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2018-03-08 10:47:51 AM  
FTA: "But Anatoly Antonov says he has been disappointed to find a cold reception on Capitol Hill, where he's had a hard time obtaining meetings. Some lawmakers' offices have even asked him not to publicize the sessions."

Also FTA:"Antonov did tell POLITICO he has received "quite a warm and friendly welcome" at the White House and State Department, though he did not offer details of those meetings,"

Hmm, White House (don't need to link that) and the State Department are the only place with friendly receptions? What a surprise.
 
2018-03-08 11:36:56 AM  
Fine, let's talk about Crimea and Ukraine and those nukes in Kaliningrad.
 
2018-03-08 11:59:50 AM  
So you might say...

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...no one is Russian to see him.
 
2018-03-08 01:18:02 PM  
Let's list the things that the US might be willing to talk to the Russian Ambassador about:

Crimea
Ukraine
Deaths of political adversaries of Putin
Their continued propaganda efforts around the world

The ambassador wants a friendly reception?  Tell your boss to stop pissing on everyone else.
 
2018-03-08 01:21:12 PM  

SpaceyCat: The ambassador wants a friendly reception?  Tell your boss to stop pissing on everyone else.


That's really more of a Trump thing anyway.
 
2018-03-08 01:26:44 PM  

Diogenes: That's really more of a Trump thing anyway.


I didn't put the disclaimer in about Trump.  Sorry.
 
2018-03-08 01:40:45 PM  
It's hard to finish when you're being stared at.
 
2018-03-08 01:43:06 PM  
I'm sure he could attend the fundraiser for Rohrabacher that Eric Prince is hosting.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefin​g​-room/news/377364-erik-prince-to-host-​fundraiser-for-pro-russia-lawmaker-ami​d
 
2018-03-08 01:43:45 PM  
He's missing all the free booze.
 
2018-03-08 01:47:00 PM  

Diogenes: So you might say...

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...no one is Russian to see him.

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2018-03-08 01:47:57 PM  
Good, if not for entirely the right reason

"After what happened to Jeff Sessions, no member wants to be in the press for meeting with the Russian ambassador," said a congressional aide

We need to treat them like representatives of a hostile nation. No private or closed-door meetings, all meetings treated like negotiations, with full committees / bipartisan groups present. Ideally even FBI observers. No more opportunities for your bullshiat.
 
2018-03-08 01:49:29 PM  

SpaceyCat: Let's list the things that the US might be willing to talk to the Russian Ambassador about:

Crimea
Ukraine
Deaths of political adversaries of Putin
Their continued propaganda efforts around the world

The ambassador wants a friendly reception?  Tell your boss to stop pissing on everyone else.


In fairness... the only thing that makes Russia's invasion of Ukraine worst than America's invasion or Iraq is that they actually annexed territory. We were at least nice enough to only want to place a puppet government in place that would allow us to use its territory as a staging ground so we could put a puppet government in Iran.
 
2018-03-08 01:50:32 PM  
"All I hear is 'meddling, interference,'" complained Antonov, drink in hand and eyebrows raised. "I don't know these words. I want to talk about friendship, cooperation."

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2018-03-08 01:50:53 PM  
Get one Dem and one Rep to meet with the guy at the same time.
 
2018-03-08 01:59:03 PM  
FrownyCatGood.jpg
 
2018-03-08 02:01:04 PM  
'After what happened to Jeff Sessions, no member wants to be in the press for lying about meeting with the Russian ambassador.'

Russian man speak with forked tongue
 
2018-03-08 02:02:09 PM  
Lol people aren't going to the garden hose when they are used to going straight to the well. If you're already dealing directly with Putin, this guy is of no value.
 
2018-03-08 02:04:36 PM  
This guy is the sly, passive aggressive "fixer", filled with the Soviet Koolaid. I'd stay the hell away from him myself, and be cautious if I couldn't. What possible point or benefit would there be not to?

danielem1: FTA: "But Anatoly Antonov says he has been disappointed to find a cold reception on Capitol Hill, where he's had a hard time obtaining meetings. Some lawmakers' offices have even asked him not to publicize the sessions."

Also FTA:"Antonov did tell POLITICO he has received "quite a warm and friendly welcome" at the White House and State Department, though he did not offer details of those meetings,"

Hmm, White House (don't need to link that) and the State Department are the only place with friendly receptions? What a surprise.


It is as though sarcasm exploded like a super-nova across the post. It is grotesquely hilarious and disturbingly obvious at the same time...
 
2018-03-08 02:04:41 PM  
But Anatoly Antonov says he has been disappointed to find a cold reception on Capitol Hill, where he's had a hard time obtaining meetings

Yea, that'll happen when your country has decided that it's sole purpose is to assassinate people and undermine the geopolitical security of the entire world.

Why we still have any serious relationship with Russia at this point is beyond me. They ought to be on a the list of terror sponsors and under heavy sanc... oh... right.
 
2018-03-08 02:06:44 PM  

danielem1: mm, White House (don't need to link that)


There's a White House in the middle of Russia -- there's a White House in Red Square.
 
2018-03-08 02:10:11 PM  
to be fair to subby...Muller seems like he would be very judgemental while I came under his scrutiny...

/nohomo
 
2018-03-08 02:10:50 PM  
Sadly, the reason lawmakers are avoiding the Russians is merely about self-preservation, not any real disgust with Russian policies.
 
2018-03-08 02:18:23 PM  

Diogenes: So you might say...

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...no one is Russian to see him.


Crimea river.
 
2018-03-08 02:21:54 PM  
"The Congress, overwhelmed by Russophobia, is led by politically biased emotions, rather than a clear-thinking mind is really pissed that we meddled in their elections and manipulated the public so that a completely worthless shiatheel would get elected. I totally understand that,"

FTFY, dudeski.
 
2018-03-08 02:21:55 PM  

ihaveaGED: "All I hear is 'meddling, interference,'" complained Antonov, drink in hand and eyebrows raised. "I don't know these words. I want to talk about friendship, cooperation."

[img.fark.net image 500x284]


Po-tay-to po-tah-to.
 
2018-03-08 02:24:19 PM  

red230: I'm sure he could attend the fundraiser for Rohrabacher that Eric Prince is hosting.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing​-room/news/377364-erik-prince-to-host-​fundraiser-for-pro-russia-lawmaker-ami​d


Wait wait wait...what is Rohrabacher raising funds for? I was under the impression that he was to retire soon, or not seek re-election.
 
2018-03-08 02:26:27 PM  
....is there any major western country that is willing to openly talk to Russia right now?

For all the faults of America, the fact Nixon could be pressured to resign, speaks worlds.

I mean no one wants to talk to him because they don't want to die by nerve gas
 
2018-03-08 02:27:58 PM  
Obligatory are we the baddies.jpg
 
2018-03-08 02:27:58 PM  
More like Putinphobia than Russophobia, really. And that's easy enough to fix: all Russia would really have to do is give us some figures to interact with in Russia's leadership and diplomatic corps who aren't Putin-Muppets. Is that really so much to ask?
 
2018-03-08 02:30:52 PM  
Go the f*ck back to Russia, you mobbed-up scumbag.
 
2018-03-08 02:36:43 PM  

Bslim: Go the f*ck back to Russia, you mobbed-up scumbag.


its ok if you have an R next to your name... russia... republican... same dif
 
2018-03-08 02:42:35 PM  
These words I keep hearing, collusion, military adventurism, money laundering, blackmail, extortion, kidnapping, assassination by nerve agents, bot farms, I do not know what they mean, I am here only to talk friendship and cooperation with great country of Russia which would like sanctions dropped if, how you say in America, you know what is good for you, this is how dear friends talk, yes?
 
2018-03-08 02:49:45 PM  
At a recent Russian film screening...

What was the movie? Battleship Potemkin? No wait, I got it: Ivan the Terrible Parts I and II.
 
2018-03-08 02:51:05 PM  

Diogenes: So you might say...

[img.fark.net image 200x140]

...no one is Russian to see him.


Wow. I had just taken a nice mouthful of hot tea when the comments loaded... My cat's now saturated. Thanks.
 
2018-03-08 02:52:33 PM  
Nyet friendship. Nyet friendship! You a friendship!
 
2018-03-08 03:00:29 PM  

gameshowhost: Nyet friendship. Nyet friendship! You a friendship!


You are not considered trustworthy until you have a liter of vodka or two with the guy.
So, whatever happens before that is not a friendship but a business.

/ As usual.
 
2018-03-08 03:05:01 PM  

wkndfrk: red230: I'm sure he could attend the fundraiser for Rohrabacher that Eric Prince is hosting.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing​-room/news/377364-erik-prince-to-host-​fundraiser-for-pro-russia-lawmaker-ami​d

Wait wait wait...what is Rohrabacher raising funds for? I was under the impression that he was to retire soon, or not seek re-election.


No, he hasn't yet joined the general GOP stampede towards the exits. You might be thinking of Issa, another California GOP troglodyte, who IS quitting.
 
2018-03-08 03:25:37 PM  

Paul Baumer: Lol people aren't going to the garden hose when they are used to going straight to the well. If you're already dealing directly with Putin, this guy is of no value.


I am fairly certain that the Russian ambassador isn't some show piece, that got his position because he contributed to Putins campaign.

If you want something, he's probably better, because he'd actually have the time to have a meeting with you.
 
2018-03-08 03:39:34 PM  

SpaceyCat: Diogenes: That's really more of a Trump thing anyway.

I didn't put the disclaimer in about Trump.  Sorry.


I suspect Antonov has more influence than Trump does over their boss.
 
2018-03-08 03:42:07 PM  

Mikey1969: "The Congress, overwhelmed by Russophobia, is led by politically biased emotions, rather than a clear-thinking mind is really pissed that we meddled in their elections and manipulated the public so that a completely worthless shiatheel would get elected. I totally understand that,"

FTFY, dudeski.


That isn't true. Most of Congress is only pissed that their president is so incompetent that they got caught.
 
2018-03-08 03:51:40 PM  

awruk!: gameshowhost: Nyet friendship. Nyet friendship! You a friendship!

You are not considered trustworthy until you have a liter of vodka or two with the guy.
So, whatever happens before that is not a friendship but a business.

/ As usual.


Damn. It's like every Fark party.
 
2018-03-08 03:54:01 PM  

KodosZardoz: At a recent Russian film screening...

What was the movie? Battleship Potemkin? No wait, I got it: Ivan the Terrible Parts I and II.


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2018-03-08 04:15:24 PM  

links136: ....is there any major western country that is willing to openly talk to Russia right now?

For all the faults of America, the fact Nixon could be pressured to resign, speaks worlds.

I mean no one wants to talk to him because they don't want to die by nerve gas


We forget this now, but you're more right than you think.

Before Nixon's forced resignation, Soviet propaganda was all about how the rule of law in America was a charade. Nixon's expulsion both deflated that publicly AND forced the Soviets' cynical rulers to realize that it wasn't.

/Mere resignation will... not suffice this time
 
2018-03-08 04:19:02 PM  

dywed88: Mikey1969: "The Congress, overwhelmed by Russophobia, is led by politically biased emotions, rather than a clear-thinking mind is really pissed that we meddled in their elections and manipulated the public so that a completely worthless shiatheel would get elected. I totally understand that,"

FTFY, dudeski.

That isn't true. Most of Congress is only pissed that their president is so incompetent that they got caught.


Nah, I think a lot of them are freaked out  too, but unfortunately they chose party over country, so they are stuck sucking that elephant dick, even though it tastes like crap. .
 
2018-03-08 04:30:39 PM  

erik-k: links136: ....is there any major western country that is willing to openly talk to Russia right now?

For all the faults of America, the fact Nixon could be pressured to resign, speaks worlds.

I mean no one wants to talk to him because they don't want to die by nerve gas

We forget this now, but you're more right than you think.

Before Nixon's forced resignation, Soviet propaganda was all about how the rule of law in America was a charade. Nixon's expulsion both deflated that publicly AND forced the Soviets' cynical rulers to realize that it wasn't.

/Mere resignation will... not suffice this time


Members of US congress actually tried to pressure Voice of America to not cover Watergate because it would have caused a bad impression of us overseas. I've met some people who grew up in third world countries listening to VOA back then and sometimes to the USSR's competing news station transmitting overseas. No one liked the commie broadcasts because America's station had the human drama of a president seemingly guilty of crimes being subjected to the rule of law and they would find out how it was evolving on the daily news... on the other hand, the Soviets always had happy proletariats opening up new factories and happily working away for glorious revolution. Sooner or later if all the news are good, people get bored and catch on to your propaganda game (except Fox viewers... somehow they believe everything is well in the Trump house and GOP always and forever). They are basically dumber than illiterate third world peasants from the 1970s.
 
2018-03-08 04:39:34 PM  

kbronsito: erik-k: links136: ....is there any major western country that is willing to openly talk to Russia right now?

For all the faults of America, the fact Nixon could be pressured to resign, speaks worlds.

I mean no one wants to talk to him because they don't want to die by nerve gas

We forget this now, but you're more right than you think.

Before Nixon's forced resignation, Soviet propaganda was all about how the rule of law in America was a charade. Nixon's expulsion both deflated that publicly AND forced the Soviets' cynical rulers to realize that it wasn't.

/Mere resignation will... not suffice this time

Members of US congress actually tried to pressure Voice of America to not cover Watergate because it would have caused a bad impression of us overseas. I've met some people who grew up in third world countries listening to VOA back then and sometimes to the USSR's competing news station transmitting overseas. No one liked the commie broadcasts because America's station had the human drama of a president seemingly guilty of crimes being subjected to the rule of law and they would find out how it was evolving on the daily news... on the other hand, the Soviets always had happy proletariats opening up new factories and happily working away for glorious revolution. Sooner or later if all the news are good, people get bored and catch on to your propaganda game (except Fox viewers... somehow they believe everything is well in the Trump house and GOP always and forever). They are basically dumber than illiterate third world peasants from the 1970s.


That's harsh.  Fair and accurate, though.
 
2018-03-08 04:44:12 PM  

danielem1: KodosZardoz: At a recent Russian film screening...

What was the movie? Battleship Potemkin? No wait, I got it: Ivan the Terrible Parts I and II.

[img.fark.net image 315x445]


Ahhh, of course.
 
2018-03-08 04:46:53 PM  
Excuse me, but why would the ambassador want to meet with our representatives? The President handles the diplomacy stuff, not Congress, and he seems like he would be far friendlier to you.
 
2018-03-08 04:53:10 PM  
Politifact:  "Well, what Sessions says is about 90% correct, but we don't want to say that, so we'll just keep saying he's completely wrong, because we're not really interested in the objective truth, more like facts we can use, and if those facts are only 10% of the truth, we'll happily take that 10% and ignore the other 90%"

Politifact is a misnomer, "Progressive Bambolear Squirelly Turd Byproduct" might be a better name.
 
2018-03-08 05:03:04 PM  

LordBeavis: kbronsito: erik-k: links136: ....is there any major western country that is willing to openly talk to Russia right now?

For all the faults of America, the fact Nixon could be pressured to resign, speaks worlds.

I mean no one wants to talk to him because they don't want to die by nerve gas

We forget this now, but you're more right than you think.

Before Nixon's forced resignation, Soviet propaganda was all about how the rule of law in America was a charade. Nixon's expulsion both deflated that publicly AND forced the Soviets' cynical rulers to realize that it wasn't.

/Mere resignation will... not suffice this time

Members of US congress actually tried to pressure Voice of America to not cover Watergate because it would have caused a bad impression of us overseas. I've met some people who grew up in third world countries listening to VOA back then and sometimes to the USSR's competing news station transmitting overseas. No one liked the commie broadcasts because America's station had the human drama of a president seemingly guilty of crimes being subjected to the rule of law and they would find out how it was evolving on the daily news... on the other hand, the Soviets always had happy proletariats opening up new factories and happily working away for glorious revolution. Sooner or later if all the news are good, people get bored and catch on to your propaganda game (except Fox viewers... somehow they believe everything is well in the Trump house and GOP always and forever). They are basically dumber than illiterate third world peasants from the 1970s.

That's harsh.  Fair and accurate balanced, though.

FTFY

 
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