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2018-03-07 06:22:15 AM  
Good.
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2018-03-07 06:48:17 AM  
Wishing Furie the best of luck.
 
2018-03-07 06:49:14 AM  
He's won his previous cases regarding Pepe so I'm assuming he'll win this one.
 
2018-03-07 06:53:21 AM  
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2018-03-07 07:03:59 AM  
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2018-03-07 07:07:00 AM  

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I made that face this morning while trying to poop.

Everything eventually worked out.
 
2018-03-07 07:10:46 AM  
The poster shows the "heroes of the 2016 anti-establishment revolution," including President Trump, Kellyanne Conway, Milo Yiannopoulos, Roger Stone, Matt Drudge, Infowars creator Alex Jones and Pepe.

You could have stuck a camera down any city sewer line and gotten the same picture without running afoul of any trademark infringement.
 
2018-03-07 07:20:31 AM  
 "I don't know who their leader is, it just seems like a loose network of nihilistic guys posting white power symbols."

Say what you will, but it's an ethos
 
2018-03-07 07:22:20 AM  
I hope Alex takes it right in the nuts over this. His margins are pretty slim from what I hear, and he has practically no sponsors left after the Sandy Hook debacle.

I hope Furie goes for max punitive and tries for millions, it would put his crazy ass out of business.
 
2018-03-07 07:24:07 AM  
Michigan J. Frog v Pepe the Frog
Michigan J. Frog vs. Pepe the Frog
Youtube N2thIPZEA9g
 
2018-03-07 07:29:17 AM  

Inebriated Bolshevik Muppet: I hope Alex takes it right in the nuts over this. His margins are pretty slim from what I hear, and he has practically no sponsors left after the Sandy Hook debacle.

I hope Furie goes for max punitive and tries for millions, it would put his crazy ass out of business.


I don't think he has any basis to sue for millions, unless he can show that he was likely to earn something from Pepe, before the character was arguably ruined.

But all the money from the merchandise + court costs + Alex Jones having to pay his own lawyers
 
2018-03-07 07:34:27 AM  
He's charging $30 for the poster, presumably he can prove that Jones has profited. Not to mention the fact that this isn't the first time he has sued someone and won for using Pepe. A children's book, pins, T-Shirts, that history alone is proof enough of the fact that the IP is still profitable.

Add that on top of Jones' behavior after receiving notice, and there's a real case for punitive damages. Especially from someone who should objectively know better, which Alex would be considered to be what with his reliance on his own copyright.

Were I in Furie's ear I'd tell him to go full scorched earth.
 
2018-03-07 07:45:04 AM  
And all this will just fuel more conspiracy theories:

"Lol they can't get Jones on anything substantial because EVERYTHING HE SAYS IS TRUE! Just trying to silence him over some trumped up copyright claim!"
 
2018-03-07 07:54:27 AM  

Niveras: And all this will just fuel more conspiracy theories:

"Lol they can't get Jones on anything substantial because EVERYTHING HE SAYS IS TRUE! Just trying to silence him over some trumped up copyright claim!"


I just hope he hasn't bought into his own crazy enough to result in a CoC. I guarantee someone will go on a shooting spree.
 
2018-03-07 08:32:28 AM  
I wonder if this will be the third YouTube strike against Jones (if that was even true):  copyright infringement is something they really frown upon.
 
2018-03-07 08:34:45 AM  

Inebriated Bolshevik Muppet: I hope Alex takes it right in the nuts over this. His margins are pretty slim from what I hear, and he has practically no sponsors left after the Sandy Hook debacle.

I hope Furie goes for max punitive and tries for millions, it would put his crazy ass out of business.


How so? Dude made it public domain.
 
2018-03-07 08:42:54 AM  

HumanSVD: Inebriated Bolshevik Muppet: I hope Alex takes it right in the nuts over this. His margins are pretty slim from what I hear, and he has practically no sponsors left after the Sandy Hook debacle.

I hope Furie goes for max punitive and tries for millions, it would put his crazy ass out of business.

How so? Dude made it public domain.


No, he didn't.

No cartoonist ever relinquishes copyright, it's their one handhold they have on royalties. Without it, any contract they sign would just get laughed at.
 
2018-03-07 08:46:05 AM  

HumanSVD: Inebriated Bolshevik Muppet: I hope Alex takes it right in the nuts over this. His margins are pretty slim from what I hear, and he has practically no sponsors left after the Sandy Hook debacle.

I hope Furie goes for max punitive and tries for millions, it would put his crazy ass out of business.

How so? Dude made it public domain.


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2018-03-07 08:56:31 AM  
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2018-03-07 09:04:02 AM  
"That's total fair use, that's total freedom of speech, it's political speech, it's totally protected," Jones says in the video.
As of now, the poster is still available on the Infowars store, with this description: "The establishment wants this taken down."


No, that's someone else's intellectual property that you are trying to profit off of, 30 bucks per poster.
 
2018-03-07 09:16:23 AM  

HumanSVD: Inebriated Bolshevik Muppet: I hope Alex takes it right in the nuts over this. His margins are pretty slim from what I hear, and he has practically no sponsors left after the Sandy Hook debacle.

I hope Furie goes for max punitive and tries for millions, it would put his crazy ass out of business.

How so? Dude made it public domain.


He did nothing of the sort.

I hope Furie donates the proceeds to Antifa's legal defense fund.
 
2018-03-07 09:22:21 AM  
If Jones had any lick of common sense left he would have instantly complied with the C&D letter and begged to settle. This defiance shows he's a bigger fool than Trump.

In any court setting, he's going to lose. Bigly.
 
2018-03-07 09:22:56 AM  

Millennium: HumanSVD: Inebriated Bolshevik Muppet: I hope Alex takes it right in the nuts over this. His margins are pretty slim from what I hear, and he has practically no sponsors left after the Sandy Hook debacle.

I hope Furie goes for max punitive and tries for millions, it would put his crazy ass out of business.

How so? Dude made it public domain.

He did nothing of the sort.

I hope Furie donates the proceeds to Antifa's legal defense fund.


He's been donating mostly to the ADL afaik.
 
2018-03-07 09:28:00 AM  

Pin Fiften Clob: Millennium: HumanSVD: Inebriated Bolshevik Muppet: I hope Alex takes it right in the nuts over this. His margins are pretty slim from what I hear, and he has practically no sponsors left after the Sandy Hook debacle.

I hope Furie goes for max punitive and tries for millions, it would put his crazy ass out of business.

How so? Dude made it public domain.

He did nothing of the sort.

I hope Furie donates the proceeds to Antifa's legal defense fund.

He's been donating mostly to the ADL afaik.


He made the author of that god-awful childrens book donate the proceeds to the Council on American-Islamic Relations. This guy knows how to make it sting.

And also, to date, apparently he's settled all of his cases on the eve of the court date. Apparently they had smarter lawyers than Jones does.
 
2018-03-07 09:36:33 AM  
Give em hell, Furie. Pepe never deserved this
 
2018-03-07 09:44:56 AM  
Sadly, a big court loss wouldn't shut down his podcast. If you have an internet connection and a $50 laptop from a pawn shop you too can have a podcast. Probably including video! A web site would be super cheap if not free as well.

Hell, in theory Jones could be homeless yet still record his podcast. He could scream it into a cheap, deactivated smartphone and upload it at the public library.

Jones almost certainly would keep doing that hate screed of his too, even if he was somehow forbidden from making money off of it. I'm sure he loves loves loves the money, but he'd be screaming those rants for free if he had to.
 
2018-03-07 09:56:18 AM  

Riche: Sadly, a big court loss wouldn't shut down his podcast. If you have an internet connection and a $50 laptop from a pawn shop you too can have a podcast. Probably including video! A web site would be super cheap if not free as well.

Hell, in theory Jones could be homeless yet still record his podcast. He could scream it into a cheap, deactivated smartphone and upload it at the public library.

Jones almost certainly would keep doing that hate screed of his too, even if he was somehow forbidden from making money off of it. I'm sure he loves loves loves the money, but he'd be screaming those rants for free if he had to.


Without at least a couple grand in revenue per month to keep the requisite bandwidth running to his studio (which could easily be in his house, yes) and the needed kW/h to keep the cameras and computers running, the only venue he's broadcasting to is Youtube. And he wouldn't last a MONTH on YouTube before getting banned if it was his only forum.

Twitch wouldn't even let him broadcast twice, Millennials own that venue and they'd shout him down so hard they'd rather cancel his account completely rather than have 1/20th of their userbase quit.

About the only venue he has if he can't afford to keep his servers and bandwidth/rigs running is posting in 4chan self-seeded torrents of his latest podcast. And at that point, he might as well be dead anyway. I think he fellates a gun well before it gets even to that point.
 
2018-03-07 10:03:00 AM  
Timely.

Someone must be short on rent this month.
 
2018-03-07 10:11:35 AM  

Riche: If Jones had any lick of common sense left he would have instantly complied with the C&D letter and begged to settle. This defiance shows he's a bigger fool than Trump.

In any court setting, he's going to lose. Bigly.


He can lose the case and still count it as a win, because even though he's blatantly in the wrong, he's already trumpeting it as proof that the establishment can't handle his truthiness and wants him shut down. It plays directly to his base of angry and paranoid conspiracy nuts.

The better way to stick it to him would be to out him as a hypocrite. Someone should shoot a porn parody called "Alex Bones: He's turning the frogs gay!" with a Jones lookalike giving and taking the business from a big guy wearing a Pepe-like mask. I bet Jones would change his tune pretty quick about fair use, even though such a movie probably could be protected as satire, unlike his Pepe poster which is just a flagrant copyright violation.
 
2018-03-07 10:18:05 AM  
Never let it be forgotten that the character that so inspired the alt-right is essentially a grotesque-looking creature who does the weird things he does because it "feels good."

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2018-03-07 11:26:26 AM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: Never let it be forgotten that the character that so inspired the alt-right is essentially a grotesque-looking creature who does the weird things he does because it "feels good."

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Pepe's easily the nicest one out of the group. Landwolf is the actual hedonistic asshole but for some reason he never took off like Pepe did. That said, the Pepe that they ultimately raised up as their figurehead is like a badly degraded 5th generation VHS copy. It wasn't even the sad Pepe face (which I almost thought was never in the comic, but there's one in there that's close enough) but a farking Pepe-ized Mads Mikkelsen.
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2018-03-07 11:35:33 AM  
"That's total fair use, that's total freedom of speech, it's political speech, it's totally protected," Jones says in the video.

As of now, the poster is still available on the Infowars store, with this description: "The establishment wants this taken down."


Nice to know Derpo Jones doesn't respect intellectual property laws.
 
2018-03-07 11:40:51 AM  
Furie has done such a poor job of protecting his trademark I wouldn't be surprised if it wound up in the same camp as Kleenex and Xerox.
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2018-03-07 11:48:11 AM  

Fark Against the Machine: Furie has done such a poor job of protecting his trademark I wouldn't be surprised if it wound up in the same camp as Kleenex and Xerox.
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This isn't trademark, this is copyright.
 
2018-03-07 11:54:44 AM  

Inebriated Bolshevik Muppet: Riche: Sadly, a big court loss wouldn't shut down his podcast. If you have an internet connection and a $50 laptop from a pawn shop you too can have a podcast. Probably including video! A web site would be super cheap if not free as well.

Hell, in theory Jones could be homeless yet still record his podcast. He could scream it into a cheap, deactivated smartphone and upload it at the public library.

Jones almost certainly would keep doing that hate screed of his too, even if he was somehow forbidden from making money off of it. I'm sure he loves loves loves the money, but he'd be screaming those rants for free if he had to.

Without at least a couple grand in revenue per month to keep the requisite bandwidth running to his studio (which could easily be in his house, yes) and the needed kW/h to keep the cameras and computers running, the only venue he's broadcasting to is Youtube. And he wouldn't last a MONTH on YouTube before getting banned if it was his only forum.

Twitch wouldn't even let him broadcast twice, Millennials own that venue and they'd shout him down so hard they'd rather cancel his account completely rather than have 1/20th of their userbase quit.

About the only venue he has if he can't afford to keep his servers and bandwidth/rigs running is posting in 4chan self-seeded torrents of his latest podcast. And at that point, he might as well be dead anyway. I think he fellates a gun well before it gets even to that point.


LiveLeak comes to mind.

There are probably a number of porn and/or gore video sites that would host him.

Stormfront might give him some bandwidth and server space-- Jones could even kinda-sorta hide that association by using his own URL.

Hell, 4Chan might just host the guy for free. It's not like the owner is spending any money on updating his site's... well, "design" is being kind of charitable... Let's just say layout.

If you're not worried about keeping up some sort of reputation as a "mainstream" organization, then the name Alex Jones is going to bring you in a LOT of eyeballs-- FAR more than enough to pay for any extra bandwidth used.

And, if he ditched video and went with "Meh, good enough" audio quality, he could get his four hour podcast file size somewhere down around 150MB. That isn't much at all for sites dealing with media.

Yeah, if Jones ever went totally broke, he still wouldn't have much difficulty finding a host.
 
2018-03-07 12:01:31 PM  

Riche: Inebriated Bolshevik Muppet: Riche: Sadly, a big court loss wouldn't shut down his podcast. If you have an internet connection and a $50 laptop from a pawn shop you too can have a podcast. Probably including video! A web site would be super cheap if not free as well.

Hell, in theory Jones could be homeless yet still record his podcast. He could scream it into a cheap, deactivated smartphone and upload it at the public library.

Jones almost certainly would keep doing that hate screed of his too, even if he was somehow forbidden from making money off of it. I'm sure he loves loves loves the money, but he'd be screaming those rants for free if he had to.

Without at least a couple grand in revenue per month to keep the requisite bandwidth running to his studio (which could easily be in his house, yes) and the needed kW/h to keep the cameras and computers running, the only venue he's broadcasting to is Youtube. And he wouldn't last a MONTH on YouTube before getting banned if it was his only forum.

Twitch wouldn't even let him broadcast twice, Millennials own that venue and they'd shout him down so hard they'd rather cancel his account completely rather than have 1/20th of their userbase quit.

About the only venue he has if he can't afford to keep his servers and bandwidth/rigs running is posting in 4chan self-seeded torrents of his latest podcast. And at that point, he might as well be dead anyway. I think he fellates a gun well before it gets even to that point.

LiveLeak comes to mind.

There are probably a number of porn and/or gore video sites that would host him.

Stormfront might give him some bandwidth and server space-- Jones could even kinda-sorta hide that association by using his own URL.

Hell, 4Chan might just host the guy for free. It's not like the owner is spending any money on updating his site's... well, "design" is being kind of charitable... Let's just say layout.

If you're not worried about keeping up some sort of reputation as a "mainstream" o ...


But that's ALL he would have. You can't monetize yourself on LiveLeak. 4Chan can barely keep itself going. Stormfront has already been neutered. The only venue he has access to if Furie takes him to the mat where he can even hope too make enough money to afford HughesNet is YouTube. And they'd ban him in a month flat if he does what he ALWAYS gets up to.

He eats a gun before he goes back to only having listeners and absolutely no way to make money off of them. I guarantee it.
 
2018-03-07 12:20:44 PM  
Soooo, today must be a good day to be a liberal snowflake?
Lot of self touching celebrating going on I imagine.
 
2018-03-07 12:48:05 PM  

Trik: Soooo, today must be a good day to be a liberal snowflake?
Lot of self touching celebrating going on I imagine.

Nah, they save that for the Nazi-punching videos.

/seriously, you have no idea how many people I know who claim to have done this
//that's weird
 
2018-03-07 01:03:48 PM  

Ketchuponsteak: I don't think he has any basis to sue for millions, unless he can show that he was likely to earn something from Pepe, before the character was arguably ruined.


Under the Copyright Act, 17 USC Sec 504, if the infringement is found to be "intentional" (and the defendant has forced the plaintiff into proving that fact) then EACH act constituting infringement can be compensated up to $150,000 under the established Statutory Damages scheme. If during trial, or after being served the lawsuit, the Defendant admits to intentionally infringing, then the court can compensate the copyright owner an amount up to $30,000 for each act of infringement.

So a lot of the damages are going to come down to: A. Did Jones intentionally infringe (most certainly); B. Will he admit or not; and C. How many times did he actually use the Pepe character on his website or other places.
 
2018-03-07 01:07:35 PM  

Millennium: Trik: Soooo, today must be a good day to be a liberal snowflake?
Lot of self touching celebrating going on I imagine.
Nah, they save that for the Nazi-punching videos.

/seriously, you have no idea how many people I know who claim to have done this
//that's weird


Back in the mid - late 70's and maybe even into the early 80's every d00d who ever say Fists of Fury or Enter the Dragon, knew Kung Fu.
 
2018-03-07 01:20:25 PM  

Millennium: Trik: Soooo, today must be a good day to be a liberal snowflake?
Lot of self touching celebrating going on I imagine.
Nah, they save that for the Nazi-punching videos.

/seriously, you have no idea how many people I know who claim to have done this
//that's weird


Some of us don't have to, some of us have been bashing skins for awhile. Youth aside, I work in an industry rife with bigots and close enough to the midwest skinhead capitol that I've had more than one opportunity to tune up someone sporting a swastika tattoo and have taken them.

Two of those times were just to get the point across that I'm not someone to mess with. After having exhausted all other civilized options available. These people only understand violence. They are bullies, nothing more, and the only thing they understand is who is bigger and stronger. The only way to get that point across is to leave them bleeding from as many orifices as you can manage in the minute you have before it becomes attempted murder.

I've had to deal with these monosynaptic chuckle-farks my entire life. Others have too. You'll notice that all of us are on the "punch them all, all the time" side of the camp. We're there for a reason, even the more level-headed and pacifistic among us.

So no, it's not mental masturbation, it's cheering on someone finally figuring out that the only way you deal with Nazis if you don't want to end up pointing a rifle at them is beating the shiat out of them early to show them just how pathetic and unworthy of humanity they are.
 
2018-03-07 01:52:15 PM  

Inebriated Bolshevik Muppet: Riche:
He eats a gun before he goes back to only having listeners and absolutely no way to make money off of them. I guarantee it.


I hope he livestreams that.
 
2018-03-07 02:24:17 PM  
Hope he wins and takes them for everything they own.
 
2018-03-07 06:41:12 PM  

Inebriated Bolshevik Muppet: But that's ALL he would have. You can't monetize yourself on LiveLeak. 4Chan can barely keep itself going. Stormfront has already been neutered. The only venue he has access to if Furie takes him to the mat where he can even hope too make enough money to afford HughesNet is YouTube. And they'd ban him in a month flat if he does what he ALWAYS gets up to.

He eats a gun before he goes back to only having listeners and absolutely no way to make money off of them. I guarantee it.



Sorry, but we're going to have to agree to disagree.

As I mentioned in an earlier post, while I have no doubt Jones REALLY loves the money coming in from what he does, I have the gut feeling that money is not even close to the most important part of what he does.

Jones is transmitting his unhinged rage out into the world because he wants to-- because he feels he HAS to. Also, that InfoWars gig of his has been his whole life for so long... It's the only thing he really CAN do anymore. So, personally, I think Jones would only "Eat a Gun" if he somehow became unable to record his batshiat ranting and post it on the net for all the world to see and/or hear.

Jones has managed to channel all that paranoia, sense of persecution, and the resulting hate into energy to make that podcast and several very active web pages. Alex Jones is almost the same age as me and, Hell, I'll even admit I seriously envy him having all that energy to accomplish so much-- though I would NEVER accept into my psyche his particular source of that energy. The guy might have started out only playing the role of an unhinged lunatic, but as the recent child custody court battle with his ex wife has shown, he's been IN that role so long that he has truly BECOME it.

 It's possible that him losing almost everything in a bad court judgement against him might possibly break the guy and send him into a spiral of depression and despair, but I'd bet (a modest sum) that it would do the opposite-- it would only energize Jones still more.

And, assuming that all the fresh anger from his new and even greater sense of having been persecuted doesn't make him have an aneurysm, He'll keep on going, one way or another, with added vigor.
 
2018-03-07 06:56:02 PM  

Riche: Inebriated Bolshevik Muppet: But that's ALL he would have. You can't monetize yourself on LiveLeak. 4Chan can barely keep itself going. Stormfront has already been neutered. The only venue he has access to if Furie takes him to the mat where he can even hope too make enough money to afford HughesNet is YouTube. And they'd ban him in a month flat if he does what he ALWAYS gets up to.

He eats a gun before he goes back to only having listeners and absolutely no way to make money off of them. I guarantee it.


Sorry, but we're going to have to agree to disagree.

As I mentioned in an earlier post, while I have no doubt Jones REALLY loves the money coming in from what he does, I have the gut feeling that money is not even close to the most important part of what he does.

Jones is transmitting his unhinged rage out into the world because he wants to-- because he feels he HAS to. Also, that InfoWars gig of his has been his whole life for so long... It's the only thing he really CAN do anymore. So, personally, I think Jones would only "Eat a Gun" if he somehow became unable to record his batshiat ranting and post it on the net for all the world to see and/or hear.

Jones has managed to channel all that paranoia, sense of persecution, and the resulting hate into energy to make that podcast and several very active web pages. Alex Jones is almost the same age as me and, Hell, I'll even admit I seriously envy him having all that energy to accomplish so much-- though I would NEVER accept into my psyche his particular source of that energy. The guy might have started out only playing the role of an unhinged lunatic, but as the recent child custody court battle with his ex wife has shown, he's been IN that role so long that he has truly BECOME it.

 It's possible that him losing almost everything in a bad court judgement against him might possibly break the guy and send him into a spiral of depression and despair, but I'd bet (a modest sum) that it would do the opposite-- it wou ...


Which means he literally isolates himself from having any audience at all. Even LiveLeak has standards. His videos would be actively taken down within a week. The best he'd be able to manage is self-seeding podcasts on bittorrent, and I know a few trackers would actively take THAT down as well.

If Furie does us the public service he should, Alex Jones is gone. They won't even let him on Fox News anymore.
 
2018-03-07 07:22:12 PM  

Inebriated Bolshevik Muppet: Millennium: Trik: Soooo, today must be a good day to be a liberal snowflake?
Lot of self touching celebrating going on I imagine.
Nah, they save that for the Nazi-punching videos.

/seriously, you have no idea how many people I know who claim to have done this
//that's weird

Some of us don't have to, some of us have been bashing skins for awhile. Youth aside, I work in an industry rife with bigots and close enough to the midwest skinhead capitol that I've had more than one opportunity to tune up someone sporting a swastika tattoo and have taken them.

Two of those times were just to get the point across that I'm not someone to mess with. After having exhausted all other civilized options available. These people only understand violence. They are bullies, nothing more, and the only thing they understand is who is bigger and stronger. The only way to get that point across is to leave them bleeding from as many orifices as you can manage in the minute you have before it becomes attempted murder.

I've had to deal with these monosynaptic chuckle-farks my entire life. Others have too. You'll notice that all of us are on the "punch them all, all the time" side of the camp. We're there for a reason, even the more level-headed and pacifistic among us.

So no, it's not mental masturbation, it's cheering on someone finally figuring out that the only way you deal with Nazis if you don't want to end up pointing a rifle at them is beating the shiat out of them early to show them just how pathetic and unworthy of humanity they are.


Um... I think you misunderstand me. I'm not talking about people claiming to have punched Nazis (more power to them for doing so), nor am I talking about metaphorical forms of masturbation. I'm talking about people claiming to have literally fapped to Nazi-punching videos. There are a shocking number of them.
 
2018-03-07 09:42:47 PM  

Inebriated Bolshevik Muppet: Which means he literally isolates himself from having any audience at all. Even LiveLeak has standards. His videos would be actively taken down within a week. The best he'd be able to manage is self-seeding podcasts on bittorrent, and I know a few trackers would actively take THAT down as well.


Self-hosting is fairly cheap if you know the right companies, and he has enough dedicated followers that even going to a strictly donation basis would be far more than sufficient to pay for his bandwidth.

Kicking him off the standard video sites would put a measurable dent in his viewership, but almost nothing short of a court order is going to shut him down entirely.
 
2018-03-07 10:00:41 PM  

Gordon Bennett: Good.
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You realize using Pepe this way makes you no different than the neo-Nazis, right?
 
2018-03-07 10:36:45 PM  

Inebriated Bolshevik Muppet: Which means he literally isolates himself from having any audience at all. Even LiveLeak has standards. His videos would be actively taken down within a week. The best he'd be able to manage is self-seeding podcasts on bittorrent, and I know a few trackers would actively take THAT down as well.

If Furie does us the public service he should, Alex Jones is gone. They won't even let him on Fox News anymore.

**shrugs**

  Maybe you're right.

I'm still skeptical, since Jones has a lot to say, there are millions of VERY eager listeners, and the internet has turned out to be pretty amazingly flexible.

For example, I wouldn't be too quick to dismiss bittorrent. It works fine. All you really need to do is have an idiot-proof Windows client app with little more than a "Download Alex Jones Latest" button. With all that open-source bittorrent client code out there it wouldn't be too difficult for somebody to take that code and knock together a custom app for Jones. Bittorrent client apps can be pretty darn small, too.

Jones could use The Pirate Bay as a tracker, super seed for a bit, and each of his custom bittorrent apps would start grabbing the chunks of his podcast file while quietly sharing/seeding for a gig or two when the client computer is running on a non-metered connection. There would be a few more tech details needed to make it robust, but not that many.

Meh. We will all just have to see how all this plays out.
 
2018-03-07 10:48:19 PM  

Riche: Inebriated Bolshevik Muppet: Which means he literally isolates himself from having any audience at all. Even LiveLeak has standards. His videos would be actively taken down within a week. The best he'd be able to manage is self-seeding podcasts on bittorrent, and I know a few trackers would actively take THAT down as well.

If Furie does us the public service he should, Alex Jones is gone. They won't even let him on Fox News anymore.

**shrugs**  Maybe you're right.

I'm still skeptical, since Jones has a lot to say, there are millions of VERY eager listeners, and the internet has turned out to be pretty amazingly flexible.

For example, I wouldn't be too quick to dismiss bittorrent. It works fine. All you really need to do is have an idiot-proof Windows client app with little more than a "Download Alex Jones Latest" button. With all that open-source bittorrent client code out there it wouldn't be too difficult for somebody to take that code and knock together a custom app for Jones. Bittorrent client apps can be pretty darn small, too.

Jones could use The Pirate Bay as a tracker, super seed for a bit, and each of his custom bittorrent apps would start grabbing the chunks of his podcast file while quietly sharing/seeding for a gig or two when the client computer is running on a non-metered connection. There would be a few more tech details needed to make it robust, but not that many.

Meh. We will all just have to see how all this plays out.


Assuming he can find a web developer who would take one look at him and not laugh out of the room. They tend not to take IOUs and work for people who the news just told him is flat broke. At least I hope that news would be blasted all over.
 
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