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2018-03-08 10:32:36 PM  
10 votes:
If you don't believe in man made climate change, you are a god damned moron.
2018-03-08 11:08:11 PM  
7 votes:

johnphantom: If you don't believe in man made climate change, you are a god damned moron.


If you believe in man made climate change, you are a god damned moron.

Fixed it for you.
2018-03-08 09:28:48 PM  
6 votes:

BalugaJoe: Global warming.


Most snowstorms in the 20th Century in the continental USA were in warmer than average winters.

Tons of factors play a role in weather but...
More moisture is a positive ingredient for more snow
Higher temperature (ex. 31F vs. 11F) is a positive ingredient for more snow
Higher temperature ahead of the front is a positive ingredient for more snow

Places like NYC are still going to be able get below 32 in winter even in a much warmer climate than now.

Don't forget how farking warm February was.
2018-03-09 01:18:33 AM  
4 votes:

stirfrybry: johnphantom: If you don't believe in man made climate change, you are a god damned moron.

Or you have a good understanding of statistics and polynomial regression.


And can't balance a chemical equation, reject the IR spectrum of CO2, and are pigheaded ignorant.
2018-03-08 11:55:18 PM  
4 votes:

FlyingBacon: johnphantom: If you don't believe in man made climate change, you are a god damned moron.

If you believe in man made climate change, you are a god damned moron.

Fixed it for you.


97% of climate scientists would disagree with you. The other 3% work for the oil industry.

You are the fool.
2018-03-08 10:03:58 PM  
4 votes:
Funny. I seem to recall my history classes saying Northeaster was a term from about when the Pilgrims hit our shores and they could be common. No global warming needed. It's just basically a bad winter storm. Like that's never happened before. I've been ass deep in snow in CT and PA in the 80's and 90's. It happens. Break out the shovels and move on.
2018-03-08 09:44:53 PM  
4 votes:

PapermonkeyExpress: Sean M: Yep, definitely due to global warming.  No one's ever lost power before due to a storm before.

Ever in the history of mankind until Al Gore.


They did happen before that, but until he invented the internet we had no way of knowing about them
2018-03-08 09:30:00 PM  
4 votes:
Yep, definitely due to global warming.  No one's ever lost power before due to a storm before.
2018-03-09 04:41:04 PM  
3 votes:
Oh wow, that was saddening to read. Full fundy mode has been activated for him.
2018-03-09 02:47:59 AM  
3 votes:
People crying "Global Warming Don't Exist" here sure aren't noticing the massively reduced ice extent in the arctic.

/get farked
//if you deny climate change and aren't getting paid by big oil, you're the worst sort of moron.
2018-03-08 11:11:01 PM  
3 votes:

Radioactive Ass: Shakin_Haitian: Radioactive Ass: Funny. I seem to recall my history classes saying Northeaster was a term from about when the Pilgrims hit our shores and they could be common. No global warming needed. It's just basically a bad winter storm. Like that's never happened before. I've been ass deep in snow in CT and PA in the 80's and 90's. It happens. Break out the shovels and move on.

Yeah, not like these noreasters.  These noreasters are getting to be winter hurricanes.

Noreasters are by definition a winter hurricane and always have been because of how they form and track up the coast on the same track as a summer hurricane. The winds are exactly the same in direction (to the North East which is how they get their name). They just don't get named by the NWS. That's how common they are. Not every year of course but in which year does every storm type follow a schedule? Ask California about that. It's weather. Climate change types hype the storms that they predict every year but never mention when they predicted a lot of storms and nothing of consequence happened. I trust them like I'd trust a puppy to not pee on the floor when I go to work.


Ummm... No. Noreasters don't normally form in the tropics. They're generally extratropical and used to not form eyewalls. They also generally only gust up to hurricane strength winds rather than sustain them.
2018-03-08 10:23:25 PM  
3 votes:

Radioactive Ass: Funny. I seem to recall my history classes saying Northeaster was a term from about when the Pilgrims hit our shores and they could be common. No global warming needed. It's just basically a bad winter storm. Like that's never happened before. I've been ass deep in snow in CT and PA in the 80's and 90's. It happens. Break out the shovels and move on.


Yeah, not like these noreasters.  These noreasters are getting to be winter hurricanes.
2018-03-08 09:30:50 PM  
3 votes:
i'm fairly sure they are equally powerless against unicorns, big foot, a cleveland brown superbowl victory riot and rational feminists as well
2018-03-08 07:30:11 PM  
3 votes:
Global warming.
2018-03-09 11:39:53 AM  
2 votes:

rewind2846: Radioactive Ass: It's just basically a bad winter storm. Like that's never happened before.

And this is where the fail happens. Climate change means that those storms will happen more often or with greater intensity or both. Droughts will happen more often and stay longer. There will be less snow in some places that need it and more snow in places that don't. There will be less rain in the places that need it and more rain in the places that don't. And so on.

Simply put, it's an ALTERATION in the regular climate patterns. That's the "change" in Climate Change.
Is this truly that difficult to understand?


So it's whatever you want it to be. Got it.
2018-03-09 05:38:44 AM  
2 votes:

Tatsuma: WelldeadLink:Someone's memorized 97 without looking at the problems with that number.

There's nothing quite like the zeal of the religious fanatic when someone is contesting the orthodoxy


Ah Tats is back!

I'd rather have scientists as orthodoxy than big oil.
2018-03-09 12:17:08 AM  
2 votes:

BalugaJoe: Global warming.


Very likely a contributing factor due to warmer than usual arctic air pushing southward towards equatorial air moving up over the Atlantic Ocean, yes.
2018-03-08 11:59:04 PM  
2 votes:

johnphantom: FlyingBacon: johnphantom: If you don't believe in man made climate change, you are a god damned moron.

If you believe in man made climate change, you are a god damned moron.

Fixed it for you.

97% of climate scientists would disagree with you. The other 3% work for the oil industry.

You are the fool.


Someone's memorized 97 without looking at the problems with that number.
2018-03-08 11:00:08 PM  
2 votes:

johnphantom: If you don't believe in man made climate change, you are a god damned moron.


I just drove across the lakebed of the southern lobe of the former Lake Agassiz this evening so I'm on board.

It was still around a mere 8,000 years ago, but due to rapid climate change is gone for good.
2018-03-08 10:48:44 PM  
2 votes:

Shakin_Haitian: Radioactive Ass: Funny. I seem to recall my history classes saying Northeaster was a term from about when the Pilgrims hit our shores and they could be common. No global warming needed. It's just basically a bad winter storm. Like that's never happened before. I've been ass deep in snow in CT and PA in the 80's and 90's. It happens. Break out the shovels and move on.

Yeah, not like these noreasters.  These noreasters are getting to be winter hurricanes.


Noreasters are by definition a winter hurricane and always have been because of how they form and track up the coast on the same track as a summer hurricane. The winds are exactly the same in direction (to the North East which is how they get their name). They just don't get named by the NWS. That's how common they are. Not every year of course but in which year does every storm type follow a schedule? Ask California about that. It's weather. Climate change types hype the storms that they predict every year but never mention when they predicted a lot of storms and nothing of consequence happened. I trust them like I'd trust a puppy to not pee on the floor when I go to work.
2018-03-08 10:37:27 PM  
2 votes:
And another one is on the way.  What is that, four once in a generation storms back to back to back to back?
2018-03-08 10:21:42 PM  
2 votes:
Repent, carbon sinners, before the oceans boil and and the mountains melt
2018-03-08 10:13:51 PM  
2 votes:
Dinodork

We've gotten about 4 inches all winter here in Colorado... gonna be a bad summer for fires.

    There is no relation, the snow pack is long gone by fire season especially on south facing terrain. We had epic snow last winter, my last day of ski touring was May 16 in a raging blizzard. After that we had 120 or so days with no precip, and a brutal fire season. Mind you it was compounded by our governments' utter incompetence.
     More likely to get more rain than normal due to little precip you've had this winter. I'll bet on floods .....
2018-03-08 10:07:55 PM  
2 votes:
Well, look on the bright side folks- at least you are not surrounded by big, big water, so they should be able to fix you folks up right quick now.

/stay warm people and dont use propane garage heaters inside
2018-03-08 09:57:04 PM  
2 votes:

Dinodork: We've gotten about 4 inches all winter here in Colorado... gonna be a bad summer for fires.


That's gonna play hell with my outdoor BBQ. Good thing I've got a hose and shovel.
2018-03-08 09:38:03 PM  
2 votes:

Sean M: Yep, definitely due to global warming.  No one's ever lost power before due to a storm before.


Had some real high temps 10 days ago. Fooled the trees who started budding. Held much more snow because of that. Plus a wet sticky snow. Not one thing but the false spring contributed.
2018-03-08 09:29:48 PM  
2 votes:
But it's winter
2018-03-09 02:17:22 PM  
1 vote:

Shakin_Haitian: Zafler: I don't recall Tats being particularly anti-science. New development or reanimated login?

It's still funny seeing him being supported by the guy that only trusts Watts.

From what limited interaction I had with him, he was heading in that direction.  He was becoming increasingly fundamentalist and with that comes with a decreased trust in reality.


Anti-science? G-d forbid! Torah and science are not in any way in conflict. Facts are facts, statistics that are valid are valid, etc... and to deny them is nonsense

That's why for example I hold that someone born with XY chromosomes will be a man until the day they die, that firearms save anywhere between 500,000 to 3.000,000 lives a year while only a fraction of the 33,000 or so yearly deaths are not attributable to suicides or inner city gang warfare, and that Bernie Sanders' plan for the economy would have absolutely destroyed America per the consensus of basically any economist to the right of Marx

I'm 100% behind science

Reverend J: Tatsuma: i'm fairly sure they are equally powerless against unicorns, big foot, a cleveland brown superbowl victory riot and rational feminists as well

You live! Was worried I'd never see your somewhat trolly snark ever again.


lol, enjoy fam
2018-03-09 09:19:34 AM  
1 vote:

abhorrent1: The longest I was ever without power was three days. That totally sucked and that was in the summer.


Generac FTW..
2018-03-09 08:31:16 AM  
1 vote:
Central NH checking in.  I lost power twice yesterday, for maybe a total of 30 seconds.  It was brutal, I had to restart the computer twice.

My theory:  This storm was less about the weather, and more about the utility companies and/or towns not properly maintaining the grid.  Not trimming back overhead branches, not removing trees at risk of falling, that kind of thing.
2018-03-09 12:45:01 AM  
1 vote:
WelldeadLink:Someone's memorized 97 without looking at the problems with that number.

There's nothing quite like the zeal of the religious fanatic when someone is contesting the orthodoxy
2018-03-08 11:48:55 PM  
1 vote:

johnphantom: If you don't believe in man made climate change, you are a god damned moron.


Or you have a good understanding of statistics and polynomial regression.
2018-03-08 10:41:33 PM  
1 vote:

PhilCollinsBeatBox: since we don't understand weather 100% we should assume the odds of a problem are 0%


weather and climate are different
2018-03-08 10:03:17 PM  
1 vote:

Branniganslaw: Mentat: And number 3 is coming Monday!

Seriously? God dammit I don't have time for this shiat. I have to drive from Philly to Wilmington for a job interview that day...


Start now.
2018-03-08 09:47:55 PM  
1 vote:
We've gotten about 4 inches all winter here in Colorado... gonna be a bad summer for fires.
2018-03-08 09:42:15 PM  
1 vote:

Sean M: Yep, definitely due to global warming.  No one's ever lost power before due to a storm before.


Ever in the history of mankind until Al Gore.
2018-03-08 09:24:29 PM  
1 vote:
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2018-03-08 08:41:13 PM  
1 vote:

BalugaJoe: Global warming.


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