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(NBC Washington)   Police officer of the year negligently fires his gun while in a school. This of course would never happen if trained teachers were armed   ( nbcwashington.com) divider line
    More: Dumbass, school resource officer, High school, Alexandria, Virginia, College, London, Virginia, Alexandria Police Department, Del Ray neighborhood  
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2018-03-13 02:03:33 PM  
Waiting on the gun nuts to ammosplain why this does not count as a school shootingand so we cannot cite it as reasonto make guns harder for any yahoo to buy.
 
2018-03-13 02:07:59 PM  
"Safety first"
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2018-03-13 02:08:12 PM  
Another case of Glock leg?
 
2018-03-13 02:20:51 PM  
The solution to this is more guns.
 
2018-03-13 02:36:47 PM  
I thought only the police should have guns, and here you're telling me that we can't trust the police either?
 
2018-03-13 02:36:49 PM  
I'd wager that teachers will accidentally fire weapons more often than police officers and since they're in the building almost all of the time, the risk will be much higher.
 
2018-03-13 02:38:52 PM  
Reset the clock?
 
2018-03-13 02:39:06 PM  
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/bad subby. Know the difference.
 
2018-03-13 02:39:50 PM  

GanjSmokr: Reset the cock?


See my post.
/ftfy
 
2018-03-13 02:40:01 PM  

Dimensio: Waiting on the gun nuts to ammosplain why this does not count as a school shootingand so we cannot cite it as reasonto make guns harder for any yahoo to buy.


To be fair, if police officers are the yahoos, it's going to be really hard to justify restricting their access to guns.
 
2018-03-13 02:41:11 PM  
I don't understand.

So you're saying that if there are more guns in the hands of "trained" professionals, there will also be an increase in the number of guns being accidentally discharged?

Something doesn't track there, at least as far as the NRA has assured me.
 
2018-03-13 02:41:29 PM  
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2018-03-13 02:44:20 PM  

The_Sponge: [img.fark.net image 400x600]


Thanks for posting that. Now my cubicle smells like B.O. and patchouli.
 
2018-03-13 02:44:33 PM  
Nice one derpmitter
 
2018-03-13 02:44:52 PM  

ChipNASA: The_Sponge: [img.fark.net image 400x600]

Thanks for posting that. Now my cubicle smells like B.O. and patchouli.


Oh and weed. Now I'm probably going to get fired.
 
2018-03-13 02:45:31 PM  
Ooops.
 
2018-03-13 02:47:31 PM  
Snore.
 
2018-03-13 02:48:11 PM  

Dimensio: Waiting on the gun nuts to ammosplain why this does not count as a school shootingand so we cannot cite it as reasonto make guns harder for any yahoo to buy.


And I'm waiting for the anti-gunners to tot it up in the "school shooting" statistics, thus further justifying their belief that all firearms must be confiscated.
 
2018-03-13 02:48:55 PM  

ChipNASA: ChipNASA: The_Sponge: [img.fark.net image 400x600]

Thanks for posting that. Now my cubicle smells like B.O. and patchouli.

Oh and weed. Now I'm probably going to get fired.


When I was working office jobs, I would buy my supervisor a box of cookies.  If he wanted to do a surprise drug test... then we were ALL going down.
 
2018-03-13 02:49:36 PM  
The police department is investigating the incident. The officer has been placed on routine administrative leave.

Here let me help.
He was in his office, he was probably adjusting his holster or something and hit the trigger. It was an accident. Now take that paid leave money and the cost of the internal investigation that will ultimately  determine it was just an accident, and spend it something that matters.

You're welcome.
 
2018-03-13 02:49:40 PM  

Petit_Merdeux: The solution to this is more guns.


Trick question. The correct answer is always more guns. Praise Jesus.
 
2018-03-13 02:49:41 PM  
Way to go champ.

A somewhat-related question that I've been thinking about: if teachers do start carrying in public schools, what happens first?

1)A disgruntled student gets hold of the firearm and starts shooting up the place
2)An angry teacher shoots a colleague or unruly student out of frustration
3)Accidental/Negligent discharge kills a student
 
2018-03-13 02:50:13 PM  
Moar guns moar.
 
2018-03-13 02:50:43 PM  

Wonktnod: I thought only the police should have guns, and here you're telling me that we can't trust the police either?


Nope. Police shouldn't have guns either, given how often they murder unarmed people.
 
2018-03-13 02:52:47 PM  
He was in fear for his life.  HIS LIFE!
 
2018-03-13 02:54:44 PM  
I'm going to posit that most accidental firearm discharges go unremarked (except by the operator) and unreported.
 
2018-03-13 02:55:30 PM  

LordJiro: Wonktnod: I thought only the police should have guns, and here you're telling me that we can't trust the police either?

Nope. Police shouldn't have guns either, given how often they murder unarmed people.


Maybe we should be using the British system. If you're a police officer in a situation where someone requires shooting, you CALL the guys with the guns.

/jk
 
2018-03-13 02:59:10 PM  

ChipNASA: ChipNASA: The_Sponge: [img.fark.net image 400x600]

Thanks for posting that. Now my cubicle smells like B.O. and patchouli.

Oh and weed. Now I'm probably going to get fired.



*Applause*

Sorry, dude.
 
2018-03-13 03:00:06 PM  

abhorrent1: The police department is investigating the incident. The officer has been placed on routine administrative leave.

Here let me help.
He was in his office, he was probably adjusting his holster or something and hit the trigger. It was an accident.


So he didn't have the safety on? Then he should be fired for negligence.
 
2018-03-13 03:00:50 PM  
1/2 mile from my home. Hope this doesn't screw up traffic.
 
2018-03-13 03:02:09 PM  

pastramithemosterotic: Way to go champ.

A somewhat-related question that I've been thinking about: if teachers do start carrying in public schools, what happens first?

1)A disgruntled student gets hold of the firearm and starts shooting up the place
2)An angry teacher shoots a colleague or unruly student out of frustration
3)Accidental/Negligent discharge kills a student


4) A teacher comes across a school fight between two "almost-adult thugs, who probably already have criminal records" and "being in reasonable fear for their life" shoots both. The teacher is placed on "paid administrative leave" and the families are sent a bankruptcy-causing bill from the emergency services.
 
2018-03-13 03:02:44 PM  

Theaetetus: abhorrent1: The police department is investigating the incident. The officer has been placed on routine administrative leave.

Here let me help.
He was in his office, he was probably adjusting his holster or something and hit the trigger. It was an accident.

So he didn't have the safety on? Then he should be fired for negligence.


Oh, yes he was alright.  I thought that was the point.
 
2018-03-13 03:03:33 PM  

Theaetetus: abhorrent1: The police department is investigating the incident. The officer has been placed on routine administrative leave.

Here let me help.
He was in his office, he was probably adjusting his holster or something and hit the trigger. It was an accident.

So he didn't have the safety on? Then he should be fired for negligence.


I'm assuming he was fondling it. Maybe even pointing it at an imaginary adversary and making "bang bang" noises.
 
2018-03-13 03:05:14 PM  

lostcat: Theaetetus: abhorrent1: The police department is investigating the incident. The officer has been placed on routine administrative leave.

Here let me help.
He was in his office, he was probably adjusting his holster or something and hit the trigger. It was an accident.

So he didn't have the safety on? Then he should be fired for negligence.

I'm assuming he was fondling it. Maybe even pointing it at an imaginary adversary and making "bang bang" noises.


Probably something like this

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2018-03-13 03:05:27 PM  

Theaetetus: 4) A teacher comes across a school fight between two "almost-adult thugs, who probably already have criminal records" and "being in reasonable fear for their life" shoots both. The teacher is placed on "paid administrative leave" and the families are sent a bankruptcy-causing bill from the emergency services.


Coroners are actually pretty cheap.
 
2018-03-13 03:06:20 PM  

lostcat: Theaetetus: abhorrent1: The police department is investigating the incident. The officer has been placed on routine administrative leave.

Here let me help.
He was in his office, he was probably adjusting his holster or something and hit the trigger. It was an accident.

So he didn't have the safety on? Then he should be fired for negligence.

I'm assuming he was fondling it. Maybe even pointing it at an imaginary adversary and making "bang bang" noises.


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2018-03-13 03:08:25 PM  

LordJiro: Nope. Police shouldn't have guns either, given how often they murder unarmed people.


Given the fact that the whole damn government has more guns pointed inward than outward, I'd say that it doesn't end with just the police.
 
2018-03-13 03:08:57 PM  

Theaetetus: abhorrent1: The police department is investigating the incident. The officer has been placed on routine administrative leave.

Here let me help.
He was in his office, he was probably adjusting his holster or something and hit the trigger. It was an accident.

So he didn't have the safety on? Then he should be fired for negligence.


The gun must be out of the holster, to access the trigger. If it was a Glock, as most LEO sidearms are, the only safety is on the trigger.
 
2018-03-13 03:11:19 PM  
If something is used to commit violence, adding more of those things can only add more violence.
 
2018-03-13 03:11:55 PM  

Theaetetus: abhorrent1: The police department is investigating the incident. The officer has been placed on routine administrative leave.

Here let me help.
He was in his office, he was probably adjusting his holster or something and hit the trigger. It was an accident.

So he didn't have the safety on? Then he should be fired for negligence.


I don't know. Maybe his gun doesn't have a safety.

My point was they're going to waste time and money on an "investigation" with a predetermined outcome.
You know as well as I do he won't get fired. Whether or not  I think he should is irrelevant. He won't.

Now he's on paid leave and someone else has to fill in. So they're now paying two people to his job. Plus whatever the cost of the "investigation" is.

Just say "it was an accident, no one got hurt, we're moving on"  Maybe reassign him and put someone else there. The thousands or tens of thousands they'll spend on this is nothing more than a dog & pony show.
 
2018-03-13 03:14:15 PM  

Theaetetus: abhorrent1: The police department is investigating the incident. The officer has been placed on routine administrative leave.

Here let me help.
He was in his office, he was probably adjusting his holster or something and hit the trigger. It was an accident.

So he didn't have the safety on? Then he should be fired for negligence.


A lot of handguns don't have them.  Or, as is the case with Glocks (favorite of police squads), the safety is embedded in the trigger itself.  If your finger is on the trigger, the safety is off.
 
2018-03-13 03:20:46 PM  

pastramithemosterotic: Way to go champ.

A somewhat-related question that I've been thinking about: if teachers do start carrying in public schools, what happens first?

1)A disgruntled student gets hold of the firearm and starts shooting up the place
2)An angry teacher shoots a colleague or unruly student out of frustration
3)Accidental/Negligent discharge kills a student


4) An armed teacher confronts and kills a crazed former student who rushes into the school with an AR-15.
 
2018-03-13 03:20:53 PM  

Theaetetus: pastramithemosterotic: Way to go champ.

A somewhat-related question that I've been thinking about: if teachers do start carrying in public schools, what happens first?

1)A disgruntled student gets hold of the firearm and starts shooting up the place
2)An angry teacher shoots a colleague or unruly student out of frustration
3)Accidental/Negligent discharge kills a student

4) A teacher comes across a school fight between two "almost-adult thugs, who probably already have criminal records" and "being in reasonable fear for their life" shoots both. The teacher is placed on "paid administrative leave" and the families are sent a bankruptcy-causing bill from the emergency services.


5) A hungry giant panda wanders into the cafeteria.  Eats shoots and leaves.
 
2018-03-13 03:20:54 PM  

ReasonedDiscourse: Or, as is the case with Glocks (favorite of police squads), the safety is embedded in the trigger itself. If your finger is on the trigger, the safety is off.


I never understood the logic there. It's like putting the break pedal on top of the gas pedal.
It's not a safety if it doesn't keep you from firing the gun.
 
2018-03-13 03:22:56 PM  
Thought schools were gun free zones. WTF!
 
2018-03-13 03:24:24 PM  

pastramithemosterotic: Way to go champ.

A somewhat-related question that I've been thinking about: if teachers do start carrying in public schools, what happens first?

1)A disgruntled student gets hold of the firearm and starts shooting up the place
2)An angry teacher shoots a colleague or unruly student out of frustration
3)Accidental/Negligent discharge kills a student


3, but eventually all of the above.
 
2018-03-13 03:25:08 PM  

Dimensio: Waiting on the gun nuts to ammosplain why this does not count as a school shootingand so we cannot cite it as reasonto make guns harder for any yahoo to buy.


Since when do the gun haters give a crap about police shootings?  They want civilians disarmed and denigrated.  Even the most hardcore anti-gun legislation always, ALWAYS includes explicit exemptions for all law enforcement (and when they forget to exempt them, emergency legislation is rammed through on an urgency clause to correct the error).

Also, "ammosplain"?  Really?
 
2018-03-13 03:25:48 PM  
Did he call in a school shooting to cover it up?  "Well, Andy.  I think I winged him.  He retreated pretty quickly, you know, in spite of the wounding.  Probably fatal, you know.  He'll just crawl off and die.  I mean, he ran from here but now he's probably  crawling what with all the blood loss.  Shouldn't even bother looking for him, you know?  Now, Andy.  I don't want to call myself a hero.  That's for you and the newspapers to do but I think I stopped a pretty bad actor here today.
 
2018-03-13 03:26:11 PM  

abhorrent1: ReasonedDiscourse: Or, as is the case with Glocks (favorite of police squads), the safety is embedded in the trigger itself. If your finger is on the trigger, the safety is off.

I never understood the logic there. It's like putting the break pedal on top of the gas pedal.
It's not a safety if it doesn't keep you from firing the gun.


Agreed.  And we just saw the use case for placing it elsewhere.  I suppose it prevents other types of accidental discharges.  I wonder what they were thinking.
 
2018-03-13 03:26:16 PM  
Pew.
 
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