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2018-03-08 02:53:33 AM  
Something ominous is happening to men in America.

Especially straight, white men, those guys can't catch a break!
 
2018-03-08 05:26:22 AM  
Who you calling an invert?
 
2018-03-08 06:08:04 AM  
This is where F*cker went to HIGH SCHOOL:

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Let's just say he's not really in touch with the real world.
 
2018-03-08 06:11:15 AM  

NewportBarGuy: This is where F*cker went to HIGH SCHOOL:

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Let's just say he's not really in touch with the real world.


Under that bridge?

/plausible
 
2018-03-08 06:11:54 AM  
Faux News "entertainer" says what?
 
2018-03-08 06:12:07 AM  
It's hard for Tucker to respect women with his blow-up doll at home.
 
2018-03-08 06:16:14 AM  
Can't this shiatbag go live a life of lavish luxury on a secluded beach somewhere on his disgusting Swanson frozen dinner fortune out of my sight?
 
2018-03-08 06:17:17 AM  
The Human Taint said what?

/anybody care?
//didn't think so
 
2018-03-08 06:18:28 AM  
As someone who lives this daily, Tucker Carlson can go blow a goat.
 
2018-03-08 06:21:07 AM  
Whenever gender differences come up in public debate, the so-called wage gap seems to dominate the conversation. You've heard it, a woman makes 77 cents for every dollar a man earns. That's a statistic that you'll hear a lot, presidents have repeated it, many candidates, it's everywhere. And yet that number compares all American men to all American women across all professions. No legitimate social scientists would consider that a valid or meaningful measure. The number doesn't mean anything, it's intentionally misleading. It's a talking point. Once you compare men and women with a similar experience working the same hours and similar jobs for the same period of time, that's the only way you can measure it. That gap all but disappears. In fact, it may invert.

I agree with that.

We have a giant pool of people to compare. You really should be able to find men and women with the same qualifications who are employed in the same job whom you then can compare.

And if you can't give me hard facts then fark off.
 
2018-03-08 06:25:18 AM  
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2018-03-08 06:26:02 AM  
Tucker, if I ever meet you, you're getting a junk punch right in the man business.
 
2018-03-08 06:33:28 AM  

lucksi: Whenever gender differences come up in public debate, the so-called wage gap seems to dominate the conversation. You've heard it, a woman makes 77 cents for every dollar a man earns. That's a statistic that you'll hear a lot, presidents have repeated it, many candidates, it's everywhere. And yet that number compares all American men to all American women across all professions. No legitimate social scientists would consider that a valid or meaningful measure. The number doesn't mean anything, it's intentionally misleading. It's a talking point. Once you compare men and women with a similar experience working the same hours and similar jobs for the same period of time, that's the only way you can measure it. That gap all but disappears. In fact, it may invert.

I agree with that.

We have a giant pool of people to compare. You really should be able to find men and women with the same qualifications who are employed in the same job whom you then can compare.

And if you can't give me hard facts then fark off.


That sounds right at first - until you see that more men get hired, promoted, etc. within the highest paying jobs. E.g., even though more women graduate fron law schools, there are more male law firm partners.
 
2018-03-08 06:37:05 AM  
BigDamn:

That sounds right at first - until you see that more men get hired, promoted, etc. within the highest paying jobs. E.g., even though more women graduate fron law schools, there are more male law firm partners.

It's been very high profile in the UK recently because on screen 'talent' salaries at ITV and the BBC got leaked (or were just released, I can't remember). Like everywhere else, talk shows and news programs etc here are often presented by a male/female team... by definition doing the exact same job. And in many cases the men were being paid SO much more than the women.
 
2018-03-08 06:42:51 AM  
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If I ever became as big of an asshole as this guy, I hope my family members would kill me and put me out of your misery.
 
2018-03-08 06:43:09 AM  
I've been thinking a lot recently about how honest bigotry, the type that just says "whites are better than blacks," "men are better than women," is somehow less detestable than modern bigotry which is just one big exercise in gaslighting.
 
2018-03-08 06:43:28 AM  

Lady J: BigDamn:

That sounds right at first - until you see that more men get hired, promoted, etc. within the highest paying jobs. E.g., even though more women graduate fron law schools, there are more male law firm partners.

It's been very high profile in the UK recently because on screen 'talent' salaries at ITV and the BBC got leaked (or were just released, I can't remember). Like everywhere else, talk shows and news programs etc here are often presented by a male/female team... by definition doing the exact same job. And in many cases the men were being paid SO much more than the women.


But that's just, like, facts
:/
 
2018-03-08 06:45:55 AM  

BigDamn: That sounds right at first - until you see that more men get hired, promoted, etc. within the highest paying jobs. E.g., even though more women graduate fron law schools, there are more male law firm partners.


That's because women really don't want to be law firm partners, according to every movie on the Hallmark Channel.  They really just want to open a bakery in a small New England town and fall in love with a guy who builds houses.
 
2018-03-08 06:47:02 AM  

Lady J: BigDamn:

That sounds right at first - until you see that more men get hired, promoted, etc. within the highest paying jobs. E.g., even though more women graduate fron law schools, there are more male law firm partners.

It's been very high profile in the UK recently because on screen 'talent' salaries at ITV and the BBC got leaked (or were just released, I can't remember). Like everywhere else, talk shows and news programs etc here are often presented by a male/female team... by definition doing the exact same job. And in many cases the men were being paid SO much more than the women.


i agree with you both, but only gave BigDamn a vote.  assumptions aside, it seems appropriate
 
2018-03-08 06:47:04 AM  
His father was once ambassador to the Seychelles? What a coinky-dink. (not)
 
2018-03-08 06:48:14 AM  

BigDamn: Lady J: BigDamn:

That sounds right at first - until you see that more men get hired, promoted, etc. within the highest paying jobs. E.g., even though more women graduate fron law schools, there are more male law firm partners.

It's been very high profile in the UK recently because on screen 'talent' salaries at ITV and the BBC got leaked (or were just released, I can't remember). Like everywhere else, talk shows and news programs etc here are often presented by a male/female team... by definition doing the exact same job. And in many cases the men were being paid SO much more than the women.

But that's just, like, facts
:/


And a man's feelings are more important than my facts. I get it.

/slopes off to kitchen to resume sammich making
 
2018-03-08 06:50:56 AM  
The American conservative movement has become obsessed with straight white male identity/grievance politics.
 
2018-03-08 06:53:12 AM  

BigDamn: lucksi: Whenever gender differences come up in public debate, the so-called wage gap seems to dominate the conversation. You've heard it, a woman makes 77 cents for every dollar a man earns. That's a statistic that you'll hear a lot, presidents have repeated it, many candidates, it's everywhere. And yet that number compares all American men to all American women across all professions. No legitimate social scientists would consider that a valid or meaningful measure. The number doesn't mean anything, it's intentionally misleading. It's a talking point. Once you compare men and women with a similar experience working the same hours and similar jobs for the same period of time, that's the only way you can measure it. That gap all but disappears. In fact, it may invert.

I agree with that.

We have a giant pool of people to compare. You really should be able to find men and women with the same qualifications who are employed in the same job whom you then can compare.

And if you can't give me hard facts then fark off.

That sounds right at first - until you see that more men get hired, promoted, etc. within the highest paying jobs. E.g., even though more women graduate fron law schools, there are more male law firm partners.


That could easily be explained by the undisputed fact that there exists far greater social pressure for men to succeed professionally, coupled with a greater tendency toward aggressive negotiation and risk-taking. Fortune favours the bold, as they say. Of course, those same traits which lead many men to success end up destroying others when those gambles fail. That is when they end up homeless or as ashamed suicides.
 
2018-03-08 06:54:48 AM  

Lady J: BigDamn: Lady J: BigDamn:

That sounds right at first - until you see that more men get hired, promoted, etc. within the highest paying jobs. E.g., even though more women graduate fron law schools, there are more male law firm partners.

It's been very high profile in the UK recently because on screen 'talent' salaries at ITV and the BBC got leaked (or were just released, I can't remember). Like everywhere else, talk shows and news programs etc here are often presented by a male/female team... by definition doing the exact same job. And in many cases the men were being paid SO much more than the women.

But that's just, like, facts
:/

And a man's feelings are more important than my facts. I get it.

/slopes off to kitchen to resume sammich making


Seriously tho, fb friend posted this article and was talking about the war on white straight men. As someone that passes in that category, I feel uncomfortably confident saying that, in general, we're doing fine. I get the beef that rural/low ed, poor white men have, and relative to their fathers, they are disadvantaged - it's why Trump won. However, relative to everyone else, things are still better for the straight white male.
 
2018-03-08 06:56:50 AM  

aagrajag: Of course, those same traits which lead many men to success end up destroying others when those gambles fail. That is when they end up homeless or as ashamed suicides.


Not often enough.
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2018-03-08 06:57:50 AM  

Lady J: BigDamn:

That sounds right at first - until you see that more men get hired, promoted, etc. within the highest paying jobs. E.g., even though more women graduate fron law schools, there are more male law firm partners.

It's been very high profile in the UK recently because on screen 'talent' salaries at ITV and the BBC got leaked (or were just released, I can't remember). Like everywhere else, talk shows and news programs etc here are often presented by a male/female team... by definition doing the exact same job. And in many cases the men were being paid SO much more than the women.


Ok, and how does it look like in the real world? Like ~90% of where us normals are?
Does Walmart pay the male cashiers more than the female? Does Amazon pay their male fulfilment robots more? Does McDs pay it's male burger flippers more? Do male nurses get a higher salary than female nurses?

My first job was as an apprenticeship to become a mechanic. In the class of 23 people, there were 2 women. Who earned exactly the same as it was a labour agreement in place even though we were all employed by different companies.

How many jobs are there without labour agreements? Or collective bargaining. Or whatever the name. And their members should earn the same.

And not to piss on your TV hosts thing, do they have the same job? Isn't the male the talker (main host) and the woman has to sit there looking pretty and is out when she gets the first wrinkles? Not watching TV, so no clue if that has changed in the last few decades.
 
2018-03-08 06:59:19 AM  

lucksi: Lady J: BigDamn:

That sounds right at first - until you see that more men get hired, promoted, etc. within the highest paying jobs. E.g., even though more women graduate fron law schools, there are more male law firm partners.

It's been very high profile in the UK recently because on screen 'talent' salaries at ITV and the BBC got leaked (or were just released, I can't remember). Like everywhere else, talk shows and news programs etc here are often presented by a male/female team... by definition doing the exact same job. And in many cases the men were being paid SO much more than the women.

Ok, and how does it look like in the real world? Like ~90% of where us normals are?
Does Walmart pay the male cashiers more than the female? Does Amazon pay their male fulfilment robots more? Does McDs pay it's male burger flippers more? Do male nurses get a higher salary than female nurses?

My first job was as an apprenticeship to become a mechanic. In the class of 23 people, there were 2 women. Who earned exactly the same as it was a labour agreement in place even though we were all employed by different companies.

How many jobs are there without labour agreements? Or collective bargaining. Or whatever the name. And their members should earn the same.

And not to piss on your TV hosts thing, do they have the same job? Isn't the male the talker (main host) and the woman has to sit there looking pretty and is out when she gets the first wrinkles? Not watching TV, so no clue if that has changed in the last few decades.


"Male Amazon fulfillment robots"?

You did a really, really good job of making yourself look like an idiot here.
 
2018-03-08 07:02:08 AM  
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2018-03-08 07:03:34 AM  

qorkfiend: lucksi: Lady J: BigDamn:

That sounds right at first - until you see that more men get hired, promoted, etc. within the highest paying jobs. E.g., even though more women graduate fron law schools, there are more male law firm partners.

It's been very high profile in the UK recently because on screen 'talent' salaries at ITV and the BBC got leaked (or were just released, I can't remember). Like everywhere else, talk shows and news programs etc here are often presented by a male/female team... by definition doing the exact same job. And in many cases the men were being paid SO much more than the women.

Ok, and how does it look like in the real world? Like ~90% of where us normals are?
Does Walmart pay the male cashiers more than the female? Does Amazon pay their male fulfilment robots more? Does McDs pay it's male burger flippers more? Do male nurses get a higher salary than female nurses?

My first job was as an apprenticeship to become a mechanic. In the class of 23 people, there were 2 women. Who earned exactly the same as it was a labour agreement in place even though we were all employed by different companies.

How many jobs are there without labour agreements? Or collective bargaining. Or whatever the name. And their members should earn the same.

And not to piss on your TV hosts thing, do they have the same job? Isn't the male the talker (main host) and the woman has to sit there looking pretty and is out when she gets the first wrinkles? Not watching TV, so no clue if that has changed in the last few decades.

"Male Amazon fulfillment robots"?

You did a really, really good job of making yourself look like an idiot here.


Yeah, it's totally not obvious that I mean the human "robots", or drones that Amazon staffes it's centers with.
 
2018-03-08 07:04:30 AM  

lucksi: Lady J: BigDamn:

That sounds right at first - until you see that more men get hired, promoted, etc. within the highest paying jobs. E.g., even though more women graduate fron law schools, there are more male law firm partners.

It's been very high profile in the UK recently because on screen 'talent' salaries at ITV and the BBC got leaked (or were just released, I can't remember). Like everywhere else, talk shows and news programs etc here are often presented by a male/female team... by definition doing the exact same job. And in many cases the men were being paid SO much more than the women.

Ok, and how does it look like in the real world? Like ~90% of where us normals are?
Does Walmart pay the male cashiers more than the female? Does Amazon pay their male fulfilment robots more? Does McDs pay it's male burger flippers more? Do male nurses get a higher salary than female nurses?

My first job was as an apprenticeship to become a mechanic. In the class of 23 people, there were 2 women. Who earned exactly the same as it was a labour agreement in place even though we were all employed by different companies.

How many jobs are there without labour agreements? Or collective bargaining. Or whatever the name. And their members should earn the same.

And not to piss on your TV hosts thing, do they have the same job? Isn't the male the talker (main host) and the woman has to sit there looking pretty and is out when she gets the first wrinkles? Not watching TV, so no clue if that has changed in the last few decades.


Dude. You tried the supercilious foreigner persona on here and it didnt work out, so now you're going with a classic and trying out pointless contrarian?
 
2018-03-08 07:04:37 AM  
lucksi:
like ~90% of where us normals are?

Not watching TV, so no clue


Normal? Doesn't watch TV? Pick one.
 
2018-03-08 07:05:47 AM  

elkboy: [i.ytimg.com image 850x478]

If I ever became as big of an asshole as this guy, I hope my family members would kill me and put me out of your misery.


Tucker looks like he got photoshopped into that...
 
2018-03-08 07:05:48 AM  

Lady J: lucksi: derp

Dude. You tried the supercilious foreigner persona on here and it didnt work out, so now you're going with a classic and trying out pointless contrarian?


"LOL, jokes on u ,I was only pretending to be retarded."
 
2018-03-08 07:10:00 AM  

lucksi: qorkfiend: lucksi: Lady J: BigDamn:

That sounds right at first - until you see that more men get hired, promoted, etc. within the highest paying jobs. E.g., even though more women graduate fron law schools, there are more male law firm partners.

It's been very high profile in the UK recently because on screen 'talent' salaries at ITV and the BBC got leaked (or were just released, I can't remember). Like everywhere else, talk shows and news programs etc here are often presented by a male/female team... by definition doing the exact same job. And in many cases the men were being paid SO much more than the women.

Ok, and how does it look like in the real world? Like ~90% of where us normals are?
Does Walmart pay the male cashiers more than the female? Does Amazon pay their male fulfilment robots more? Does McDs pay it's male burger flippers more? Do male nurses get a higher salary than female nurses?

My first job was as an apprenticeship to become a mechanic. In the class of 23 people, there were 2 women. Who earned exactly the same as it was a labour agreement in place even though we were all employed by different companies.

How many jobs are there without labour agreements? Or collective bargaining. Or whatever the name. And their members should earn the same.

And not to piss on your TV hosts thing, do they have the same job? Isn't the male the talker (main host) and the woman has to sit there looking pretty and is out when she gets the first wrinkles? Not watching TV, so no clue if that has changed in the last few decades.

"Male Amazon fulfillment robots"?

You did a really, really good job of making yourself look like an idiot here.

Yeah, it's totally not obvious that I mean the human "robots", or drones that Amazon staffes it's centers with.


Right. You meant "people", so you used the word "robot" which means something entirely different.
 
2018-03-08 07:12:43 AM  
Once you compare men and women with a similar experience working the same hours and similar jobs for the same period of time, that's the only way you can measure it. That gap all but disappears


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2018-03-08 07:12:49 AM  

lucksi: Lady J: BigDamn:

That sounds right at first - until you see that more men get hired, promoted, etc. within the highest paying jobs. E.g., even though more women graduate fron law schools, there are more male law firm partners.

It's been very high profile in the UK recently because on screen 'talent' salaries at ITV and the BBC got leaked (or were just released, I can't remember). Like everywhere else, talk shows and news programs etc here are often presented by a male/female team... by definition doing the exact same job. And in many cases the men were being paid SO much more than the women.

Ok, and how does it look like in the real world? Like ~90% of where us normals are?
Does Walmart pay the male cashiers more than the female? Does Amazon pay their male fulfilment robots more? Does McDs pay it's male burger flippers more? Do male nurses get a higher salary than female nurses?

My first job was as an apprenticeship to become a mechanic. In the class of 23 people, there were 2 women. Who earned exactly the same as it was a labour agreement in place even though we were all employed by different companies.

How many jobs are there without labour agreements? Or collective bargaining. Or whatever the name. And their members should earn the same.

And not to piss on your TV hosts thing, do they have the same job? Isn't the male the talker (main host) and the woman has to sit there looking pretty and is out when she gets the first wrinkles? Not watching TV, so no clue if that has changed in the last few decades.


Only 10.7% of American workers are covered by union agreements.
 
2018-03-08 07:13:27 AM  

Lady J: BigDamn: Lady J: BigDamn:

That sounds right at first - until you see that more men get hired, promoted, etc. within the highest paying jobs. E.g., even though more women graduate fron law schools, there are more male law firm partners.

It's been very high profile in the UK recently because on screen 'talent' salaries at ITV and the BBC got leaked (or were just released, I can't remember). Like everywhere else, talk shows and news programs etc here are often presented by a male/female team... by definition doing the exact same job. And in many cases the men were being paid SO much more than the women.

But that's just, like, facts
:/

And a man's feelings are more important than my facts. I get it.

/slopes off to kitchen to resume sammich making


See, yet another area where men are tragically falling behind. Women dominate the making a sandwich positions. The pay gap in the trophy wife profession is equally appalling. And don't get me started on how few male nuns you see.
 
2018-03-08 07:15:05 AM  
Let's go ahead and posit the false narrative that women earn less because they are choosing to focus on raising children over pursuing their careers...

It's false, but shouldn't we also be a little perturbed by the fact that parenting falls mainly on women to sacrifice for and that men are not sharing in that experience or giving up real rewards for their children?

Why should this role only impact women?

I don't think these idiots have thought this through very well.
 
2018-03-08 07:15:15 AM  

Descartes: Once you compare men and women with a similar experience working the same hours and similar jobs for the same period of time, that's the only way you can measure it. That gap all but disappears

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Is he? Let's see the stats then...
 
2018-03-08 07:16:35 AM  
What? Tucker Carlson is being a dick? I'm shocked!
 
2018-03-08 07:17:40 AM  
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2018-03-08 07:18:20 AM  

Lady J: Descartes: Once you compare men and women with a similar experience working the same hours and similar jobs for the same period of time, that's the only way you can measure it. That gap all but disappears

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Is he? Let's see the stats then...


Dammit woman, this isn't about your stats, this is about how it makes him FEEL. Don't you dare tell that man his feelings are wrong, have you no shame? Have you forgotten your place?
 
2018-03-08 07:18:21 AM  

Egoy3k: What? Tucker Carlson is being a dick? I'm shocked!


I'm just happy that subby didn't try to shoehorn the "sentient bowtie" forced meme into the headline.
 
2018-03-08 07:19:52 AM  

Archidude: lucksi: Lady J: BigDamn:

That sounds right at first - until you see that more men get hired, promoted, etc. within the highest paying jobs. E.g., even though more women graduate fron law schools, there are more male law firm partners.

It's been very high profile in the UK recently because on screen 'talent' salaries at ITV and the BBC got leaked (or were just released, I can't remember). Like everywhere else, talk shows and news programs etc here are often presented by a male/female team... by definition doing the exact same job. And in many cases the men were being paid SO much more than the women.

Ok, and how does it look like in the real world? Like ~90% of where us normals are?
Does Walmart pay the male cashiers more than the female? Does Amazon pay their male fulfilment robots more? Does McDs pay it's male burger flippers more? Do male nurses get a higher salary than female nurses?

My first job was as an apprenticeship to become a mechanic. In the class of 23 people, there were 2 women. Who earned exactly the same as it was a labour agreement in place even though we were all employed by different companies.

How many jobs are there without labour agreements? Or collective bargaining. Or whatever the name. And their members should earn the same.

And not to piss on your TV hosts thing, do they have the same job? Isn't the male the talker (main host) and the woman has to sit there looking pretty and is out when she gets the first wrinkles? Not watching TV, so no clue if that has changed in the last few decades.

Only 10.7% of American workers are covered by union agreements.


...that's low. It's 45% in Germany.
 
2018-03-08 07:20:20 AM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: aagrajag: Of course, those same traits which lead many men to success end up destroying others when those gambles fail. That is when they end up homeless or as ashamed suicides.

Not often enough.
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Hah, if only he would. His ilk never does though, for a capacity for shame is a prerequisite.
 
2018-03-08 07:21:06 AM  

ginandbacon: Let's go ahead and posit the false narrative that women earn less because they are choosing to focus on raising children over pursuing their careers...

It's false, but shouldn't we also be a little perturbed by the fact that parenting falls mainly on women to sacrifice for and that men are not sharing in that experience or giving up real rewards for their children?

Why should this role only impact women?

I don't think these idiots have thought this through very well.


Well to be fair income is usually helpful for the raising of children. I don't think it's entirely fair to say that in a single income family that the breadwinner is not parenting.  Kids need to be fed and clothed and protected from the elements.

I'm not saying this is strictly 'women's work' or any of the bullshiat but just like we shouldn't look down of the partner that is a homemaker  we shouldn't judge the partner who is financing the whole operation either.
 
2018-03-08 07:21:28 AM  

Lady J: Descartes: Once you compare men and women with a similar experience working the same hours and similar jobs for the same period of time, that's the only way you can measure it. That gap all but disappears

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Is he? Let's see the stats then...


He's not.
 
2018-03-08 07:24:39 AM  

lucksi: Lady J: BigDamn:

That sounds right at first - until you see that more men get hired, promoted, etc. within the highest paying jobs. E.g., even though more women graduate fron law schools, there are more male law firm partners.

It's been very high profile in the UK recently because on screen 'talent' salaries at ITV and the BBC got leaked (or were just released, I can't remember). Like everywhere else, talk shows and news programs etc here are often presented by a male/female team... by definition doing the exact same job. And in many cases the men were being paid SO much more than the women.

Ok, and how does it look like in the real world? Like ~90% of where us normals are?
Does Walmart pay the male cashiers more than the female? Does Amazon pay their male fulfilment robots more? Does McDs pay it's male burger flippers more? Do male nurses get a higher salary than female nurses?

My first job was as an apprenticeship to become a mechanic. In the class of 23 people, there were 2 women. Who earned exactly the same as it was a labour agreement in place even though we were all employed by different companies.

How many jobs are there without labour agreements? Or collective bargaining. Or whatever the name. And their members should earn the same.

And not to piss on your TV hosts thing, do they have the same job? Isn't the male the talker (main host) and the woman has to sit there looking pretty and is out when she gets the first wrinkles? Not watching TV, so no clue if that has changed in the last few decades.


This isn't America where that kind of dumbed-down, overtly sexist shiat happens.  The salaries were in some cases for co-presenters doing the EXACT same job at the EXACT SAME TIME on the EXACT SAME PROGRAMME but the man got paid£50k more per year.

It's a farking shame none of this information is readily available.
 
2018-03-08 07:24:51 AM  
But the women are coming up blessed be God and a few of the men are coming up with them. But man is in a tight place, the poor slave is on him, woman is coming on him, and he is surely between a hawk and a buzzard.
Sojourner Truth 1851
 
2018-03-08 07:27:48 AM  

Tomahawk513: Lady J: Descartes: Once you compare men and women with a similar experience working the same hours and similar jobs for the same period of time, that's the only way you can measure it. That gap all but disappears

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Is he? Let's see the stats then...

He's not.


I meant to add this to my last post... Yes, women are paid less than men, even when adjusted for occupation.  "But what about experience?" Well, that just shifts the goalposts, and not exactly to higher ground either.  If Men are getting more or better experience and earning more as a result, that's not any better, it just means we're discriminating against women in the workplace in new and exciting (but still douchey) ways.
 
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