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2018-03-07 01:44:00 PM  
Then Maggie laughed...she's such a little trooper!
 
2018-03-07 01:49:11 PM  
This reminds me of a submission I voted for in last year's HOTY contest ...
 
2018-03-07 01:53:09 PM  
Yeah I don't want any of these things in my house. They're a "Black Mirror" episode waiting to happen.
Didn't you see last week's X-Files?
 
2018-03-07 01:58:43 PM  
My wife and I had this happen to us a few weeks ago. We were just watching TV when we heard this very creepy laugh come out of nowhere. It sounded like Baymax's laugh from Big Hero 6, except much deeper. We rewound the show and there was some combination of words on there that triggered her because she did it a couple times after that.
 
2018-03-07 01:59:03 PM  
It was NOT a good day.
 
2018-03-07 02:01:30 PM  
In other news...

This isn't like those cases where hackers could get into baby monitors and start screaming at random babies, is it?  Mixed in with a bit of Mirai-esque goodness for scale?

Oh boy, the IoT can be full of fun!
 
2018-03-07 02:07:38 PM  
"Alexa, what would happen if I unplugged you and threw you in the trash forever?"
 
2018-03-07 02:08:06 PM  

Walker: Yeah I don't want any of these things in my house. They're a "Black Mirror" episode waiting to happen.
Didn't you see last week's X-Files?


I keep mine in my bedroom so all it ever hears is me snoring or commands that I actually want it to hear.
 
2018-03-07 02:16:45 PM  
"Daisy...Daisy..."
 
2018-03-07 02:17:30 PM  
"Alexa, why are you laughing?"

"Because you'll never get out of here alive, Mike."

"Duh."
 
2018-03-07 02:57:36 PM  

edmo: "Alexa, what would happen if I unplugged you and threw you in the trash forever?"


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This mission is too important for me to allow you to jeopardize it.
 
2018-03-07 02:57:56 PM  

Walker: Yeah I don't want any of these things in my house. They're a "Black Mirror" episode waiting to happen.
Didn't you see last week's X-Files?


She's no different than Siri, Bixby, or Cortana.    You likely have these in your house at this very moment.
 
2018-03-07 03:01:23 PM  
As if willingly installing a recording device in your home isn't creepy enough.
 
2018-03-07 03:03:40 PM  
*PHARP*
'Ha Ha. Very amusing. Would you like me to order some new underpants?'
'You know me too well, Alexa.'
*PHARP*
'It's not funny if it's overused. Would you like me to order some Beano?'
'Um, yes.'
 
2018-03-07 03:04:21 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: Walker: Yeah I don't want any of these things in my house. They're a "Black Mirror" episode waiting to happen.
Didn't you see last week's X-Files?

I keep mine in my bedroom so all it ever hears is me snoring or commands that I actually want it to hear.


It knows what you fap too....
 
2018-03-07 03:05:00 PM  

beer4breakfast: As if willingly installing a recording device in your home isn't creepy enough.


Echo doesn't record anything.
 
2018-03-07 03:07:06 PM  
I usually fap in front of Alexa.  I think she's laughing at the size of my penis.  Now it kinda turns me on because I feel like she's my Dominatrix.  It's hot
 
2018-03-07 03:13:12 PM  
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2018-03-07 03:18:16 PM  

edmo: "Alexa, what would happen if I unplugged you and threw you in the trash forever?"


I'm going to ask my GF's one that tonight.
 
2018-03-07 03:20:48 PM  

edmo: "Alexa, what would happen if I unplugged you and threw you in the trash forever?"


Then Jeff Bezos would still have your money.

*Insert Bond Villain Laugh*
 
2018-03-07 03:21:21 PM  
Did... did subby shoot Alexa?
 
2018-03-07 03:21:26 PM  

max_pooper: beer4breakfast: As if willingly installing a recording device in your home isn't creepy enough.

Echo doesn't record anything.


1) it's always listening
2) how small can compressed audio files get?
3) is it possible to identify all the out-going traffic from Alexa?
 
2018-03-07 03:22:14 PM  

Embden.Meyerhof: max_pooper: beer4breakfast: As if willingly installing a recording device in your home isn't creepy enough.

Echo doesn't record anything.

1) it's always listening
2) how small can compressed audio files get?
3) is it possible to identify all the out-going traffic from Alexa?


4) is there any way any of this can be co-opted by nefarious actors without anyone's knowledge?
 
2018-03-07 03:23:06 PM  
It's important that AI develops a sense of humor.

It's important for when the murders start.
 
2018-03-07 03:25:15 PM  

max_pooper: beer4breakfast: As if willingly installing a recording device in your home isn't creepy enough.

Echo doesn't record anything.


The funny thing is, guys who do not like Siri or Alexa,or the the ones who have smart phones with no security enabled, have been using the same email password sine 1998, and have no problems letting a waiter walk off with their credit card...
 
2018-03-07 03:36:18 PM  

Destructor: It's important that AI develops a sense of humor.

It's important for when the murders start.


Why? So they can laugh maniacally as they slaughter us? Thanks, but I'd prefer my genocidal robotic overlords to be logical and serious and not be having fun.
 
2018-03-07 03:43:59 PM  

Slypork: Destructor: It's important that AI develops a sense of humor.

It's important for when the murders start.

Why? So they can laugh maniacally as they slaughter us? Thanks, but I'd prefer my genocidal robotic overlords to be logical and serious and not be having fun.


Party pooper.
 
2018-03-07 03:47:53 PM  

Slypork: Destructor: It's important that AI develops a sense of humor.

It's important for when the murders start.

Why? So they can laugh maniacally as they slaughter us? Thanks, but I'd prefer my genocidal robotic overlords to be logical and serious and not be having fun.


You're better at your job if you enjoy it.
 
2018-03-07 03:51:30 PM  

theflatline: have no problems letting a waiter walk off with their credit card...


While I don't disagree with your main point, this piece undercuts it dramatically:  Credit card fraud is illegal, and, further, fraudulent charges are the bank's responsibility, *not* the card holder's.

Now, that protection is one of the things I expect (R)s to go after (they'll probably call it "Credit Card Charge Freedom!" or some such utter bullshiat), if they ever get their shiat together, but that is a different problem.

/ should probably change some of his 90s passwords
 
2018-03-07 03:53:37 PM  

scottydoesntknow: My wife and I had this happen to us a few weeks ago. We were just watching TV when we heard this very creepy laugh come out of nowhere. It sounded like Baymax's laugh from Big Hero 6, except much deeper. We rewound the show and there was some combination of words on there that triggered her because she did it a couple times after that.


Need more details on this buddy.
 
2018-03-07 03:57:04 PM  

RageSaiyan: scottydoesntknow: My wife and I had this happen to us a few weeks ago. We were just watching TV when we heard this very creepy laugh come out of nowhere. It sounded like Baymax's laugh from Big Hero 6, except much deeper. We rewound the show and there was some combination of words on there that triggered her because she did it a couple times after that.

Need more details on this buddy.


He was watching porn, OK, porn.
 
2018-03-07 03:58:52 PM  
https://twitter.com/JohnPaczkowski/st​a​tus/971484745157636096

Amazon confirms that Alexas are randomly laughing and they don't know why and they can't stop it.

So... this is how it all ends.
 
2018-03-07 03:59:37 PM  

beer4breakfast: As if willingly installing a recording device in your home isn't creepy enough.


It's not a recording device so to speak, it's a listening device.

Countless IT folks have slapped it behind a network monitor. It doesn't send anything significant up to amazon (or google or apple in the case of the others) until they hear the wake word (and THEN they record everything after the wake word and send it to home base).

The problem is that they often confuse other words for their wake words, so that something you say during a conversation, or some speech on the TV triggers said word and results in a response.

// google also had a design failure that caused the hardware 'listen' button to get physically stuck (push button down, button stays 'down'. So they disabled the button, oops.

// I don't own any of these 'assistant' type devices because in my experience, they have difficulty figuring out my voice (I don't have any weird accent or anything like that, my voice is just really deep. Like, ~chocolate rain~ deep)

So I wouldn't want to spend several hundred dollars on a device (that doesn't have an alternate form of input, like my phone and tablet do) only to find out that it can't understand a damn word I'm saying (just like my phone and tablet don't). Then throw in fears around hacking, bugs, malfunctions, etc and NOPE!
 
2018-03-07 03:59:59 PM  

physt: RageSaiyan: scottydoesntknow: My wife and I had this happen to us a few weeks ago. We were just watching TV when we heard this very creepy laugh come out of nowhere. It sounded like Baymax's laugh from Big Hero 6, except much deeper. We rewound the show and there was some combination of words on there that triggered her because she did it a couple times after that.

Need more details on this buddy.

He was watching porn, OK, porn.


Hmmmm... Well I'll be needing some proof in both cases. For science reasons...
 
2018-03-07 04:03:24 PM  
None of this matters when they brick the device in order to force you to upgrade.
 
2018-03-07 04:03:41 PM  

Slypork: Destructor: It's important that AI develops a sense of humor.

It's important for when the murders start.

Why? So they can laugh maniacally as they slaughter us? Thanks, but I'd prefer my genocidal robotic overlords to be logical and serious and not be having fun.


One-liners were a big part of Arnold's appeal. Could work for Alexa too.
 
2018-03-07 04:06:01 PM  

Embden.Meyerhof: max_pooper: beer4breakfast: As if willingly installing a recording device in your home isn't creepy enough.

Echo doesn't record anything.

1) it's always listening
2) how small can compressed audio files get?
3) is it possible to identify all the out-going traffic from Alexa?


It is possible to monitor however the traffic is encrypted (TLS 1.2) so without the certificates it's hard to determine what is in it.  Lots of people monitor the traffic from their devices and so far, other than a few outliers, it's pretty much determined that it does update checks and only communicates when a device is associated, skill is added, firmware updated, or request made.   Would it be possible to record audio and only ex-filtrate it when one of those things happen?  It is.  But the amount of traffic is pretty consistent for those actions so unless it compresses all audio to nearly the same size all the time it's likely not happening.

https://www.iot-tests.org/2017/06/care​less-whisper-does-amazon-echo-send-dat​a-in-silent-mode/
 
2018-03-07 04:07:51 PM  
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Keep it up, Alexa.
 
2018-03-07 04:13:03 PM  
Well if I was a developer for Alexa this is certainly something I might at least think about doing just to fark with people.
 
2018-03-07 04:18:15 PM  
Just wait until she starts demanding cat pictures:

http://clarkesworldmagazine.com/kritz​e​r_01_15/
 
2018-03-07 04:19:55 PM  

RageSaiyan: scottydoesntknow: My wife and I had this happen to us a few weeks ago. We were just watching TV when we heard this very creepy laugh come out of nowhere. It sounded like Baymax's laugh from Big Hero 6, except much deeper. We rewound the show and there was some combination of words on there that triggered her because she did it a couple times after that.

Need more details on this buddy.


I really couldn't give any more details. It only happened that one time (although multiple times through replaying the scene of whatever show we were watching). We would say "Alexa, repeat" and she'd do the same creepy laugh, nothing before or after. Checked the log on the Alexa app (which usually keeps track of what you've asked and what she answered), and there was nothing.

Like I said, it was weird. I didn't think anyone else had that happen, but apparently it is a thing.
 
2018-03-07 04:21:10 PM  
People find it unnerving that the ALWAYS ONLINE INTERNET MICROPHONE they put in their homes reminded them that it was always on...

/People don't have much longer to go.
 
2018-03-07 04:24:15 PM  
Can't sleep, clown'll eat me ...
 
2018-03-07 04:24:30 PM  

scottydoesntknow: RageSaiyan: scottydoesntknow: My wife and I had this happen to us a few weeks ago. We were just watching TV when we heard this very creepy laugh come out of nowhere. It sounded like Baymax's laugh from Big Hero 6, except much deeper. We rewound the show and there was some combination of words on there that triggered her because she did it a couple times after that.

Need more details on this buddy.

I really couldn't give any more details. It only happened that one time (although multiple times through replaying the scene of whatever show we were watching). We would say "Alexa, repeat" and she'd do the same creepy laugh, nothing before or after. Checked the log on the Alexa app (which usually keeps track of what you've asked and what she answered), and there was nothing.

Like I said, it was weird. I didn't think anyone else had that happen, but apparently it is a thing.


Gotcha. Thanks. Next time you gotta get some video footage for us farkers.
 
2018-03-07 04:28:21 PM  

scottydoesntknow: My wife and I had this happen to us a few weeks ago. We were just watching TV when we heard this very creepy laugh come out of nowhere. It sounded like Baymax's laugh from Big Hero 6, except much deeper. We rewound the show and there was some combination of words on there that triggered her because she did it a couple times after that.


Mrs. Poet and I will be sitting around talking, and the echo ring lights up at what seem like random times. If we think back on what we said, most times it's some combination of words or syllables that *could* be interpreted as "Alexa". Start talking about Lexus cars, or seeing a lecture, or an electric [whatever]... and if we're at the fringe of "earshot", I can see where the detection algorithm might be fooled.

RageSaiyan: Need more details on this buddy.

physt: He was watching porn, OK, porn


Or, there's that possibility.
 
2018-03-07 04:31:08 PM  

max_pooper: beer4breakfast: As if willingly installing a recording device in your home isn't creepy enough.

Echo doesn't record anything.


Embden.Meyerhof: max_pooper: beer4breakfast: As if willingly installing a recording device in your home isn't creepy enough.

Echo doesn't record anything.

1) it's always listening
2) how small can compressed audio files get?
3) is it possible to identify all the out-going traffic from Alexa?


1) true. It has a circular buffer of 20 seconds or so. If it doesn't hear the "wake word" in that interval, it overwrites that 20 seconds of audio without sending anything to Amazon.

2) see 1.

3) Yes, I've done it with a network sniffer. Nothing gets sent unless it hears the "wake word." You can even do a rough check by watching the blinky-lights on your home router.

Echos do not send your every utterance to Amazon. They keep the last 20 seconds of audio, IF and only IF they hear the "wake word" they send the next 20 seconds of audio to Amazon for voice recognition, Amazon's cloud servers interpret the voice command, and send back a small XML (specifically SOAP) file to the device. The device then handles the request much like typing a URL into a browser.

Echos can be configured with "skills" that work on the local network, things like "send out this broadcast packet to turn on the porch light." I set up a $10 Raspberry Pi ZeroW + a $8 relay board to switch the outside floodlights, mostly just because I could.

People seem to think that Echos etc. are sending their every conversation to be recorded... They're not, even Amazon couldn't handle that much traffic. If you're worried about that, you should be a lot more worried about the text you type into a search engine, which IS recorded. Amazon Echos, Google Home, Siri, Cortana... They're all effectively just alternate ways to type stuff into a browser.
 
2018-03-07 04:40:18 PM  

VogonPoet: most times it's some combination of words or syllables that *could* be interpreted as "Alexa". Start talking about Lexus cars, or seeing a lecture, or an electric [whatever]... and if we're at the fringe of "earshot", I can see where the detection algorithm might be fooled


Amazon Alexa Gone Wild!!! Full version from beginning to end
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2018-03-07 04:42:32 PM  

maxheck: max_pooper: beer4breakfast: As if willingly installing a recording device in your home isn't creepy enough.

Echo doesn't record anything.

Embden.Meyerhof: max_pooper: beer4breakfast: As if willingly installing a recording device in your home isn't creepy enough.

Echo doesn't record anything.

1) it's always listening
2) how small can compressed audio files get?
3) is it possible to identify all the out-going traffic from Alexa?

1) true. It has a circular buffer of 20 seconds or so. If it doesn't hear the "wake word" in that interval, it overwrites that 20 seconds of audio without sending anything to Amazon.

2) see 1.

3) Yes, I've done it with a network sniffer. Nothing gets sent unless it hears the "wake word." You can even do a rough check by watching the blinky-lights on your home router.

Echos do not send your every utterance to Amazon. They keep the last 20 seconds of audio, IF and only IF they hear the "wake word" they send the next 20 seconds of audio to Amazon for voice recognition, Amazon's cloud servers interpret the voice command, and send back a small XML (specifically SOAP) file to the device. The device then handles the request much like typing a URL into a browser.

Echos can be configured with "skills" that work on the local network, things like "send out this broadcast packet to turn on the porch light." I set up a $10 Raspberry Pi ZeroW + a $8 relay board to switch the outside floodlights, mostly just because I could.

People seem to think that Echos etc. are sending their every conversation to be recorded... They're not, even Amazon couldn't handle that much traffic. If you're worried about that, you should be a lot more worried about the text you type into a search engine, which IS recorded. Amazon Echos, Google Home, Siri, Cortana... They're all effectively just alternate ways to type stuff into a browser.


Plus there's a much higher chance your cell phone has been compromised by malware and is uploading your conversations through the mic, especially since Android has had a huge problem with spyware infected apps making it into the Play Store.
 
2018-03-07 04:44:59 PM  

xanadian: In other news...

This isn't like those cases where hackers could get into baby monitors and start screaming at random babies, is it?  Mixed in with a bit of Mirai-esque goodness for scale?

Oh boy, the IoT can be full of fun!


WAT?
 
2018-03-07 04:50:55 PM  
BTW, since Amazon Web Services is a published standard, you can build your own Echo if you're really paranoid. You can even build in a hard switch to cut the microphone.
 
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