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(Reuters)   Mice hit repeatedly in head have trouble remembering   ( divider line
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2002-01-16 09:12:06 AM  
Wait, what was I just reading?
2002-01-16 09:12:48 AM  
Where the hell was PETA while this was happening?! Probably boycotting ice cream vans or something...
2002-01-16 09:18:00 AM  
This is so pointless. Makes me sick.
2002-01-16 09:23:11 AM  
*sniff, sniff* I smell an animal rights debate! Yippee!

I'd like to kick it off with this little question: Would you rather the tests be done on humans? Or perhaps have them not done at all, and just let those poor people to defend themselves from terrible and debilitating diseases?
2002-01-16 09:30:30 AM  
Or, a third choice: the study simply asks people if they've ever been pounded, and look at them some years later, and with the inconclusive results, we make uninformed medical decisions!
Don't forget, you probably kill mice, too, and humanity doesn't get any cures from that.
2002-01-16 09:30:37 AM  
Where are the people saying that this is degrading to mice?
2002-01-16 09:34:05 AM  
Mice that have had a human ear grafted onto their backs, and then are punched repeatedly in it develop "Cauliflower Ear" more quickly than those who haven't!

2002-01-16 09:35:44 AM  
Of course, the only problem with coming back to people years later is that, if they have developed Alzheimer's, they will be unable to remember the question in the first place.
2002-01-16 09:36:56 AM  
It would just break my heart to get paid to hit mice on the head.

who will help me cry a river?

boo hoo
2002-01-16 09:40:08 AM  
I wonder how much this "study" cost?
2002-01-16 09:41:16 AM  
Kylie what is so pointless? Medical research? If you think it's morally offensive to do bash mice in the head if it will help us understand dementia, do you have any better ideas?

Perhaps *you'd* like to volunteer? Probably not...
2002-01-16 09:43:00 AM  
Who was that comedian who had an organ made out of Mice?
2002-01-16 09:45:58 AM  
When my brother and I were younger I used to poke him in the eyes, a lot, when we would wrestle. Now he has trouble seeing and for some reason he blames me. Why do these stupid non-thought provoking stories get posted and when I post a stie that is dedicated to girls kissing I get nada. man funk dat.
2002-01-16 09:47:32 AM  
"..when you post a stie..." is that another reference to ocular injuries?
2002-01-16 09:48:31 AM  
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Eric Lindros tries to understand the news.
2002-01-16 09:50:02 AM  
An organ made out of mice? What sort of " organ " are we talking about?
2002-01-16 09:50:20 AM  
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Looks like poor Troy is screwed.
2002-01-16 09:50:22 AM  
YAWN. For some reason I am just not in the mood today. Major headache. I just don't feel like wasting any energy proving how right I am all the time. Maybe some other time.

This experiment is pointless because it has already been done before. No need to repeat it. Not only is it killing and injuring animals, It is WASTING YOUR MONEY.

Everyone start yelling at me, I am ready.
2002-01-16 09:50:52 AM  
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I've fallen and I can't get up!
2002-01-16 09:55:39 AM  
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Actual photo of a mouse after being struck in the head repeatedly!
2002-01-16 09:59:01 AM  
How did they repeatedly gaffle the mice? did the scientists use a mousetrap with a tiny boxing glove, or another mouse who was drunk and mean, or perhaps a pencil-break technique?
2002-01-16 10:00:18 AM  
I don't think anybody knows what dementia would look like in a mouse
I can see that very mouse in my mind. It is spastic and has buck teeth. C'mon somebody, help me out here.

I wish they had said exactly how they did it. Little rubber mallets? Walls painted to look like tunnels?
2002-01-16 10:05:34 AM  
The organ made of Mice was on an episode of Monty Python. Terry Jones played it and was taken off by a giant hammer, or a knight with a fish or some such thing....
2002-01-16 10:08:26 AM  
Use death row inmates instead of animals to test this stuff out. It will allow those pieces of trash to actually do something in their life that will benefit their race.

Better results and nobody in their right mind gives two shiats about what happens to them.

I consider death row inmates to have fewer rights than animals, so start bashin their heads in and spraying chemicals in their eyes.
2002-01-16 10:08:46 AM  
Great, I'm going to test these on my wife's gerbils tonight, and will report back which is the most succesful.

Hytes Xiam:
Spastic with buck teeth: bit like the guys in Deliverance then? Could play "Duelling Banjos" on their little heads (the larger the mouse, the deeper the squeak).
2002-01-16 10:10:19 AM  
Law of fives:
Thanks, now, where is my fishy? I loved him so; and he went wherever I did go!
2002-01-16 10:12:25 AM  
That would look good on a resume:

Experimented on mice by repeatedly smacking them in the head.

How do I get a job like that?
2002-01-16 10:14:24 AM  
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2002-01-16 10:15:09 AM  
The organ in question was from a Monty Python was more like a vibraphone where the mice were tuned from B-flat ... I think he played the danube waltz or something
2002-01-16 10:20:47 AM  
I thought the mice were in standard tuning with a capo at the third fret.
2002-01-16 10:21:41 AM  
You have to start at the bottom with something like slugs, and work up. Eventually, with dedication and practice, you can graduate to St. Bernard's like me.
2002-01-16 10:25:46 AM  
and the #1 return for a Google image search for mouse hit on head is: [image from too old to be available]
2002-01-16 10:39:54 AM  
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2002-01-16 11:09:05 AM  
shockingly enough people are more important than mice - you can't develop a biochemistry of dementia, and subsequently develop pharmacological cures without looking at brain tissue - getting the brain tissue out is (typically) fatal to the mouse. Bottom line - sucks to be a mouse.
2002-01-16 11:11:49 AM  
For this experiment, they should use the dumb biatch who is sueing her ex for 330 grand a month child support/alimony.

Maybe then she'd forget what a stupid wh0re she is.
2002-01-16 11:12:57 AM  
Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. Ladies and gentlemen. I have in this box twenty-three white mice. Mice which have been painstakingly trained over the past few years, to squeak at a selected pitch. (he raises a mouse by its tail) This is E sharp... and this one is G. You get the general idea. Now these mice are so arranged upon this rack, that when played in the correct order they will squeak 'The Bells of St Mary's'. Ladies and gentlemen, I give you on the mouse organ 'The Bells of St Mary's'. Thank you.
2002-01-16 11:19:05 AM  
A cat will almost always blink when you knock it on the head with a ballpeen hammer.
2002-01-16 11:28:18 AM  
Thanks Goatman264, now I have scratches all up my leg.

What size hammer should I have used, and should I have declawed the cat first?
2002-01-16 11:35:38 AM  
Goatman264: my cat hasn't blinked since...
2002-01-16 11:37:19 AM  
Actually, some humans were used in this experiment:
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2002-01-16 11:47:51 AM  
If you hit mice on the head hard enough they forget to breath.
2002-01-16 12:00:36 PM  
Yes, I thought this concept seemed familiar...
2002-01-16 12:20:38 PM  
Boomslang: Though you may not believe this, there are some who believe that some death-row inmates have been wrongly accused and convicted.

On the other hand, there are some so-called "humans" (I'm not going to name any names) whose status is rather dubious (dubyus?).
2002-01-16 12:31:14 PM  
Everyone seems to be missing the point. It is not that the mice forget when tapped on the head but that they developed Dementia or Alzheimers (sp?). That is a pretty big deal and quite a bit more involved than forgetting things.

However, I agree with others on this thread what does Alzheimers or dementia mean for a mouse (forgets where he put the cheese?) and how does it relate to the human experience of these diseases.

Anyway, just my two cents ...
2002-01-16 12:35:07 PM  
Everyone seems to be missing the point.

There is no one point in any Fark thread.
That's the point.
2002-01-16 12:49:22 PM  
Got you Hytes. I forgot about that [*flogs self as punishment*].
2002-01-16 01:05:58 PM  
Abyssal Squid - I do realize this.

As a whole tho, I still consider death row inmates to have no rights. They are leeches on the American economy, and just overall a waste of life.

For those that are wrongly-accused and convicted, its unfortunate, but its life. shiat happens.

Generally tho, I stand firm in my belief that those on death row have no rights, and certainly less rights than the animals being used in these tests.

The murderers on death row had their chance at life and decided to kill their own species instead. That was their choice. Now there are consequences.

The death row inmates had a trial (and likely appeals), the animals didn't get either. These death row inmates murder other humans and then want to die as painlessly as possible. Screw that, put em in a lab and to tests on them.

I just feel that the trash on death row could at least do something to benefit America. If they don't like it, that's tough. The families didn't like it that these murderers killed their siblings, but they apparently didn't have influence on the matter. Why should these criminals have it any better?

I don't see what right we have to sumbit another species to these gruesome tests in the name of science or medicine. Believe it or not, these creatures were here before we were, and they will likely be here well after we are gone. That is unless we kill them all off.
2002-01-16 01:57:56 PM  
"Mice hit repeatedly in head have trouble remembering"

"Yes, and a new study shows that when baby squirrels are forced to smoke 15 cannabis cigarettes a day they become slightly disoriented and tend to take the laws of self-preservation less seriously, playing with their nuts rather than storing them.", Chevy Chase/Weekend Update SNL
2002-01-16 03:44:58 PM  
I'd rather have tests done on humans, because I don't want to have my dick fall off 15 years later because some drug works on pigs, doesn't on humans. I mean, there's gotta be a gazillion people who would volunteer to be test subjects(even if it means certain death) if you paid them. i.e. incapable members of society with starving families.
2002-01-16 07:48:47 PM  
People with Alzheimers are old and stuff, with their most of their lives behind them already. The mice that they're killing to do this research have very short lifespans... do they deserve to spend it as the receiving end of thousands of tiny hammer strikes, all at the whim of strange giants who make no sense?

How useful could animal testing be, anyway? I've even read an article that says it isn't helpful, and cursory examination of most any animal is all you need to be able to tell it apart from a person. It really is stupid that all these "doctors" and "scientists" with their "degrees" and "huge mounds of empirical evidence" continue wasting our time and tax dollars, not to mention the lives of countless monkeys, doggies and other furry creatures... especially since all we have to show from such research are insulin, the polio vaccine (come on, who even gets polio?), billions of dollars in unfiled lawsuits (think of the lawyers, people)... and we would have eventually figured out about the dangers of thalidomide on our own, anyhow. Better live flipper babies than dead kittens, any day.
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