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(Cult of Mac)   29 years ago Apple released a 15" 640x870 pixel grayscale portrait display CRT that didn't work well around metal desks, file cabinets, bookshelves, fluorescent lights, monitors, coffee makers or copy machines. It cost buyers $1700. And their dignity   ( cultofmac.com) divider line
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2018-03-08 06:39:58 AM  
Added plus: skinny mirror
 
2018-03-08 07:52:23 AM  
So they actually patented "you're holding it wrong" in 1989?
 
2018-03-08 08:10:46 AM  
I have a portrait monitor on my desk right now.

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so what
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2018-03-08 08:17:51 AM  
I remember we accidentally ordered a portrait mode display from IBM around that time. I wish it had been compatible with my computer. There was probably a typo in a part number in our order. Otherwise somebody didn't read the hardware and software compatibility list.

(Disclaimer: I'm not certain it was an official IBM product. The Wikipedia list of IBM products does not have enough information. But it was for the IBM world rather than DEC or Sun, which were the other well represented computer models on campus.)
 
2018-03-08 08:33:01 AM  
The Home Pod will soon be seen next to it in a museum.
 
2018-03-08 08:33:56 AM  
Hardly anybody had any of the problems Subby is trumpeting in the headline. Of course, being wrong and 30 years out of date is not particularly surprising when you're dealing with an iHater troll.

Both Subby and whoever gave this the greenlight should feel shame, if they are capable of that.
 
2018-03-08 08:51:19 AM  
Portrait monitors (and pivoting monitors) were common in publishing where Macs dominated. No idea what the "dignity" crack is supposed to mean.
 
2018-03-08 08:58:51 AM  

bingethinker: Hardly anybody had any of the problems Subby is trumpeting in the headline. Of course, being wrong and 30 years out of date is not particularly surprising when you're dealing with an iHater troll.

Both Subby and whoever gave this the greenlight should feel shame, if they are capable of that.


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2018-03-08 09:05:27 AM  
The Radius Full Page Display shipped in 1988, a year before the Macintosh Portrait Display. Radius dropped the price of its monitor to $895 when Apple's alternative arrived the next year.

At the time, people viewed it as a quirky experiment from Apple with only limited applications. Today, it appears very clear that an elongated display was an innovation very much worth pursuing - seen most notably through the way we vertically view web pages on our iPhones.


Apple have a very long history of inventing things their competitors were already selling first.
 
2018-03-08 09:15:35 AM  

Gordon Bennett: The Radius Full Page Display shipped in 1988, a year before the Macintosh Portrait Display. Radius dropped the price of its monitor to $895 when Apple's alternative arrived the next year.

At the time, people viewed it as a quirky experiment from Apple with only limited applications. Today, it appears very clear that an elongated display was an innovation very much worth pursuing - seen most notably through the way we vertically view web pages on our iPhones.

Apple have a very long history of inventing things their competitors were already selling first.


Oh, come on, let him have tis one
 
2018-03-08 09:26:37 AM  
Back in grad school over of my friends had a Mac SE30 in a lab.  Next room over was an enormous NMR.  if you put the Mac anywhere close to that wall the display would turn all sorts of funny shapes- just right and you could get a trapezoid with one side being half the height of the other.

CRTs were fun
 
2018-03-08 09:32:51 AM  

theflatline: The Home Pod will soon be seen next to it in a museum.


My prediction for HomePod: price drop and software update that opens it up  to being more like a Sonos or any other Bluetooth speaker.
 
2018-03-08 10:02:10 AM  

stuhayes2010: theflatline: The Home Pod will soon be seen next to it in a museum.

My prediction for HomePod: price drop and software update that opens it up  to being more like a Sonos or any other Bluetooth speaker.


Is it not selling well?
 
2018-03-08 10:02:41 AM  
It would be perfect for fullscreen Tetris.
 
db2
2018-03-08 10:07:00 AM  

stuhayes2010: theflatline: The Home Pod will soon be seen next to it in a museum.

My prediction for HomePod: price drop and software update that opens it up  to being more like a Sonos or any other Bluetooth speaker.


My prediction: Apple's steadfast adherence to not-invented-here syndrome causes the HomePod to languish in obscurity for a couple of years before being quietly discontinued, while they feebly grasp at relevance and the search for the "next big thing".
 
2018-03-08 10:14:16 AM  
I have a Performa from 1996. PowerPC. It was the last good thing AppHell ever made.
 
2018-03-08 10:15:07 AM  
My dad had one of their Pivot monitors: big ol' CRT you could flip from portrait to landscape, and the screen would automatically switch. Neat stuff.
 
2018-03-08 10:25:59 AM  
It's on sale now for only $1500.
 
2018-03-08 10:26:06 AM  

db2: while they feebly grasp at relevance

 I've been hearing the same sneering comments about Apple's imminent failure for over 30 years.
Meanwhile, in Apple news...$285.1 billion cash reserve as of February 2018$88.3 billion revenue Q4 2017$20 billion profit Q4 2017
 
2018-03-08 10:33:27 AM  

Millennium: My dad had one of their Pivot monitors: big ol' CRT you could flip from portrait to landscape, and the screen would automatically switch. Neat stuff


Pivoting monitors are still a thing, and almost all PCs and Macs support the function.

It's not advertised much, but they are easy to find. This is the first one listed when I search Newegg for "pivot monitor".
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2018-03-08 10:34:00 AM  

jaytkay: db2: while they feebly grasp at relevance
 I've been hearing the same sneering comments about Apple's imminent failure for over 30 years.
Meanwhile, in Apple news...$285.1 billion cash reserve as of February 2018$88.3 billion revenue Q4 2017$20 billion profit Q4 2017


A fool and his money.
One born every minute.
and so on.

Just because they're making money doesn't mean they aren't also failures when it comes to a lot of their technology.
 
2018-03-08 10:37:44 AM  

WilderKWight: Just because they're making money doesn't mean they aren't also failures when it comes to a lot of their technology.


He says smugly while fondly stroking his Zune and adjusting his fedora.
 
2018-03-08 10:42:07 AM  

jaytkay: db2: while they feebly grasp at relevance
 I've been hearing the same sneering comments about Apple's imminent failure for over 30 years.
Meanwhile, in Apple news...$285.1 billion cash reserve as of February 2018$88.3 billion revenue Q4 2017$20 billion profit Q4 2017


Well, it was hype until Jobs died. Now they are doomed. The vision of the company is gone. As you can see that since Jobs died they haven't come out with ANYTHING good. Just rehashing old tech. And coming up with stuff that no one wants. To be sure, it's going to take a few years. But they were sinking into the toilet the last time Cook was CEO, and what saved Apple was Jobs coming back into the fold. They are sinking again, and this time Jobs can't come back to save them.
The last time Cook was at the helm we got this as their flagship product...
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2018-03-08 10:47:54 AM  

jaytkay: He says smugly while fondly stroking his Zune and adjusting his fedora.


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/Just kidding
//Damn that Zune is dusty
///Third slash is stupid!
 
2018-03-08 10:59:43 AM  

mrsleep: the last time Cook was CEO, and what saved Apple was Jobs coming back


Ummm....

Jobs hired Cook in 1998. Cook was never CEO until Jobs became too sick.

.

mrsleep: The last time Cook was at the helm we got this as their flagship product...


Cook was a newly hired VP when the iMac was released.

And it takes real ignorance to see that as some kind of insult. The iMac was a huge success.
 
2018-03-08 11:10:05 AM  
vertical monitors were pretty common in the railroad industry at this time.  Yard Masters would review train manifests and yard track makeup on them.  they had a cool grey background with black text and they were designed to not be fatiguing... i wish i had taken photos of that era...
 
2018-03-08 11:11:21 AM  

jaytkay: mrsleep: the last time Cook was CEO, and what saved Apple was Jobs coming back

Ummm....

Jobs hired Cook in 1998. Cook was never CEO until Jobs became too sick.

.mrsleep: The last time Cook was at the helm we got this as their flagship product...

Cook was a newly hired VP when the iMac was released.

And it takes real ignorance to see that as some kind of insult. The iMac was a huge success.


You bit on that? I think you've had quite enough internet for today.
 
2018-03-08 11:18:00 AM  
I miss the degauss button from CRTs.

There I said it.  Judge me if you will.
 
2018-03-08 11:19:50 AM  

tdyak: I miss the degauss button from CRTs.

There I said it.  Judge me if you will.


Degauss. Now that's a word I've not heard in a long time. A long time.
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2018-03-08 11:25:09 AM  

jaytkay: Portrait monitors (and pivoting monitors) were common in publishing where Macs dominated. No idea what the "dignity" crack is supposed to mean.


The pivot monitors were also from Radius.  And they needed a special video card.  When my mom's Color Pivot finally died, I sent to the card to someone in the UK with the opposite problem. (in exchange for a Red Dwarf tee shirt)

I used it all through high school when working on papers and such.  It seems like a strange thing, but it was really useful when you were using PageMaker or similar software.
 
2018-03-08 11:28:20 AM  
My friend's dad in highschool was the only person we knew who had an apple computer growing up.  He had a T-shirt printing company.  We used it to make our fake ID's and would drive to Fort Smtih, AR to Kinko's to print them off because home color printing was crazy dollars at that time.

I would flirt with the girl who worked there while my friend printed them off.

/csb
 
2018-03-08 11:30:49 AM  
Portrait orientation monitors are the only thing that make MS's ribbon make sense.
 
2018-03-08 11:38:01 AM  

jaytkay: mrsleep: the last time Cook was CEO, and what saved Apple was Jobs coming back

Ummm....

Jobs hired Cook in 1998. Cook was never CEO until Jobs became too sick.

.mrsleep: The last time Cook was at the helm we got this as their flagship product...

Cook was a newly hired VP when the iMac was released.

And it takes real ignorance to see that as some kind of insult. The iMac was a huge success.


Even I'd like an old iMac because they look neat.  They're not practical, but they're neat looking and playing with the text editor and voice output would bring back nostalgic memories from when I was 14 or 15 or so and making my friends iMac say dirty things.

Fark threads would be fun with an old iMac.
 
2018-03-08 11:38:23 AM  

jaytkay: WilderKWight: Just because they're making money doesn't mean they aren't also failures when it comes to a lot of their technology.

He says smugly while fondly stroking his Zune and adjusting his fedora.


That comeback's almost as funny as Apple's attempt at a game console.
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2018-03-08 11:39:36 AM  

Oneiros: jaytkay: Portrait monitors (and pivoting monitors) were common in publishing where Macs dominated. No idea what the "dignity" crack is supposed to mean.

The pivot monitors were also from Radius.  And they needed a special video card.  When my mom's Color Pivot finally died, I sent to the card to someone in the UK with the opposite problem. (in exchange for a Red Dwarf tee shirt)

I used it all through high school when working on papers and such.  It seems like a strange thing, but it was really useful when you were using PageMaker or similar software.


Look at you with your fancy monitor.  I had to turn my laptop sideways and use USB kb/mouse to do my reports back in school.
 
2018-03-08 11:40:15 AM  
We had one of those at my college newspaper. The press we worked with got pissed that we were composing full 11x17 pages [Aldus PageMaker and QuarkXPress] and printing them with photos already on them, instead of having them do it -- which meant we paid them less.

We later found out they had the exact same publishing setup at the press, but no one knew how to use it.
 
2018-03-08 11:50:04 AM  
Now release a laptop with 32G of RAM and a decent video card.
 
2018-03-08 11:52:50 AM  

jaytkay: tdyak: I miss the degauss button from CRTs.

There I said it.  Judge me if you will.

Degauss. Now that's a word I've not heard in a long time. A long time.
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Oh, yeah. I remember that button.

What the hell did it actually do?
 
2018-03-08 11:58:30 AM  
The important thing to do in this thread is to identify with a product or company and then attack anyone who identifies with a different product or company.
 
2018-03-08 12:19:39 PM  
The company I work for acquired another company that had a bunch of Radius products - among them a 20" 80# CRT that had RGB inputs. Nobody wanted it, so I took it home and had it Pantone-calibrated. It was gorgeous, but a pain to move.

Later on, I also ended up with a Pivot monitor, but could not get it to work with my PC setup.
 
2018-03-08 12:30:32 PM  

hashtag.acronym: Even I'd like an old iMac because they look neat.  They're not practical,


Maybe not for you, but your fish friends might enjoy an iMacquarium
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2018-03-08 12:53:48 PM  

foo monkey: Now release a laptop with 32G of RAM and a decent video card.


And go back to a non-shiat keyboard.
 
2018-03-08 01:02:13 PM  

Sailing Starflower: I have a portrait monitor on my desk right now.

[img.fark.net image 850x1133]so what


I have the same monitor, in the same position.
 
2018-03-08 02:02:17 PM  
We had a guy one time that had an intermittent issue with his CRT monitor. Just kept shutting itself off at random times. Worked on it for a week.

One day when I was going over the video color profiles he walks over to the other side of the desk and sticks a pencil in the automatic pencil sharpener, right Next to the CRT, and *dink* the screen bliped out.
 
2018-03-08 02:12:39 PM  

soporific: Oh, yeah. I remember that button.

What the hell did it actually do?


That energized a big coil around the CRT to demagnetize the shadow mask. It would start with a big surge of current and then taper it off. Most monitors would do that automatically on startup as well; that's that loud "HMMMM!" you'd hear.

One old 21" Philips monitor I came across used a high frequency oscillator instead of using 60 Hz, and that one was more of a "bink!" as a result.
 
2018-03-08 02:20:20 PM  

Fubegra: soporific: Oh, yeah. I remember that button.

What the hell did it actually do?

That energized a big coil around the CRT to demagnetize the shadow mask. It would start with a big surge of current and then taper it off. Most monitors would do that automatically on startup as well; that's that loud "HMMMM!" you'd hear.

One old 21" Philips monitor I came across used a high frequency oscillator instead of using 60 Hz, and that one was more of a "bink!" as a result.


Scientific Progress Goes 'Bink.'
 
2018-03-08 02:25:41 PM  
And remember the Apple III and the legitimate troubleshooting step of picking up your computer and dropping it?
 
2018-03-08 02:29:20 PM  
The old Sony 35 word processors at around the same time used vertical monitors. Great for WYSIWIG page formatting with headers and footers, not so great for the spell-check that took a full second to scan a single line.
 
2018-03-08 02:43:54 PM  

Jedekai: I have a Performa from 1996. PowerPC. It was the last good thing AppHell ever made.


I do, too. In fact, I it's in my living room right now. I'm trying to get it fired back up so I can use my $1,000 Nikon SCSI film scanner. However, you may be the only person to ever say that Performa was the last good thing Apple made.
 
2018-03-08 03:16:34 PM  
They really were nice monitors. I miss being able to find a nice grayscale; anything of that nature you can get these days is megabucks since they're all aimed at the medical field.
 
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