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(Indy100)   "Murray was on The Death March west from Birkenau as Russian soldiers advanced from the east. He was tired, cold, and hungry. He saw something in the air, descending towards him. It hit him in the chest, and he caught it. A 2-lb piece of roast beef"   ( indy100.com) divider line
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2018-04-16 01:13:22 PM  
Big Sonia is a pretty good documentary in the same vein as TFA.
 
2018-04-16 01:24:52 PM  
I remember back in college when a Holocaust survivor came to speak to us.  "Powerful" does not do his appearance justice; he even showed us his "tattoo" that the Nazis gave him.

Anyone who denies that the Holocaust happened is too naive to talk to.
 
2018-04-16 01:55:42 PM  
"My mother was a Holocaust denier. After years of teaching her she was wrong, she finally believed it happened, but now she doesn't believe why it only happened once!"
 
2018-04-16 02:25:43 PM  
Beautiful, naked, big-titted women don't just fall out of the sky, ya know!
 
2018-04-16 03:28:54 PM  

Rwa2play: I remember back in college when a Holocaust survivor came to speak to us.  "Powerful" does not do his appearance justice; he even showed us his "tattoo" that the Nazis gave him.

Anyone who denies that the Holocaust happened is too naive to talk to.



IIRC, I've only met one Holocaust survivor....one of my uncle's friends.  He never talked about his experience, but he showed me the tattoo once.  But what really stood out was his hugely positive attitude about everything...after all he had been through.  Jack, if you are out there and still alive, I hope life is treating you well.
 
2018-04-16 04:29:31 PM  
Is there anything Arby's can't do?
 
2018-04-16 04:29:51 PM  
What did Hope Solo do now?
 
2018-04-16 04:32:23 PM  

Rwa2play: I remember back in college when a Holocaust survivor came to speak to us.  "Powerful" does not do his appearance justice; he even showed us his "tattoo" that the Nazis gave him.

Anyone who denies that the Holocaust happened is too naive to talk to.


"Naive" is an incredibly gracious term for you to use
 
2018-04-16 04:34:46 PM  
Grandpa was wondering where that went. Give it back!
 
2018-04-16 04:35:05 PM  

Tell Me How My Blog Tastes: Beautiful, naked, big-titted women don't just fall out of the sky, ya know!


What?
 
2018-04-16 04:35:53 PM  

Tell Me How My Blog Tastes: Beautiful, naked, big-titted women don't just fall out of the sky, ya know!


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Two out of three ain't bad.
 
2018-04-16 04:36:10 PM  
The Nazis rode in tanks and jeeps alongside the march. One probably thought it'd be funny to toss the food into the crowd and watch the Jews fight over it.

An inventive sadist would have done something like...
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2018-04-16 04:36:52 PM  
Twatter is the right platform for stories like this.

/please like, comment and subscribe
//or whatever Twatters equvalent is
///waiting for the Boobies who wonders why he didn't share the food
 
2018-04-16 04:38:00 PM  

The Pope of Manwich Village: Is there anything Arby's can't do?


They have the meats.  Or, so I've heard somewhere.
 
2018-04-16 04:39:47 PM  

Rwa2play: I remember back in college when a Holocaust survivor came to speak to us.  "Powerful" does not do his appearance justice; he even showed us his "tattoo" that the Nazis gave him.

Anyone who denies that the Holocaust happened is too naive to talk to.


My pediatrician, back when I was a kid, had one of those tattoos.
 
2018-04-16 04:40:57 PM  
Damn right, never again!

Genocide should be publicized over and over. It happens too often and the US is as guilty as any other country in failing to take action to stop it.
 
2018-04-16 04:41:27 PM  

bedtundy: The Pope of Manwich Village: Is there anything Arby's can't do?

They have the meats.  Or, so I've heard somewhere.


Aren't they one of the few remaining Laura Ingraham sponsors?
 
2018-04-16 04:41:50 PM  

The_Sponge: But what really stood out was his hugely positive attitude about everything


As opposed to what? How you expected him to behave? He had a bad run, it wasn't continuously pound into him from his youth onward. A person bouncing back to their "normal" is the default thing to do (plus or minus some ptsd).

Even people who become quadriplegics rate their life a 7 out of 10 once they get past the whole "shiat, I became quadriplegic" phase.
 
2018-04-16 04:41:56 PM  

WhiskeyBender: "My mother was a Holocaust denier. After years of teaching her she was wrong, she finally believed it happened, but now she doesn't believe why it only happened once!"


It didn't.

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2018-04-16 04:43:40 PM  
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2018-04-16 04:43:57 PM  

Truck Fump: Damn right, never again!

Genocide should be publicized over and over. It happens too often and the US is as guilty as any other country in failing to take action to stop it.


What sort of action?
 
2018-04-16 04:45:41 PM  
other nations, their governments and the militaries they controlled, allowed this to take place. they have allowed other dictators to rein hell over the masses in lands around the world. they are just as horrible as those they allowed to do evil.
 
2018-04-16 04:46:25 PM  

sex_and_drugs_for_ian: Truck Fump: Damn right, never again!

Genocide should be publicized over and over. It happens too often and the US is as guilty as any other country in failing to take action to stop it.

What sort of action?


The...stopping kind.
 
2018-04-16 04:46:32 PM  
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2018-04-16 04:48:26 PM  

Snarfangel: sex_and_drugs_for_ian: Truck Fump: Damn right, never again!

Genocide should be publicized over and over. It happens too often and the US is as guilty as any other country in failing to take action to stop it.

What sort of action?

The...stopping kind.


An invasion maybe?
 
2018-04-16 04:48:33 PM  
I've read a number of stories about the march the germans made POWs and Jews do in '45. It's gut wrenching, just as bad and possibly worse than the bataan death march.
 
2018-04-16 04:49:00 PM  

The Pope of Manwich Village: Is there anything Arby's can't do?


Okay, I'm tired of waiting for the obligatory...
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2018-04-16 04:49:02 PM  

mrwippl3: Tell Me How My Blog Tastes: Beautiful, naked, big-titted women don't just fall out of the sky, ya know!

What?


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2018-04-16 04:53:42 PM  

DerAppie: The_Sponge: But what really stood out was his hugely positive attitude about everything

As opposed to what? How you expected him to behave? He had a bad run, it wasn't continuously pound into him from his youth onward. A person bouncing back to their "normal" is the default thing to do (plus or minus some ptsd).

Even people who become quadriplegics rate their life a 7 out of 10 once they get past the whole "shiat, I became quadriplegic" phase.



You're right....but I didn't expect him to be a downer, either.  I just remember him as one of the happiest people you would see in that bar/restaurant.  (He was a regular.)
 
2018-04-16 04:54:08 PM  

sex_and_drugs_for_ian: Truck Fump: Damn right, never again!

Genocide should be publicized over and over. It happens too often and the US is as guilty as any other country in failing to take action to stop it.

What sort of action?


You draw a red line in the sand, and hope that's enough for them to stop lobbing chemical weapons to the other side?

It's a hard problem: There is always some uncertainty about what happens, genocidal regimes always have military allies, and intervention is a hard sell to the domestic audiences in countries that might be willing to intervene.
 
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2018-04-16 04:56:55 PM  

dittybopper: WhiskeyBender: "My mother was a Holocaust denier. After years of teaching her she was wrong, she finally believed it happened, but now she doesn't believe why it only happened once!"

It didn't.

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when I was a child in the early eighties, we had an elderly couple as neighbors across the street. Their last name was Yagmourian or something to that effect, I was young enough that I knew how to pronounce it but I never saw it written down.

The Yagmourians had both been young children in Armenia during the Armenian Holocaust. Neither really talked about it but as far as I could infer from my parents talking with neighbors, both had lost portions of their immediate families. Mr. Yagmourian's retirement hobby was creating artwork with wood, cutting, shaping, staining, and laying-out pieces of wood to make 2d sculpture. Birds were his primary subject but he occasionally got in others like flowers. Both of them seemed both sad yet joyful to be alive, and both were kind to the children in the neighborhood even if we weren't always as kind in-return as we should have been.

We moved from that neighborhood in the early nineties, and didn't really hear anything of them after that. I expect that both of them are no longer with us. I think that my parents still have one of his wood sculptures, a hummingbird hovering as if to approach a flower.
 
2018-04-16 05:00:19 PM  
But then he went on to become a Bond villain.  I bet the beef thrower didn't expect that.
 
2018-04-16 05:00:59 PM  
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Liviu Librescu had one of those too.

Dr Librescu died 11 years ago today, holding the classroom door to give his students time to escape out the window as Seung-Hui Cho was trying to get in.  As a result of his actions, only one student in his classroom was killed; the others managed to get out.

Here's the memorial stone with his name from the memorial on the Virginia Tech campus.

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2018-04-16 05:03:16 PM  

Dork Gently: sex_and_drugs_for_ian: Truck Fump: Damn right, never again!

Genocide should be publicized over and over. It happens too often and the US is as guilty as any other country in failing to take action to stop it.

What sort of action?

You draw a red line in the sand, and hope that's enough for them to stop lobbing chemical weapons to the other side?

It's a hard problem: There is always some uncertainty about what happens, genocidal regimes always have military allies, and intervention is a hard sell to the domestic audiences in countries that might be willing to intervene.


Given the article, I assumed he was pointing to the Holocaust in particular.
 
2018-04-16 05:04:11 PM  

fragMasterFlash: bedtundy: The Pope of Manwich Village: Is there anything Arby's can't do?

They have the meats.  Or, so I've heard somewhere.

Aren't they one of the few remaining Laura Ingraham sponsors?


Don't know.  Don't eat there, anyway.
 
2018-04-16 05:05:18 PM  

Tell Me How My Blog Tastes: mrwippl3: Tell Me How My Blog Tastes: Beautiful, naked, big-titted women don't just fall out of the sky, ya know!

What?

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I mean, I get it. And it sounds wonderful. Just doesn't seem germane, that's all.

But with regards to these women falling from the sky, assuming they do so safely and into my immediate vicinity, consider me on board.
 
2018-04-16 05:06:55 PM  

WelldeadLink: Grandpa was wondering where that went. Give it back!


Your grandfather was a nazi?
 
2018-04-16 05:11:52 PM  

johnny_vegas: Rwa2play: I remember back in college when a Holocaust survivor came to speak to us.  "Powerful" does not do his appearance justice; he even showed us his "tattoo" that the Nazis gave him.

Anyone who denies that the Holocaust happened is too naive to talk to.

"Naive" is an incredibly gracious term for you to use


Let's put it to you this way: If you lived through 9/11 but think the Holocaust never happened, then you're a goddamn moron.
 
2018-04-16 05:17:21 PM  
The tattoo, 161108, was given to him at Birkenau.

Thank, IBMama.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/edwin-​b​lack/ibm-holocaust_b_1301691.html
 
2018-04-16 05:19:06 PM  
Yes, let's not forget how extremists love scapegoating others. Let's accept that they are just exercising their 1st Amendment rights.
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These pieces of drech make me want to exercise some 2nd Amendment rights, just like Herr Trumpenfuhrer told them they could do, too. Equal rights, you know?
 
2018-04-16 05:20:00 PM  
It wasn't just Jews in those camps.
 
2018-04-16 05:22:16 PM  
I had a coupe of friends in Chicago. She just died, and was a good bit younger then he is. He's still around, in his nineties. He's got a number tattooed on his arm. I also have a good friend in Baltimore whose parents met in the camps, with numbers on their arms.

There are things that aren't funny, ever.
 
2018-04-16 05:28:48 PM  

Peter von Nostrand: I've read a number of stories about the march the germans made POWs and Jews do in '45. It's gut wrenching, just as bad and possibly worse than the bataan death march.


Ouch! I don't know man. The Japanese were known to be exceptionally cruel bloodthirsty savages. I've read where soldiers were relieved they were given orders to fight in Europe as opposed to heading to fight those heathens.
 
2018-04-16 05:30:53 PM  
WE HAVE THE MEATS!
 
2018-04-16 05:36:40 PM  

Ooba Tooba: Peter von Nostrand: I've read a number of stories about the march the germans made POWs and Jews do in '45. It's gut wrenching, just as bad and possibly worse than the bataan death march.

Ouch! I don't know man. The Japanese were known to be exceptionally cruel bloodthirsty savages. I've read where soldiers were relieved they were given orders to fight in Europe as opposed to heading to fight those heathens.


A lot of that was just propaganda.  It was just standard run of the mill cruelty.
 
2018-04-16 05:37:29 PM  

mrwippl3: Tell Me How My Blog Tastes: mrwippl3: Tell Me How My Blog Tastes: Beautiful, naked, big-titted women don't just fall out of the sky, ya know!

What?

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I mean, I get it. And it sounds wonderful. Just doesn't seem germane, that's all.

But with regards to these women falling from the sky, assuming they do so safely and into my immediate vicinity, consider me on board.


I mean, if you're on a death march & a 2lb, life-saving roast beef falls in your arms, it seems to me I'd be asking what other miracles could fall out of the sky and right into my arms. How is this not germane?
 
2018-04-16 05:40:23 PM  
I can believe the roast beef story. It could have been stolen by a crow, raven or perhaps even an eagle if it were left on an outdoors table.

It is improbable but not strictly impossible or unbelievable.
 
2018-04-16 05:50:14 PM  
Growing up in So. Florida, as a teenager (thru the mid/late 70's) I was a regular at Miami's fishing piers. Regular enough that the often cranky retirees came to at least tolerate my presence.  Long story shortened, several of them were concentration camp survivors. A few were willing to share parts of their experience. I'd seen pictures and read about the atrocities. To see into the eyes of a person retelling of such horror was quite moving, and has stayed with me to this day.

/RIP Teddy, et al
 
2018-04-16 05:58:35 PM  
What about the real Holocausts (with a capitol H)?  The ones that happened to the Russians and Chinese. 25-30 million Russian dead and a near equal number of Chinese.  The Jewish losses pale in comparison yet they are the only people spoken of when WWII mass murder is discussed.  This is infinitely disrespectful to the overwhelming majority of victims.
 
2018-04-16 06:02:56 PM  
My neighbor directly across the street is in his 90's and told me of his youth one day after yelling at me to fix my driveway. I had a root from the neighbors tree pushing up my concrete pad about an inch or so. I was a stonecutter at the time unbeknownst to him, and was awaiting a couple of 6" granite blades to come to my shop, and then I was going to cut it down but his daughter bottomed out in her low profile vehicle while turning around in my drive, and the old neighbor who never talked let me up! "Fix your damn driveway! Can't you see your concrete is raised?!! What the hell is the matter with you?!!" in a strong Polish accent. I went in the house and grabbed my saw, new blades, knee pads and dust mask and started ripping strips of the concrete away. It filled our quiet street with noise and dust. I used a carbide drum to make it pretty again after it was evened out. Took about 2 hrs. When I was sweeping up the chunks the old man walked over and I could tell he felt bad by the look on his face. He said "You didn't have to do it right that minute." Ha! I just laughed and said I guess I needed a kick in the pants to get started. He admired my work and then talked of having experience working with rock as well. When he was 13 his village in Poland was raided by Nazis and his father, and mother were shot. He and his brother were taken prisoner and made to dig ditches, trenches, and graves, and to build roads and bridges for German tanks to travel across. For the entire duration of the war. He said the Germans used to tell him "You should be thankful you are working with us, and not Uncle Joe (Stalin). He is much more cruel to his laborers." He then told me that they were right. After the Russians took Berlin they took my neighbor back to Russia to be a slave in the coal mines. Starvation, disease, and the threat of death from the Russians, and other prisoners weared on him for 2 long years until he escaped with a few others and made it to a ship to America where he promptly joined the Army and was sent to Africa. I was pretty much speechless. He said he would bring his violin over sometime because he saw me playing acoustic once at a block party. I said yeah we could jam. He then asked if I knew Tales from the Vienna Woods by Strauss. I do not. I was thinking maybe some Creedence. He scares my wife because he still climbs up on his roof to sweep off leaves and repair shingles.
/sorry for the long story
 
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