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2018-03-08 07:30:11 PM  
Global warming.
 
2018-03-08 08:31:24 PM  
They estimate I'll get power Sunday
 
2018-03-08 08:33:56 PM  

wademh: They estimate I'll get power Sunday


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in the neighborhood
 
2018-03-08 08:41:13 PM  

BalugaJoe: Global warming.


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2018-03-08 08:52:14 PM  
And number 3 is coming Monday!
 
2018-03-08 09:24:29 PM  
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We have been out since midnight.
 
2018-03-08 09:27:34 PM  
It's been cold as hell here. No snow though. Damn that Al Gore. Damn him to hell!
 
2018-03-08 09:28:48 PM  

BalugaJoe: Global warming.


Most snowstorms in the 20th Century in the continental USA were in warmer than average winters.

Tons of factors play a role in weather but...
More moisture is a positive ingredient for more snow
Higher temperature (ex. 31F vs. 11F) is a positive ingredient for more snow
Higher temperature ahead of the front is a positive ingredient for more snow

Places like NYC are still going to be able get below 32 in winter even in a much warmer climate than now.

Don't forget how farking warm February was.
 
2018-03-08 09:29:48 PM  
But it's winter
 
2018-03-08 09:30:00 PM  
Yep, definitely due to global warming.  No one's ever lost power before due to a storm before.
 
2018-03-08 09:30:17 PM  

Mentat: And number 3 is coming Monday!


It's supposed to get up to 70 here tomorrow.

/ it'll start at 20.
 
2018-03-08 09:30:50 PM  
i'm fairly sure they are equally powerless against unicorns, big foot, a cleveland brown superbowl victory riot and rational feminists as well
 
2018-03-08 09:34:23 PM  
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2018-03-08 09:36:01 PM  

Mentat: And number 3 is coming Monday!


Seriously? God dammit I don't have time for this shiat. I have to drive from Philly to Wilmington for a job interview that day...
 
2018-03-08 09:38:03 PM  

Sean M: Yep, definitely due to global warming.  No one's ever lost power before due to a storm before.


Had some real high temps 10 days ago. Fooled the trees who started budding. Held much more snow because of that. Plus a wet sticky snow. Not one thing but the false spring contributed.
 
2018-03-08 09:42:15 PM  

Sean M: Yep, definitely due to global warming.  No one's ever lost power before due to a storm before.


Ever in the history of mankind until Al Gore.
 
2018-03-08 09:44:53 PM  

PapermonkeyExpress: Sean M: Yep, definitely due to global warming.  No one's ever lost power before due to a storm before.

Ever in the history of mankind until Al Gore.


They did happen before that, but until he invented the internet we had no way of knowing about them
 
2018-03-08 09:47:30 PM  
Headline of the century.
 
2018-03-08 09:47:55 PM  
We've gotten about 4 inches all winter here in Colorado... gonna be a bad summer for fires.
 
2018-03-08 09:52:36 PM  
since we don't understand weather 100% we should assume the odds of a problem are 0%
 
2018-03-08 09:56:34 PM  

12349876: BalugaJoe: Global warming.

Higher temperature (ex. 31F vs. 11F) is a positive ingredient for more snow


Nope not quite. The primary way that really has an effect is on the amount of moisture the air can hold, and potentially convective instability, but this depends on the lapse rates.
You need forcing too, or lift in other words. Most likely, the rise in temperature you're noticing is due to low pressure (areas of rising air, generally).
 
2018-03-08 09:57:04 PM  

Dinodork: We've gotten about 4 inches all winter here in Colorado... gonna be a bad summer for fires.


That's gonna play hell with my outdoor BBQ. Good thing I've got a hose and shovel.
 
2018-03-08 10:03:17 PM  

Branniganslaw: Mentat: And number 3 is coming Monday!

Seriously? God dammit I don't have time for this shiat. I have to drive from Philly to Wilmington for a job interview that day...


Start now.
 
2018-03-08 10:03:58 PM  
Funny. I seem to recall my history classes saying Northeaster was a term from about when the Pilgrims hit our shores and they could be common. No global warming needed. It's just basically a bad winter storm. Like that's never happened before. I've been ass deep in snow in CT and PA in the 80's and 90's. It happens. Break out the shovels and move on.
 
2018-03-08 10:04:03 PM  

wademh: They estimate I'll get power Sunday


Your pedal-powered generator is doing pretty well.
 
2018-03-08 10:07:55 PM  
Well, look on the bright side folks- at least you are not surrounded by big, big water, so they should be able to fix you folks up right quick now.

/stay warm people and dont use propane garage heaters inside
 
2018-03-08 10:08:04 PM  
Manbearpig.jog
 
2018-03-08 10:10:22 PM  
We get snow here just the way I like it. 70+ miles away, and way the hell up on top of the mountains.
 
2018-03-08 10:13:51 PM  
Dinodork

We've gotten about 4 inches all winter here in Colorado... gonna be a bad summer for fires.

    There is no relation, the snow pack is long gone by fire season especially on south facing terrain. We had epic snow last winter, my last day of ski touring was May 16 in a raging blizzard. After that we had 120 or so days with no precip, and a brutal fire season. Mind you it was compounded by our governments' utter incompetence.
     More likely to get more rain than normal due to little precip you've had this winter. I'll bet on floods .....
 
2018-03-08 10:18:48 PM  
Odd storm. I was in a band that only got two inches or so. Go two miles in any direction and you were looking at an 8-15" range
 
2018-03-08 10:21:42 PM  
Repent, carbon sinners, before the oceans boil and and the mountains melt
 
2018-03-08 10:23:25 PM  

Radioactive Ass: Funny. I seem to recall my history classes saying Northeaster was a term from about when the Pilgrims hit our shores and they could be common. No global warming needed. It's just basically a bad winter storm. Like that's never happened before. I've been ass deep in snow in CT and PA in the 80's and 90's. It happens. Break out the shovels and move on.


Yeah, not like these noreasters.  These noreasters are getting to be winter hurricanes.
 
2018-03-08 10:24:03 PM  

Branniganslaw: Mentat: And number 3 is coming Monday!

Seriously? God dammit I don't have time for this shiat. I have to drive from Philly to Wilmington for a job interview that day...


Chill, dude. McDonald will reschedule.
 
2018-03-08 10:30:43 PM  
Meanwhile in Dallas, it will be in the 80s on Saturday.
 
2018-03-08 10:31:51 PM  

texdent: Meanwhile in Dallas, it will be in the 80s on Saturday.


Er...70s, was looking at the wrong map
 
2018-03-08 10:32:36 PM  
If you don't believe in man made climate change, you are a god damned moron.
 
2018-03-08 10:33:39 PM  
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2018-03-08 10:37:27 PM  
And another one is on the way.  What is that, four once in a generation storms back to back to back to back?
 
2018-03-08 10:41:33 PM  

PhilCollinsBeatBox: since we don't understand weather 100% we should assume the odds of a problem are 0%


weather and climate are different
 
2018-03-08 10:48:44 PM  

Shakin_Haitian: Radioactive Ass: Funny. I seem to recall my history classes saying Northeaster was a term from about when the Pilgrims hit our shores and they could be common. No global warming needed. It's just basically a bad winter storm. Like that's never happened before. I've been ass deep in snow in CT and PA in the 80's and 90's. It happens. Break out the shovels and move on.

Yeah, not like these noreasters.  These noreasters are getting to be winter hurricanes.


Noreasters are by definition a winter hurricane and always have been because of how they form and track up the coast on the same track as a summer hurricane. The winds are exactly the same in direction (to the North East which is how they get their name). They just don't get named by the NWS. That's how common they are. Not every year of course but in which year does every storm type follow a schedule? Ask California about that. It's weather. Climate change types hype the storms that they predict every year but never mention when they predicted a lot of storms and nothing of consequence happened. I trust them like I'd trust a puppy to not pee on the floor when I go to work.
 
2018-03-08 10:50:32 PM  
ifky: I was in a band that only got two inches or so.

Were you in the warm-up band?
 
2018-03-08 10:56:16 PM  
My sister's street in Montclair NJ:
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2018-03-08 11:00:08 PM  

johnphantom: If you don't believe in man made climate change, you are a god damned moron.


I just drove across the lakebed of the southern lobe of the former Lake Agassiz this evening so I'm on board.

It was still around a mere 8,000 years ago, but due to rapid climate change is gone for good.
 
2018-03-08 11:08:11 PM  

johnphantom: If you don't believe in man made climate change, you are a god damned moron.


If you believe in man made climate change, you are a god damned moron.

Fixed it for you.
 
2018-03-08 11:11:01 PM  

Radioactive Ass: Shakin_Haitian: Radioactive Ass: Funny. I seem to recall my history classes saying Northeaster was a term from about when the Pilgrims hit our shores and they could be common. No global warming needed. It's just basically a bad winter storm. Like that's never happened before. I've been ass deep in snow in CT and PA in the 80's and 90's. It happens. Break out the shovels and move on.

Yeah, not like these noreasters.  These noreasters are getting to be winter hurricanes.

Noreasters are by definition a winter hurricane and always have been because of how they form and track up the coast on the same track as a summer hurricane. The winds are exactly the same in direction (to the North East which is how they get their name). They just don't get named by the NWS. That's how common they are. Not every year of course but in which year does every storm type follow a schedule? Ask California about that. It's weather. Climate change types hype the storms that they predict every year but never mention when they predicted a lot of storms and nothing of consequence happened. I trust them like I'd trust a puppy to not pee on the floor when I go to work.


Ummm... No. Noreasters don't normally form in the tropics. They're generally extratropical and used to not form eyewalls. They also generally only gust up to hurricane strength winds rather than sustain them.
 
2018-03-08 11:11:35 PM  

ifky: Odd storm. I was in a band that only got two inches or so. Go two miles in any direction and you were looking at an 8-15" range


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Wishing for 2" or so
 
2018-03-08 11:13:09 PM  
The longest I was ever without power was three days. That totally sucked and that was in the summer.
 
2018-03-08 11:23:40 PM  

apathy2673: My sister's street in Montclair NJ:
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Did they pick up the recycling?
 
2018-03-08 11:34:29 PM  

Tatsuma: i'm fairly sure they are equally powerless against unicorns, big foot, a cleveland brown superbowl victory riot and rational feminists as well


You live! Was worried I'd never see your somewhat trolly snark ever again.
 
2018-03-08 11:48:55 PM  

johnphantom: If you don't believe in man made climate change, you are a god damned moron.


Or you have a good understanding of statistics and polynomial regression.
 
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