian sci Fi movie.
 
2018-04-17 05:59:02 AM  
The reservoirs are drying up ahead of the hottest summer months. That is pretty terrifying.
 
2018-04-17 06:49:15 AM  

NewportBarGuy: I thought Yemen already won that prize?


Nobody "lives" in Yemen
 
2018-04-17 07:23:39 AM  
Climate change is going to mess with how long the snowfalls stay in the mountains and, inevitably, how much water people will be getting in the spring...
 
2018-04-17 07:24:18 AM  
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2018-04-17 07:38:30 AM  
So tell me again what the problem is with industrial scale desalination? I remember commercials from Dow or some such plastics company back in the early 90s bragging about their breakthrough desal tech? You would think that Nestlé would be all over that shiat.
 
2018-04-17 07:39:49 AM  

thespindrifter: So tell me again what the problem is with industrial scale desalination? I remember commercials from Dow or some such plastics company back in the early 90s bragging about their breakthrough desal tech? You would think that Nestlé would be all over that shiat.


1. The power requirements and cost
2. Getting rid of the salt
 
2018-04-17 07:44:45 AM  
So mismanaged places in already arid environments dealing with climate change and its effects have even less water?  That's not Scary, that's Obvious.

Subby apparently didn't scroll down and read the next article.  That was horrible and scary.

WTF kind of a sick person chokes out a 2yo to the point of being brain dead, beats them and leaves bruises all over the body, and still manages to cover their legs, buttocks, and genitals with 2nd degree burns.  I suggest we beat them with soap and rags, dump boiling water on them, and hang them with a short rope so they slowly choke to death.  F*ck those parents.
 
2018-04-17 07:46:30 AM  

BafflerMeal: thespindrifter: So tell me again what the problem is with industrial scale desalination? I remember commercials from Dow or some such plastics company back in the early 90s bragging about their breakthrough desal tech? You would think that Nestlé would be all over that shiat.

1. The power requirements and cost
2. Getting rid of the salt


1. It's the Middle East.  Burn more oil to run the plants.
2. It's the Middle East.  Dump it on someone who prays to the wrong god, or prays to the right god in the wrong way.

/I never said they were helpful solutions
 
2018-04-17 07:51:06 AM  
Wow, and India's already saving all that money by just pooping in the streets instead of wasting water flushing.
 
2018-04-17 07:51:40 AM  
 
2018-04-17 07:52:15 AM  
ZeroWater makes a mighty fine product.  The wife and I got one of these as a gift a few years back.  It's awesome.

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Wait...  what's this all about again?
 
2018-04-17 07:52:22 AM  

thespindrifter: So tell me again what the problem is with industrial scale desalination? I remember commercials from Dow or some such plastics company back in the early 90s bragging about their breakthrough desal tech? You would think that Nestlé would be all over that shiat.


India already has a bunch of desalination plants, but they come with a large cost to construct and operate, and they do serious environmental damage. Desal can help, but it just isn't economically feasible to compensate for the way India is using water.
 
2018-04-17 07:52:46 AM  

Weaver95: This reads like the intro to a dystopian sci Fi movie.


I'm pretty sure we are in the opening chapters of a dystopian sci Fi movie.  I think the sane part of the multiverse split from our continuum sometime in the late 60s.
 
2018-04-17 07:58:34 AM  
Here's an idea. Stop using the rivers as sewers, and start using them as water supplies!

Half-burnt decomposing corpses need to be buried, not set afloat on the Ganges.
 
2018-04-17 07:58:53 AM  
It's such a shame our species has so much trouble organizing governments which manage our societies and resources wisely for the benefit of all rather than to protect the benefits and privilege of a few.
 
2018-04-17 08:01:51 AM  
Maybe they should ban the word water. Then it can't be a problem.
 
2018-04-17 08:05:45 AM  
Amazingly, the hippies and ecologists talking about "ecosystem services" and "limits to growth" and "sustainability" might be totally right. All that talk of how global warming was going to screw us seems oddly on target too.

It's like the people we subtly marginalized because they were "bad for business" were not farking around.
 
2018-04-17 08:08:45 AM  
Flint, Michigan would like a word.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2018-04-17 08:09:20 AM  
Summer is monsoon season in India.
 
2018-04-17 08:18:23 AM  
Yawn.  I'm sure there no way we're heading towards major water shortages and massive land wars between major Asian countries over Himalayan water rights.  Carry on people, nothing to see here.
 
2018-04-17 08:20:30 AM  

BafflerMeal: thespindrifter: So tell me again what the problem is with industrial scale desalination? I remember commercials from Dow or some such plastics company back in the early 90s bragging about their breakthrough desal tech? You would think that Nestlé would be all over that shiat.

1. The power requirements and cost
2. Getting rid of the salt


3. And once you spend a couple billion to build it, the rains come back.
 
2018-04-17 08:24:50 AM  
India's population of 1.3 billion might be part of the problem.
 
2018-04-17 08:32:42 AM  

Cache: Flint, Michigan would like a word.


The problem with Flint was/is stupidity and stubbornness, not lack of rainfall.
 
2018-04-17 08:38:14 AM  
Looks like time for more babies.  Throw in some tax cuts.  Oughtta work itself out in no time flat.
 
2018-04-17 08:38:46 AM  

JAYoung: BafflerMeal: thespindrifter: So tell me again what the problem is with industrial scale desalination? I remember commercials from Dow or some such plastics company back in the early 90s bragging about their breakthrough desal tech? You would think that Nestlé would be all over that shiat.

1. The power requirements and cost
2. Getting rid of the salt

3. And once you spend a couple billion to build it, the rains come back.


Sure as Kilimanjaro rises like Olympus abov the Serengeti
 
2018-04-17 08:42:07 AM  
i'm thinking of trying the freeze dried water
just add hot coffee
 
2018-04-17 08:47:02 AM  

vudukungfu: NewportBarGuy: I thought Yemen already won that prize?

Nobody "lives" in Yemen


Oh yeah?

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Number 1, Yemen Road, Yemen.
 
2018-04-17 08:49:24 AM  

adamatari: Amazingly, the hippies and ecologists talking about "ecosystem services" and "limits to growth" and "sustainability" might be totally right.


You know, a nuclear war provides all three.
 
2018-04-17 08:50:03 AM  

Cache: Flint, Michigan would like a word.


The problem in Flint is the condition of pipes on the house side of the system. The water and the distribution are fine.
 
2018-04-17 08:59:16 AM  
I am always surprised that the 'stillsuits' from Dune novels have not actually been made yet (that I know of).
 
2018-04-17 09:01:49 AM  

give me doughnuts: Cache: Flint, Michigan would like a word.
The problem with Flint was/is stupidity and stubbornness, not lack of rainfall.


Same result.
 
2018-04-17 09:02:38 AM  
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ZAZ [TotalFark]
2018-04-17 09:03:50 AM  
ObscureNameHere

MIT announced a device for getting water out of desert air. http://news.mit.edu/2018/field-tests-​d​evice-harvests-water-desert-air-0322. Halfway to Dune.
 
2018-04-17 09:06:47 AM  

ZAZ: ObscureNameHere

MIT announced a device for getting water out of desert air. http://news.mit.edu/2018/field-tests-d​evice-harvests-water-desert-air-0322. Halfway to Dune.


Problem is you have to buy all your spare parts second hand from Jawas.
 
2018-04-17 09:15:08 AM  

ZAZ: ObscureNameHere

MIT announced a device for getting water out of desert air. http://news.mit.edu/2018/field-tests-d​evice-harvests-water-desert-air-0322. Halfway to Dune.


Star Wars.  That was literally Luke's family business.
 
2018-04-17 09:18:15 AM  
Brantford is running out of water?
 
2018-04-17 09:22:38 AM  
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Right. That's why I got out of oil and into water. Guess which will be more valuable in 50 years?
 
2018-04-17 09:45:21 AM  
I've already got money on Yemen but I'm also betting on Afghanistan
 
2018-04-17 09:50:39 AM  

hashtag.acronym: ZAZ: ObscureNameHere

MIT announced a device for getting water out of desert air. http://news.mit.edu/2018/field-tests-d​evice-harvests-water-desert-air-0322. Halfway to Dune.

Star Wars.  That was literally Luke's family business.


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2018-04-17 09:55:23 AM  

ZAZ: ObscureNameHere

MIT announced a device for getting water out of desert air. http://news.mit.edu/2018/field-tests-d​evice-harvests-water-desert-air-0322. Halfway to Dune.


Well, the stillsuit would recycle the body's own moisture into potable water.   The ingenious thing about their design in the books was that the pumps were in the heels of the suit so simply by walking you kept the suit operational.

Of course in our world, the people who would need the stillsuits would not be just 'given' them, and the ones who need them most couldn't afford them.
 
2018-04-17 09:55:45 AM  

Bondith: BafflerMeal: thespindrifter: So tell me again what the problem is with industrial scale desalination? I remember commercials from Dow or some such plastics company back in the early 90s bragging about their breakthrough desal tech? You would think that Nestlé would be all over that shiat.

1. The power requirements and cost
2. Getting rid of the salt

1. It's the Middle East.  Burn more oil to run the plants.
2. It's the Middle East.  Dump it on someone who prays to the wrong god, or prays to the right god in the wrong way.

/I never said they were helpful solutions


So you're saying they should move India to the Middle East?
 
2018-04-17 09:58:28 AM  

dyfsunctional: Bondith: BafflerMeal: thespindrifter: So tell me again what the problem is with industrial scale desalination? I remember commercials from Dow or some such plastics company back in the early 90s bragging about their breakthrough desal tech? You would think that Nestlé would be all over that shiat.

1. The power requirements and cost
2. Getting rid of the salt

1. It's the Middle East.  Burn more oil to run the plants.
2. It's the Middle East.  Dump it on someone who prays to the wrong god, or prays to the right god in the wrong way.

/I never said they were helpful solutions

So you're saying they should move India to the Middle East?


Who do you think is going to build all the desal plants?

/I fixated on Yemen in the headline and got a little carried away, plus it was stupidly early and my brain wasn't firing on all cylinders yet
 
2018-04-17 10:00:57 AM  

BafflerMeal: thespindrifter: So tell me again what the problem is with industrial scale desalination? I remember commercials from Dow or some such plastics company back in the early 90s bragging about their breakthrough desal tech? You would think that Nestlé would be all over that shiat.

1. The power requirements and cost
2. Getting rid of the salt


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Give the salt to Indians. They love that shiat.
 
2018-04-17 10:02:19 AM  
Does Apple.and their day 0 exploits know no end?
 
2018-04-17 10:04:32 AM  

jgilb: India's population of 1.3 billion might be part of the problem.


Apparently it won't be for long.
 
2018-04-17 10:06:31 AM  

Bondith: Who do you think is going to build all the desal plants?


Well, Nixon sent fertilizer factories to China...
 
2018-04-17 10:07:33 AM  
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2018-04-17 10:08:19 AM  

roc6783: jgilb: India's population of 1.3 billion might be part of the problem.

Apparently it won't be for long.


(O_o)? What, the Pakis getting uppity over the wool again, or is the Sinon Empire pissing on their territorial peninsula again?
 
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