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(Politifact)   Okay: let's fact check AG Sessions claim that California law prohibits law enforcement from cooperating with ICE: hey, only mostly toasty pants   ( politifact.com) divider line
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2018-03-08 10:37:24 AM  
Oh, I'm sorry, was xenophobic propaganda supposed to be true? No, it's not. And it's racist for you to think that. You're the real racist. You're racist against xenophobic propaganda.
 
2018-03-08 10:54:52 AM  
California is cooperating more with federal immigration authorities than Sessions is cooperating with "not lying to Congress a few times"

So that's nice I suppose
 
2018-03-08 11:27:11 AM  
Those flaming pants are unsafe in your cracker-tree.
 
2018-03-08 12:11:19 PM  
Abolish ICE
 
2018-03-08 01:39:19 PM  
"Mostly False" is a lot more true than I'd expect from this Administration, so kudos to you, Jeff Sessions!
 
2018-03-08 01:46:43 PM  
Lol. Watched Gov. Brown with Calif. AG on CNN yesterday...

"We know the Trump administration is full of liars. They've pled guilty already to the special counsel", Mr Brown told reporters.
"The Trump White House is under siege. Mueller is closing in. There are more indictments coming", he added.


So basically CA doesn't give a rats ass about Sessions and Trump. Haha and Bravo!
 
2018-03-08 02:52:40 PM  
Immigration is racist.  Open borders now!
 
2018-03-08 02:53:26 PM  
Jefferson Beauregard Sessions lying?

Get me to my fainting couch!
 
2018-03-08 02:53:44 PM  

God_Almighty_Himself: Immigration is racist.  Open borders now!


What does god need with immigration?
 
2018-03-08 02:54:43 PM  
Sessions is an individual who has argued in the past, that it is acceptable for Police Officers to "manufacture" laws on their own initiative in order to make an arrest, if the Officer determines that it is probable that such laws would be already on the books if someone had thought of them and submitted them in a State Legislature.

Sessions would be easily disbarred for a number of reasons, not the least of which is Misprison of Felony.
 
2018-03-08 02:55:37 PM  
The AG of the United States is lying his ass off about an important law enforcement matter. This is fine.
 
2018-03-08 02:55:48 PM  
President Trump must feel so ripped off by Crooked Jeff Sessions.

A hearty HaHa to all involved.
 
2018-03-08 02:55:50 PM  

Dusk-You-n-Me: Abolish ICE


This is stupider every time you say it.
 
2018-03-08 02:56:40 PM  
Jeff Sessions is a strong supporter of a state's right to segregate.
 
2018-03-08 02:57:06 PM  
Liberal elites Politifact is just biased because without all those illegals, Hillary wouldn't be President.

/Fake news fake news she won! Get over it!
//Overdose of sarcasm today
 
2018-03-08 02:58:23 PM  

Smackledorfer: This is stupider every time you say it.


Then I've got some bad news buddy.
 
2018-03-08 02:58:51 PM  
Do blue lives matter in this case?
 
2018-03-08 03:00:05 PM  
The bigger lie the racist elf is spreading is this idea that there are people pushing a radical agenda of open borders. It's infuriating to watch the press not call him out and ask "who thee fark wants open borders?". It's on par with pro life arseholes that claim pro choice people want to kill all the babies.
 
2018-03-08 03:00:19 PM  

God_Almighty_Himself: Immigration is racist.  Open borders now!


Now that Facebook, Twitter, and Reddit have purged so many of their Russian accounts, it's slim pickings these days for a troll farmer.  You're forced to slum it in the dregs with us.

You seem like an ambitious young man, so I'll save you some time.  Farkers don't have any friends.  They don't post stuff to Facebook, they don't like Twitter, and they make fun of Reddit.  Nobody is going to forward this thread until it goes viral.  You're wasting your time here.
 
2018-03-08 03:01:28 PM  

Smackledorfer: Dusk-You-n-Me: Abolish ICE

This is stupider every time you say it.


Why? The PATRIOT Act and the HSA has been nothing but the definition of knee-jerk. It was created to deal with terroristsnot people busting their asses trying to make a living, "Illegal" or otherwise.

Can every single bit of it.
 
2018-03-08 03:04:12 PM  

Rapmaster2000: God_Almighty_Himself: Immigration is racist.  Open borders now!

Now that Facebook, Twitter, and Reddit have purged so many of their Russian accounts, it's slim pickings these days for a troll farmer.  You're forced to slum it in the dregs with us.

You seem like an ambitious young man, so I'll save you some time.  Farkers don't have any friends.  They don't post stuff to Facebook, they don't like Twitter, and they make fun of Reddit.  Nobody is going to forward this thread until it goes viral.  You're wasting your time here.


Save /Я/the_Donald !!!
 
2018-03-08 03:08:08 PM  

Eddie Adams from Torrance: Jefferson Beauregard Sessions lying?

Get me to my fainting couch!


I say, I said I say, it is Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III, thank you very kindly.
 
2018-03-08 03:08:45 PM  
Why Jeff Sessions not being completely honest. Glory be, fetch me Lindsay Graham's fainting couch.
 
2018-03-08 03:09:55 PM  
Has anyone else noticed a distinct lack of the usual Trumpster trolls around here in the past 2 weeks?

Did things finally get so nuts that they can't defend Trump and his administration anymore?

There is a point where the lies needed to maintain a fantasy world become too much for even the truly faithful to believe.
 
2018-03-08 03:10:44 PM  

Jack Sabbath: Eddie Adams from Torrance: Jefferson Beauregard Sessions lying?

Get me to my fainting couch!

I say, I said I say, it is Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III, thank you very kindly.


Oh lawdy... there's three of them?

The vapors!
 
2018-03-08 03:10:57 PM  

sdd2000: Why Jeff Sessions not being completely honest. Glory be, fetch me Lindsay Graham's fainting couch.


What's your beef with Lindsey Graham?
 
2018-03-08 03:11:26 PM  

Jack Sabbath: Eddie Adams from Torrance: Jefferson Beauregard Sessions lying?

Get me to my fainting couch!

I say, I said I say, it is Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III, thank you very kindly.


So he's a sequel? No wonder he sucks. The third one always sucks.
 
2018-03-08 03:12:36 PM  
What is it with so many Republicans only being capable of thinking in absolutes? For Sessions, it's either "lock up every immigrant in the state" or "liberals want open borders."

There's a bit more nuance to it than than, Mr. Sessions, but that's of no concern to you when there are scary brown people about, is it?
 
2018-03-08 03:14:06 PM  

realmolo: Has anyone else noticed a distinct lack of the usual Trumpster trolls around here in the past 2 weeks?

Did things finally get so nuts that they can't defend Trump and his administration anymore?

There is a point where the lies needed to maintain a fantasy world become too much for even the truly faithful to believe.


I like to think I frightened them off with posts about HardBass, sqatting Gopniks and unflattering pictures of their President.

But that's just ego.  I'm sure it's a coincidence.

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2018-03-08 03:14:39 PM  

Dusk-You-n-Me: Smackledorfer: This is stupider every time you say it.

Then I've got some bad news buddy.


So how does abolishing ICE work? What changes and is accomplished?

You've previously admitted you still want immigration laws enforced. You know, because I've told you, that the agents in ICE are the same ones, turnover notwithstanding, as the INS they used to be.
 
2018-03-08 03:15:20 PM  
I wonder how many more jails would cooperate if they got federal funds to hold people?

Down where I live it was costing them millions a year to hold people that ICE would interview and then not deport. The city got sick of the game, and decided that they could use that money anywhere else and started refusing ICE detainers.
 
2018-03-08 03:15:54 PM  

Smackledorfer: So how does abolishing ICE work? What changes and is accomplished?


Step one: abolish ICE.
End of steps

Smackledorfer:
You've previously admitted you still want immigration laws enforced. You know, because I've told you, that the agents in ICE are the same ones, turnover notwithstanding, as the INS they used to be.


I don't recall this, but okay.
 
2018-03-08 03:18:44 PM  

Sneakernets: Jack Sabbath: Eddie Adams from Torrance: Jefferson Beauregard Sessions lying?

Get me to my fainting couch!

I say, I said I say, it is Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III, thank you very kindly.

So he's a sequel? No wonder he sucks. The third one always sucks.


Last Crusade.
Return of the Jedi.

Sorry, decent attempt at the joke, but I had to counter because the premise just didn't hold.
 
2018-03-08 03:18:51 PM  

Sneakernets: Smackledorfer: Dusk-You-n-Me: Abolish ICE

This is stupider every time you say it.

Why? The PATRIOT Act and the HSA has been nothing but the definition of knee-jerk. It was created to deal with terrorists, not people busting their asses trying to make a living, "Illegal" or otherwise.

Can every single bit of it.


ICE's creation was nothing but a name change and a shifting of umbrella agency to aid interagency information sharing.

Everything ICE does was done before it existed, and will continue to be done if you change it to a different name and organization. By the same employees too.
 
2018-03-08 03:19:06 PM  

realmolo: Has anyone else noticed a distinct lack of the usual Trumpster trolls around here in the past 2 weeks?

Did things finally get so nuts that they can't defend Trump and his administration anymore?

There is a point where the lies needed to maintain a fantasy world become too much for even the truly faithful to believe.


IDK.  I did notice that just in the last few days, our local Trumper has finally taken down his Trump flag for the first time in two years.
 
2018-03-08 03:19:55 PM  
I swear to God an evil witch cursed him so that if he ever speaks the truth, he is transported to a world of eternal torment. It's the only plausible explanation.

Well, either that or he's just a worthless little sack of filth. I'll get back to you.
 
2018-03-08 03:20:13 PM  

Smackledorfer: Dusk-You-n-Me: Smackledorfer: This is stupider every time you say it.

Then I've got some bad news buddy.

So how does abolishing ICE work? What changes and is accomplished?

You've previously admitted you still want immigration laws enforced. You know, because I've told you, that the agents in ICE are the same ones, turnover notwithstanding, as the INS they used to be.


Germany has police despite having gotten rid of the SS. I think it's possible to enforce immigration laws without ICE in its current form.
 
2018-03-08 03:21:38 PM  

Rapmaster2000: Jeff Sessions is a strong supporter of a state's right to segregate.


He's making segregation a game the family can play, as it happens.  ICE has been separating kids from their parents when they ask for asylum.

The ACLU says that Ms. L's separation is one of many such forced splits. "According to advocates, there have been hundreds of separations nationwide," says Lee Gelernt, deputy director of the ACLU's Immigrants' Rights Project. "Based on reports, the administration apparently believes that separating young kids from their parents will deter future asylum applicants."
Numerous reports have surfaced in recent months of ICE separating families, both asylum-seeking and undocumente​d arrivals, and placing parents and children detention facilities hundreds or thousands of miles apart from one another.


http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/n​e​ws/immigration/sd-me-aclu-ice-20180226​-story.html

Though, some good news - though they couldn't help being dicks about it - they have at least released the mother (though not her obviously dangerous six year old daughter) in the article above.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/m​o​rning-mix/wp/2018/03/07/ice-releases-m​other-it-detained-four-months-far-away​-from-7-year-old-daughter/?utm_term=.8​99445eeb742

So I think I can get behind the 'Abolish ICE' sentiment.  I don't think an agency that has personnel enforcing a 'take away people's kids, that'll help deter anyone else from coming here' can really be redeemed.
 
2018-03-08 03:22:28 PM  
The same guy whose answer to the opioid epidemic is telling chronic pain sufferers to take a couple of aspirin and tough it out? That Jeff Sessions?
 
2018-03-08 03:26:57 PM  

Dusk-You-n-Me: Smackledorfer: So how does abolishing ICE work? What changes and is accomplished?

Step one: abolish ICE.
End of steps

Smackledorfer:
You've previously admitted you still want immigration laws enforced. You know, because I've told you, that the agents in ICE are the same ones, turnover notwithstanding, as the INS they used to be.

I don't recall this, but okay.


So you've got so much nothing you won't explain this "abolish ice" concept?

Who would enforce immigration law outside of the border in your post-ICE world?
 
2018-03-08 03:27:07 PM  

ThoughtsofaFool: Sneakernets: Jack Sabbath: Eddie Adams from Torrance: Jefferson Beauregard Sessions lying?

Get me to my fainting couch!

I say, I said I say, it is Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III, thank you very kindly.

So he's a sequel? No wonder he sucks. The third one always sucks.

Last Crusade.
Return of the Jedi.

Sorry, decent attempt at the joke, but I had to counter because the premise just didn't hold.


Also
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2018-03-08 03:28:34 PM  

Rapmaster2000: God_Almighty_Himself: Immigration is racist.  Open borders now!

Now that Facebook, Twitter, and Reddit have purged so many of their Russian accounts, it's slim pickings these days for a troll farmer.  You're forced to slum it in the dregs with us.

You seem like an ambitious young man, so I'll save you some time.  Farkers don't have any friends.  They don't post stuff to Facebook, they don't like Twitter, and they make fun of Reddit.  Nobody is going to forward this thread until it goes viral.  You're wasting your time here.


Fark your feelings.
 
2018-03-08 03:32:16 PM  
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2018-03-08 03:35:46 PM  

Rapmaster2000: Farkers don't have any friends.

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2018-03-08 03:35:47 PM  

sammyk: The bigger lie the racist elf is spreading is this idea that there are people pushing a radical agenda of open borders. It's infuriating to watch the press not call him out and ask "who thee fark wants open borders?". It's on par with pro life arseholes that claim pro choice people want to kill all the babies.


I do.

Not as an immediate policy but as a long-term goal.

I would like to know more about what is wrong with the idea. The nation-state is merely a necessary evil, not a moral imperative.
 
2018-03-08 03:36:03 PM  

God_Almighty_Himself: Rapmaster2000: God_Almighty_Himself: Immigration is racist.  Open borders now!

Now that Facebook, Twitter, and Reddit have purged so many of their Russian accounts, it's slim pickings these days for a troll farmer.  You're forced to slum it in the dregs with us.

You seem like an ambitious young man, so I'll save you some time.  Farkers don't have any friends.  They don't post stuff to Facebook, they don't like Twitter, and they make fun of Reddit.  Nobody is going to forward this thread until it goes viral.  You're wasting your time here.

Fark your feelings.


I don't have any feelings.  I'm on Fark.
 
2018-03-08 03:37:22 PM  

SirBarsalot: realmolo: Has anyone else noticed a distinct lack of the usual Trumpster trolls around here in the past 2 weeks?

Did things finally get so nuts that they can't defend Trump and his administration anymore?

There is a point where the lies needed to maintain a fantasy world become too much for even the truly faithful to believe.

IDK.  I did notice that just in the last few days, our local Trumper has finally taken down his Trump flag for the first time in two years.


Yeah, even fernt gave up.
 
2018-03-08 03:37:43 PM  

King Something: Smackledorfer: Dusk-You-n-Me: Smackledorfer: This is stupider every time you say it.

Then I've got some bad news buddy.

So how does abolishing ICE work? What changes and is accomplished?

You've previously admitted you still want immigration laws enforced. You know, because I've told you, that the agents in ICE are the same ones, turnover notwithstanding, as the INS they used to be.

Germany has police despite having gotten rid of the SS. I think it's possible to enforce immigration laws without ICE in its current form.


I'll wait for to explain how the new agency would be different then.

Would current ICE agents be fired and reapply for the new job? Be banned from applying for the new agency positions? Be transferred over without being laid off?

What would this new agency, let's call it the New Immigration and Customs Enforcement, do differently? Would they perform jail checks? Would they follow up on reports of immigration violations and enforce them? Deport those out of status?


Seems to me a much simpler idea would be voting in different legislature and president, and then simply adjust the ICE policies to our liking.

Saying abolish ice is naive and ignorant if you cannot explain what happens next. It is a disingenuous stance, deliberately vague and empty so one can pretend they have an opinion without it being attacked.

Fwiw if you simply don't want immigration laws (all or some) enforced I get that. But then just say that "we shouldn't engage in removal or deportation proceedings against non-criminal immigrants who are illegally present" or something along those lines.
 
2018-03-08 03:45:30 PM  

fiddlehead: ThoughtsofaFool: Sneakernets: Jack Sabbath: Eddie Adams from Torrance: Jefferson Beauregard Sessions lying?

Get me to my fainting couch!

I say, I said I say, it is Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III, thank you very kindly.

So he's a sequel? No wonder he sucks. The third one always sucks.

Last Crusade.
Return of the Jedi.

Sorry, decent attempt at the joke, but I had to counter because the premise just didn't hold.

Also
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2018-03-08 03:46:34 PM  
So basically California is saying that the feds need warrants to gain control over people detained by California for state crimes.

Seems reasonable.  Why isn't that the norm across all states?
 
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