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2018-03-08 05:42:10 AM  
According to NPR, only 3-6% of sexual harassment cases ever make it to trial. Source

As unfortunate as it is, I suspect he's being treated like everyone else.
 
2018-03-08 07:01:20 AM  

wingedkat: According to NPR, only 3-6% of sexual harassment cases ever make it to trial. Source

As unfortunate as it is, I suspect he's being treated like everyone else.


Hanlon's Razor and all that.
 
2018-03-08 07:09:59 AM  
Now I understand everyone's shiat's emotional right now...
 
2018-03-08 07:22:42 AM  
His civil lawsuit is still pending.

The criminal case, on the other hand, didn't warrant felony-level assault charges, so as they weren't reported within a year of the incident, they exceed the statute of limitations.

This isn't rocket science, people.
 
2018-03-08 07:40:36 AM  
#metoo
#notyou
#manup
#getbackinthegarageandmakemeadresser
 
2018-03-08 07:40:45 AM  

LesserEvil: His civil lawsuit is still pending.

The criminal case, on the other hand, didn't warrant felony-level assault charges, so as they weren't reported within a year of the incident, they exceed the statute of limitations.

This isn't rocket science, people.


Yup. There is no controversy. There is no double standard here. He had his genitals touched once, very briefly because Crews stepped away and stopped it, and someone stuck their tongue out at him.
Not exactly a felony here.
 
2018-03-08 07:52:29 AM  

AlanMooresBeard: LesserEvil: His civil lawsuit is still pending.

The criminal case, on the other hand, didn't warrant felony-level assault charges, so as they weren't reported within a year of the incident, they exceed the statute of limitations.

This isn't rocket science, people.

Yup. There is no controversy. There is no double standard here. He had his genitals touched once, very briefly because Crews stepped away and stopped it, and someone stuck their tongue out at him.
Not exactly a felony here.


Having someone touch your junk is much worse than someone beating off while you're on the phone with them or someone jerking it into a bush in front of you.
 
2018-03-08 08:02:57 AM  

hashtag.acronym: AlanMooresBeard: LesserEvil: His civil lawsuit is still pending.

The criminal case, on the other hand, didn't warrant felony-level assault charges, so as they weren't reported within a year of the incident, they exceed the statute of limitations.

This isn't rocket science, people.

Yup. There is no controversy. There is no double standard here. He had his genitals touched once, very briefly because Crews stepped away and stopped it, and someone stuck their tongue out at him.
Not exactly a felony here.

Having someone touch your junk is much worse than someone beating off while you're on the phone with them or someone jerking it into a bush in front of you.


What if they are touching your junk while jerking off into a bush in front of you, and talking on the phone(headset) to someone else?
 
2018-03-08 08:03:55 AM  

hashtag.acronym: AlanMooresBeard: LesserEvil: His civil lawsuit is still pending.

The criminal case, on the other hand, didn't warrant felony-level assault charges, so as they weren't reported within a year of the incident, they exceed the statute of limitations.

This isn't rocket science, people.

Yup. There is no controversy. There is no double standard here. He had his genitals touched once, very briefly because Crews stepped away and stopped it, and someone stuck their tongue out at him.
Not exactly a felony here.

Having someone touch your junk is much worse than someone beating off while you're on the phone with them or someone jerking it into a bush in front of you.


I agree your example does not equal what happened to Cruz.
But does it equate to rape or murder?
 
2018-03-08 08:04:15 AM  
The guy is an agent.  When did the courts give rights to sub-humans.
 
2018-03-08 08:07:09 AM  

advex101: The guy is an agent.  When did the courts give rights to sub-humans.


You forget that lawyers wrote the laws. They have to look out for their own kind.

/In the first draft of this comment I wrote "jokes" instead of "laws"
//That does have a sort of satirical quality to it I guess
///I need coffee
 
2018-03-08 08:11:30 AM  

TheCenturion: #metoo
#notyou
#manup
#getbackinthegarageandmakemeadresser


#mantears
 
2018-03-08 08:18:02 AM  
guys just need to man up and deal with it. they need to be strong and live with whatever happens to them instead of crying like little babies when their feefees get hurt.
 
2018-03-08 08:22:02 AM  

theflatline: hashtag.acronym: AlanMooresBeard: LesserEvil: His civil lawsuit is still pending.

The criminal case, on the other hand, didn't warrant felony-level assault charges, so as they weren't reported within a year of the incident, they exceed the statute of limitations.

This isn't rocket science, people.

Yup. There is no controversy. There is no double standard here. He had his genitals touched once, very briefly because Crews stepped away and stopped it, and someone stuck their tongue out at him.
Not exactly a felony here.

Having someone touch your junk is much worse than someone beating off while you're on the phone with them or someone jerking it into a bush in front of you.

What if they are touching your junk while jerking off into a bush in front of you, and talking on the phone(headset) to someone else?


I'd be amazed because that's some damn good coordination.

I'm surprised I have that much snark after coming across yet another school shooting story and getting depressed before I've even finished my coffee.
 
2018-03-08 08:23:08 AM  

willfullyobscure: guys just need to man up and deal with it. they need to be strong and live with whatever happens to them instead of crying like little babies when their feefees get hurt.


It's what I did when I was a fat kid and other kids would tease me and play with my moobs.  Sadly, that is a true story.
 
2018-03-08 08:39:54 AM  

hashtag.acronym: theflatline: hashtag.acronym: AlanMooresBeard: LesserEvil: His civil lawsuit is still pending.

The criminal case, on the other hand, didn't warrant felony-level assault charges, so as they weren't reported within a year of the incident, they exceed the statute of limitations.

This isn't rocket science, people.

Yup. There is no controversy. There is no double standard here. He had his genitals touched once, very briefly because Crews stepped away and stopped it, and someone stuck their tongue out at him.
Not exactly a felony here.

Having someone touch your junk is much worse than someone beating off while you're on the phone with them or someone jerking it into a bush in front of you.

What if they are touching your junk while jerking off into a bush in front of you, and talking on the phone(headset) to someone else?

I'd be amazed because that's some damn good coordination.

I'm surprised I have that much snark after coming across yet another school shooting story and getting depressed before I've even finished my coffee.


Not really coordination, one hand on your junk, one hand on is.  I included the headset so they could have the use of of both hands.

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2018-03-08 08:40:09 AM  

wingedkat: According to NPR, only 3-6% of sexual harassment cases ever make it to trial. Source

As unfortunate as it is, I suspect he's being treated like everyone else.


Except that this is assualt, not harassment.
 
2018-03-08 08:43:52 AM  
I wonder if everyone would be so understanding and excepting if he had grabbed a woman like that.
 
2018-03-08 08:47:29 AM  

Lupis626: I wonder if everyone would be so understanding and excepting if he had grabbed a woman like that.


Seems like a lot of people voted for a guy bragging that he did just that, all the time - and still support him. Fine, upstanding people.
 
2018-03-08 08:55:08 AM  

Lupis626: I wonder if everyone would be so understanding and excepting if he had grabbed a woman like that.


They would be if he was Al Franken...
 
2018-03-08 08:57:25 AM  

LesserEvil: Lupis626: I wonder if everyone would be so understanding and excepting if he had grabbed a woman like that.

Seems like a lot of people voted for a guy bragging that he did just that, all the time - and still support him. Fine, upstanding people.


Thats my point. And please believe me I'm not siding with the p*55y grabbing crowed (i cant believe i had to write that).

My point is, assault is assault. The same people who called for his head should be calling for this guys too. IMO
 
2018-03-08 09:11:37 AM  

Lupis626: LesserEvil: Lupis626: I wonder if everyone would be so understanding and excepting if he had grabbed a woman like that.

Seems like a lot of people voted for a guy bragging that he did just that, all the time - and still support him. Fine, upstanding people.

Thats my point. And please believe me I'm not siding with the p*55y grabbing crowed (i cant believe i had to write that).

My point is, assault is assault. The same people who called for his head should be calling for this guys too. IMO


Who says they're not? It's more of a wake up call to the rest of us going "wait a minute, that shiat isn't illegal? The DA isn't going to do shiat?" And yeah, women get the same "respect" from the court system, too. "So sorry, you have to deal w/ it b/c of a technicality." The statue of limitations on rape-rape weren't lifted in California until the Cosby case a few years ago.
 
2018-03-08 09:22:45 AM  

Lupis626: LesserEvil: Lupis626: I wonder if everyone would be so understanding and excepting if he had grabbed a woman like that.

Seems like a lot of people voted for a guy bragging that he did just that, all the time - and still support him. Fine, upstanding people.

Thats my point. And please believe me I'm not siding with the p*55y grabbing crowed (i cant believe i had to write that).

My point is, assault is assault. The same people who called for his head should be calling for this guys too. IMO


The DA isn't saying it wasn't an assault.  They are saying it was misdemeanor sexual battery (touching your junk through your clothes).  The SoL had run out on the  misdemeanor.
 
2018-03-08 09:29:39 AM  

LesserEvil: His civil lawsuit is still pending.

The criminal case, on the other hand, didn't warrant felony-level assault charges, so as they weren't reported within a year of the incident, they exceed the statute of limitations.

This isn't rocket science, people.


Hey look at the big brain on LesserEvil....he's reading articles and shiat.  I know, that's frowned upon by some, but come on, it should at least be a requirement of the subby before he submits a misleading headline.
 
2018-03-08 09:35:08 AM  
I have no empathy or understanding for the agent.

I have no idea how you go through life thinking doing stuff like that is ok.  And I'm a middle age white guy from Oklahoma.  If anyone should be ok with stupid behavior like that it's me just by culture and the age I grew up.

My guess is it has something to do with psychological tools.
 
2018-03-08 09:52:20 AM  

JolobinSmokin: I have no empathy or understanding for the agent.

I have no idea how you go through life thinking doing stuff like that is ok.  And I'm a middle age white guy from Oklahoma.  If anyone should be ok with stupid behavior like that it's me just by culture and the age I grew up.

My guess is it has something to do with psychological tools.


We have lots of tools, here.

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2018-03-08 10:38:00 AM  

advex101: The guy is an agent.  When did the courts give rights to sub-humans.


Agent smith laugh
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2018-03-08 10:38:21 AM  
It's good to give the authorities the first opportunity to take care of the problem.  If they choose not to handle it, they really have nobody else to blame if he stomps the life out of the next guy who gets handsy.
 
2018-03-08 11:59:22 AM  

Fireproof: wingedkat: According to NPR, only 3-6% of sexual harassment cases ever make it to trial. Source

As unfortunate as it is, I suspect he's being treated like everyone else.

Except that this is assualt, not harassment.


I agree that forceful groping of this sort should be considered assault.

Unfortunately, the situation described most often is treated legally as harassment, and it sounds like the judge in this case agrees.  The NPR article I linked included examples of men and women being groped repeatedly as an example of the kinds of harassment suits being regularly dismissed.

What is truly unfortunate about this is that there is no double-standard. Women are not taken more seriously than men by the courts; the courts simply dismiss the majority of sexual crimes reported by men and women.
 
2018-03-08 12:13:36 PM  

wingedkat: Fireproof: wingedkat: According to NPR, only 3-6% of sexual harassment cases ever make it to trial. Source

As unfortunate as it is, I suspect he's being treated like everyone else.

Except that this is assualt, not harassment.

I agree that forceful groping of this sort should be considered assault.

Unfortunately, the situation described most often is treated legally as harassment, and it sounds like the judge in this case agrees.  The NPR article I linked included examples of men and women being groped repeatedly as an example of the kinds of harassment suits being regularly dismissed.

What is truly unfortunate about this is that there is no double-standard. Women are not taken more seriously than men by the courts; the courts simply dismiss the majority of sexual crimes reported by men and women.


The issue is that the law defines "harmful or offensive contact" as the standard in a case like this.  While this is undeniably offensive contact, and falls under the existing law, the law doesn't create a separate, more severe category for sexual contact vs. nonsexual contact.  Instead, it only distinguishes based on degree of contact, and the degree here doesn't rise past the level of misdemeanor battery.

It's certainly arguable that sexual contact should act as an aggravating factor, but at the same time, for every cut-and-dried case like this, there are incalculable numbers of "edge" cases, particularly given how subjective "sexual" can be depending on the person.  Trying to carve out a distinction would likely lead to cases where the parties are arguing back and forth between "it was a hand on a shoulder, nothing sexual" and "I felt their thumb rub my shoulder a little, like they were coming on to me."  There are some fair reasons that the law might not want to deal with that particular shiatshow.
 
2018-03-08 02:49:36 PM  

AlanMooresBeard: LesserEvil: His civil lawsuit is still pending.

The criminal case, on the other hand, didn't warrant felony-level assault charges, so as they weren't reported within a year of the incident, they exceed the statute of limitations.

This isn't rocket science, people.

Yup. There is no controversy. There is no double standard here. He had his genitals touched once, very briefly because Crews stepped away and stopped it, and someone stuck their tongue out at him.
Not exactly a felony here.


Someone can poke your shoulder, and one can make a case that is assault, which is a felony.    Getting your nads touched is definitely a felony.... Crews just didn't act in time.
 
2018-03-08 06:39:12 PM  

JolobinSmokin: I have no empathy or understanding for the agent.

I have no idea how you go through life thinking doing stuff like that is ok.  And I'm a middle age white guy from Oklahoma.  If anyone should be ok with stupid behavior like that it's me just by culture and the age I grew up.

My guess is it has something to do with psychological tools.


He has formally denied it. Due Process wasn't created as a loophole, it evolved from a need for it.
 
2018-03-08 07:21:32 PM  
Crewes should have mashed this motherfarker into a ball and bowled his sorry ass down the street!
/well not really, but he could have.
 
2018-03-08 09:59:25 PM  

T.rex: AlanMooresBeard: LesserEvil: His civil lawsuit is still pending.

The criminal case, on the other hand, didn't warrant felony-level assault charges, so as they weren't reported within a year of the incident, they exceed the statute of limitations.

This isn't rocket science, people.

Yup. There is no controversy. There is no double standard here. He had his genitals touched once, very briefly because Crews stepped away and stopped it, and someone stuck their tongue out at him.
Not exactly a felony here.

Someone can poke your shoulder, and one can make a case that is assault, which is a felony.    Getting your nads touched is definitely a felony.... Crews just didn't act in time.



The DA would disagree with your felony angle. I'm going to go out on a limb here and side with the people who practice law for a living.
 
2018-03-09 03:43:18 PM  
If you are a man, you got to be pretty damn sure of yourself to grope Terry Crews.
That ain't the kind of thing you can play off lightly.
 
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