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(The Raw Story)   Now why, oh why, would Jared be hiding his business associates? Hmm, could they be from countries that we recently had unusual dealings with of late? I wonder how that came about? Hey Bob, we should ask that Nader fella about them   ( rawstory.com) divider line
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2018-03-07 08:22:14 AM  
i find it both amusing and sad that the party that screams about evil foreigners are the ones selling America out to foreigners
 
2018-03-07 08:38:13 AM  

somedude210: i find it both amusing and sad that the party that screams about evil foreigners are the ones selling America out to foreigners


It's only the poor or hard working evil foreigners they scream about.
 
2018-03-07 08:40:26 AM  

somedude210: i find it both amusing and sad that the party that screams about evil foreigners are the ones selling America out to foreigners


And seemingly, breaking every law in the land in the process and nobody seems to be doing anything about. Robert Mueller and his team excepted.
 
2018-03-07 08:41:11 AM  
For our episode, we contacted Kushner Companies, which said it "is financially very strong," and that "Jared Kushner is not in any way involved in the management of the business." Jared Kushner's attorney's spokesman, Peter, Mirijanian told us that Kushner "has followed the ethics advice he has received for all of his work which include the separation from his business and recusals when appropriate."

He doesn't have to be involved in the management of the business to be compromised as all hell.  All he needs to know is that the business needs money and how much.  When the money comes in, all he needs to know is where it came from so he can direct the public policy to aid its benefactors.
 
2018-03-07 08:44:43 AM  

Archie Goodwin: somedude210: i find it both amusing and sad that the party that screams about evil foreigners are the ones selling America out to foreigners

And seemingly, breaking every law in the land in the process and nobody seems to be doing anything about. Robert Mueller and his team excepted.


where do we begin? The gutting of agencies? The rolling back of regulations? The blatant corruption? The Russia affairs? Stormy f*cking Daniels? Where in gods green earth do we begin on what should be setting us off? We have a tsunami of corruption and graft and we can barely keep our heads above water let alone coordinate enough to oust the f*ckers
 
2018-03-07 08:45:10 AM  

Archie Goodwin: somedude210: i find it both amusing and sad that the party that screams about evil foreigners are the ones selling America out to foreigners

And seemingly, breaking every law in the land in the process and nobody seems to be doing anything about. Robert Mueller and his team excepted.


Part of me likes to believe "the Democrats would do something if they weren't stuck in the minority in each house of Congress." But the realist in me knows that if they make huge gains in 2018, they'll be more than happy to leave Trump floundering in office to seek a repeat in 2020, country be damned.
 
2018-03-07 09:00:37 AM  

somedude210: Archie Goodwin: somedude210: i find it both amusing and sad that the party that screams about evil foreigners are the ones selling America out to foreigners

And seemingly, breaking every law in the land in the process and nobody seems to be doing anything about. Robert Mueller and his team excepted.

where do we begin? The gutting of agencies? The rolling back of regulations? The blatant corruption? The Russia affairs? Stormy f*cking Daniels? Where in gods green earth do we begin on what should be setting us off? We have a tsunami of corruption and graft and we can barely keep our heads above water let alone coordinate enough to oust the f*ckers


It's an epic shiatshow, that's for sure. The optimist in me says this mess is going to take decades to recover from while the pessimist in me says to invest in handbasket futures. Luckily, I have the ability to look on from the other side of the world, but with this new round of trade war lunacy even that might not be enough.
 
2018-03-07 09:04:34 AM  

kevlar51: Archie Goodwin: somedude210: i find it both amusing and sad that the party that screams about evil foreigners are the ones selling America out to foreigners

And seemingly, breaking every law in the land in the process and nobody seems to be doing anything about. Robert Mueller and his team excepted.

Part of me likes to believe "the Democrats would do something if they weren't stuck in the minority in each house of Congress." But the realist in me knows that if they make huge gains in 2018, they'll be more than happy to leave Trump floundering in office to seek a repeat in 2020, country be damned.


I'm less cynical about this than you. Both Sides Are NOT equally Bad.
 
2018-03-07 09:14:50 AM  

somedude210: i find it both amusing and sad that the party that screams about evil foreigners are the ones selling America out to foreigners


Do they have money? Then they are brothers under the skin. Money is the great equalizer. Especially if some of it manages to wind up in your pocket.

Silly Libs. We are in a Post Irony society...
 
2018-03-07 09:23:40 AM  

hubiestubert: somedude210: i find it both amusing and sad that the party that screams about evil foreigners are the ones selling America out to foreigners

Do they have money? Then they are brothers under the skin. Money is the great equalizer. Especially if some of it manages to wind up in your pocket.

Silly Libs. We are in a Post Irony society...


Well those same people who scream about evil foreigners also hate Jared because he's a (((golbalist))) who married a formerly pure, white Christian woman.  They want him out of the White House as much as we do but for vastly different reasons.
 
2018-03-07 09:35:24 AM  
There's probably a perfectly legitimate reason why the company wants to hide those involved.

I mean, it's a long goddamned list of things I'd be less embarrassed to admit than acknowledging that I'm business partners with Jared Kushner.
 
2018-03-07 09:42:44 AM  

kevlar51: But the realist in me knows that if they make huge gains in 2018, they'll be more than happy to leave Trump floundering in office to seek a repeat in 2020, country be damned.


The Dems can't run against Trump if he's not in office.  Trump is the best turn-out machine the Dems ever had.
 
2018-03-07 09:43:19 AM  

MrBallou: kevlar51: Archie Goodwin: somedude210: i find it both amusing and sad that the party that screams about evil foreigners are the ones selling America out to foreigners

And seemingly, breaking every law in the land in the process and nobody seems to be doing anything about. Robert Mueller and his team excepted.

Part of me likes to believe "the Democrats would do something if they weren't stuck in the minority in each house of Congress." But the realist in me knows that if they make huge gains in 2018, they'll be more than happy to leave Trump floundering in office to seek a repeat in 2020, country be damned.

I'm less cynical about this than you. Both Sides Are NOT equally Bad.


It's not so much an "equally bad" scenario. I don't think they're equally bad. But I do think they both want to maximize their party's position. And if the Democrats firmly think they'd better be able to improve their position in 2020 with Trump still around, then I don't think they'll be able to help themselves. Afterall, it's not like a Democratic legislative agenda is going to go anywhere whether it's Trump at the helm or Pence.

Now, if Mueller finds evidence that Pence was knee-deep in collusion as well as Trump (perfectly possible), then that would make things more interesting. Though it's less likely that we'd see a double impeachment and removal, because if the Democrats control the House after 2018, the Speaker (next in line after VP for presidency) would be a Democrat. No amount of morals would convince a GOP senator to get on board with that.
 
2018-03-07 09:53:25 AM  
Now why, oh why, would Jared be hiding his business associates?

Because they're a bunch of crooks.  Next question, please.
 
2018-03-07 09:53:28 AM  

kevlar51: But the realist in me knows that if they make huge gains in 2018, they'll be more than happy to leave Trump floundering in office to seek a repeat in 2020, country be damned.


I'm willing to take that chance.
 
2018-03-07 09:55:28 AM  
NOW the libs are cryin'!!  Right?  RIGHT?!?
 
2018-03-07 09:57:45 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: The Dems can't run against Trump if he's not in office.  Trump is the best turn-out machine the Dems ever had.


The lose that entirely if the gain the Host and appear to stall.  Even if they don't want to impeach, there well be investigations with subpoena authority in every conference room under the dome for 2 years.
 
2018-03-07 09:57:49 AM  

kevlar51: MrBallou: kevlar51: Archie Goodwin: somedude210: i find it both amusing and sad that the party that screams about evil foreigners are the ones selling America out to foreigners

And seemingly, breaking every law in the land in the process and nobody seems to be doing anything about. Robert Mueller and his team excepted.

Part of me likes to believe "the Democrats would do something if they weren't stuck in the minority in each house of Congress." But the realist in me knows that if they make huge gains in 2018, they'll be more than happy to leave Trump floundering in office to seek a repeat in 2020, country be damned.

I'm less cynical about this than you. Both Sides Are NOT equally Bad.

It's not so much an "equally bad" scenario. I don't think they're equally bad. But I do think they both want to maximize their party's position. And if the Democrats firmly think they'd better be able to improve their position in 2020 with Trump still around, then I don't think they'll be able to help themselves. Afterall, it's not like a Democratic legislative agenda is going to go anywhere whether it's Trump at the helm or Pence.

Now, if Mueller finds evidence that Pence was knee-deep in collusion as well as Trump (perfectly possible), then that would make things more interesting. Though it's less likely that we'd see a double impeachment and removal, because if the Democrats control the House after 2018, the Speaker (next in line after VP for presidency) would be a Democrat. No amount of morals would convince a GOP senator to get on board with that.


I don't think the Dems can remove him after 2018 either way, since the Senate cannot be 66 Dems after that election.  If they can get 51 Senators, it stops all his appointments and bills, so it limits the damage he can do, somewhat.  I do think they impeach him if they get the house and show the world all the evidence, and attack the GOP as complicit traitors. That fires up the base, and brings in moderates. ANd having the heads of all the committees stops the farkery that Nunes is doing, and the Cngressional investigations can become far more legitimate, with teeth. No more perjury from Sessions, DeVos, etc.  Showing wild proof of conspiracy and cover-up won't change the GOP radical base who will just lie and ignore it, but it will get everyone else involved and on their side, including non-voters.
 
2018-03-07 09:57:56 AM  

kevlar51: Archie Goodwin: somedude210: i find it both amusing and sad that the party that screams about evil foreigners are the ones selling America out to foreigners

And seemingly, breaking every law in the land in the process and nobody seems to be doing anything about. Robert Mueller and his team excepted.

Part of me likes to believe "the Democrats would do something if they weren't stuck in the minority in each house of Congress." But the realist in me knows that if they make huge gains in 2018, they'll be more than happy to leave Trump floundering in office to seek a repeat in 2020, country be damned.


I don't underestimate the craven cynicism of Congressional Democrats, not in our current context of a bunch of them signing onto the Make Banks Casinos Again Act. But the stink that gasbag throws off sticks to whoever is in power in Congress. If he triggers trade wars, starts actual wars, who knows what else that shiathole will come up with...that makes people with Congress too, whether they have a majority to override what he's doing or not. If they just stand by and say, "See how awful he is?" that could backfire. You may want to sit down for this, but Democrats have a tendency to hate each other as much as Republicans. Throw in some Russian bots, stir, and who knows what happens in 2020.
 
2018-03-07 09:58:06 AM  
Now, let's not all jump to conclusions.  There are very many principled reasons why a company would not want to identify its business partners.  This goes back to bedrock business ethics reasons, and if there is a man who absolutely is a stickler about business ethics, it's Jare.......

Nope.  Couldn't do it.  Kept seeing this dude in my head:

Miller's Crossing: Ethics
Youtube HVUfwUyFXpc
 
2018-03-07 09:59:15 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: kevlar51: But the realist in me knows that if they make huge gains in 2018, they'll be more than happy to leave Trump floundering in office to seek a repeat in 2020, country be damned.

The Dems can't run against Trump if he's not in office.  Trump is the best turn-out machine the Dems ever had.


A weakened and demoralized Republican party would be just as effective when running against a Pence campaign.
 
2018-03-07 09:59:30 AM  
I'd say prison will be hard on Jared, but it doesn't appear we're in the business of actually upholding laws in this country anymore. So we have that going for us, I guess.
 
2018-03-07 09:59:30 AM  

Name_Omitted: The lose that entirely if the gain the Host and appear to stall.


Er... Gain the  House.  Although my original post is much more amusing.
 
2018-03-07 10:00:37 AM  
Over the past half-century, Western societies attributed the narrow definition of economic growth as a path of development. Growth has become an end in itself. As a result, the true meaning of development was lost. Development, and not the ultimate goal, should be viewed as a process of improving the state of mankind and the ecosystem. Using партнеры to overcome obstacles is a well-known fact that Mr. Trump uses all the advantages.
The welfare concept with its multidimensional character is much better suited to describe this improved state. A good, pleasant and cheerful life can not be achieved only through industrial production. Indeed, such a release can easily endanger the well-being of people, which will lead to a deterioration in social relations and the ecological balance on which welfare depends. It is in this case that Mr. Trump превосходит , and we must put up with the positives and not give birth in the mud for this reason.
 
2018-03-07 10:02:36 AM  
The clock is ticking on this guy. Every day it gets worse and worse for him.
 
2018-03-07 10:04:24 AM  

somedude210: Archie Goodwin: somedude210: i find it both amusing and sad that the party that screams about evil foreigners are the ones selling America out to foreigners

And seemingly, breaking every law in the land in the process and nobody seems to be doing anything about. Robert Mueller and his team excepted.

where do we begin? The gutting of agencies? The rolling back of regulations? The blatant corruption? The Russia affairs? Stormy f*cking Daniels? Where in gods green earth do we begin on what should be setting us off? We have a tsunami of corruption and graft and we can barely keep our heads above water let alone coordinate enough to oust the f*ckers


You think it's a coincidence that Trump has been able to avoid prosecution for the various (alleged) crimes he's committed?  Trump and his ilk are professional con-men.  They know the right palms to grease, the right asses to kiss, and the right promises to make.
Sure, Mueller may present damning evidence against Trump and his corrupt business associates, but it's up to Republicans to make the first move.  Unfortunately, we have seen time and again, that Republicans will "circle the wagons" around Trump no matter the situation. Hell, the US Dept of Special Counsel showed Conway was in clear violation of the Hatch Act, and it was a resounding "Meh" from the GOP.  Party before country every time.
 
2018-03-07 10:04:54 AM  

ValisIV: kevlar51: MrBallou: kevlar51: Archie Goodwin: somedude210: i find it both amusing and sad that the party that screams about evil foreigners are the ones selling America out to foreigners

And seemingly, breaking every law in the land in the process and nobody seems to be doing anything about. Robert Mueller and his team excepted.

Part of me likes to believe "the Democrats would do something if they weren't stuck in the minority in each house of Congress." But the realist in me knows that if they make huge gains in 2018, they'll be more than happy to leave Trump floundering in office to seek a repeat in 2020, country be damned.

I'm less cynical about this than you. Both Sides Are NOT equally Bad.

It's not so much an "equally bad" scenario. I don't think they're equally bad. But I do think they both want to maximize their party's position. And if the Democrats firmly think they'd better be able to improve their position in 2020 with Trump still around, then I don't think they'll be able to help themselves. Afterall, it's not like a Democratic legislative agenda is going to go anywhere whether it's Trump at the helm or Pence.

Now, if Mueller finds evidence that Pence was knee-deep in collusion as well as Trump (perfectly possible), then that would make things more interesting. Though it's less likely that we'd see a double impeachment and removal, because if the Democrats control the House after 2018, the Speaker (next in line after VP for presidency) would be a Democrat. No amount of morals would convince a GOP senator to get on board with that.

I don't think the Dems can remove him after 2018 either way, since the Senate cannot be 66 Dems after that election.  If they can get 51 Senators, it stops all his appointments and bills, so it limits the damage he can do, somewhat.  I do think they impeach him if they get the house and show the world all the evidence, and attack the GOP as complicit traitors. That fires up the base, and brings in moderates. ANd having the heads of all the committees stops the farkery that Nunes is doing, and the Cngressional investigations can become far more legitimate, with teeth. No more perjury from Sessions, DeVos, etc.  Showing wild proof of conspiracy and cover-up won't change the GOP radical base who will just lie and ignore it, but it will get everyone else involved and on their side, including non-voters.


I'm not sure impeachment without removal is necessarily politically prudent. It sends the message to ignorant voters that the impeaching party was "wrong after all."

In this case I think I agree that it's worth the gamble. Because otherwise Dems can be accused of "doing nothing."

Plus as an added bonus, impeachment trials aren't subject to the same rules of evidence as a courtroom trial. So you can get a whole lot more information into the public record that can be used against him later in a legitimate criminal trial.
 
2018-03-07 10:05:08 AM  

somedude210: i find it both amusing and sad that the party that screams about evil foreigners are the ones selling America out to foreigners


it's ok, they're WHITE Russians
 
2018-03-07 10:08:32 AM  

kevlar51: Archie Goodwin: somedude210: i find it both amusing and sad that the party that screams about evil foreigners are the ones selling America out to foreigners

And seemingly, breaking every law in the land in the process and nobody seems to be doing anything about. Robert Mueller and his team excepted.

Part of me likes to believe "the Democrats would do something if they weren't stuck in the minority in each house of Congress." But the realist in me knows that if they make huge gains in 2018, they'll be more than happy to leave Trump floundering in office to seek a repeat in 2020, country be damned.


Are you seriously BSABing right now? fark off Dmitry.
 
2018-03-07 10:09:21 AM  

kevlar51: Archie Goodwin: somedude210: i find it both amusing and sad that the party that screams about evil foreigners are the ones selling America out to foreigners

And seemingly, breaking every law in the land in the process and nobody seems to be doing anything about. Robert Mueller and his team excepted.

Part of me likes to believe "the Democrats would do something if they weren't stuck in the minority in each house of Congress." But the realist in me knows that if they make huge gains in 2018, they'll be more than happy to leave Trump floundering in office to seek a repeat in 2020, country be damned.


Has someone called you wrong yet, because that comment was stupid.
 
2018-03-07 10:11:48 AM  

snowshovel: Over the past half-century, Western societies attributed the narrow definition of economic growth as a path of development. Growth has become an end in itself. As a result, the true meaning of development was lost. Development, and not the ultimate goal, should be viewed as a process of improving the state of mankind and the ecosystem. Using партнеры to overcome obstacles is a well-known fact that Mr. Trump uses all the advantages.
The welfare concept with its multidimensional character is much better suited to describe this improved state. A good, pleasant and cheerful life can not be achieved only through industrial production. Indeed, such a release can easily endanger the well-being of people, which will lead to a deterioration in social relations and the ecological balance on which welfare depends. It is in this case that Mr. Trump превосходит , and we must put up with the positives and not give birth in the mud for this reason.


That boy, I say that boy makes about as much sense as a stripper at a tea party. Ladies don't like it and the stripper gets no tips, ya see.
 
2018-03-07 10:12:25 AM  

somedude210: i find it both amusing and sad that the party that screams about evil foreigners are the ones selling America out to foreigners


The supranational global elite are not foreigners. They belong to every country and no country all at once.
 
2018-03-07 10:13:43 AM  

kevlar51: MrBallou: kevlar51: Archie Goodwin: somedude210: i find it both amusing and sad that the party that screams about evil foreigners are the ones selling America out to foreigners

And seemingly, breaking every law in the land in the process and nobody seems to be doing anything about. Robert Mueller and his team excepted.

Part of me likes to believe "the Democrats would do something if they weren't stuck in the minority in each house of Congress." But the realist in me knows that if they make huge gains in 2018, they'll be more than happy to leave Trump floundering in office to seek a repeat in 2020, country be damned.

I'm less cynical about this than you. Both Sides Are NOT equally Bad.

It's not so much an "equally bad" scenario. I don't think they're equally bad. But I do think they both want to maximize their party's position. And if the Democrats firmly think they'd better be able to improve their position in 2020 with Trump still around, then I don't think they'll be able to help themselves. Afterall, it's not like a Democratic legislative agenda is going to go anywhere whether it's Trump at the helm or Pence.

Now, if Mueller finds evidence that Pence was knee-deep in collusion as well as Trump (perfectly possible), then that would make things more interesting. Though it's less likely that we'd see a double impeachment and removal, because if the Democrats control the House after 2018, the Speaker (next in line after VP for presidency) would be a Democrat. No amount of morals would convince a GOP senator to get on board with that.


Do you think the democrats will have 67 Senate seats in January 2019? Because they will need 67 Senate seats to get rid of the republican president.

Such concern.
 
2018-03-07 10:14:08 AM  
It's Hillary's fault for not winning.

/post hoc ergo derper hoc
 
2018-03-07 10:14:22 AM  
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It's Washington, DC. Not Washington, New Jersey. Or Washington, Florida. Or Washington, Russia.

Make a good plea deal. Then when you go to prison, make sure you attack someone so you get permanent isolation. Otherwise, you'll be gutted by a Black Russian or a White Russian or maybe a Mexican Russian.
 
2018-03-07 10:15:52 AM  

The Drawing Board: kevlar51: MrBallou: kevlar51: Archie Goodwin: somedude210: i find it both amusing and sad that the party that screams about evil foreigners are the ones selling America out to foreigners

And seemingly, breaking every law in the land in the process and nobody seems to be doing anything about. Robert Mueller and his team excepted.

Part of me likes to believe "the Democrats would do something if they weren't stuck in the minority in each house of Congress." But the realist in me knows that if they make huge gains in 2018, they'll be more than happy to leave Trump floundering in office to seek a repeat in 2020, country be damned.

I'm less cynical about this than you. Both Sides Are NOT equally Bad.

It's not so much an "equally bad" scenario. I don't think they're equally bad. But I do think they both want to maximize their party's position. And if the Democrats firmly think they'd better be able to improve their position in 2020 with Trump still around, then I don't think they'll be able to help themselves. Afterall, it's not like a Democratic legislative agenda is going to go anywhere whether it's Trump at the helm or Pence.

Now, if Mueller finds evidence that Pence was knee-deep in collusion as well as Trump (perfectly possible), then that would make things more interesting. Though it's less likely that we'd see a double impeachment and removal, because if the Democrats control the House after 2018, the Speaker (next in line after VP for presidency) would be a Democrat. No amount of morals would convince a GOP senator to get on board with that.

Do you think the democrats will have 67 Senate seats in January 2019? Because they will need 67 Senate seats to get rid of the republican president.

Such concern.


Nope. Hence my line at the end about GOP Senators being on board.
 
2018-03-07 10:18:45 AM  
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2018-03-07 10:19:01 AM  

snowshovel: Over the past half-century, Western societies attributed the narrow definition of economic growth as a path of development. Growth has become an end in itself. As a result, the true meaning of development was lost. Development, and not the ultimate goal, should be viewed as a process of improving the state of mankind and the ecosystem. Using партнеры to overcome obstacles is a well-known fact that Mr. Trump uses all the advantages.
The welfare concept with its multidimensional character is much better suited to describe this improved state. A good, pleasant and cheerful life can not be achieved only through industrial production. Indeed, such a release can easily endanger the well-being of people, which will lead to a deterioration in social relations and the ecological balance on which welfare depends. It is in this case that Mr. Trump превосходит , and we must put up with the positives and not give birth in the mud for this reason.


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2018-03-07 10:19:16 AM  

Tax Boy: it's ok, they're WHITE Russians


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2018-03-07 10:20:41 AM  
At least we learned an important lesson, "Just because someone is wealthy, doesn't mean that they cannot be corrupt as well"
 
2018-03-07 10:23:16 AM  

Shaggy_C: The supranational global elite are not foreigners. They belong to every country and no country all at once.


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You have meddled with the primal forces of nature, and YOU WILL ATONE!
 
2018-03-07 10:25:19 AM  

kevlar51: ValisIV: kevlar51: MrBallou: kevlar51: Archie Goodwin: somedude210: i find it both amusing and sad that the party that screams about evil foreigners are the ones selling America out to foreigners

And seemingly, breaking every law in the land in the process and nobody seems to be doing anything about. Robert Mueller and his team excepted.

Part of me likes to believe "the Democrats would do something if they weren't stuck in the minority in each house of Congress." But the realist in me knows that if they make huge gains in 2018, they'll be more than happy to leave Trump floundering in office to seek a repeat in 2020, country be damned.

I'm less cynical about this than you. Both Sides Are NOT equally Bad.

It's not so much an "equally bad" scenario. I don't think they're equally bad. But I do think they both want to maximize their party's position. And if the Democrats firmly think they'd better be able to improve their position in 2020 with Trump still around, then I don't think they'll be able to help themselves. Afterall, it's not like a Democratic legislative agenda is going to go anywhere whether it's Trump at the helm or Pence.

Now, if Mueller finds evidence that Pence was knee-deep in collusion as well as Trump (perfectly possible), then that would make things more interesting. Though it's less likely that we'd see a double impeachment and removal, because if the Democrats control the House after 2018, the Speaker (next in line after VP for presidency) would be a Democrat. No amount of morals would convince a GOP senator to get on board with that.

I don't think the Dems can remove him after 2018 either way, since the Senate cannot be 66 Dems after that election.  If they can get 51 Senators, it stops all his appointments and bills, so it limits the damage he can do, somewhat.  I do think they impeach him if they get the house and show the world all the evidence, and attack the GOP as complicit traitors. That fires up the base, and brings in moderates. ANd ...


I don't know why the Democrats refuse to enact en mass tax cuts for the rich, environmental and business deregulation, aggressive attacks on minorities and undocumented people, aggressive attacks on abortion, aggressive attacks on gays, legalizing carrying semi-automatic rifles in schools, and conspiracy with Russia.

I bet just because they want to see Republican fail just for political gain.
 
2018-03-07 10:28:10 AM  

kevlar51: The Drawing Board: kevlar51: MrBallou: kevlar51: Archie Goodwin: somedude210: i find it both amusing and sad that the party that screams about evil foreigners are the ones selling America out to foreigners

And seemingly, breaking every law in the land in the process and nobody seems to be doing anything about. Robert Mueller and his team excepted.

Part of me likes to believe "the Democrats would do something if they weren't stuck in the minority in each house of Congress." But the realist in me knows that if they make huge gains in 2018, they'll be more than happy to leave Trump floundering in office to seek a repeat in 2020, country be damned.

I'm less cynical about this than you. Both Sides Are NOT equally Bad.

It's not so much an "equally bad" scenario. I don't think they're equally bad. But I do think they both want to maximize their party's position. And if the Democrats firmly think they'd better be able to improve their position in 2020 with Trump still around, then I don't think they'll be able to help themselves. Afterall, it's not like a Democratic legislative agenda is going to go anywhere whether it's Trump at the helm or Pence.

Now, if Mueller finds evidence that Pence was knee-deep in collusion as well as Trump (perfectly possible), then that would make things more interesting. Though it's less likely that we'd see a double impeachment and removal, because if the Democrats control the House after 2018, the Speaker (next in line after VP for presidency) would be a Democrat. No amount of morals would convince a GOP senator to get on board with that.

Do you think the democrats will have 67 Senate seats in January 2019? Because they will need 67 Senate seats to get rid of the republican president.

Such concern.

Nope. Hence my line at the end about GOP Senators being on board.


Interesting that we're all completely at ease assuming that all the GOP Senators will stand with Trump no matter how bad the crimes he's proven guilty of turn out to be.

There was a time when you could reasonably expect at least some of them would do the right thing instead of the Party thing, but those times are long gone.
 
2018-03-07 10:28:26 AM  

snowshovel: Over the past half-century, Western societies attributed the narrow definition of economic growth as a path of development. Growth has become an end in itself. As a result, the true meaning of development was lost. Development, and not the ultimate goal, should be viewed as a process of improving the state of mankind and the ecosystem. Using партнеры to overcome obstacles is a well-known fact that Mr. Trump uses all the advantages.
The welfare concept with its multidimensional character is much better suited to describe this improved state. A good, pleasant and cheerful life can not be achieved only through industrial production. Indeed, such a release can easily endanger the well-being of people, which will lead to a deterioration in social relations and the ecological balance on which welfare depends. It is in this case that Mr. Trump превосходит , and we must put up with the positives and not give birth in the mud for this reason.


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2018-03-07 10:29:55 AM  
Today is shaping up to be a fun one.  Stormy Daniels is suing the president, George Nader is cooperating with Mueller, Jared's financial house of cards is burning, Republican divisions in Mississippi are giving Yertle headaches, Cohn resigned, Mueller's looking at Mickey Cohen, Conway violated the Hatch Act, and Trump just learned you can't sell shiat with the Presidential Seal* on it.  But there's no chaos, thank goodness.

*More like Presidential Manatee with this farking guy, amirite?  Wink, wink, nudge nudge.  Yuks.

/Too many threads to follow cuz there's too many clowns in this circus
 
2018-03-07 10:32:01 AM  
Not sure what the Nader reference is.  Though Kushner is unsafe at any speed.
 
2018-03-07 10:37:32 AM  

Tax Boy: somedude210: i find it both amusing and sad that the party that screams about evil foreigners are the ones selling America out to foreigners

it's ok, they're WHITE Russians


also Chinese, Turks, and Arabs
 
2018-03-07 10:38:14 AM  
Bazolar:
*More like Presidential Manatee with this farking guy, amirite?  Wink, wink, nudge nudge.  Yuks.

Presidential Manatee in.... novelty tees?


/what's "come at me, bro"?
 
2018-03-07 10:39:01 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: kevlar51: But the realist in me knows that if they make huge gains in 2018, they'll be more than happy to leave Trump floundering in office to seek a repeat in 2020, country be damned.

The Dems can't run against Trump if he's not in office.  Trump is the best turn-out machine the Dems ever had.


The real cynic in me can make the case that the DNC would consider throwing the presidential election in 2020 to buy two more election cycles for House and Senate seats.
 
2018-03-07 10:41:08 AM  

lilbjorn: Not sure what the Nader reference is.  Though Kushner is unsafe at any speed.


The Nadar they are referring to in the headline works for United Arab Emirates, who helped blockade Qatar last year, pay for Erik Prince's newest private army, are trying to exploit/compromise Kushner, and setup the secret Erik Prince-Russia meeting in Seychelles (which is also a money laundering hot spot) a week before inauguration.
 
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