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(NBC News)   Trump hitman/bagman Michael Cohen says Stormy Daniels lost a double secret private arbitration hearing she was not party to about that agreement Donald Trump isn't party to. Who pays arbitrators?   ( nbcnews.com) divider line
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2018-03-08 01:39:59 AM  
*scratches head*

hmm.  looks like the 'very smart and stable genius' who allegedly runs this country just got played by a porn star and her VERY clever lawyer.

ain't no way outta THIS one Donny!
 
2018-03-08 01:40:44 AM  
This is what an ideal version of the American justice system looks like to Trump and his supporters.
 
2018-03-08 01:54:23 AM  

Cubansaltyballs: This is what an ideal version of the American justice system looks like to Trump and his supporters.


I wonder if its occurred to trump yet that he's already lost on this whole porn star thing?  if Donny wins his case, he admits under oath that he paid a porn star $130k (at the least) and signed an NDA for her silence.  if/when that happens, Donny will not get a moment's peace until he explains to the world WHY he paid off a porn star for her silence, nor will any republican anywhere.  they'll get hammered with that forever, on every issue, non stop 24x7x365.  it will never end.  Not to mention that Stormy can and likely will go ahead and violate the NDA and pay whatever fines are due off the money she's going to make off the TV, movie, book and lecture fees that'll pour in from around the world.  And gods help Donny and the GOP if Daniels has video, or DNA evidence to back up an affair with Trump.

but if Donny *loses* his court case, then Stormy gets all of the above PLUS not paying any fines or dealing with any legal troubles from Donny's scum bag lawyers.  she gets to say whatever she'd like about the affair, and Donny can't do thing one about it.  expect lots of confirmation and giggles about Donny's small penis and lack of stamina in our near future.
 
2018-03-08 01:59:42 AM  

Weaver95: Cubansaltyballs: This is what an ideal version of the American justice system looks like to Trump and his supporters.

I wonder if its occurred to trump yet that he's already lost on this whole porn star thing?  if Donny wins his case, he admits under oath that he paid a porn star $130k (at the least) and signed an NDA for her silence.  if/when that happens, Donny will not get a moment's peace until he explains to the world WHY he paid off a porn star for her silence, nor will any republican anywhere.  they'll get hammered with that forever, on every issue, non stop 24x7x365.  it will never end.  Not to mention that Stormy can and likely will go ahead and violate the NDA and pay whatever fines are due off the money she's going to make off the TV, movie, book and lecture fees that'll pour in from around the world.  And gods help Donny and the GOP if Daniels has video, or DNA evidence to back up an affair with Trump.

but if Donny *loses* his court case, then Stormy gets all of the above PLUS not paying any fines or dealing with any legal troubles from Donny's scum bag lawyers.  she gets to say whatever she'd like about the affair, and Donny can't do thing one about it.  expect lots of confirmation and giggles about Donny's small penis and lack of stamina in our near future.


Trump has a sex tape. I guarantee it. Absolutely, 100% he has filmed himself farking some blond with big tits that's had a million miles of cock through her.

Every narcissist I've ever known and the extreme celebrity versions I've seen on tv, all have filmed themselves farking. Do some, it's because they think they look that good. For the others it's about showing someone else who they farked.

Trump has made one. Whether it still exists is a whole other story.
 
2018-03-08 02:11:35 AM  

Cubansaltyballs: Trump has made one. Whether it still exists is a whole other story.


well, consider this - stormy daniels has been at the porn biz for a fairly long time.  I couldn't say HOW long, but she's been around at least long enough to have learned how to set up cameras and run recording gear for 'hidden camera' style sex scenarios.  she probably even has some of her own equipment.  it would not surprise me if stormy daniels made and kept a recording of her having sex with Donald Trump, and still has a copy stored somewhere safe.  there's a credible possibility of such a thing, at any rate.

if there's a sex tape, Donny has a problem.  not even the GOP can cover for a president on tape having sex with a porn star.  that's too far a bridge even for THEM to cross.
 
2018-03-08 02:22:18 AM  
On that day, Cohen obtained a temporary restraining order against Clifford from the private arbitrator, a retired judge, which bars her from disclosing "confidential information" related to the nondisclosure agreement signed in October 2016, according to a copy of the order obtained by NBC News.

I hope this is illegal. I mean seriously, you just hired a retired judge to say she can't disclose anything, without any legal authority to do so. That has to be some kind of fraud.
 
2018-03-08 02:27:16 AM  

impaler: On that day, Cohen obtained a temporary restraining order against Clifford from the private arbitrator, a retired judge, which bars her from disclosing "confidential information" related to the nondisclosure agreement signed in October 2016, according to a copy of the order obtained by NBC News.

I hope this is illegal. I mean seriously, you just hired a retired judge to say she can't disclose anything, without any legal authority to do so. That has to be some kind of fraud.


no, its entirely legal.  after all, you don't HAVE to sign an NDA and/or arbitration agreement.  thing of it is tho...Donny is President of the United States.  that changes things quite a bit.  assuming Donny shows up in court and wins his case to keep the NDA in place.  well...thing is, even showing up in court causes the white house a lot of problems.  its a de facto admission that Donny paid a porn star $130k to stay silent about....something.  until Donny explains why he paid a porn star a lot of money, the questions will never stop.
 
2018-03-08 02:38:42 AM  

Weaver95: no, its entirely legal.  after all, you don't HAVE to sign an NDA and/or arbitration agreement.


But you do have to be a part of an arbitration for it to be an arbitration.
 
2018-03-08 02:43:40 AM  

impaler: Weaver95: no, its entirely legal.  after all, you don't HAVE to sign an NDA and/or arbitration agreement.

But you do have to be a part of an arbitration for it to be an arbitration.


its something of a grey area.  it would depend on how the NDA agreement was structured.  thing is, trump's lawyer kind of out smarted himself.  see - this sort of thing works great for sketchy businessmen against poor people.  it lets rich assholes leverage their wealth to silence potentially embarrassing revelations by paying off the victims in such a way that they can't talk about what happened without losing a LOT of money and gaining lots of legal problems.

the rules change a bit when the rich asshole in question becomes the president of the untied states.  even admitting to the existence of an NDA with a porn star is incredibly damaging to the white house.  showing up to court means trump admits all of what Daniels says is true.  otherwise, why would he even be there in the first place?  trump defends that NDA, he admits he paid a porn star for silence, and that's it.  he's done.  so is the Republican party.  not even the GOP can back Donny banging a porn star.
 
2018-03-08 03:31:58 AM  

Weaver95: Cubansaltyballs: Trump has made one. Whether it still exists is a whole other story.

well, consider this - stormy daniels has been at the porn biz for a fairly long time.  I couldn't say HOW long, but she's been around at least long enough to have learned how to set up cameras and run recording gear for 'hidden camera' style sex scenarios.  she probably even has some of her own equipment.  it would not surprise me if stormy daniels made and kept a recording of her having sex with Donald Trump, and still has a copy stored somewhere safe.  there's a credible possibility of such a thing, at any rate.

if there's a sex tape, Donny has a problem.  not even the GOP can cover for a president on tape having sex with a porn star.  that's too far a bridge even for THEM to cross.


They obstructed a perfectly valid SCOTUS nomination. I put NOTHING past them at this point.
 
2018-03-08 03:40:37 AM  

fusillade762: They obstructed a perfectly valid SCOTUS nomination. I put NOTHING past them at this point.


which is why I hope Stormy Daniels has a damn good private security firm watching over her and her lawyer.  I wouldn't be surprised if a trumper took a shot at her, or someone tried to blow up her house.

But even that wouldn't stop what's coming.  Trump is about to go on record and defend a secret agreement with a porn star.  that's the sort of genie that can't get stuffed back into a bottle.  once THAT story is out, it's OUT and it ain't going away any time soon.
 
2018-03-08 03:58:00 AM  

Weaver95: Cubansaltyballs: This is what an ideal version of the American justice system looks like to Trump and his supporters.

I wonder if its occurred to trump yet that he's already lost on this whole porn star thing?  if Donny wins his case, he admits under oath that he paid a porn star $130k (at the least) and signed an NDA for her silence.  if/when that happens, Donny will not get a moment's peace until he explains to the world WHY he paid off a porn star for her silence, nor will any republican anywhere.  they'll get hammered with that forever, on every issue, non stop 24x7x365.  it will never end.  Not to mention that Stormy can and likely will go ahead and violate the NDA and pay whatever fines are due off the money she's going to make off the TV, movie, book and lecture fees that'll pour in from around the world.  And gods help Donny and the GOP if Daniels has video, or DNA evidence to back up an affair with Trump.

but if Donny *loses* his court case, then Stormy gets all of the above PLUS not paying any fines or dealing with any legal troubles from Donny's scum bag lawyers.  she gets to say whatever she'd like about the affair, and Donny can't do thing one about it.  expect lots of confirmation and giggles about Donny's small penis and lack of stamina in our near future.


The Derpers, however, will not care - and that's all the republicans are bothered about. Until reality sets in and they lose seats in the mid-terms because the rest of the population will get off their arses and vote.

/who am I kidding? Mueller might be your only hope.
 
2018-03-08 04:17:45 AM  

fusillade762: Weaver95: Cubansaltyballs: Trump has made one. Whether it still exists is a whole other story.

well, consider this - stormy daniels has been at the porn biz for a fairly long time.  I couldn't say HOW long, but she's been around at least long enough to have learned how to set up cameras and run recording gear for 'hidden camera' style sex scenarios.  she probably even has some of her own equipment.  it would not surprise me if stormy daniels made and kept a recording of her having sex with Donald Trump, and still has a copy stored somewhere safe.  there's a credible possibility of such a thing, at any rate.

if there's a sex tape, Donny has a problem.  not even the GOP can cover for a president on tape having sex with a porn star.  that's too far a bridge even for THEM to cross.

They obstructed a perfectly valid SCOTUS nomination. I put NOTHING past them at this point.


They rallied for an admitted pedo-ebo... FARKING TOT-FONDLER and a non-trivial portion of them were okay with that.
 
2018-03-08 04:18:15 AM  
Cats out of the bag on this one.  I dont really see the point in continuing.  D2S surely realizes that everyone on earth believes that the affair took place.

And i, for one, am simply dying for the video to leak out.  Hopefully it will be from a crimean server farm.
 
2018-03-08 04:19:53 AM  

wood0366: fusillade762: Weaver95: Cubansaltyballs: Trump has made one. Whether it still exists is a whole other story.

well, consider this - stormy daniels has been at the porn biz for a fairly long time.  I couldn't say HOW long, but she's been around at least long enough to have learned how to set up cameras and run recording gear for 'hidden camera' style sex scenarios.  she probably even has some of her own equipment.  it would not surprise me if stormy daniels made and kept a recording of her having sex with Donald Trump, and still has a copy stored somewhere safe.  there's a credible possibility of such a thing, at any rate.

if there's a sex tape, Donny has a problem.  not even the GOP can cover for a president on tape having sex with a porn star.  that's too far a bridge even for THEM to cross.

They obstructed a perfectly valid SCOTUS nomination. I put NOTHING past them at this point.

They rallied for an admitted pedo-ebo... FARKING TOT-FONDLER and a non-trivial portion of them were okay with that.


Yeah, it's not like he got a bj from an intern. Now that would be something worth impeaching over.
 
2018-03-08 04:21:22 AM  
I can't believe some of you farkers think *this* is a magic line the GOP won't cross.

Nothing matters. NO. THING.
 
2018-03-08 04:22:50 AM  

CRtwenty: wood0366: fusillade762: Weaver95: Cubansaltyballs: Trump has made one. Whether it still exists is a whole other story.

well, consider this - stormy daniels has been at the porn biz for a fairly long time.  I couldn't say HOW long, but she's been around at least long enough to have learned how to set up cameras and run recording gear for 'hidden camera' style sex scenarios.  she probably even has some of her own equipment.  it would not surprise me if stormy daniels made and kept a recording of her having sex with Donald Trump, and still has a copy stored somewhere safe.  there's a credible possibility of such a thing, at any rate.

if there's a sex tape, Donny has a problem.  not even the GOP can cover for a president on tape having sex with a porn star.  that's too far a bridge even for THEM to cross.

They obstructed a perfectly valid SCOTUS nomination. I put NOTHING past them at this point.

They rallied for an admitted pedo-ebo... FARKING TOT-FONDLER and a non-trivial portion of them were okay with that.

Yeah, it's not like he got a bj from an intern. Now that would be something worth impeaching over.


I'm betting he got the full tour.

/ For $130k, I'd want them to order room service as well.
 
2018-03-08 04:28:50 AM  

Weaver95: if there's a sex tape, Donny has a problem.  not even the GOP can cover for a president on tape having sex with a porn star.  that's too far a bridge even for THEM to cross.


Are you sure?  Everyone in DC on both sides of the isle, as well as most people on the planet, KNOW that he  paid to have sex with a porn star, yet you've got either silence or denial from a vast majority of the GOP.  You've got Evangelicals giving this guy a break on everything they used to stand for.  You REALLY think that having video is going to do anything?  In the public domain, yeah, it's more bad press, but what's it gonna do?  Drop his already low support even lower?  GOP aint gonna do shiat unless it's illegal, and even then, they'll exhaust all resources. to ignore, spin, or lawyer around it.
 
2018-03-08 04:29:34 AM  

CRtwenty: wood0366: fusillade762: Weaver95: Cubansaltyballs: Trump has made one. Whether it still exists is a whole other story.

well, consider this - stormy daniels has been at the porn biz for a fairly long time.  I couldn't say HOW long, but she's been around at least long enough to have learned how to set up cameras and run recording gear for 'hidden camera' style sex scenarios.  she probably even has some of her own equipment.  it would not surprise me if stormy daniels made and kept a recording of her having sex with Donald Trump, and still has a copy stored somewhere safe.  there's a credible possibility of such a thing, at any rate.

if there's a sex tape, Donny has a problem.  not even the GOP can cover for a president on tape having sex with a porn star.  that's too far a bridge even for THEM to cross.

They obstructed a perfectly valid SCOTUS nomination. I put NOTHING past them at this point.

They rallied for an admitted pedo-ebo... FARKING TOT-FONDLER and a non-trivial portion of them were okay with that.

Yeah, it's not like he got a bj from an intern. Now that would be something worth impeaching over.


The hypocracy is stunning all around on this.  The lefties pretty much staked out the ground back in the 90s that personal stuff is personal, and the right staked out tbe impeachment standard.  This gonna be good.
 
2018-03-08 04:34:35 AM  
No one really wants another rehash of the comparisons of his "Weenis".
 
2018-03-08 04:38:01 AM  

hoohoodilly: I can't believe some of you farkers think *this* is a magic line the GOP won't cross.

Nothing matters. NO. THING.


Not exactly true.
If Trump started banning certain types of firearms, or saying it was OK for gay people to be married, or that we need national healthcare, Republicans would be impeaching him yesterday.
He does exactly what they tell him to do.
 
2018-03-08 04:41:20 AM  

hoohoodilly: I can't believe some of you farkers think *this* is a magic line the GOP won't cross.

Nothing matters. NO. THING.


I emailed a Fundy-righty friend about this, and he said that nobody cares about this because, unlike Clinton, it did not happen in the sacred Oval Office."

That's what we are up against.
 
2018-03-08 04:42:57 AM  

LeoffDaGrate: You REALLY think that having video is going to do anything?


yes, I do.  Because if there's video evidence of trump committing adultery and the VERY religious evangelicals actually defend Donny's actions....then their entire mega church loving religion will implode.  oh not immediately of course.  it'll take a few years.  But inside of a decade, there won't BE an evangelical movement in this country anymore.  not after saying it wasn't a sin for Donny to bang a porn star and commit adultery.  I know this because this exact same scenario has played out against various christian denominations AND secular civilian leadership time and time and time again and again and again down thru human history and in every culture and government humanity has EVER created and it ALWAYS ends the exact same way.  the only variables that can affect the decline are time and vast sums of money....but in the end, a religion that gets caught defending open hypocrisy - dies.  Because THAT is human nature.  embrace hypocrisy and get caught, your religion implodes.  period.
 
2018-03-08 04:43:16 AM  
I'm not going to claim that I'm an expert on the arbitration process, but I'm fairly certain there's quite a bit of information/facts not being revealed by Cohen and the arbitrator's "order."

The thing is, if the NDA was never valid, and if the agreement claimed to be between her and Trump and he never signed it or acknowledged it, then I'm fairly certain her attorney is right in that it is void ab initio (never valid).  Real judges tend to look at NDA's of this nature with a jaundiced eye to begin with, given that they are considered to be restrictive of rights and violative of public policy.

Trump is not going to win this one and at some point, the evidence is going to be so overwhelming that he's going to have to fess up or become a laughingstock (more than he already is).
 
2018-03-08 04:44:12 AM  

RosevilleDan: hoohoodilly: I can't believe some of you farkers think *this* is a magic line the GOP won't cross.

Nothing matters. NO. THING.

I emailed a Fundy-righty friend about this, and he said that nobody cares about this because, unlike Clinton, it did not happen in the sacred Oval Office."

That's what we are up against.


f*ck the trumpers.  no - F*CK those guys.  we will never EVER reach them...so don't bother.  instead, make sure everyone ELSE knows Donny f*cks porn stars while his wife stays home and takes care of the kid.  see how well that plays out on the home front.
 
2018-03-08 04:45:34 AM  

lawboy87: Trump is not going to win this one and at some point, the evidence is going to be so overwhelming that he's going to have to fess up or become a laughingstock (more than he already is).


if I understand this whole situation correctly, even showing up to defend the NDA basically means trump admits he has (had?) a secret agreement with a porn star.
 
2018-03-08 04:48:41 AM  
She's just a whore trying to double dip. She doesn't think her story is "something America needs to know." She thinks she got cheated for a measly 130k, when her story is now worth millions, it's as simple as that. I hope she loses and is forced to pay costs.
 
2018-03-08 04:54:18 AM  
There is an argument that if Cohen signed the NDA as a legal representative of Trump, it's still binding.

However, if the NDA is structured that it requires Trump (even under a pseudonym) to sign, it's still farked.
 
2018-03-08 04:54:30 AM  

lando12310: She's just a whore trying to double dip. She doesn't think her story is "something America needs to know." She thinks she got cheated for a measly 130k, when her story is now worth millions, it's as simple as that. I hope she loses and is forced to pay costs.


Heck, if she comes up with video, il contribute to her gofundme.
 
2018-03-08 04:59:24 AM  

hoohoodilly: I can't believe some of you farkers think *this* is a magic line the GOP won't cross.

Nothing matters. NO. THING.


Who cares what they think? Absolutely NO THING depends on them. And NOBODY thinks ANY of them are going to change their mind.
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Normal people start voting again, or America dies. It isn't complicated, and it has nothing to do with the impossible dream of teaching the Deplorables anything - they don't possess the capacity to learn.
 
2018-03-08 05:00:12 AM  

lando12310: She's just a whore trying to double dip. She doesn't think her story is "something America needs to know." She thinks she got cheated for a measly 130k, when her story is now worth millions, it's as simple as that. I hope she loses and is forced to pay costs.


she's already won.
 
2018-03-08 05:02:42 AM  
Some usually-credible sources say there are dick pics. How long before they hit the intrawebs? It could be better than rick-rolling
 
2018-03-08 05:04:01 AM  

anuran: Some usually-credible sources say there are dick pics. How long before they hit the intrawebs? It could be better than rick-rolling


Do such sources have names?
 
2018-03-08 05:08:53 AM  

fireclown: The hypocracy is stunning all around on this.  The lefties pretty much staked out the ground back in the 90s that personal stuff is personal, and the right staked out tbe impeachment standard.  This gonna be good.


And the leftie's take in this isn't "SEX WITHPORN STAR IS IMPEACHABLE", but that he violated campaign finance laws to pay the hush money.

So, yeah.

There are hypocrites, but, once again, no,it'snot 'both sides are bad".
 
2018-03-08 05:08:54 AM  
She's got Trump over a barrel. I know, eww, but still. Cough it up, Donny.

But anyone who thinks this will make an iota of difference to Trump cultists is kidding themselves.
 
2018-03-08 05:13:04 AM  

lando12310: She's just a whore trying to double dip. She doesn't think her story is "something America needs to know." She thinks she got cheated for a measly 130k, when her story is now worth millions, it's as simple as that. I hope she loses and is forced to pay costs.


You want to know what's gonna happen?  If she wins her case, she tells her story, Trump is done.

If she loses her case and is unable to legally tell her story, Larry Flynt or some other uber-rich, unscrupulous dude is going to offer to pay the non-disclosure penalties and say "Go ahead, tell your story."  Trump will be done.
 
2018-03-08 05:13:20 AM  

lando12310: She's just a whore trying to double dip. She doesn't think her story is "something America needs to know." She thinks she got cheated for a measly 130k, when her story is now worth millions, it's as simple as that. I hope she loses and is forced to pay costs.


No comment on Trump the adulterous hypocrite?  Yeah, jog on you farking useful idiot.
 
2018-03-08 05:14:36 AM  

LeoffDaGrate: lando12310: She's just a whore trying to double dip. She doesn't think her story is "something America needs to know." She thinks she got cheated for a measly 130k, when her story is now worth millions, it's as simple as that. I hope she loses and is forced to pay costs.

You want to know what's gonna happen?  If she wins her case, she tells her story, Trump is done.

If she loses her case and is unable to legally tell her story, Larry Flynt or some other uber-rich, unscrupulous dude is going to offer to pay the non-disclosure penalties and say "Go ahead, tell your story."  Trump will be done.


And then Larry Flynt, or Vivid, or Naughty America, or someone will look to recoup those costs by making a porn film about it.
 
2018-03-08 05:16:16 AM  
I'm not sure if this aspect of the situation matters to anyone else, but I'll just throw in my two cents. Homo sapiens has evolved for thousands of years to this precise point. We have gained control over so many aspects of our planet that we're changing its modes of function. We're slowly becoming a Type I civilization. And now, the most powerful nation on the planet, the United States of America, is witnessing this clusterfeck of chaos at its highest levels. To me it's both frightening and comforting. Frightening because any crazy damn thing could happen to all of us, and comforting because this hell isn't sustainable. Maybe it will turn out that our nation cannot continue. We've been so locked into our expectations and world view that we don't understand what others around the world have experienced during our nation's ascendancy: we're out of the global loop. I can only wonder what will happen if we continue to self-destruct from within. I hear Sweden is lovely this time of year. Just sayin.
 
2018-03-08 05:16:46 AM  

fireclown: The lefties pretty much staked out the ground back in the 90s that personal stuff is personal, and the right staked out tbe impeachment standard.


Donny had better be able to prove he didn't break any campaign finance laws while paying off his mistress.

you know what's really gonna rock tho?  watching the GOP try and say that gays are the ones destroying the institution of marriage and the sanctity of the family.
 
2018-03-08 05:18:57 AM  

The Envoy: LeoffDaGrate: lando12310: She's just a whore trying to double dip. She doesn't think her story is "something America needs to know." She thinks she got cheated for a measly 130k, when her story is now worth millions, it's as simple as that. I hope she loses and is forced to pay costs.

You want to know what's gonna happen?  If she wins her case, she tells her story, Trump is done.

If she loses her case and is unable to legally tell her story, Larry Flynt or some other uber-rich, unscrupulous dude is going to offer to pay the non-disclosure penalties and say "Go ahead, tell your story."  Trump will be done.

And then Larry Flynt, or Vivid, or Naughty America, or someone will look to recoup those costs by making a porn film about it.


Heck, they may not even have to make a film about it because they'll consider it 'discretional expense'.

Yeah, it might be a lot of money, but the PR win and The Lulz might be worth it.
 
2018-03-08 05:23:13 AM  

lando12310: She's just a whore trying to double dip. She doesn't think her story is "something America needs to know." She thinks she got cheated for a measly 130k, when her story is now worth millions, it's as simple as that. I hope she loses and is forced to pay costs.


People who want to win legal cases hire lawyers who expect to be paid.
Oh, wait - lawyers who expect to be paid won't work for Trump - just like real banks in the free world won't lend him money.
 
2018-03-08 05:25:01 AM  

fireclown: CRtwenty: wood0366: fusillade762: Weaver95: Cubansaltyballs: Trump has made one. Whether it still exists is a whole other story.

well, consider this - stormy daniels has been at the porn biz for a fairly long time.  I couldn't say HOW long, but she's been around at least long enough to have learned how to set up cameras and run recording gear for 'hidden camera' style sex scenarios.  she probably even has some of her own equipment.  it would not surprise me if stormy daniels made and kept a recording of her having sex with Donald Trump, and still has a copy stored somewhere safe.  there's a credible possibility of such a thing, at any rate.

if there's a sex tape, Donny has a problem.  not even the GOP can cover for a president on tape having sex with a porn star.  that's too far a bridge even for THEM to cross.

They obstructed a perfectly valid SCOTUS nomination. I put NOTHING past them at this point.

They rallied for an admitted pedo-ebo... FARKING TOT-FONDLER and a non-trivial portion of them were okay with that.

Yeah, it's not like he got a bj from an intern. Now that would be something worth impeaching over.

The hypocracy is stunning all around on this.  The lefties pretty much staked out the ground back in the 90s that personal stuff is personal, and the right staked out tbe impeachment standard.  This gonna be good.


Amen! Anyone else remember how brilliant Slick Willy was because he could "compartmentalize" his life? Dude paid 800K to paula jones over sexual harassment and I'm supposed to care that Trump paid a tramp to shut her trap?
 
2018-03-08 05:25:15 AM  

Weaver95: fusillade762: They obstructed a perfectly valid SCOTUS nomination. I put NOTHING past them at this point.

which is why I hope Stormy Daniels has a damn good private security firm watching over her and her lawyer.  I wouldn't be surprised if a trumper took a shot at her, or someone tried to blow up her house.

But even that wouldn't stop what's coming.  Trump is about to go on record and defend a secret agreement with a porn star.  that's the sort of genie that can't get stuffed back into a bottle.  once THAT story is out, it's OUT and it ain't going away any time soon.


You are way too optimistic that anything has any meaning anymore. Fake News!
 
2018-03-08 05:27:18 AM  

RosevilleDan: hoohoodilly: I can't believe some of you farkers think *this* is a magic line the GOP won't cross.

Nothing matters. NO. THING.

I emailed a Fundy-righty friend about this, and he said that nobody cares about this because, unlike Clinton, it did not happen in the sacred Oval Office."

That's what we are up against.


I asked an older woman I know that is a Trumper about what she thought of Trump banging a porn star and trying to pay her off to hide it and the response I got was:

-No big deal, Trump did it before he was married. I told her that he was married and had just had a kid.

-No big deal, Trump is a billionaire playboy and they do this sort of thing.  Then I asked her how she knew Trump was actually a billionaire and she said, "because of his lifestyle." i asked her if she knew how much debt Trump had and got a quizzical dog face in response.

Then I asked her if she could imagine what Fox would have done if Obama had been caught doing the same thing. Her answer was that Fox would be the only one reporting the story because you would never hear about it on the main stream media.

There truly is no convincing these people of anything.
 
2018-03-08 05:31:42 AM  

TheGogmagog: Weaver95: fusillade762: They obstructed a perfectly valid SCOTUS nomination. I put NOTHING past them at this point.

which is why I hope Stormy Daniels has a damn good private security firm watching over her and her lawyer.  I wouldn't be surprised if a trumper took a shot at her, or someone tried to blow up her house.

But even that wouldn't stop what's coming.  Trump is about to go on record and defend a secret agreement with a porn star.  that's the sort of genie that can't get stuffed back into a bottle.  once THAT story is out, it's OUT and it ain't going away any time soon.

You are way too optimistic that anything has any meaning anymore. Fake News!


your 'concern' is noted comrade.
 
2018-03-08 05:34:49 AM  

Officer Barrelroll: There truly is no convincing these people of anything.


so don't even bother to try.  just make sure everyone else who is NOT a trumper knows about the lies, corruption and hypocrisy.  we aren't going to take our country back from the trumpers by convincing them to grow the f*ck up.  you don't become a trumper because you're the type of person who listens to reason.  you become a trumper because you want to rage f*ck something to death.

ignore the trumpers.  just make sure everyone else understands what's going on, and ignore the trumpers as much as you can.  if/when the trumpers DO show up and start their usual bullshiat, mock them for the lies and hypocrisy and show no mercy.
 
2018-03-08 05:38:33 AM  

Weaver95: impaler: Weaver95: no, its entirely legal.  after all, you don't HAVE to sign an NDA and/or arbitration agreement.

But you do have to be a part of an arbitration for it to be an arbitration.

its something of a grey area.  it would depend on how the NDA agreement was structured.  thing is, trump's lawyer kind of out smarted himself.  see - this sort of thing works great for sketchy businessmen against poor people.  it lets rich assholes leverage their wealth to silence potentially embarrassing revelations by paying off the victims in such a way that they can't talk about what happened without losing a LOT of money and gaining lots of legal problems.

the rules change a bit when the rich asshole in question becomes the president of the untied states.  even admitting to the existence of an NDA with a porn star is incredibly damaging to the white house.  showing up to court means trump admits all of what Daniels says is true.  otherwise, why would he even be there in the first place?  trump defends that NDA, he admits he paid a porn star for silence, and that's it.  he's done.  so is the Republican party.  not even the GOP can back Donny banging a porn star.


The NDA is invalid in the first place because Trump never signed it. No signature, no arbitration.
 
2018-03-08 05:40:40 AM  

stirfrybry: Amen! Anyone else remember how brilliant Slick Willy was because he could "compartmentalize" his life? Dude paid 800K to paula jones over sexual harassment and I'm supposed to care that Trump paid a tramp to shut her trap?


I can't speak for everyone here, but for my own part I have absolutely no interest in what you do or don't care about.
 
2018-03-08 05:41:15 AM  

lando12310: She's just a whore trying to double dip. She doesn't think her story is "something America needs to know." She thinks she got cheated for a measly 130k, when her story is now worth millions, it's as simple as that. I hope she loses and is forced to pay costs.


All of this is just a promo tour for the eventual and inexorable video/interview tour/book release.  

Whatever this NDA is, all it can do is impose FINANCIAL penalties on Daniels.  I'm absolutely certain she can repay the $130k plus whatever penalties are in the NDA and will end up a millionaire several times over from what she makes off telling this story, especially if there's tapes (lordy I hope).  That's obviously her motivation.  She's not outraged.  She just happened to blow a tiny orange schlong which by accident is attached to the improbable POTUS.

Nobody expected D2S to win, including D2S or his lawyer.  That situation has tilted the table (damn near flipped it over).
 
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