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2018-03-08 12:25:38 AM  
Whatever the truth of what's happening there, you can be sure Todd has his facts completely f*cked up.
 
2018-03-08 12:34:07 AM  
Florida oh Florida. A few weeks ago you made giving homeless people food in a park. Life is very short but your stay in Hell will last an eternity, perhaps.
 
2018-03-08 12:47:52 AM  
Todd Starnes?

*closes article and stops reading*
 
2018-03-08 12:52:45 AM  
I couldn't find this in any other legitimate news source.

I didn't bother looking for court records as it is midnight
 
2018-03-08 01:01:34 AM  
Todd Starnes.

This article is dildos.
 
2018-03-08 01:42:41 AM  
so an HOA did something GOOD for a change!?  wow!
 
2018-03-08 01:47:25 AM  
Well, banning Bible studies is clearly a bad idea, but I could get behind banning Christian music, at least most of it that was composed/written after the 19th century.

/ why does modern "Christian" music suck so badly compared to pretty much anything from the 15th -mid19th century?
 
2018-03-08 01:47:46 AM  
Note to self: "Bible study" is a great cover for illegal card games.
 
2018-03-08 01:47:49 AM  
Refreshing.
 
2018-03-08 01:48:34 AM  

Forbidden Doughnut: Well, banning Bible studies is clearly a bad idea, but I could get behind banning Christian music, at least most of it that was composed/written after the 19th century.

/ why does modern "Christian" music suck so badly compared to pretty much anything from the 15th -mid19th century?


Bach.
Stryper.
Discuss.
 
2018-03-08 01:52:57 AM  

Forbidden Doughnut: Well, banning Bible studies is clearly a bad idea, but I could get behind banning Christian music, at least most of it that was composed/written after the 19th century.

/ why does modern "Christian" music suck so badly compared to pretty much anything from the 15th -mid19th century?


Because it's a bunch of people who think rock and roll is cool, but don't want to sing about sex or drugs. It's a mockery of the style without any of the emotional weight behind it.

Anyway, if you're being obnoxiously Christian in a building full of Jewish people or something, expect the HOA to tell you to STFU.
 
2018-03-08 01:53:57 AM  

swaniefrmreddeer: Whatever the truth of what's happening there, you can be sure Todd has his facts completely f*cked up.


I knew from the headline this had to be Fox's resident Christian persecution concern troll.
 
2018-03-08 01:57:06 AM  

Weaver95: so an HOA did something GOOD for a change!?  wow!


Zigactly. And this is how we know the story is dildos...
 
2018-03-08 02:02:03 AM  

Forbidden Doughnut: Well, banning Bible studies is clearly a bad idea, but I could get behind banning Christian music, at least most of it that was composed/written after the 19th century.

/ why does modern "Christian" music suck so badly compared to pretty much anything from the 15th -mid19th century?


You might like this old paean to Amy Grant.  And her pants.

https://youtu.be/qbVtwRrX1hE
 
2018-03-08 02:08:17 AM  

dv-ous: Forbidden Doughnut: Well, banning Bible studies is clearly a bad idea, but I could get behind banning Christian music, at least most of it that was composed/written after the 19th century.

/ why does modern "Christian" music suck so badly compared to pretty much anything from the 15th -mid19th century?

Because it's a bunch of people who think rock and roll is cool, but don't want to sing about sex or drugs. It's a mockery of the style without any of the emotional weight behind it.

Anyway, if you're being obnoxiously Christian in a building full of Jewish people or something, expect the HOA to tell you to STFU.


Man I love armchair morons:

Similarly, when condominiums or apartments have a common room that can be reserved by residents for private activities like parties or book studies, residents seeking to hold a Bible study or other private religious activity may not be discriminated against.

This isn't even from a partisan site or newspaper. This is the Department of Justice.
 
2018-03-08 02:37:06 AM  

Forbidden Doughnut: Well, banning Bible studies is clearly a bad idea, but I could get behind banning Christian music, at least most of it that was composed/written after the 19th century.

/ why does modern "Christian" music suck so badly compared to pretty much anything from the 15th -mid19th century?


I'm not a Christian at all but there are some really good gospel songs out there if you look for them. There's quite a few that I love listening to.
 
2018-03-08 02:50:10 AM  
I find nothing wrong with this.
 
2018-03-08 03:04:46 AM  
Todd Starnes: ...

Well now I even doubt the existence of condominiums and HOAs.
 
2018-03-08 03:16:50 AM  
It sounds like this lady was essentially trying to make their common area into her own private church.
 
2018-03-08 03:25:32 AM  

Bathia_Mapes: Todd Starnes?

*closes article and stops reading*


You clicked? What a fool! That's why you first hover over the url for headlines like this with a Fox News logo.
 
2018-03-08 04:15:03 AM  

JuggleGeek: It sounds like this lady was essentially trying to make their common area into her own private church.


Probably the real story is a safety concern.  Fire Marshall says the common room is rated for 15 and Bible study group is 25.  The part about religious decor being stripped probably is the mandatory takedown of Christmas lights before Ash Wednesday.  IOW, complete BS article.
 
2018-03-08 04:22:57 AM  

Forbidden Doughnut: Well, banning Bible studies is clearly a bad idea, but I could get behind banning Christian music, at least most of it that was composed/written after the 19th century.

/ why does modern "Christian" music suck so badly compared to pretty much anything from the 15th -mid19th century?


"Can't you see you're not making Christianity any better? You're just making rock n' roll worse." - Hank Hill
 
2018-03-08 05:38:24 AM  
I knew it was Todd Starnes related and I still clicked.  What the hell is wrong with me?
 
2018-03-08 06:00:14 AM  

redmid17: dv-ous: Forbidden Doughnut: Well, banning Bible studies is clearly a bad idea, but I could get behind banning Christian music, at least most of it that was composed/written after the 19th century.

/ why does modern "Christian" music suck so badly compared to pretty much anything from the 15th -mid19th century?

Because it's a bunch of people who think rock and roll is cool, but don't want to sing about sex or drugs. It's a mockery of the style without any of the emotional weight behind it.

Anyway, if you're being obnoxiously Christian in a building full of Jewish people or something, expect the HOA to tell you to STFU.

Man I love armchair morons:

Similarly, when condominiums or apartments have a common room that can be reserved by residents for private activities like parties or book studies, residents seeking to hold a Bible study or other private religious activity may not be discriminated against.

This isn't even from a partisan site or newspaper. This is the Department of Justice.


Meh, I suspect that the woman giving 4,000 hours a year in soup kitchen charity doesn't have a 'small' bible study group. The Inclusion of the ban on music suggests to me that a large number of holy rollers were having multiple events per day , with music, in a place that seems to be an assisted-living home for old folks.

This isn't about faith. it's about noise and quiet enjoyment. If she wants to open a church on land she owns (or leases) that's fine.  You don't get to buy a studio apartment and run a church out of the common areas. Maybe her group needs to hold 'bible study' at the soup kitchen?
 
2018-03-08 06:55:39 AM  

JuggleGeek: It sounds like this lady was essentially trying to make their common area into her own private church.


I don't think that is what was going on. It says in the article that the room was used by various groups at different times. If it is a private room and they don't stick posters, on the walls, they should have every right to use it for bible studies. As far as the music is concerned, they should all sing Amazing Grace every time they go in there.
 
2018-03-08 07:07:12 AM  

rubi_con_man: redmid17: dv-ous: Forbidden Doughnut: Well, banning Bible studies is clearly a bad idea, but I could get behind banning Christian music, at least most of it that was composed/written after the 19th century.

/ why does modern "Christian" music suck so badly compared to pretty much anything from the 15th -mid19th century?

Because it's a bunch of people who think rock and roll is cool, but don't want to sing about sex or drugs. It's a mockery of the style without any of the emotional weight behind it.

Anyway, if you're being obnoxiously Christian in a building full of Jewish people or something, expect the HOA to tell you to STFU.

Man I love armchair morons:

Similarly, when condominiums or apartments have a common room that can be reserved by residents for private activities like parties or book studies, residents seeking to hold a Bible study or other private religious activity may not be discriminated against.

This isn't even from a partisan site or newspaper. This is the Department of Justice.

Meh, I suspect that the woman giving 4,000 hours a year in soup kitchen charity doesn't have a 'small' bible study group. The Inclusion of the ban on music suggests to me that a large number of holy rollers were having multiple events per day , with music, in a place that seems to be an assisted-living home for old folks.

This isn't about faith. it's about noise and quiet enjoyment. If she wants to open a church on land she owns (or leases) that's fine.  You don't get to buy a studio apartment and run a church out of the common areas. Maybe her group needs to hold 'bible study' at the soup kitchen?


There is no doubt in my mind that is exactly what's going on. She has been steadily building her own little ministry and trying to take over the complex. That is what those cultists do
 
2018-03-08 07:11:32 AM  

Forbidden Doughnut: Well, banning Bible studies is clearly a bad idea, but I could get behind banning Christian music, at least most of it that was composed/written after the 19th century.

/ why does modern "Christian" music suck so badly compared to pretty much anything from the 15th -mid19th century?


I'm sure that that time period had plenty of hymns that sucked - 90%+ of everything does.  Those terrible pieces have been forgotten almost completely and the ones that are good get used.  I'm also sure that several hundred years from now 90%+ of contemporary Christian music will disappear those removing the crap from the jewels.
 
2018-03-08 07:34:16 AM  

Forbidden Doughnut: Well, banning Bible studies is clearly a bad idea, but I could get behind banning Christian music, at least most of it that was composed/written after the 19th century.

/ why does modern "Christian" music suck so badly compared to pretty much anything from the 15th -mid19th century?


All music sucks compared to the music from that time period.
 
2018-03-08 07:35:28 AM  

dv-ous: Forbidden Doughnut: Well, banning Bible studies is clearly a bad idea, but I could get behind banning Christian music, at least most of it that was composed/written after the 19th century.

/ why does modern "Christian" music suck so badly compared to pretty much anything from the 15th -mid19th century?

Because it's a bunch of people who think rock and roll is cool, but don't want to sing about sex or drugs. It's a mockery of the style without any of the emotional weight behind it.

Anyway, if you're being obnoxiously Christian in a building full of Jewish people or something, expect the HOA to tell you to STFU.


So if people are being obnoxiously Muslim, are you down with banning the use of common areas for their prayers?
 
2018-03-08 07:37:37 AM  

rubi_con_man: redmid17: dv-ous: Forbidden Doughnut: Well, banning Bible studies is clearly a bad idea, but I could get behind banning Christian music, at least most of it that was composed/written after the 19th century.

/ why does modern "Christian" music suck so badly compared to pretty much anything from the 15th -mid19th century?

Because it's a bunch of people who think rock and roll is cool, but don't want to sing about sex or drugs. It's a mockery of the style without any of the emotional weight behind it.

Anyway, if you're being obnoxiously Christian in a building full of Jewish people or something, expect the HOA to tell you to STFU.

Man I love armchair morons:

Similarly, when condominiums or apartments have a common room that can be reserved by residents for private activities like parties or book studies, residents seeking to hold a Bible study or other private religious activity may not be discriminated against.

This isn't even from a partisan site or newspaper. This is the Department of Justice.

Meh, I suspect that the woman giving 4,000 hours a year in soup kitchen charity doesn't have a 'small' bible study group. The Inclusion of the ban on music suggests to me that a large number of holy rollers were having multiple events per day , with music, in a place that seems to be an assisted-living home for old folks.

This isn't about faith. it's about noise and quiet enjoyment. If she wants to open a church on land she owns (or leases) that's fine.  You don't get to buy a studio apartment and run a church out of the common areas. Maybe her group needs to hold 'bible study' at the soup kitchen?


When you buy a condo, you have an ownership interest in all of the common areas.
 
2018-03-08 07:39:37 AM  

gar1013: dv-ous: Forbidden Doughnut: Well, banning Bible studies is clearly a bad idea, but I could get behind banning Christian music, at least most of it that was composed/written after the 19th century.

/ why does modern "Christian" music suck so badly compared to pretty much anything from the 15th -mid19th century?

Because it's a bunch of people who think rock and roll is cool, but don't want to sing about sex or drugs. It's a mockery of the style without any of the emotional weight behind it.

Anyway, if you're being obnoxiously Christian in a building full of Jewish people or something, expect the HOA to tell you to STFU.

So if people are being obnoxiously Muslim, are you down with banning the use of common areas for their prayers?


I found Starnes' fark alias
 
2018-03-08 08:12:56 AM  
Is this more or less scary than Mexican cheese?
 
2018-03-08 08:21:32 AM  
"Todd Starnes"

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2018-03-08 08:27:43 AM  
"The Cambridge House Resolution, both in text and in application, is discriminatory and violates the Fair Housing Act because it prohibits Mrs. Dunbar and other Christian residents from accessing common condominium areas for any religious activity, while allowing other residents to use those same facilities for similar non-secular purposes," attorney Adam Foslid wrote in the complaint.

If you notice, they provide absolutely no evidence or examples of "similar non-secular purposes".
 
2018-03-08 08:47:42 AM  

gar1013: rubi_con_man: redmid17: dv-ous: Forbidden Doughnut: Well, banning Bible studies is clearly a bad idea, but I could get behind banning Christian music, at least most of it that was composed/written after the 19th century.

/ why does modern "Christian" music suck so badly compared to pretty much anything from the 15th -mid19th century?

Because it's a bunch of people who think rock and roll is cool, but don't want to sing about sex or drugs. It's a mockery of the style without any of the emotional weight behind it.

Anyway, if you're being obnoxiously Christian in a building full of Jewish people or something, expect the HOA to tell you to STFU.

Man I love armchair morons:

Similarly, when condominiums or apartments have a common room that can be reserved by residents for private activities like parties or book studies, residents seeking to hold a Bible study or other private religious activity may not be discriminated against.

This isn't even from a partisan site or newspaper. This is the Department of Justice.

Meh, I suspect that the woman giving 4,000 hours a year in soup kitchen charity doesn't have a 'small' bible study group. The Inclusion of the ban on music suggests to me that a large number of holy rollers were having multiple events per day , with music, in a place that seems to be an assisted-living home for old folks.

This isn't about faith. it's about noise and quiet enjoyment. If she wants to open a church on land she owns (or leases) that's fine.  You don't get to buy a studio apartment and run a church out of the common areas. Maybe her group needs to hold 'bible study' at the soup kitchen?

When you buy a condo, you have an ownership interest in all of the common areas.


Yeah, but you don't get to dictate who uses the common areas and what for. If people think you're being obnoxious and a jerk about it, the rest of the condo owners can prevent you from continuing to be a nuisance. (It's probably in some contract Dunbar signed.)

Ten bucks says she'd be A-OK if it was a non-Christian being told to stop holding de facto church services in the common area.
 
2018-03-08 08:52:04 AM  

feckingmorons: I couldn't find this in any other legitimate news source.

I didn't bother looking at all really


https://www.winknews.com/2018/03/07/p​o​rt-charlotte-condo-bans-common-space-r​eligious-gatherings/

/you're welcome
 
2018-03-08 09:22:50 AM  

Forbidden Doughnut: Well, banning Bible studies is clearly a bad idea, but I could get behind banning Christian music, at least most of it that was composed/written after the 19th century.

/ why does modern "Christian" music suck so badly compared to pretty much anything from the 15th -mid19th century?


South Park got it right. Just take any popular love song (or lust song) and replace "Oh Baby" with "Oh Jesus" and you've got a winner. I'd further that, in that I'd like to see some religious spin on classics such as "Hot Stuff."

Sittin' here eatin' my heart out waitin'
Waitin' for JESUS to call
Dialed about a thousand numbers lately
Almost rang the phone off the wall

[Chorus 1]
Lookin' for some hot stuff, Jesus, this evenin'
I need some hot stuff, Jesus, tonight
I want some hot stuff, Jesus, this evenin'
Gotta have some hot stuff
Gotta have some religion tonight (hot stuff)
I need hot stuff
I want some hot stuff
I need hot stuff

etc.
 
2018-03-08 09:22:56 AM  

dv-ous: Forbidden Doughnut: Well, banning Bible studies is clearly a bad idea, but I could get behind banning Christian music, at least most of it that was composed/written after the 19th century.

/ why does modern "Christian" music suck so badly compared to pretty much anything from the 15th -mid19th century?

Because it's a bunch of people who think rock and roll is cool, but don't want to sing about sex or drugs. It's a mockery of the style without any of the emotional weight behind it.

Anyway, if you're being obnoxiously Christian in a building full of Jewish people or something, expect the HOA to tell you to STFU.


What the hell is being "obnoxiously Christian"?
There's being obnoxious or not.

Also, what's to stop anyone and their HOA managing friend from creating a situation where the friend sues the HOA and wins?
 
2018-03-08 09:25:19 AM  

Resident Muslim: What the hell is being "obnoxiously Christian"?


Much like pornography, I can't tell you what it is, but I know it when I see it.

/christian "music" isn't
 
2018-03-08 09:32:57 AM  

dv-ous: Forbidden Doughnut: Well, banning Bible studies is clearly a bad idea, but I could get behind banning Christian music, at least most of it that was composed/written after the 19th century.

/ why does modern "Christian" music suck so badly compared to pretty much anything from the 15th -mid19th century?

Because it's a bunch of people who think rock and roll is cool, but don't want to sing about sex or drugs. It's a mockery of the style without any of the emotional weight behind it.

Anyway, if you're being obnoxiously Christian in a building full of Jewish people or something, expect the HOA to tell you to STFU.


We have one like that in our senior complex. She runs the weekly movie program and takes notes on people's reactions to the films. She once mistakenly started showing Dallas Buyers Club and shut it down a few minutes in, then went to management to complain about (1) the fact that they had a copy of such an "unGodly" film, and also (2) the people who complained that she stopped the movie.

She reminds me of the people in the Anti-Sex League in 1984. If Pence ever becomes President and enacts a theocratic state, she will be a Block Warden.
 
2018-03-08 09:35:17 AM  
Starnes will one day be caught half dressed, in a motel room, with an underrated boy.
 
2018-03-08 09:36:10 AM  

AquaTatanka: Starnes will one day be caught half dressed, in a motel room, with an underrated boy.


Ermm... should have previewed there.
Underaged not underrated.
 
2018-03-08 09:38:49 AM  

redmid17: dv-ous: Forbidden Doughnut: Well, banning Bible studies is clearly a bad idea, but I could get behind banning Christian music, at least most of it that was composed/written after the 19th century.

/ why does modern "Christian" music suck so badly compared to pretty much anything from the 15th -mid19th century?

Because it's a bunch of people who think rock and roll is cool, but don't want to sing about sex or drugs. It's a mockery of the style without any of the emotional weight behind it.

Anyway, if you're being obnoxiously Christian in a building full of Jewish people or something, expect the HOA to tell you to STFU.

Man I love armchair morons:

Similarly, when condominiums or apartments have a common room that can be reserved by residents for private activities like parties or book studies, residents seeking to hold a Bible study or other private religious activity may not be discriminated against.

This isn't even from a partisan site or newspaper. This is the Department of Justice.


The problem is that the god-botherers get into everyone else's business. If the twits would actually hold private Buybull studies there would not be a problem.
 
2018-03-08 09:44:47 AM  
Ok now I'm laughing at most of the thread.

Me: "You cannot ban religious groups from common spaces. You can set limits but you cannot ban them when other groups get to use the space."

The thread: "yeah but these people suck!"
 
2018-03-08 09:45:33 AM  

daffy: JuggleGeek: It sounds like this lady was essentially trying to make their common area into her own private church.

I don't think that is what was going on. It says in the article that the room was used by various groups at different times. If it is a private room and they don't stick posters, on the walls, they should have every right to use it for bible studies. As far as the music is concerned, they should all sing Amazing Grace every time they go in there.


I go to a UU church, and help set up chairs, etc. on Sunday mornings. They own the building, but defray costs by leasing it out to other religious groups during the week. One of the groups is a "rock n roll" evangelical church. My pet peeve is that they NEVER CLEAN UP THEIR CRAP. They farking RENT the space from people with another religious perspective and do everything in their power to screw with that perspective, and place their own "stamp" on the building.
 
2018-03-08 09:46:39 AM  

Bslim: rubi_con_man: redmid17: dv-ous: Forbidden Doughnut: Well, banning Bible studies is clearly a bad idea, but I could get behind banning Christian music, at least most of it that was composed/written after the 19th century.

/ why does modern "Christian" music suck so badly compared to pretty much anything from the 15th -mid19th century?

Because it's a bunch of people who think rock and roll is cool, but don't want to sing about sex or drugs. It's a mockery of the style without any of the emotional weight behind it.

Anyway, if you're being obnoxiously Christian in a building full of Jewish people or something, expect the HOA to tell you to STFU.

Man I love armchair morons:

Similarly, when condominiums or apartments have a common room that can be reserved by residents for private activities like parties or book studies, residents seeking to hold a Bible study or other private religious activity may not be discriminated against.

This isn't even from a partisan site or newspaper. This is the Department of Justice.

Meh, I suspect that the woman giving 4,000 hours a year in soup kitchen charity doesn't have a 'small' bible study group. The Inclusion of the ban on music suggests to me that a large number of holy rollers were having multiple events per day , with music, in a place that seems to be an assisted-living home for old folks.

This isn't about faith. it's about noise and quiet enjoyment. If she wants to open a church on land she owns (or leases) that's fine.  You don't get to buy a studio apartment and run a church out of the common areas. Maybe her group needs to hold 'bible study' at the soup kitchen?

There is no doubt in my mind that is exactly what's going on. She has been steadily building her own little ministry and trying to take over the complex. That is what those cultists do


Yep.
 
2018-03-08 09:48:15 AM  

AquaTatanka: AquaTatanka: Starnes will one day be caught half dressed, in a motel room, with an underrated boy.

Ermm... should have previewed there.
Underaged not underrated.


You were right the first time.
 
2018-03-08 09:48:39 AM  

gar1013: dv-ous: Forbidden Doughnut: Well, banning Bible studies is clearly a bad idea, but I could get behind banning Christian music, at least most of it that was composed/written after the 19th century.

/ why does modern "Christian" music suck so badly compared to pretty much anything from the 15th -mid19th century?

Because it's a bunch of people who think rock and roll is cool, but don't want to sing about sex or drugs. It's a mockery of the style without any of the emotional weight behind it.

Anyway, if you're being obnoxiously Christian in a building full of Jewish people or something, expect the HOA to tell you to STFU.

So if people are being obnoxiously Muslim, are you down with banning the use of common areas for their prayers?


Interestingly, I have never run into people being "obnoxiously Muslim." Muslims are generally non-imposing to a fault.
 
2018-03-08 09:54:51 AM  

redmid17: Ok now I'm laughing at most of the thread.

Me: "You cannot ban religious groups from common spaces. You can set limits but you cannot ban them when other groups get to use the space."

The thread: "yeah but these people suck!"


Your reading comprehension sucks
 
2018-03-08 10:37:10 AM  

kobrakai: redmid17: Ok now I'm laughing at most of the thread.

Me: "You cannot ban religious groups from common spaces. You can set limits but you cannot ban them when other groups get to use the space."

The thread: "yeah but these people suck!"

Your reading comprehension sucks


It really doesn't. The quotes at the bottom of the post are shiatting on this lady and her religion and make a ton of seemingly incorrect assumptions.

It's a weekly bible study. It met for 2 hours every Monday for over a year. They let people show movies and have game nights there, so there's some level of noise and large groups going on in the room.
Dys said since groups of the same size are allowed to hold game nights and movie nights, Dunbar should be able to hold Bible study.
"The federal Fair Housing Act doesn't allow a condo association like this to allow people to meet on secular topics, but not to meet on religious topics," he said.


You can read the HUD complaint here. They couldn't have done a more hamfisted job of breaking the law if they tried:
§ 100.65 Discrimination in terms, conditions and privileges and in services and facilities.
(4) Limiting the use of privileges, services or facilities associated with a dwelling because of race, color, religion, sex, handicapfamilial status, or national origin of an ownertenant or a person associated with him or her.


The "No Christian Music Allowed" in the common room was a great touch though. Doubling down by having residents remove crosses from their doorway was definitely not illegal either. The only thing left in my mind is whether or not HUD will doing anything about it. On one hand, this admin jumps through hoops for evangelicals. On the other hand, Ben Carson has said "HUDing is difficult."

Meh, I suspect that the woman giving 4,000 hours a year in soup kitchen charity doesn't have a 'small' bible study group. The Inclusion of the ban on music suggests to me that a large number of holy rollers were having multiple events per day , with music, in a place that seems to be an assisted-living home for old folks.

This isn't about faith. it's about noise and quiet enjoyment.

She has been steadily building her own little ministry and trying to take over the complex. That is what those cultists do

The problem is that the god-botherers get into everyone else's business. If the twits would actually hold private Buybull studies there would not be a problem.
 
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