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2018-04-15 09:42:55 AM  
No, subby, this is the dawn of civilization:

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2018-04-15 10:03:50 AM  
Not just teens, subby.  My boss, who is almost 50, is also obsessed with Fortnite.

*shrug*
 
2018-04-15 10:27:28 AM  
Teenager is a modern construct. Before that children toiled at hard labour to help the family, then got married and toiled some more as adults
 
2018-04-15 10:38:44 AM  
Recently downloaded Fortnite because my nephews were over and they kept talking about it so I downloaded to let them play. Looks fun
 
2018-04-15 10:39:17 AM  
Teens are obsessed with the new and it's driving the old crazy.
 
2018-04-15 10:40:52 AM  
"I don't play too much anymore," Mulvaney said. "These days I only play Fortnite about two hours a day."

To have that kind of free time again....
 
2018-04-15 11:04:11 AM  

ktybear: Teenager is a modern construct. Before that children toiled at hard labour to help the family, then got married and toiled some more as adults


Or, as conservatives refer to it, The Good Old Days.
 
2018-04-15 12:30:30 PM  
Say, do any of you guys know how to Madison?
 
2018-04-15 12:30:55 PM  
As long as I don't have to deal with another fidgit spinner in my classroom.
 
2018-04-15 12:31:35 PM  
(YAWN)
 
2018-04-15 12:31:37 PM  
Dawn of civilization Subby? Is that so? You sound old, which makes you dumb and bad in the way of progress.
 
2018-04-15 12:36:53 PM  
I was going to go with "pineapples on pizza" and "Farkers" in the blanks, but Fortnite works, too. So, as someone who's never played it: is this the new Evercrack?
 
2018-04-15 12:39:10 PM  
Math teacher here. Fortnite is definitely an epidemic for my students this year. It's all the boys talk about, and they are constantly trying to play it on their phones. Something has happened this year and I don't think something like Fortnite is to blame, but it's certainly a symptom. For example, in a single period of 40 students, only 5 did not have an F in any class. 25+ had F's in multiple classes, and 10 have all F's and D's. At least in that period I'm not a teacher, I'm a babysitter...
 
2018-04-15 12:40:47 PM  

ktybear: Teenager is a modern construct. Before that children toiled at hard labour to help the family, then got married and toiled some more as adults


Yeah, as soon as you could work, your ass went to work.  "Childhood" simply meant "not quite able to work yet."
 
2018-04-15 12:40:49 PM  

Aetre: I was going to go with "pineapples on pizza" and "Farkers" in the blanks, but Fortnite works, too. So, as someone who's never played it: is this the new Evercrack?


It's just kind of wacky fun. You Glide down to the island, try to find a space without too many people on it, desperately search for a weapon, and try to survive as long as you can.

Combat can be very brief. A headshot can kill you instantly. And it's really hard.

The matches can also be quite short, which is kind of nice, when they drag on it's very intense. You don't see people a lot. So when you do it sort of a thing. It gets tense.

I've played probably 820 games, my best scores in the top five, and that only because I avoided everybody long enough. In my 120 games, I probably got about 12 kills.

Hey i.never said I was good at it. It's a fun tense game though. Lovin it.
 
2018-04-15 12:41:14 PM  
The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households.

David Bowie - Oh You Pretty Things
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2018-04-15 12:42:14 PM  
It's certainly better than PUBG.
 
2018-04-15 12:42:29 PM  

Aetre: I was going to go with "pineapples on pizza" and "Farkers" in the blanks, but Fortnite works, too. So, as someone who's never played it: is this the new Evercrack?


It's a mashup of minecraft and a battle royale shooter, it has a cartoonish look, its developed by a big budget developer so its polished and it's free to play.

Also, you can play on console, PC or a smart phone and the last one has become the problem for teachers and such. It's basically evercrack but you can play it in class if you're sneaky
 
2018-04-15 12:42:47 PM  

Bonanza man: Math teacher here. Fortnite is definitely an epidemic for my students this year. It's all the boys talk about, and they are constantly trying to play it on their phones. Something has happened this year and I don't think something like Fortnite is to blame, but it's certainly a symptom. For example, in a single period of 40 students, only 5 did not have an F in any class. 25+ had F's in multiple classes, and 10 have all F's and D's. At least in that period I'm not a teacher, I'm a babysitter...


I noticed a definite shift in attitude in the middle school I work at right after the Florida shooting, as if the entire student body just heaved a giant sigh and said "fark it."
 
2018-04-15 12:43:38 PM  

chawco: Aetre: I was going to go with "pineapples on pizza" and "Farkers" in the blanks, but Fortnite works, too. So, as someone who's never played it: is this the new Evercrack?

It's just kind of wacky fun. You Glide down to the island, try to find a space without too many people on it, desperately search for a weapon, and try to survive as long as you can.

Combat can be very brief. A headshot can kill you instantly. And it's really hard.

The matches can also be quite short, which is kind of nice, when they drag on it's very intense. You don't see people a lot. So when you do it sort of a thing. It gets tense.

I've played probably 820 games, my best scores in the top five, and that only because I avoided everybody long enough. In my 120 games, I probably got about 12 kills.

Hey i.never said I was good at it. It's a fun tense game though. Lovin it.


Ah, got it. Yeah, that does sound about right for the school age attention span in the cell phone era.
 
2018-04-15 12:44:22 PM  
It's no electric slide, that's for sure.
 
2018-04-15 12:46:09 PM  
In Missouri, a science teacher and coach has started confiscating smartphones from students caught playing Fortnite in class.

Wow, this a new development and totally noteworthy, teachers confiscating banned items when the kids use them in class. Notify someone!!!
 
2018-04-15 12:47:50 PM  

Bonanza man: Math teacher here. Fortnite is definitely an epidemic for my students this year. It's all the boys talk about, and they are constantly trying to play it on their phones. Something has happened this year and I don't think something like Fortnite is to blame, but it's certainly a symptom. For example, in a single period of 40 students, only 5 did not have an F in any class. 25+ had F's in multiple classes, and 10 have all F's and D's. At least in that period I'm not a teacher, I'm a babysitter...


Trump made the children retarded. I knew this was coming...
 
2018-04-15 12:49:24 PM  
I love Cards Against Humanity! Let's see...

Teens are obsessed with ____________

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and it's driving _____________ crazy.

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2018-04-15 12:49:37 PM  

Bonanza man: Math teacher here. Fortnite is definitely an epidemic for my students this year. It's all the boys talk about, and they are constantly trying to play it on their phones. Something has happened this year and I don't think something like Fortnite is to blame, but it's certainly a symptom. For example, in a single period of 40 students, only 5 did not have an F in any class. 25+ had F's in multiple classes, and 10 have all F's and D's. At least in that period I'm not a teacher, I'm a babysitter...


This made me think of something. China seems to be headed toward a Black Mirror type world where your social standing and advantages in life are all predicated on how you score on various metrics that the government will select. I wonder if they'll end up using that system to enforce grade discipline and conformity, like "no video games for you, you got a D in math", which they'll be able to enforce because they can dictate to vendors just what is and isn't allowed.
 
2018-04-15 12:50:00 PM  

Bonanza man: Math teacher here. Fortnite is definitely an epidemic for my students this year. It's all the boys talk about, and they are constantly trying to play it on their phones. Something has happened this year and I don't think something like Fortnite is to blame, but it's certainly a symptom. For example, in a single period of 40 students, only 5 did not have an F in any class. 25+ had F's in multiple classes, and 10 have all F's and D's. At least in that period I'm not a teacher, I'm a babysitter...


#1 reason? Teachers these days blow.
#2 reason? Cell phones in class.
#3 reason? Social media.
 
2018-04-15 12:50:07 PM  

jake_lex: ktybear: Teenager is a modern construct. Before that children toiled at hard labour to help the family, then got married and toiled some more as adults

Yeah, as soon as you could work, your ass went to work.  "Childhood" simply meant "not quite able to work yet."


No, it just meant do the little jobs.  Throw feed at the chickens, fetch stuff for mama in the kitchen, and otherwise shut the fark up and stay out of the way.
 
2018-04-15 12:50:13 PM  
The important thing is that the success of Fortnite assures Unreal Tournament is deader than dead dead dead on a dead man's deadydead.
 
2018-04-15 12:51:44 PM  
Sounds more like a parenting issue.

If my kid get caught playing a game in class she won't see her phone for a month. Same goes with texting. Or anything else really.

And yes, I'll take the teacher's word for it even if the teacher is a big  meanie liar who's just out to get my daughter because reasons.
 
2018-04-15 12:53:05 PM  

Man On A Mission: No, subby, this is the dawn of civilization:

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No, this is the dawn of civilization:
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2018-04-15 12:53:47 PM  
More of a PUBG Mobile guy myself.

Fortnite seems a little overly complicated.
 
2018-04-15 12:58:58 PM  
Teens are obsessed with personal responsibility and it's driving millenials crazy.
 
2018-04-15 01:02:53 PM  
I was wondering who the audience was for that battle royale garbage
 
2018-04-15 01:03:37 PM  

rummonkey: Man On A Mission: No, subby, this is the dawn of civilization:

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No, this is the dawn of civilization:
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No, THIS is the dawn of civilization:

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2018-04-15 01:03:45 PM  

Bonanza man: Math teacher here. Fortnite is definitely an epidemic for my students this year. It's all the boys talk about, and they are constantly trying to play it on their phones. Something has happened this year and I don't think something like Fortnite is to blame, but it's certainly a symptom. For example, in a single period of 40 students, only 5 did not have an F in any class. 25+ had F's in multiple classes, and 10 have all F's and D's. At least in that period I'm not a teacher, I'm a babysitter...


Children and teenagers are smarter than you realize. They know there's no future for them, so why break their necks trying to prepare ?
 
2018-04-15 01:07:10 PM  

Skyking Skyking Do Not Answer: Bonanza man: Math teacher here. Fortnite is definitely an epidemic for my students this year. It's all the boys talk about, and they are constantly trying to play it on their phones. Something has happened this year and I don't think something like Fortnite is to blame, but it's certainly a symptom. For example, in a single period of 40 students, only 5 did not have an F in any class. 25+ had F's in multiple classes, and 10 have all F's and D's. At least in that period I'm not a teacher, I'm a babysitter...

I noticed a definite shift in attitude in the middle school I work at right after the Florida shooting, as if the entire student body just heaved a giant sigh and said "fark it."


One of my kids turned 17, struggling to amass enough credits to graduate.  He has cerebral palsy, so struggling is putting it mildly.  The administration just kept doing things that made no sense, like putting his four classes at opposite ends of the building and also on different floors.  He would get multiple tardies, we'd end up having to pay a lawyer to get their lawyer to slap the administration around and meanwhile he's farther and farther behind.  He said, Fark it, dropped out, and is now just getting more hours at his part time job.  He'll probably get his GED next year, but if not, his boss said he can move into low level management without it.  Public schools need to adapt to reality.  Probably not more than half the students fit into those pigeon holes the school board created.
 
2018-04-15 01:08:07 PM  

fastfxr: Bonanza man: Math teacher here. Fortnite is definitely an epidemic for my students this year. It's all the boys talk about, and they are constantly trying to play it on their phones. Something has happened this year and I don't think something like Fortnite is to blame, but it's certainly a symptom. For example, in a single period of 40 students, only 5 did not have an F in any class. 25+ had F's in multiple classes, and 10 have all F's and D's. At least in that period I'm not a teacher, I'm a babysitter...

#1 reason? Teachers these days blow.
#2 reason? Cell phones in class.
#3 reason? Social media.


Don't forget #0 - Parents not holding kids accountable.
I'm definitely not the best teacher and teaching math to kids who don't "need" it is especially challenging. I accept a certain degree of responsibility for any failure in my class. However, the class period I'm talking about is an extreme outlier. When 50%+ of the class refuses to write ANYTHING down and they are consistently failing half their classes, I don't know how much responsibility to take. Granted, I'm in one of the worst school districts in the nation at one of the worst schools in the district, so my experience might be an outlier. This class period has been an outlier in my experience as well. When I hear about how many hours my students are playing games at home, and then I look at their grades, I just want to cry.
I'm not so out of touch to recognize the depressing nature of school in America, and the damage it does to the psyches of students. The horrible paradox is that education and intelligence is what helps people gain degrees of freedom, yet school is also the gatekeeping mechanism for the political and economic elite to identify the best and worst cogs for their machine. Damned if you do or don't. I wonder how many students are deciding to opt out of the system (which statistically makes comfortable living difficult) and how many are just chasing the highs of pleasure they get from games and social media with no sense of the consequences of their lack of effort. Depressing...
 
2018-04-15 01:09:39 PM  

Mike_LowELL: The important thing is that the success of Fortnite assures Unreal Tournament is deader than dead dead dead on a dead man's deadydead.


Joking or not, this is probably the worst thing you've ever written.

/UT peaked at 2003
 
2018-04-15 01:15:11 PM  

ktybear: Teenager is a modern construct. Before that children toiled at hard labour to help the family, then got married and toiled some more as adults


That is beyond simplistic.  Pre-Industrial children definitely did work as soon as they could walk and talk well enough to operate semi-independently.  But, the tasks were not crushing rocks or pulling plows, or such.  They did minor tasks.  Like gathering large twigs and/or small branches for the family fire.  Or carding wool.  Or acting as messengers around a village.  And the expectation was that they were unreliable as shiat and would play around.  We have way too many toys and references to child play going back millennia for children to have been slapped in coal mines as soon as they delatched from the titty.  A child was expected to contribute to the economic health of the family, yes, but in age-appropriate ways, not loading sixteen tons. Now, Industrial children were expected to work like dogs by factory owners, but that's only about 200 years ago - and middle- and upper class children were working less, not more.

Yes, Teen-ager as a defined category of life is pretty modern - depending upon who is doing the defining, somewhere between the beginning of WWI to the early 50s.  But, it is really an acknowledgement of something that was always around.  Even back in ye olden dayes, children gradually took on more and more responsibility as they aged, until they were doing adult work sometime between 15 and 20.  All the modern era really did was codify that.  Partly, this may be because of the twin influences of universal education and cheap cars.  Still being in school implies childhood, but access to independent transportation implies adulthood.  Where the two intersect becomes a liminal time, neither as controlled as childhood proper, nor as free as a full adult.  So its gets named.
 
2018-04-15 01:15:38 PM  

xalres: Mike_LowELL: The important thing is that the success of Fortnite assures Unreal Tournament is deader than dead dead dead on a dead man's deadydead.

Joking or not, this is probably the worst thing you've ever written.

/UT peaked at 2003


Its still unreal to me dammit!
 
2018-04-15 01:17:30 PM  
'Radical Heights' is in early access - its a game show and a battle royale in one.
You'll hear applause etc and get prizes when you get guns or take out foes.
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2018-04-15 01:18:28 PM  

jake_lex: "Childhood" simply meant "not quite able to work breed yet."


Feminised that for you.
 
2018-04-15 01:19:27 PM  

Fabric_Man: Bonanza man: Math teacher here. Fortnite is definitely an epidemic for my students this year. It's all the boys talk about, and they are constantly trying to play it on their phones. Something has happened this year and I don't think something like Fortnite is to blame, but it's certainly a symptom. For example, in a single period of 40 students, only 5 did not have an F in any class. 25+ had F's in multiple classes, and 10 have all F's and D's. At least in that period I'm not a teacher, I'm a babysitter...

Children and teenagers are smarter than you realize. They know there's no future for them, so why break their necks trying to prepare ?


I absolutely recognize that as a factor. What I'm unsure of is how many of these students are consciously thinking in these terms, how many subconsciously are affected, and how many are are just cluelessly doing what's more interesting and fun without a firm grasp of whats coming next. Most likely there's some combination of these and other issues at work for all these kids.
 
2018-04-15 01:22:02 PM  

Skyking Skyking Do Not Answer: As long as I don't have to deal with another fidgit spinner in my classroom.


Or the parent that thinks it helped their kid with ADHD.
 
2018-04-15 01:22:31 PM  
"Compared to other games the graphics are obviously better, which I like," said Minaya, who scored 11 kills in Friday's competition, winning second place and $26. "When someone's shooting at you, you can see the bullets whiz by. Other games don't do that."

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2018-04-15 01:22:40 PM  

cherryl taggart: like putting his four classes at opposite ends of the building and also on different floors.


That seems cruel to do to any student, with or without a disability.
 
2018-04-15 01:23:00 PM  

phalamir: We have way too many toys and references to child play going back millennia for children to have been slapped in coal mines as soon as they delatched from the titty.


On the contrary, in coal mining areas children were expected to start down the mine at 5 or 6. Their first job was opening and closing underground doors to let sledges of coal through; after a couple of years of that they got to pull the sledges, then fill them, then hew the coal.

Your pleasant idyll of small children gathering twigs while giggling at the sheer enjoyability of life may work for Disney, but is very, very far from the truth.
 
2018-04-15 01:23:14 PM  
cherryl taggart:

 Public schools need to adapt to reality.  Probably not more than half the students fit into those pigeon holes the school board created.

I'm a special ed teacher, and the biggest headache has always getting regular ed teachers and administrators to make adaptations and modifications to help kids with disabilities be successful.  The school I worked at for 13 years was really bad about "special treatment for those kids."  Any deviation from the cookie-cutter mentality was met with pissing and moaning, and occasional outright refusal to comply with the IEP.  I was thought of as an asshole for daring to insist that teachers follow IEPs.  They're legal documents, hello.
 
2018-04-15 01:24:08 PM  
The children now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise.
 
2018-04-15 01:26:49 PM  

Bonanza man: Math teacher here. Fortnite is definitely an epidemic for my students this year. It's all the boys talk about, and they are constantly trying to play it on their phones. Something has happened this year and I don't think something like Fortnite is to blame, but it's certainly a symptom. For example, in a single period of 40 students, only 5 did not have an F in any class. 25+ had F's in multiple classes, and 10 have all F's and D's. At least in that period I'm not a teacher, I'm a babysitter...


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Seriously, Drumpf is why.

The kids may not realize it, it may only be subconscious, but the daily string of disaster that that moron is creating is stressing everybody out.  Parents feel it, kids feel it, you're feeling it.  It's not even that he's directly working to devalue intelligence and education, he's certainly doing that, but it's more the constant state of "oh fark, what's going to go wrong next" that we're all feeling.

And if their parents are deplorables, it gets even worse.  Those parents clearly don't see any value in education, so they're going to be actively discouraging learning, and Drumpf in office has reinforced their belief that to be smart, you just say you're smart, no need for school.

It'll be better after the election this fall when the Rethuglicans lose congress, but it's not going to be over until he's out of office and in prison.
 
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