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2018-03-13 09:06:28 AM  
Next up: An amateur martial arts student decides to launch an attack on the nearby karate tournament.
 
2018-03-13 09:13:26 AM  
This is the 3rd greenlit headline deserving of the Ironic tag in the last 24 hours that did not get it.  Has the irony tag been fired, detained, or is it just blacklisted for not donating enough to the NRA?
 
2018-03-13 09:14:58 AM  
Oh, I disagree, I think he's helping a great deal.  He's helpfully demonstrating why gun control is necessary.
 
2018-03-13 09:22:29 AM  
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2018-03-13 09:23:37 AM  
Another responsible gun owner / good guy with a gun exposed for being the complete opposite.
 
2018-03-13 09:24:16 AM  
The trouble with shooting people that want stricter gun laws is a lack of symmetry.
 
2018-03-13 09:24:22 AM  
FTA: Steele was released from police custody but will have to appear at a future court date.

What?!? They let him go!?! Dude threatens mass murder, and he makes bail?!?

/Must be white.
 
2018-03-13 09:24:33 AM  
no guns found at his residence.  Would they have been allowed to confiscate them if there were?  What is the due process?

Wouldn't it be easy for hackers to issue threats from people's computers to get their guns confiscated?
 
2018-03-13 09:24:48 AM  

Ambivalence: Oh, I disagree, I think he's helping a great deal.  He's helpfully demonstrating why gun control is necessary.


I'm definitely smarting that one but unfortunately it's not funny.
 
2018-03-13 09:25:07 AM  

harleyquinnical: This is the 3rd greenlit headline deserving of the Ironic tag in the last 24 hours that did not get it.  Has the irony tag been fired, detained, or is it just blacklisted for not donating enough to the NRA?


I heard it just got offered a job in the Trump administration.
 
2018-03-13 09:26:44 AM  

AirForceVet: FTA: Steele was released from police custody but will have to appear at a future court date.

What?!? They let him go!?! Dude threatens mass murder, and he makes bail?!?

/Must be white.


I wonder if he has a record.  I presume he could walk into a gun store and buy an AR-15.  Whatever dark space he was in - is presumably much darker now.
 
2018-03-13 09:27:07 AM  

Number 216: Another responsible gun owner / good guy with a gun exposed for being the complete opposite.


Sounds like an archetypical good guy with a gun to me.
 
2018-03-13 09:29:28 AM  

Number 216: Another responsible gun owner / good guy with a gun exposed for being the complete opposite.


He used the term "machine gun". I doubt he owns any guns, but probably has a nice collection of fantasy knives, throwing stars and numchucks.
 
2018-03-13 09:30:09 AM  

mrshowrules: no guns found at his residence.  Would they have been allowed to confiscate them if there were?  What is the due process?

Wouldn't it be easy for hackers to issue threats from people's computers to get their guns confiscated?


CyberSwatting? Intriguing, but still bad.
 
2018-03-13 09:30:21 AM  

mrshowrules: no guns found at his residence.  Would they have been allowed to confiscate them if there were?  What is the due process?

Wouldn't it be easy for hackers to issue threats from people's computers to get their guns confiscated?


NJ has pretty strict gun laws. I don't think semi autos are allowed anymore. When my FIL died, 20 years ago, he left a small arsenal, some of which I had to go to Pennsyltucky to sell. One was a 1972 Colt AR 15, which was super cool, and I almost wish I'd kept it, but it was a liability.

Anyway, if they'd found an AR 15 or similar rifle, yes, they'd probably have taken it, terroristic threats or not. You can't even have a  non auto .22 with a capacity of more than 15 rounds in NJ.

Which is fine.
 
2018-03-13 09:31:55 AM  
Interesting mindset.  "Those people want gun control.  If I start shooting at them, that will convince them that we don't need gun control".
 
2018-03-13 09:31:57 AM  
I'm worried about this happening at one of the marches on the 24th.
 
2018-03-13 09:32:06 AM  
We've had threats at most of the local high schools that if students walk out of school protesting gun violence in schools(March 20th? for 17 minutes), that somebody will shoot at them.   The schools are trying to change the rally to be inside the gym/auditorium to accommodate the threat.
 
2018-03-13 09:32:54 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: harleyquinnical: This is the 3rd greenlit headline deserving of the Ironic tag in the last 24 hours that did not get it.  Has the irony tag been fired, detained, or is it just blacklisted for not donating enough to the NRA?

I heard it just got offered a job in the Trump administration.


I thought it was arrested for threatening to shoot up a fark thread on twitter.
 
2018-03-13 09:35:34 AM  
Shane Steele..

Sounds like a gay porn star name.
 
2018-03-13 09:39:54 AM  
Shane Steele, 42

42?  Jesus, Shane, get it together.  I mean, really.  You're 42.
 
2018-03-13 09:43:05 AM  

JuggleGeek: Interesting mindset.  "Those people want gun control.  If I start shooting at them, that will convince them that we don't need gun control".


No, the mindset is, "They are a threat to me. Gun grabbers are a threat, Black Lives Matter is a threat, Democrats are a threat, illegals are a threat, Muslims are a threat" etc, etc.

Subscribe to the NRA email, newsletter, watch Fox News, and listen to AM radio and you will think whites are in danger. Keep millions of impressionable dimwits worked up like that and a good number will act out and start shooting.
 
2018-03-13 09:43:46 AM  
Here's a helpful hint for all you whackjobs... If you're planning something illegal, it's generally not a good idea to run out and tell the whole farking world about it on Facebook.

mrshowrules: I wonder if he has a record. I presume he could walk into a gun store and buy an AR-15. Whatever dark space he was in - is presumably much darker now.


Not in New Jersey
 
2018-03-13 09:43:55 AM  
Anti gun protestors: wouldn't it be great if fewer people got shot?
Responsible gun owner: hold my beer
 
2018-03-13 09:45:49 AM  

JuggleGeek: Interesting mindset.  "Those people want gun control.  If I start shooting at them, that will convince them that we don't need gun control".


If he didn't even own any guns, what was he doing?
Was he on drugs?  Was it really him or is this the new Swatting?
 
2018-03-13 09:48:06 AM  

big pig peaches: Number 216: Another responsible gun owner / good guy with a gun exposed for being the complete opposite.

He used the term "machine gun". I doubt he owns any guns, but probably has a nice collection of fantasy knives, throwing stars and numchucks.


Pretty much this, I'd wager.  I'd also wager they only had to search the basement, and his mom was mortified to have cops in the house, pleading, "He's a good boy!"

Even so, nobody can afford to take threats like this lightly any more, such is the world we live in.
 
2018-03-13 09:52:49 AM  

TheGogmagog: We've had threats at most of the local high schools that if students walk out of school protesting gun violence in schools(March 20th? for 17 minutes), that somebody will shoot at them.   The schools are trying to change the rally to be inside the gym/auditorium to accommodate the threat.


This is exactly what's going to happen at the school where I work.
 
2018-03-13 09:52:57 AM  

AirForceVet: FTA: Steele was released from police custody but will have to appear at a future court date.

What?!? They let him go!?! Dude threatens mass murder, and he makes bail?!?

/Must be white.


Do you propose they hold him indefinitely like a Gitmo detainee?
 
2018-03-13 09:53:48 AM  
He should get charged with 1 count for everyone who shows up to the rally.
 
2018-03-13 09:53:53 AM  
....and people around my neck of the woods don't like the walk-outs partially because it may be prone to violence there.
 
2018-03-13 09:57:15 AM  
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2018-03-13 10:07:07 AM  
2nd Amendment fanatics are hands down the biggest threat to our 2nd Amendment rights.
 
2018-03-13 10:11:10 AM  

Ambivalence: Oh, I disagree, I think he's helping a great deal.  He's helpfully demonstrating why gun control is necessary.


He made a threat and was arrested/charged with a felony for making a threat irrespective of any firearms laws (or apparently even firearm ownership according to TFA.)

The viewpoint that everything is either a gun control success story or an example of why more gun control is needed is as broken as the viewpoint that any firearms restriction can't be tolerated.
 
2018-03-13 10:17:00 AM  
What a Moran might look like.
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2018-03-13 10:21:31 AM  

Ambivalence: Oh, I disagree, I think he's helping a great deal.  He's helpfully demonstrating why gun control is necessary.


Obviously an Antifa False Flag operation.
 
2018-03-13 10:23:07 AM  

big pig peaches: Number 216: Another responsible gun owner / good guy with a gun exposed for being the complete opposite.

He used the term "machine gun". I doubt he owns any guns, but probably has a nice collection of fantasy knives, throwing stars and numchucks.


Don't forget to mention the cool ass swords .
 
2018-03-13 10:23:25 AM  
Man with no guns threatens to shoot up anti gun rally.

Thousands of people with basement safes full of guns simply put holes in paper, drink beer, and enjoy the company of friends and family.

Bitter clingers....
 
2018-03-13 10:24:18 AM  

OtherLittleGuy: mrshowrules: no guns found at his residence.  Would they have been allowed to confiscate them if there were?  What is the due process?

Wouldn't it be easy for hackers to issue threats from people's computers to get their guns confiscated?

CyberSwatting? Intriguing, but still bad.


That would actually be interesting: Pro-thugcop types getting first hand experience with over-the-top police response. Naaa, they'd just blame Obama.
 
2018-03-13 10:26:54 AM  

TheGogmagog: We've had threats at most of the local high schools that if students walk out of school protesting gun violence in schools(March 20th? for 17 minutes), that somebody will shoot at them.   The schools are trying to change the rally to be inside the gym/auditorium to accommodate the threat.


Lamest rally EVERRRR...
 
2018-03-13 10:32:51 AM  
Straw men. Strawmen everywhere.

This guy indeed helped out. Simply by exposing his self as the type of person who shouldn't be allowed to have guns. What's novel in this case is that the system actually worked as intended, and... crisis averted.
 
2018-03-13 10:34:47 AM  

TheGogmagog: We've had threats at most of the local high schools that if students walk out of school protesting gun violence in schools(March 20th? for 17 minutes), that somebody will shoot at them.   The schools are trying to change the rally to be inside the gym/auditorium to accommodate the threat.


If this is how Civil War II starts, with individual right wing nutbars shooting random "liberal" meetups, then things will not go well for the far right. It will ultimately create an irresistible public demand for an official (and very violent) government cleanup of them. The fact that it will also mark our transition to total confiscation of guns and dictatorship is almost unremarkable in the face of the irony. And it will be irony of the highest order: Nazis and Neo-Nazis - now no longer useful - killed or rounded up. And then killed. It will be a new Night of the Long Knives, a replay of Hitler's betrayal of the Brownshirts to the German General Staff.
 
2018-03-13 10:39:19 AM  

Cdr.Murdock: Man with no guns threatens to shoot up anti gun rally.

Thousands of people with basement safes full of guns simply put holes in paper, drink beer, and enjoy the company of friends and family.

Bitter clingers....


This man doesn't represent the majority, or even the minority of gun owners in the United States.

But that small tiny fraction is still the reason why we need gun control.  There simply is no reason for the average person to possess semi-automatic weapons.  Gun owners and manufacturers need to be held liable and responsible for the risk they bring to communities.   This is just as true now as it was before this incident.

Gun owners can find other ways to amuse themselves  other than training to shoot soft targets.
 
2018-03-13 10:43:18 AM  
Wouldn't it make more sense for this guy to go after an NRA rally? When the good guys with guns stop him, he would had made the pro gun arguments he supports.
 
2018-03-13 10:44:32 AM  

HAMMERTOE: Straw men. Strawmen everywhere.

This guy indeed helped out. Simply by exposing his self as the type of person who shouldn't be allowed to have guns. What's novel in this case is that the system actually worked as intended, and... crisis averted.


Not yet. They let him out. Unless he is chained to his front porch, which the article did not mention, he is certainly free to obtain the required hardware to carry out his plan.
 
2018-03-13 10:45:10 AM  

TheKingHippo: What a Moran might look like.
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What a Moronie might look like.

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2018-03-13 10:48:52 AM  

HAMMERTOE: Straw men. Strawmen everywhere.

This guy indeed helped out. Simply by exposing his self as the type of person who shouldn't be allowed to have guns. What's novel in this case is that the system actually worked as intended, and... crisis averted.


What would be cool is if RW armed protestors show up at his "show" trial and threaten the judge. We need to get this show on the road!
 
2018-03-13 10:49:09 AM  

Harlee: TheGogmagog: We've had threats at most of the local high schools that if students walk out of school protesting gun violence in schools(March 20th? for 17 minutes), that somebody will shoot at them.   The schools are trying to change the rally to be inside the gym/auditorium to accommodate the threat.

If this is how Civil War II starts, with individual right wing nutbars shooting random "liberal" meetups, then things will not go well for the far right. It will ultimately create an irresistible public demand for an official (and very violent) government cleanup of them. The fact that it will also mark our transition to total confiscation of guns and dictatorship is almost unremarkable in the face of the irony. And it will be irony of the highest order: Nazis and Neo-Nazis - now no longer useful - killed or rounded up. And then killed. It will be a new Night of the Long Knives, a replay of Hitler's betrayal of the Brownshirts to the German General Staff.


Are you comparing gun owners in America to Jews in Nazi Germany? WTF is wrong with you?
 
2018-03-13 10:49:18 AM  
And the NRA nods in approval.
Directive coming soon to NRA members:  Amp It Up!
 
2018-03-13 10:51:04 AM  

Voiceofreason01: Harlee: TheGogmagog: We've had threats at most of the local high schools that if students walk out of school protesting gun violence in schools(March 20th? for 17 minutes), that somebody will shoot at them.   The schools are trying to change the rally to be inside the gym/auditorium to accommodate the threat.

If this is how Civil War II starts, with individual right wing nutbars shooting random "liberal" meetups, then things will not go well for the far right. It will ultimately create an irresistible public demand for an official (and very violent) government cleanup of them. The fact that it will also mark our transition to total confiscation of guns and dictatorship is almost unremarkable in the face of the irony. And it will be irony of the highest order: Nazis and Neo-Nazis - now no longer useful - killed or rounded up. And then killed. It will be a new Night of the Long Knives, a replay of Hitler's betrayal of the Brownshirts to the German General Staff.

Are you comparing gun owners in America to Jews in Nazi Germany? WTF is wrong with you?


They can have my gun when the pry it from my toasty hands in a warm oven!
 
2018-03-13 10:51:24 AM  

Ambivalence: Oh, I disagree, I think he's helping a great deal.  He's helpfully demonstrating why gun control is necessary.


Judging from the article:

Police were able to trace the post back to Steel's home, according to the statement. No weapons were found at the residence.

It seems like he's the poster boy fsome common sense free speech restrictions.
 
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