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(The Big Lead)   Why doesn't hockey talk translate to sports talk radio? According to experts in the Boston market, the only hockey fans in Beantown are all at the Bruins game, and the non-hockey fans are bored by the sport and tune out until Sox talk returns   ( thebiglead.com) divider line
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2018-03-07 09:17:46 PM  
'Cos after the Celts, the Sox, and the Pats...very few people GAF about the Bruins. This ain't rocket surgery.
 
2018-03-07 09:20:52 PM  
and the non-hockey fans are bored by the sport and tune out until Sox talk returns

That's just how I react when people talk about baseball.
 
2018-03-07 09:59:56 PM  
Is this like DC radio where they only talk about the redskins every day of the year nonstop, no matter the season and then say no one seems to care about the Nats, Caps, or Wizards because no one calls in about them during their constant Skins segments?
 
2018-03-07 10:40:48 PM  
I'm fine with hockey not being much of a draw for sports talk radio.  Sports talk radio is trash and rarely deals with the intricacies of any particular sport.
 
2018-03-07 10:43:18 PM  
Here in Phoenix, people are transplants/fans of other teams or "bandwagon" fans. The stations are at their lowest ratings of the year because all they have to talk about are the lowly Suns. And even with that they'd rather talk college hoops.
 
2018-03-07 11:11:10 PM  
Nobody cares about sports talk radio.
 
2018-03-07 11:55:48 PM  
I listen to NHL on XM quite a bit. The hosts are entertaining and amusing.
 
2018-03-08 12:18:46 AM  
Maybe because the people of Boston have a hard time understanding Canadian accents?
 
2018-03-08 12:51:26 AM  

Lifeless: I'm fine with hockey not being much of a draw for sports talk radio.  Sports talk radio is trash and rarely deals with the intricacies of any particular sport.


You said Gator fans are too scared to call, and I'm calling.  So what do you want to say.

I'm saying when Gators lose, there's never a Gator fan, man enough to call.

Well I'm a Gator fan, and I'm calling.

drunk_bouncnbaloruber: Nobody cares about sports talk radio.


I never got the appeal.  I can talk hockey everyday, but listening to a loud yapping guy who controls the calls with no more insight to anyone I know isn't entertaining to me.  Besides, those shows seem to mostly be rumors about trades and predictions.
 
2018-03-08 02:43:58 AM  
Scott Ferrall on CBS sports radio does a lot of national hockey talk.
 
2018-03-08 02:51:58 AM  

kevlar51: Is this like DC radio where they only talk about the redskins every day of the year nonstop, no matter the season and then say no one seems to care about the Nats, Caps, or Wizards because no one calls in about them during their constant Skins segments?


They talk plenty of Nats and Wiz on 106.7, but the only time they talk Caps seems to be the weekly  hockey show on Tuesday (?) evening. But yes skins still dominate the airwaves.
/please launch the junkies into the sun
 
2018-03-08 04:25:40 AM  
Then there's always the fact that hockey is a minor sport.
 
2018-03-08 04:29:45 AM  
Hockey fans are too smart to listen to sports talk radio.
 
2018-03-08 06:19:24 AM  

John Buck 41: 'Cos after the Celts, the Sox, and the Pats...very few people GAF about the Bruins. This ain't rocket surgery.


I dont feel that way at all. They are at least even in popularity, if not moreso, than the Celts on the south coast of Massachusetts. What I think is actually the case is that the sports radio commentators, except Dale Arnold, don't like hockey or are so ingrained in covering the other three that they don't bother covering the B's.

\And I'm being polite by calling those things "commentators"
 
2018-03-08 08:28:52 AM  

ghostfacekillahrabbit: Scott Ferrall on CBS sports radio does a lot of national hockey talk.


He was actually the voice of the Atlanta Thrashers for a while.  I can't take his schtick for more than 5 minutes.

Proof of, well proof
 
2018-03-08 08:51:15 AM  
Having intelligent discourse on a talk radio show starts with the hosts.  There's your number one problem.  Minihane and Callahan couldn't name 8 Bruins.  They probably couldn't name 15 Patriots.  They're all bark.  Even when talking about Trump the deepest they'll go is to decide how they feel about how Stormy Daniels looks.
Michael Felger gets a lot of hockey calls, because he knows hockey, he knows the Bruins roster 20 deep, and a lot of the NHL.  You get immediate discussion on players instead of fumbling for stats or Don't know/don't care.

The second problem, at least in Boston, is that the Bruins best players are kind of boring - Except Marchand, and it's hard to defend the things he does outside of scoring.  People get excited about Gordie Howe Hat Tricks.  When he was playing well, Lucic was the closest thing to that.
 
2018-03-08 09:03:04 AM  
Pittsburgh radio likes the Penguins just fine. Probably helps that their competition this time of year is a scam that puts profit over winning.
 
2018-03-08 09:06:35 AM  
It's because he's on WEEI and they suck.

The Sports Hub talks plenty of Bruins (not as much as I'd like, but I'm a serious puckhead) so this clown needs to stick to making shiathead comments about women and GTFO.
 
2018-03-08 09:07:24 AM  
The Canadian radio show, hockey central at noon (?), that is also aired on the NHL (tv) channel is a good listen. Former managers or players with a media guy hosting.
 
2018-03-08 09:25:54 AM  
I get more than enough hockey talk during intermissions. If I need to hear idiots yelling about why team X is better than team Y I can just go to HFBoards or read Puck Daddy.

/sports talk radio is the last bastion of soulless people
 
2018-03-08 09:41:40 AM  
Because fights don't translate well into radio. Why else *watch* hockey?
 
2018-03-08 09:58:30 AM  
Growing up in New England (80s/90s), there was a joke that there were 14,448 Bruins fans (the exact capacity of the old Boston Garden), or that their territory only extended to 495 or 128 (basically Greater Boston's outer and inner beltways).

Hockey is plenty popular, but fandom is way more fractured than the other New England sports. They weren't the sole New England NHL team until (relatively) recently. The Whale was Hartford's and once Springfield's team, sure, but they shared a cable network with the Celtics and their coverage was region-wide. They were a minority, but could be found anywhere. There's also a contingent of people of French-Canadian descent that root for the Canadiens throughout the region (growing as you move north) that is more pervasive than the casual "the Expos are my NL team" seen through much of the region. Never saw anything similar for the Nordiques.

This is also an era when the ownership was, well, cheap, and traded or non-tendered or low balled fan favorites or young talent regularly. Whenever I felt a flicker of interest in the B's as a child, they snuffed it out.

I think the Bruins also lose a chance at the casual "likes to go to a game or two a year" crowd because of the other options in the area. Until recently, New England had as many as 8 AHL teams (so over a quarter of the NHL was keeping their best farm team in a single NHL team's backyard) and a full third (20 of 60) NCAA D-I teams are in New England.

So fans are present and satisfied, but wildly fractured, and with the stakes lowered. There's just nothing for a mass audience to talk about.

/Go Terriers, Monarchs, and whoever's playing the Bruins!
 
2018-03-08 10:08:07 AM  
I'm from New England and if it's all the same I tune out after football season because I don't give a frog's fat ass about hockey, I can't stand the Red Sox, the Celtics are fine but I have no major interest.


There, I said it
 
2018-03-08 10:30:26 AM  
Hockey can be big here in Boston. When Ray Bourque and Cam Neely were here, hockey seemed to be as popular as the Celtics, who was the most successful/popular team in Boston then. And in '94 I remember watching the Stanley Cup in a packed bar because people wanted to see the NY Rangers end the curse and finally win it after so long.

As for the Bruins, I'm glad when they do well, but fark Jeremy Jacobs and his penny pinching ways. Had he not been such a miser, probably Bourque and Neely would have won the Stanley Cup here.

Here's a pic of Bourque bringing the cup to Boston in 2001, which he had won with the Avalanche that year:


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2018-03-08 10:35:27 AM  
As a hockey fan, I really do find most other sports boring.
Especially the NFL.  How do you people watch that sh*t?

/penalty
//review
///commercial
////repeat
 
2018-03-08 11:16:36 AM  
But I thought were racist and elitist? You'd think Boston would love a sport so white and rich.
 
2018-03-08 11:31:00 AM  
It works in MN
 
2018-03-08 11:44:00 AM  
Thought: The sport doesn't seem to produce the same kind of personalities and egos as basketball and football. I think the culture of the sport prevents guys from getting swollen heads like that, though that might change with fighting going out of the sport more and more.

LeBron can whine and moan about officiating, other teams' style of play, whatever, and nothing comes of it other than a lot of griping about him on our current spate of opinion shows, talk radio included.

Less so now than before, but still, do that historically in hockey and you're going to either end up sent back over the boards into your bench with the first-possible hip check, or with your jersey over your head and your gloves off trying to carry your right jab high enough against some dude from Medicine Hat.

Hockey might be in the phase right now where it's just boring enough to not be interesting. For better or worse, ESPN basically ignoring it since it dropped their rights hasn't helped. I fear that happening once ESPN inevitably does away with baseball.
 
2018-03-08 11:59:27 AM  

Pfighting Polish: Thought: The sport doesn't seem to produce the same kind of personalities and egos as basketball and football. I think the culture of the sport prevents guys from getting swollen heads like that, though that might change with fighting going out of the sport more and more.


It has nothing to do with fighting and everything to do with the culture ingrained from the moment kids start playing that they should be quiet, not draw attention to themselves, not be "too good" etc. Read about the shiat Wayne Gretzky and Sidney Crosby put up with when they were like, 6.
 
2018-03-08 12:24:44 PM  

ElwoodCuse: Pfighting Polish: Thought: The sport doesn't seem to produce the same kind of personalities and egos as basketball and football. I think the culture of the sport prevents guys from getting swollen heads like that, though that might change with fighting going out of the sport more and more.

It has nothing to do with fighting and everything to do with the culture ingrained from the moment kids start playing that they should be quiet, not draw attention to themselves, not be "too good" etc. Read about the shiat Wayne Gretzky and Sidney Crosby put up with when they were like, 6.


I'd suggest it's all of the above, fighting is part of our culture.  Not a big part, but a part of it.

We've standardized much of development hockey in America, the system tends to weed out the bad actors.  Most youth teams are club sport, not school sanctioned.  So if you want to develop, you have to try out for your team.  Screw up and you're playing shinny in the basement with your little brother for the season.  Coaches don't often like showboats, they're hard to manage.  And every coach is after the exact same thing with their team every season, how many of these kids can I move up to a better team.  If I've got questions about the coacheability of a player, so is the coach who's going to evaluate this player when I attempt to move him up.  I'm judged on my conversion rate, so this is important.  On top of that, the goal in youth hockey is generally NCAA.  NCAA hockey isn't like NCAA basketball.  We require top notch academics and an amazing junior career.  To concentrate on your junior career, it's best you graduate high school at least 2 years early.  Last, showboats tend to get hurt.  If your opponent notices your attitude off the ice, they're gonna do something to rectify it on the ice.  You really don't want that.

Yes, it's because of our culture, but our culture is so much more demanding than most can imagine.
 
2018-03-08 12:51:00 PM  
In Detroit, our sports talk tends to revolve around the host saying something obnoxious and outrageous and getting everyone fired up and angry about it so they can call in and yell about it. It seems that works best when it comes to football and baseball or college sports so that's what they talk about.
 
2018-03-08 01:21:50 PM  
HAS ANYONE MENTIONED THAT HOCKEY IS A BORING-TO-WATCH NICHE SPORT?
 
2018-03-08 01:37:44 PM  

deanis: HAS ANYONE MENTIONED THAT HOCKEY IS A BORING-TO-WATCH NICHE SPORT?


Let me know when game 7 of the Stanley Cup finals is in overtime. THEN I'll check it out. Maybe.
 
2018-03-08 02:04:29 PM  

Tad_Waxpole: As a hockey fan, I really do find most other sports boring.
Especially the NFL.  How do you people watch that sh*t?

/penalty
//review
///commercial
////repeat


Skate, pass, skate, pass, skate, pass, puck goes to other team, puck goes back, maybe a goal.


Yeah, so much more enjoyable

/different strokes for different folks
 
2018-03-08 02:06:42 PM  

natural316: Tad_Waxpole: As a hockey fan, I really do find most other sports boring.
Especially the NFL.  How do you people watch that sh*t?

/penalty
//review
///commercial
////repeat

Skate, pass, skate, pass, skate, pass, puck goes to other team, puck goes back, maybe a goal.


Yeah, so much more enjoyable

/different strokes for different folks


Basketball with 2 halftimes, no teeth, fights, and 1000 turnovers. No thanks.
 
2018-03-08 02:30:16 PM  

NeedlesslyCanadian: and the non-hockey fans are bored by the sport and tune out until Sox talk returns

That's just how I react when people talk about baseball.


I suspect that is how most people under the age of 50 feel about baseball.
 
2018-03-08 02:30:22 PM  

ElwoodCuse: Pittsburgh radio likes the Penguins just fine. Probably helps that their competition this time of year is a scam that puts profit over winning.


Pitt basketball?
 
2018-03-08 04:15:23 PM  

rohar: ElwoodCuse: Pfighting Polish: Thought: The sport doesn't seem to produce the same kind of personalities and egos as basketball and football. I think the culture of the sport prevents guys from getting swollen heads like that, though that might change with fighting going out of the sport more and more.

It has nothing to do with fighting and everything to do with the culture ingrained from the moment kids start playing that they should be quiet, not draw attention to themselves, not be "too good" etc. Read about the shiat Wayne Gretzky and Sidney Crosby put up with when they were like, 6.

I'd suggest it's all of the above, fighting is part of our culture.  Not a big part, but a part of it.

*snip*

Agreed.  Watch "Ice Guardians".  Even the enforcers didn't like getting punched in the face.  Fighting takes the ego out of the game, which is refreshing compared to basketball, where a 7' tall tough-guy falls down to the ground crying if he get's looked at the wrong way.

This isn't soccer or basketball.... if you take a dive, expect to get punched in the face, an unsportsman like conduct penalty, and repeat offenders get fined by the league.

I'm not big on the staged fights, but they have their place.  Fighting in general in hockey though is what keeps the sport under control.  Look at European leagues that have banned it, and the cheap, dirty players that love it there.  They can get away with anything because there are no consequences.
 
2018-03-08 10:03:41 PM  
I listen to Sportsnet constantly here in the US(though I turn it off when they start talking about the NFL because I don't give a fark about it) so I have no idea what this guy is talking about.

Take away fantasy football and the NFL evaporates like cats piss on a hot tin roof. So forgive me if I don't want to listen to expert analysis 365 days of the year on a sport most people don't give a fark about the performance of a particular team, just the few players they were lucky enough to draft from all the teams.
 
2018-03-08 10:09:49 PM  
I was wondering what Toucher and Rich were going on about this morning.

I like Bruins talk, but I can't stand Felger, so I only really hear it on T&R in the morning. Now that Michael Holley is gone, even though he was my favorite guy on WEEI, it seems like Dale and Keefe are talking more hockey.

My girlfriend loves the Bruins, so we have fun watching the games. Often I'll come home and say, "Backes is suspended." She'll say, "I know, it's ridiculous."
 
2018-03-09 03:21:48 AM  

toddism: ghostfacekillahrabbit: Scott Ferrall on CBS sports radio does a lot of national hockey talk.

He was actually the voice of the Atlanta Thrashers for a while.  I can't take his schtick for more than 5 minutes.

Proof of, well proof


His schtick amuses me way too much, at least in small doses. My wife on the other hand would murder me in cold blood if I left his show on the radio on a ride of more than 5 minutes.
 
2018-03-09 03:32:49 AM  

ghostfacekillahrabbit: toddism: ghostfacekillahrabbit: Scott Ferrall on CBS sports radio does a lot of national hockey talk.

He was actually the voice of the Atlanta Thrashers for a while.  I can't take his schtick for more than 5 minutes.

Proof of, well proof

His schtick amuses me way too much, at least in small doses. My wife on the other hand would murder me in cold blood if I left his show on the radio on a ride of more than 5 minutes.


Also, Scotty did deliver one of the wildest, longest anti-Trump rants I've ever heard on national non-political media when during the campaign Trump made his original "those guys want to beat each others' brains in, NFL safety rules are for pussies" comments.
 
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