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2018-03-20 11:51:01 AM  
Remember that Jim Carrey movie where he could not tell a lie? this is like that, only it's totally the opposite.
 
2018-03-20 11:53:23 AM  
It's almost as if you're representing a liar, a cheat, and a scoundrel...

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2018-03-20 12:01:54 PM  
Well if they don't want the huge ball of inflamed gas each morning, they should stop feeding him cheeseburgers every night.
 
2018-03-20 12:11:10 PM  
*rubs hands together*
I just want this show to finally start.   The preview was terrifying yet slightly arousing.
 
2018-03-20 12:22:57 PM  
Mueller is providing some questions he will ask but is not agreeing to limit his questions. The questions about Sessions and the firing of Comey tell me that he's got Trump dead to rights and has Sessions as well on obstruction of justice. But the fun part ...

He wants to ask Trump about what he knew and when he knew about Flynn's contacts with Russia, which means Mueller knows that Trump knew something about Flynn's contacts with Russia during the campaign and during the Transition meaning Mueller has Trump and Flynn on violations of the Logan Act.

Problem is that the Logan Act could readily be challenged all the way to the SCOTUS and ruled unconstitutional. However, if Trump lies about things that Mueller knows, then Trump's guilty of lying. And, regardless of the constitutionality of the Logan Act, Congress and the Senate could find that negotiating with Russia about ending sanctions etc., and repeatedly lying to the American people about doing so, amounts to High Crimes and Misdemeanors.

Better, there's a link between Pence and Flynn so this might take down both Trump and Pence.
 
2018-03-20 12:31:45 PM  

raerae1980: *rubs hands together*
I just want this show to finally start.   The preview was terrifying yet slightly arousing.


Don't rub them together too fast. Warming them is nice but you don't want them to get so hot that they risk burning anything delicate.
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2018-03-20 12:41:05 PM  
Damn Obama and his deep state perjury traps.
 
2018-03-20 12:52:56 PM  
Mueller: "Ok, can you discuss your reasoning in firing Comey?"

Trump: "Well, he'd stumbled on the files that showed 50% of all our campaign funding was from a guy called Pladimir Vutin and when I told him to cover it up he refused. I wanted to get Sessions to do it but he was busy that evening with a couple of high priced Russian rentboys- you know what a horndog he is."

Mueller: "So wait, you're freely admitting you took large sums of money from the Russians for your campaign and fired the guy who wanted to investigate it?

Trump: "Yep.  Whatcha gonna do about it?"

Ryan + McConnell: "Well, we're glad that little detail has been cleared up and shows that Trump and the GOP did nothing wrong whatsoever.   We're proud to announce that we'll be reallocating all of the special counsel's funds to investigating BeghaziemailUraniumVinceFoster and locking Hillary up!"
 
2018-03-20 12:59:55 PM  
I guess it's still a trap even if you set and bait it yourself.
 
2018-03-20 01:05:05 PM  
Remember when Hillary testified for 11 hours straight, without the aid of counsel?
 
2018-03-20 01:07:22 PM  
I'm hoping he does testify, under oath, and that this is a picture of his lawyers and cabinet afterwards:
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2018-03-20 01:17:56 PM  
Mueller's gonna play Trump like he's never been played before.

Mr President, we just want to remind you that you're NOT under oath today.

Trump: *hells yeah, I can say whatever the fark I want!*

Mr. President, we also want to remind you that it's not a lie if you believe it's true. We heard that on television, so you can rest assured that it's true.

Just one more thing Mr. President. Would it be OK if we televise these interviews live? We can guarantee you that they'll get YUUUGE ratings.
 
2018-03-20 01:22:33 PM  
(you know how ol' 2 scoops always does the opposite of what he's advised to do...)

Hey Trump ! Whatever you do, DON'T try to bribe Mueller to end the "witch hunt".
 
2018-03-20 01:24:03 PM  

impaler: Remember when Hillary testified for 11 hours straight, without the aid of counsel?


Oh, yes.  Bravo to one of Hillary's LMDs.

/wanking motion
 
2018-03-20 01:34:32 PM  

edmo: Remember that Jim Carrey movie where he could not tell a lie? this is like that, only it's totally the opposite.


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2018-03-20 01:38:57 PM  

raerae1980: *rubs hands together*
I just want this show to finally start.   The preview was terrifying yet slightly arousing.


Probably should just enjoy the foreplay. I think the actually act will go too quickly.
 
2018-03-20 01:48:46 PM  

raerae1980: *rubs hands together*
I just want this show to finally start.   The preview was terrifying yet slightly arousing.


Go on...
 
2018-03-20 01:49:28 PM  
IT'S A PLASMA!
 
2018-03-20 01:49:50 PM  
Worried? How about petrified? I would not be surprised that if D2S does testify that half or more of his his lawyers decide they need to spend more time with their families ... before Donnie even starts talking.
 
2018-03-20 01:52:16 PM  
Thanks for that timely and up to date scoop, Yahoo. We had no idea.
 
2018-03-20 01:52:54 PM  

wademh: Mueller is providing some questions he will ask but is not agreeing to limit his questions. The questions about Sessions and the firing of Comey tell me that he's got Trump dead to rights and has Sessions as well on obstruction of justice. But the fun part ...

He wants to ask Trump about what he knew and when he knew about Flynn's contacts with Russia, which means Mueller knows that Trump knew something about Flynn's contacts with Russia during the campaign and during the Transition meaning Mueller has Trump and Flynn on violations of the Logan Act.

Problem is that the Logan Act could readily be challenged all the way to the SCOTUS and ruled unconstitutional. However, if Trump lies about things that Mueller knows, then Trump's guilty of lying. And, regardless of the constitutionality of the Logan Act, Congress and the Senate could find that negotiating with Russia about ending sanctions etc., and repeatedly lying to the American people about doing so, amounts to High Crimes and Misdemeanors.



Logan act is nowhere near unconstitutional. It is highly specific to a very narrow set of circumstances, down to "don't talk out your ass like you represent the government, when you don't represent the government, with disputes between 2 governments."
 
2018-03-20 01:53:42 PM  

wademh: Mueller is providing some questions he will ask but is not agreeing to limit his questions. The questions about Sessions and the firing of Comey tell me that he's got Trump dead to rights and has Sessions as well on obstruction of justice. But the fun part ...

He wants to ask Trump about what he knew and when he knew about Flynn's contacts with Russia, which means Mueller knows that Trump knew something about Flynn's contacts with Russia during the campaign and during the Transition meaning Mueller has Trump and Flynn on violations of the Logan Act.

Problem is that the Logan Act could readily be challenged all the way to the SCOTUS and ruled unconstitutional. However, if Trump lies about things that Mueller knows, then Trump's guilty of lying. And, regardless of the constitutionality of the Logan Act, Congress and the Senate could find that negotiating with Russia about ending sanctions etc., and repeatedly lying to the American people about doing so, amounts to High Crimes and Misdemeanors.

Better, there's a link between Pence and Flynn so this might take down both Trump and Pence.


Plan still relies on republicans determining that laws actually matter
 
2018-03-20 01:53:48 PM  

the_innkeeper: raerae1980: *rubs hands together*
I just want this show to finally start.   The preview was terrifying yet slightly arousing.

Go on...


Here, I will knit you a Lady Boner koozie.

*...knitting...*
 
2018-03-20 01:53:50 PM  
They just want Mueller to be fair and not ask their client any questions that might lead to him incriminating himself. They had at one point agreed that he could ask about the weather, but then it was realized, no, this will go to climate change, and then Al Gore, and then Hillary, and then it's off to the races.

So they've agree that Mueller can ask questions about economics. They're reasonably confident he won't have a word to say.
 
2018-03-20 01:55:20 PM  
Isn't this like the tenth time an article like this has been greened?

It might actually be news if Trump's lawyers weren't worried that Trump would lie about everything.

I would love if Trump was finally deposed by Mueller and one of the first questions was whether Trump wanted to be referred to as President Trump or President Dennison.
 
2018-03-20 01:55:55 PM  
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He could take a lie detector test like Stormy.

/Possibly the greatest polygraph photo ever
 
2018-03-20 01:56:56 PM  

wademh: Mueller is providing some questions he will ask but is not agreeing to limit his questions. The questions about Sessions and the firing of Comey tell me that he's got Trump dead to rights and has Sessions as well on obstruction of justice. But the fun part ...

He wants to ask Trump about what he knew and when he knew about Flynn's contacts with Russia, which means Mueller knows that Trump knew something about Flynn's contacts with Russia during the campaign and during the Transition meaning Mueller has Trump and Flynn on violations of the Logan Act.

Problem is that the Logan Act could readily be challenged all the way to the SCOTUS and ruled unconstitutional. However, if Trump lies about things that Mueller knows, then Trump's guilty of lying. And, regardless of the constitutionality of the Logan Act, Congress and the Senate could find that negotiating with Russia about ending sanctions etc., and repeatedly lying to the American people about doing so, amounts to High Crimes and Misdemeanors.

Better, there's a link between Pence and Flynn so this might take down both Trump and Pence.


Honestly, you lost me at Logan Act.  In the 200 years that it's been a law, no one has ever even been prosecuted for it, much less convicted.  You're right that it's not going to pass constitutional muster if/when anyone has actual standing to challenge it.  I think this is what the conspiracy charge was for to indict Flynn, Manafort, and the rest of them.  It'll be easier to pin the conspiracy on Trump that it would be to use something as flimsy as the Logan Act.
 
2018-03-20 01:57:05 PM  
Of all the Farked up stuff about Trump, this one point says a lot:

Trump cannot stop making false statements. If he is making multiple statements, the chances that at least one of them will be false, is %100.
 
2018-03-20 01:57:28 PM  
Exaggerate much subby?

Trump is a huge inflamed blowhard, but I really doubt any of us would see him rise out of bed until after he's finished his morning 'executive time' with Steve Doocy's face and the legs, tits, and ass of whoever is Fox's morning show blonde de jour.
 
2018-03-20 01:58:36 PM  

wademh: Mueller is providing some questions he will ask but is not agreeing to limit his questions. The questions about Sessions and the firing of Comey tell me that he's got Trump dead to rights and has Sessions as well on obstruction of justice. But the fun part ...

He wants to ask Trump about what he knew and when he knew about Flynn's contacts with Russia, which means Mueller knows that Trump knew something about Flynn's contacts with Russia during the campaign and during the Transition meaning Mueller has Trump and Flynn on violations of the Logan Act.

Problem is that the Logan Act could readily be challenged all the way to the SCOTUS and ruled unconstitutional. However, if Trump lies about things that Mueller knows, then Trump's guilty of lying. And, regardless of the constitutionality of the Logan Act, Congress and the Senate could find that negotiating with Russia about ending sanctions etc., and repeatedly lying to the American people about doing so, amounts to High Crimes and Misdemeanors.

Better, there's a link between Pence and Flynn so this might take down both Trump and Pence.


Here is what scares me.  I think the majority of the GOP is going to shrug and say "Of course the incoming President is going to talk to other countries about what his foreign policy will be!" If that is all Mueller has, I don't think the Senate will convict.

Mueller needs to nail Trump on his behavior before the election, and on all of the financial crimes he has been engaged in via the Trump organization whenever they may have occured.
 
2018-03-20 01:59:34 PM  
Trump has no issue with openly admitting criminal wrongdoing, he has never been called on it by anyone so why should he care about getting his story straight?  He'll babble whatever pops into his tiny mind while occasionally shrieking "No Collusion! Fake News!"
 
2018-03-20 01:59:54 PM  

adidasoccer: Technically the sun is a miasma of incandescent plama, not gas...


"The sun is a mass of incandescent gas,
A gigantic nuclear furnace
Where hydrogen is fused into helium
At temperatures of millions of degrees...."

/obscure?
 
2018-03-20 02:00:27 PM  
little off topic.. but is there any actual evidence that Trump sends his own tweets? Hes so prolific on Twitter, you'd think he'd have the phone in his hands all the time.. but i don't recall ever seeing him use his phone.
 
2018-03-20 02:00:36 PM  
Thank god we don't have that liar Hillary in the WH, amiright?
 
2018-03-20 02:03:18 PM  

docmattic: adidasoccer: Technically the sun is a miasma of incandescent plama, not gas...

"The sun is a mass of incandescent gas,
A gigantic nuclear furnace
Where hydrogen is fused into helium
At temperatures of millions of degrees...."

/obscure?


Not in the least.

They Might Be Giants - Why Does the Sun Really Shine? (The Sun is a Miasma of Incandescent Plasma)
Youtube sLkGSV9WDMA
 
2018-03-20 02:04:11 PM  

docmattic: adidasoccer: Technically the sun is a miasma of incandescent plama, not gas...

"The sun is a mass of incandescent gas,
A gigantic nuclear furnace
Where hydrogen is fused into helium
At temperatures of millions of degrees...."

/obscure?


Update your references, The Sun is a Miasma of Incandescent Plasma
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLkGS​V​9WDMA
 
2018-03-20 02:04:41 PM  
The sun isn't on fire submitter.
 
2018-03-20 02:05:01 PM  

docmattic: adidasoccer: Technically the sun is a miasma of incandescent plama, not gas...

"The sun is a mass of incandescent gas,
A gigantic nuclear furnace
Where hydrogen is fused into helium
At temperatures of millions of degrees...."

/obscure?


Always look on the bright side? Or, every sperm is sacred maybe?
 
2018-03-20 02:05:28 PM  
Gosh, that Mr. Mueller better bring a second lawyer with him. Just in case Donnie changes his story afterwards.

And two recording devices.

With extra batteries.
 
2018-03-20 02:06:32 PM  

darkeyes: [img.fark.net image 850x637]

He could take a lie detector test like Stormy.

/Possibly the greatest polygraph photo ever


Do they get bigger when she lies?
 
2018-03-20 02:07:03 PM  
Given his recent missive about the Austin bombing, I don't even know if he can articulate anything.

He considers this leadership.  He has convinced himself that he can wing it the rest of his term.  Even if I had voted for him I would be pissed that he doesn't even half ass his job.  Maybe 15%, and I'm being generous.
 
2018-03-20 02:07:32 PM  
Knowing Trump he'll probably say one thing in the interview then promptly tweet the exact opposite during his morning dump the next day.  I would assume that would give Mueller 's team due cause to drag his fat arse back in with no written questions ahead of time.
 
2018-03-20 02:08:06 PM  

LikeALeafOnTheWind: little off topic.. but is there any actual evidence that Trump sends his own tweets? Hes so prolific on Twitter, you'd think he'd have the phone in his hands all the time.. but i don't recall ever seeing him use his phone.


Yes, actually.  People have analyzed his tweets before and after his campaign.  They have the same signature use of syntax and cadence.  Funny thing is, the ones that come off as only sociopathically evil and not unhinged farkwittery have a different use of words and sentence structure.  So, there are at least two people on the account: Trump and at least one staff member.  The interesting thing is that the staff member(s) aren't making tweets that make Trump appear less cartoonish than Snidely Whiplash, just ones that are slightly less Fourth Reichy.  Which means the attempts at PR are still only moving the needle down to Goebbels.
 
2018-03-20 02:09:53 PM  

impaler: Remember when Hillary testified for 11 hours straight, without the aid of counsel?


But her emails!!!?!?!!
 
2018-03-20 02:10:12 PM  
I actually feel bad for his lawyers in this situation... Because pretty much everyone knows Trump is a walking perjury machine, and he'll perjure himself half a dozen times before they finish making introductions. If I were one of his lawyers I would do almost anything to keep him from being questioned.
 
2018-03-20 02:10:19 PM  

Comic Book Guy: wademh: Mueller is providing some questions he will ask but is not agreeing to limit his questions. The questions about Sessions and the firing of Comey tell me that he's got Trump dead to rights and has Sessions as well on obstruction of justice. But the fun part ...

He wants to ask Trump about what he knew and when he knew about Flynn's contacts with Russia, which means Mueller knows that Trump knew something about Flynn's contacts with Russia during the campaign and during the Transition meaning Mueller has Trump and Flynn on violations of the Logan Act.

Problem is that the Logan Act could readily be challenged all the way to the SCOTUS and ruled unconstitutional. However, if Trump lies about things that Mueller knows, then Trump's guilty of lying. And, regardless of the constitutionality of the Logan Act, Congress and the Senate could find that negotiating with Russia about ending sanctions etc., and repeatedly lying to the American people about doing so, amounts to High Crimes and Misdemeanors.

Better, there's a link between Pence and Flynn so this might take down both Trump and Pence.

Honestly, you lost me at Logan Act.  In the 200 years that it's been a law, no one has ever even been prosecuted for it, much less convicted.  You're right that it's not going to pass constitutional muster if/when anyone has actual standing to challenge it.  I think this is what the conspiracy charge was for to indict Flynn, Manafort, and the rest of them.  It'll be easier to pin the conspiracy on Trump that it would be to use something as flimsy as the Logan Act.


The problem the GOP may have from a logic standpoint is that Bill Clinton's lie was about a consensual sex act which is/was not a crime and he was still impeached (although not convicted) for obstruction of justice and perjury. Flynn has admitted (by virtue of his plea) that he committed at least one act of perjury. D2S attempt to have Comey back off even if the underlying activity was legal is still obstruction of justice, even if the underlying Logan Act violation is never charged.

However, logic is not a requirement in any of this only the politics are a requirement. The House GOP will not vote to either impeach nor will the Senate convict as it is currently constituted. The senate even in a large blue wave will probably not have enough votes to convict. However come January 3, 2019 the house might well vote impeachment resolutions.
 
2018-03-20 02:11:12 PM  
He might fox Mueller by being *so* inconsistent, erratic, and all over the place, that actually nothing concrete can be established. I can't imagine he can remember the date of anything for example, up to and including his kids birthdays.
 
2018-03-20 02:12:37 PM  

edmo: Remember that Jim Carrey movie where he could not tell a lie? this is like that, only it's totally the opposite.


His latest work, The wicked witch of the west wing and putin's flying monkeys:
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2018-03-20 02:13:26 PM  

adidasoccer: Technically the sun is a miasma of incandescent plama, not gas...


Plama?

Flame on!
 
2018-03-20 02:13:28 PM  

severedtoe: Even if I had voted for him I would be pissed that he doesn't even half ass his job


The problem is that his base are society-hating murder-suicide fundiban.  Half-assing your job is still about 49% more assing than they have done, collectively.  To them, he's an over-achieving workhorse.  And from his missives, he's obviously using Oxy in amounts declared righteously Jesusy by Pastor Cleetus.

And the ones that aren't in that camp, they could care less.  He has already passed their tax cut law, so whatever he wants to do next is fine by them.  Hell, they would probably be perfectly fine if he dropped some nukes on a few blue states to weed out the non-albino peasant orders.
 
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