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(Alaska Dispatch News)   Having solved all problems in America, the feds are suing a garbage company over a $350 neon palm tree full of dead pigeons   ( adn.com) divider line
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2018-03-08 03:37:42 PM  
9 votes:
You are aware, Subby, that the federal government has more than 3 employees, right?
2018-03-08 03:58:06 PM  
6 votes:

phalamir: You are aware, Subby, that the federal government has more than 3 employees, right?


No, subby is right - the government shouldn't do anything until it has done everything. Also, it shouldn't do anything. Got it?
2018-03-08 05:22:42 PM  
4 votes:

Bslim: "But then it turned into a big, threatening federal overreach."


Oh brrrrrrrother


No, it's accurate.

They stole the entire motel.  THAT is the real crime here.
2018-03-08 04:16:54 PM  
4 votes:
"the federal government ... claimed the property last year when its owner was sentenced to prison for selling a bag of meth."

Am I the only one who has a problem with this?
2018-03-08 05:24:36 PM  
3 votes:

Azlefty: RedT: "the federal government ... claimed the property last year when its owner was sentenced to prison for selling a bag of meth."

Am I the only one who has a problem with this?

Well he should not have sold the  meth at the  hotel he owned, by doing so he showed that the property was part of his drug operation making it a "ill-gotten gain."  This is way different than ol Deputy Billy Bob Seizing Grandmas 10K during a traffic stop cause people smuggle drugs on this here highway.  This is how RICO  was intended to work


It's exactly the same thing as stealing grandma's $10k during a traffic stop - legalized theft.
2018-03-08 05:35:29 PM  
2 votes:
I wouldn't call this a waste of government money like some are saying (in other places I've seen this linked).

Government lawyers get paid whether they are in court or not.  Judges, court personnel, court premises, etc., are fixed cost:  They cost the same regardless what case is being tried, whether a case is being tried at all.

Also, new government attorneys having the misfortune of being posted in Alaska need to cut their teeth on cases of lesser importance.
2018-03-08 04:29:09 PM  
2 votes:
"Take care of it," he said.

"It's watered," Wilson's attorney said. "Cared for."


THAT made RTFA worth it.
2018-03-08 04:10:03 PM  
2 votes:
That looks like the kind of fleabag flophouse you don't do any sleeping in and all the lovemaking you do you would want to do standing up.

I'm guessing their hourly rates are reasonable though.
2018-03-08 03:56:25 PM  
2 votes:
"But then it turned into a big, threatening federal overreach."


Oh brrrrrrrother
2018-03-08 09:11:21 PM  
1 vote:

Sean VasDeferens: She was hired to clean up a property, instead she stole a property fixture.  Theft is theft, just arrest her.


She was told to get rid of the sign and kept it. Maybe because it looked cool, maybe because it would cost her money to take it to the dump and she'd rather take it home and break it into pieces that could be scrapped.

Sure, it would be *nice* to give it back when the govt realized their mistake... But as that moon rocks bag lawsuit showed, the govt can't give/sell you something and then just take it back when they realize they farked up.
2018-03-08 08:00:23 PM  
1 vote:

SwiftFox: I'm NAL but I thought the government was estopped from penalizing you for doing what it ordered.


If you read TFA, the government's attorneys is claiming the Deputy US Marshall that ordered the disposal of the sign had no legal authority to do so.

. . .if the Judge rules he did, then she owns the sign and the Federal case falls apart.
2018-03-08 05:40:15 PM  
1 vote:
I'm thinking that the palm tree is a bit of a "landmark" and, without it, the motel might be a hard sell. While the motel has a troubling history, it's not too late to make it into a better establishment, contributing to the community and the street's endearment.

That being said, that lady can kiss future federal contracts goodbye.
2018-03-08 05:29:20 PM  
1 vote:

DarkVader: Azlefty: RedT: "the federal government ... claimed the property last year when its owner was sentenced to prison for selling a bag of meth."

Am I the only one who has a problem with this?

Well he should not have sold the  meth at the  hotel he owned, by doing so he showed that the property was part of his drug operation making it a "ill-gotten gain."  This is way different than ol Deputy Billy Bob Seizing Grandmas 10K during a traffic stop cause people smuggle drugs on this here highway.  This is how RICO  was intended to work

It's exactly the same thing as stealing grandma's $10k during a traffic stop - legalized theft.


No, in this case, it's not.
2018-03-08 04:37:49 PM  
1 vote:

RedT: "the federal government ... claimed the property last year when its owner was sentenced to prison for selling a bag of meth."

Am I the only one who has a problem with this?


Yeah,  the Fed is now stuck with an old rundown building that's best renovated with a flamethrower and a bulldozer.
2018-03-08 04:24:52 PM  
1 vote:

Billy Bathsalt: So if you sell a bag of meth they can take your neon palm tree?  I thought this was America!


Asset forfeiture.

They just had to show that the motel was part of the criminal enterprise of selling drugs, like if the owner actually conducted the sale on the premises or they could show the owner was using the proceeds from the drug sales to pay the operating costs of the motel.

It's a shiatty deal, and the Feds way overuse it, but courts have upheld it for decades.
2018-03-08 04:23:25 PM  
1 vote:
According to another article, the govt. was/is hoping to auction off the property and the neon palm tree.

https://www.adn.com/alaska-news/ancho​r​age/2017/11/23/spenards-paradise-inn-a​nd-its-famous-sign-headed-for-auction/​

Having watched a lot of government auctions, I know it's a toss-up if the thing would ever sell at all. The bigger, dirtier, and less convenient it is to move, the fewer people are willing to bid on it. And half the time the guy who wins the bid never shows up with a trailer big enough to move it.
2018-03-08 04:04:58 PM  
1 vote:

ChipNASA: slackananda: Free picture:

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I don't get that. It doesn't look very tropical to me.
/bbbuurrrrrrrrrrrrr


It actually must have been fairly warm when that picture was taken.  Certainly over 25°F.

No frost on the power lines...
2018-03-08 04:02:11 PM  
1 vote:
It's worth more than $350, big time.

My reply would be:

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2018-03-08 03:58:12 PM  
1 vote:

phalamir: You are aware, Subby, that the federal government has more than 3 employees, right?


For now...
 
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