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2018-03-06 05:35:44 PM  
Dahomey was awesome, but their "vibranium"
was their neighbors as slaves and their technology was just being really good at fixing junky guns bought from European slavers.

Wakanda is art imitating life, but much more ethically.
 
2018-03-06 06:51:55 PM  
Not bad for a pretty blah movie.
 
2018-03-06 07:02:06 PM  

limboslam: Not bad for a pretty blah movie.


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2018-03-06 07:05:27 PM  

limboslam: Not bad for a pretty blah movie.


Rick feels the same.

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2018-03-06 07:14:29 PM  
I've yet to see it. Six day work weeks and spending a lot of your free-time desperately searching for a replacement car is no fun. :(
 
2018-03-06 07:24:35 PM  

LaBlueSkuld: I've yet to see it. Six day work weeks and spending a lot of your free-time desperately searching for a replacement car is no fun. :(


Spoiler alert: it's popular
 
2018-03-06 07:24:36 PM  
I really want to like Black Panther.  I really do.  It's getting way too much praise for how very mediocre it really is.  And that annoys me, and makes it harder to like Black Panther.  It makes me want to throw shade at the movie as ballast.

Kilmonger is a stupid villain.  His plot is stupid.  I mean literally every single part of his plot is stupid.  His long term plans and his short term tactics are all dumb as hell.  Let's start with the big plot: arm the oppressed people of the world with high tech weaponry and then unite all the newly overthrown governments under Wakanda.  This is some weapons grade idiocy.

Most of these super-weapons would rapidly fall into the hands of authorities.  One cop may be useless against a dude armed with a Wakandan spear-blaster, but there are thousands of cops and soldiers.  Also, the poor and oppressed are typically not also highly trained in combat.  You'll get a lot of chaos, a lot of violence, and the poor and oppressed with bear the brunt of it.  In many parts of the world, such a plan will just make gangs and warlords that much more powerful.  This plan is literally as stupid as the idiot gun nuts who say they are going to defeat the US government with their AR-15.  It just has zero chance of not turning into an epic clusterfark.

Then there's Kilmonger's stupid scheme to take the Wakandan throne.  All he needs to do is literally walk into Wakanda, tell people he's a lost heir to the throne, and he can invoke his right to challenge.  He doesn't actually need Klaue at all.  But okay, so he wants to use Klaue's capture to make himself look good.  So when he meets up with Klaue at the museum, he kills him and takes him back to Wakanda?  No, dumbass decides to set Klaue up to get captured by either the CIA or Black Panther, then rescue him, then kill him. So basically his plan now hinges on Black Panther a) not killing Klaue outright, b) the CIA not killing Klaue outright, c) Klaue not getting into a fatal traffic accident, and d) the CIA refusing to hand Klaue over to the Black Panther right away.  And if ANY of these things happens, then he's just handed a major victory to a new king looking to shore up him position.

This is a dumb plan.

Also, his hair was stupid.  It was like Flock of Seagulls stupid.  Can we please all just stop and acknowledge how stupid his haircut was?  It was so hard to take him seriously as a villain, with his stuid baby face, his stupid floppy emo haircut, and his stupid, nonsensical plan.  Everyone keeps calling him Marvel's best villain and it's farking annoying.  He was a stupid looking walking plot device.  best villain ever, my ass.
 
2018-03-06 07:40:39 PM  

skepticultist: I really want to like Black Panther.  I really do.  It's getting way too much praise for how very mediocre it really is.  And that annoys me, and makes it harder to like Black Panther.  It makes me want to throw shade at the movie as ballast.

Kilmonger is a stupid villain.  His plot is stupid.  I mean literally every single part of his plot is stupid.  His long term plans and his short term tactics are all dumb as hell.  Let's start with the big plot: arm the oppressed people of the world with high tech weaponry and then unite all the newly overthrown governments under Wakanda.  This is some weapons grade idiocy.

Most of these super-weapons would rapidly fall into the hands of authorities.  One cop may be useless against a dude armed with a Wakandan spear-blaster, but there are thousands of cops and soldiers.  Also, the poor and oppressed are typically not also highly trained in combat.  You'll get a lot of chaos, a lot of violence, and the poor and oppressed with bear the brunt of it.  In many parts of the world, such a plan will just make gangs and warlords that much more powerful.  This plan is literally as stupid as the idiot gun nuts who say they are going to defeat the US government with their AR-15.  It just has zero chance of not turning into an epic clusterfark.

Then there's Kilmonger's stupid scheme to take the Wakandan throne.  All he needs to do is literally walk into Wakanda, tell people he's a lost heir to the throne, and he can invoke his right to challenge.  He doesn't actually need Klaue at all.  But okay, so he wants to use Klaue's capture to make himself look good.  So when he meets up with Klaue at the museum, he kills him and takes him back to Wakanda?  No, dumbass decides to set Klaue up to get captured by either the CIA or Black Panther, then rescue him, then kill him. So basically his plan now hinges on Black Panther a) not killing Klaue outright, b) the CIA not killing Klaue outright, c) Klaue not getting into a fatal traffic accident, and d) the CIA refusing to hand Klaue over to the Black Panther right away.  And if ANY of these things happens, then he's just handed a major victory to a new king looking to shore up him position.

This is a dumb plan.

Also, his hair was stupid.  It was like Flock of Seagulls stupid.  Can we please all just stop and acknowledge how stupid his haircut was?  It was so hard to take him seriously as a villain, with his stuid baby face, his stupid floppy emo haircut, and his stupid, nonsensical plan.  Everyone keeps calling him Marvel's best villain and it's farking annoying.  He was a stupid looking walking plot device.  best villain ever, my ass.


Killmonger knew the CIA protocol and didn't anticipate trouble extracting Klaue.  He had to show T'Challa failing to bring Klaue to justice as part of proving that he would be a stronger choice, and it worked for Daniel Kaluuya's character which kept the other tribes from uniting against him.

And chaos was part of his plan.  Arming dissidents and striking simultaneously would overwhelm the ability of authorities to respond.  They might hold control in some areas, but would lose the ability to assert supremacy over their own soil, let alone internationally, leaving Wakanda as the lone superpower with grateful partisans all over the globe.

I'm not saying it was 10th dimensional chess, or without it's pitfalls, but not illogical or unreasonable.
 
2018-03-06 07:46:27 PM  
Stile4aly:

Also, who cares about Killmonger.

The real stars of the show were the ladies. I don't even care about T'chala anymore. I want a phalanx of those spearwomen to take on Thanos and his hand of fate.
 
2018-03-06 07:57:46 PM  

skepticultist: Then there's Kilmonger's stupid scheme to take the Wakandan throne.  All he needs to do is literally walk into Wakanda, tell people he's a lost heir to the throne, and he can invoke his right to challenge.


(spoilers)
He wasn't a lost heir. He was the illegitimate son of the King's brother. Once the king had a son he, T'Challa, became the heir. Killmonger would then be third in line at best, fourth after T'Challa had a sister. Also, many hereditary systems disqualify illegitimate children.
So you could argue he would need to have killed Kalue to have a shot at challenging for the throne. For all we know T'Challa could simply have said "Sorry, you're not qualified, only heads of the five tribes can challenge me"  (His sisters challenge was clearly a joke, so we don't know if relatives would be able to demand a challenge)
 
2018-03-06 07:57:48 PM  

doglover: Stile4aly:

Also, who cares about Killmonger.

The real stars of the show were the ladies. I don't even care about T'chala anymore. I want a phalanx of those spearwomen to take on Thanos and his hand of fate.


Second.
 
2018-03-06 08:18:31 PM  
I love comics movies and the small black panther roles in other films has been really good. Love the actor playing him. But I found the movie to be just 'pretty good'. I thought it was on part with the first cap movie. Definitely a step below guardians and Deadpool and two below the first Iron Man movie. I'm not at all saying it was bad but I am a little surprised at the universal praise and box office. Where the credits started rolling on the first Iron Man I had chill bumps. When the credits started rolling on black panther I was thinking, ' that was pretty long'.

But they have a great team and I have high hopes for number two. I think black panther will be the first standalone character where #2 is better than#1. I want to set him kicking villain ass. This movie seemed like he mostly fights Wakandans...
 
2018-03-06 08:25:06 PM  
Carter Pewterschmidt:

They said very cleary "any of royal blood" after asking each individual tribe if they had a champion.

All Killmonger would have needed to do is get to Wakanda and prove his heritage to be eligible.

He needed a dead body because it's a movie and he's a dumb villian. The whole movie is full of dumb men, actually. A couple dumb women too.

The only characters I want to see again are the General, the Gorilla dude, and James Earl Jones as Thulsa Doom.  He wasn't actually in the movie, but I do like Conan.
 
2018-03-06 08:39:37 PM  

Carter Pewterschmidt: He wasn't a lost heir. He was the illegitimate son of the King's brother. Once the king had a son he, T'Challa, became the heir. Killmonger would then be third in line at best, fourth after T'Challa had a sister. Also, many hereditary systems disqualify illegitimate children.
So you could argue he would need to have killed Kalue to have a shot at challenging for the throne. For all we know T'Challa could simply have said "Sorry, you're not qualified, only heads of the five tribes can challenge me"  (His sisters challenge was clearly a joke, so we don't know if relatives would be able to demand a challenge)


You're desperately grasping at straws. We know that T'Challa couldn't "simply" refuse the challenge, because he would have if he could.  Everyone in that scene made it very clear that he could not refuse Kilmonger's challenge because of Kilmonger's parentage.

You mention Shuri's joke, but you apparently missed the crowd's reaction to the joke.  They clearly thought she was serious, and we have to assume from their reaction that she could have actually challenged T'Challa.

And, again, if he needed Klaue's dead body as a welcoming gift, then why not just kill Klaue at the museum!?!  Why go through all this hoopla to set up T'Challa for failure?  It seems like complete overkill, and there are so many different ways the plan could just blow up in his face.

I mean for christ's sakes, Kilmonger's plan only worked because T'Challa grabbed hold of the Idiot Ball and for some reason never pointed out that the only reason Klaue escaped T'Challa was because KILMONGER RESCUED HIM.  T'Challa should have been like "I am the hunter, you are the jackal who steals the hunter's kill.  You are no better than a vulture."

This time next year, a lot of people are going to wake up and realize how completely overhyped this movie is.  You're going to look back and suddenly realize the plot is total nonsense, entirely dependent on coincidence, the characters are two-dimensional, and the fantastic elements are nonsensical.

Also, it's crazy racist.  Seriously, the message at the heart of this movie is "Even in the most advanced nation of Africa, everybody is still a spear-chucking, hut-dwelling Noble Savage."
 
2018-03-06 08:49:11 PM  
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2018-03-06 08:52:06 PM  

skepticultist: Carter Pewterschmidt: He wasn't a lost heir. He was the illegitimate son of the King's brother. Once the king had a son he, T'Challa, became the heir. Killmonger would then be third in line at best, fourth after T'Challa had a sister. Also, many hereditary systems disqualify illegitimate children.
So you could argue he would need to have killed Kalue to have a shot at challenging for the throne. For all we know T'Challa could simply have said "Sorry, you're not qualified, only heads of the five tribes can challenge me"  (His sisters challenge was clearly a joke, so we don't know if relatives would be able to demand a challenge)

You're desperately grasping at straws. We know that T'Challa couldn't "simply" refuse the challenge, because he would have if he could.  Everyone in that scene made it very clear that he could not refuse Kilmonger's challenge because of Kilmonger's parentage.

You mention Shuri's joke, but you apparently missed the crowd's reaction to the joke.  They clearly thought she was serious, and we have to assume from their reaction that she could have actually challenged T'Challa.

And, again, if he needed Klaue's dead body as a welcoming gift, then why not just kill Klaue at the museum!?!  Why go through all this hoopla to set up T'Challa for failure?  It seems like complete overkill, and there are so many different ways the plan could just blow up in his face.

I mean for christ's sakes, Kilmonger's plan only worked because T'Challa grabbed hold of the Idiot Ball and for some reason never pointed out that the only reason Klaue escaped T'Challa was because KILMONGER RESCUED HIM.  T'Challa should have been like "I am the hunter, you are the jackal who steals the hunter's kill.  You are no better than a vulture."

This time next year, a lot of people are going to wake up and realize how completely overhyped this movie is.  You're going to look back and suddenly realize the plot is total nonsense, entirely dependent on coincidence, the characters are two-dimensional, and the fantastic elements are nonsensical.

Also, it's crazy racist.  Seriously, the message at the heart of this movie is "Even in the most advanced nation of Africa, everybody is still a spear-chucking, hut-dwelling Noble Savage."


But that's just, like, your opinion, man
 
2018-03-06 09:00:44 PM  
I'm just really glad the last Infinity Stone didn't show up in this movie. It would have been really awkward if Marvel had given the black guy Soul...
 
2018-03-06 09:09:26 PM  
I looked black panther because it justified Trump putting his family members into pivotal positions into the government heirarchy. Plus it also showed that good leaders can come about without the need of winning some kind of popularity vote. And Klaw is a good expressing of what happens when you trade away your best kept secrets with the outside world instead putting your own country first.
 
2018-03-06 09:19:40 PM  

LaBlueSkuld: I've yet to see it. Six day work weeks and spending a lot of your free-time desperately searching for a replacement car is no fun. :(


I'm caring for a parent recovering from a stroke, so can't get to a theater for the foreseeable future.  =/

But I've read all the spoilers I could find.  So I got that going for me, which is nice.
 
2018-03-06 09:29:18 PM  

skepticultist: I really want to like Black Panther.  I really do.  It's getting way too much praise for how very mediocre it really is.  And that annoys me, and makes it harder to like Black Panther.  It makes me want to throw shade at the movie as ballast.

Kilmonger is a stupid villain.  His plot is stupid.  I mean literally every single part of his plot is stupid.  His long term plans and his short term tactics are all dumb as hell.  Let's start with the big plot: arm the oppressed people of the world with high tech weaponry and then unite all the newly overthrown governments under Wakanda.  This is some weapons grade idiocy.

Most of these super-weapons would rapidly fall into the hands of authorities.  One cop may be useless against a dude armed with a Wakandan spear-blaster, but there are thousands of cops and soldiers.  Also, the poor and oppressed are typically not also highly trained in combat.  You'll get a lot of chaos, a lot of violence, and the poor and oppressed with bear the brunt of it.  In many parts of the world, such a plan will just make gangs and warlords that much more powerful.  This plan is literally as stupid as the idiot gun nuts who say they are going to defeat the US government with their AR-15.  It just has zero chance of not turning into an epic clusterfark.

Then there's Kilmonger's stupid scheme to take the Wakandan throne.  All he needs to do is literally walk into Wakanda, tell people he's a lost heir to the throne, and he can invoke his right to challenge.  He doesn't actually need Klaue at all.  But okay, so he wants to use Klaue's capture to make himself look good.  So when he meets up with Klaue at the museum, he kills him and takes him back to Wakanda?  No, dumbass decides to set Klaue up to get captured by either the CIA or Black Panther, then rescue him, then kill him. So basically his plan now hinges on Black Panther a) not killing Klaue outright, b) the CIA not killing Klaue outright, c) Klaue not getting into a fatal traffic accident, and d) the CIA refusing to hand Klaue over to the Black Panther right away.  And if ANY of these things happens, then he's just handed a major victory to a new king looking to shore up him position.

This is a dumb plan.

Also, his hair was stupid.  It was like Flock of Seagulls stupid.  Can we please all just stop and acknowledge how stupid his haircut was?  It was so hard to take him seriously as a villain, with his stuid baby face, his stupid floppy emo haircut, and his stupid, nonsensical plan.  Everyone keeps calling him Marvel's best villain and it's farking annoying.  He was a stupid looking walking plot device.  best villain ever, my ass.


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2018-03-06 09:38:06 PM  

Ooba Tooba: skepticultist: I really want to like Black Panther.  I really do.  It's getting way too much praise for how very mediocre it really is.  And that annoys me, and makes it harder to like Black Panther.  It makes me want to throw shade at the movie as ballast.

Kilmonger is a stupid villain.  His plot is stupid.  I mean literally every single part of his plot is stupid.  His long term plans and his short term tactics are all dumb as hell.  Let's start with the big plot: arm the oppressed people of the world with high tech weaponry and then unite all the newly overthrown governments under Wakanda.  This is some weapons grade idiocy.

Most of these super-weapons would rapidly fall into the hands of authorities.  One cop may be useless against a dude armed with a Wakandan spear-blaster, but there are thousands of cops and soldiers.  Also, the poor and oppressed are typically not also highly trained in combat.  You'll get a lot of chaos, a lot of violence, and the poor and oppressed with bear the brunt of it.  In many parts of the world, such a plan will just make gangs and warlords that much more powerful.  This plan is literally as stupid as the idiot gun nuts who say they are going to defeat the US government with their AR-15.  It just has zero chance of not turning into an epic clusterfark.

Then there's Kilmonger's stupid scheme to take the Wakandan throne.  All he needs to do is literally walk into Wakanda, tell people he's a lost heir to the throne, and he can invoke his right to challenge.  He doesn't actually need Klaue at all.  But okay, so he wants to use Klaue's capture to make himself look good.  So when he meets up with Klaue at the museum, he kills him and takes him back to Wakanda?  No, dumbass decides to set Klaue up to get captured by either the CIA or Black Panther, then rescue him, then kill him. So basically his plan now hinges on Black Panther a) not killing Klaue outright, b) the CIA not killing Klaue outright, c) Klaue not getting into a fatal traffic accident, and d) the CIA refusing to hand Klaue over to the Black Panther right away.  And if ANY of these things happens, then he's just handed a major victory to a new king looking to shore up him position.

This is a dumb plan.

Also, his hair was stupid.  It was like Flock of Seagulls stupid.  Can we please all just stop and acknowledge how stupid his haircut was?  It was so hard to take him seriously as a villain, with his stuid baby face, his stupid floppy emo haircut, and his stupid, nonsensical plan.  Everyone keeps calling him Marvel's best villain and it's farking annoying.  He was a stupid looking walking plot device.  best villain ever, my ass.

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N***a look like Prince


Hey, at least it wasn't the Jheri Curl from the comic:

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2018-03-06 09:40:52 PM  
A lot of people in this thread are bad at watching movies.
 
2018-03-06 09:44:51 PM  
I see that now that Black Panther is seen as a wide success, the time has come for the usual Fark HivemindTM civil war.  I'll need popcorn beer to enjoy this properly.

/Loved the movie
//Better than most of the MCU stuff, in my top 3 with the first two Caps.
///oblig.
 
2018-03-06 09:49:30 PM  

skepticultist: This time next year, a lot of people are going to wake up and realize how completely overhyped this movie is. You're going to look back and suddenly realize the plot is total nonsense, entirely dependent on coincidence, the characters are two-dimensional, and the fantastic elements are nonsensical.


Isn't that like every movie ever?
 
2018-03-06 10:00:12 PM  
A Forbes article gets green lit without being "science"!
 
2018-03-06 10:43:05 PM  

skepticultist: Also, it's crazy racist.  Seriously, the message at the heart of this movie is "Even in the most advanced nation of Africa, everybody is still a spear-chucking, hut-dwelling Noble Savage."


The US is the most "advanced" nation in the world and look at us.
 
2018-03-06 10:43:13 PM  

natazha: A Forbes article gets green lit without being "science"!


To be fair, Black Panther is more science than most Forbes articles
 
2018-03-06 10:57:20 PM  

Mugato: skepticultist: Also, it's crazy racist.  Seriously, the message at the heart of this movie is "Even in the most advanced nation of Africa, everybody is still a spear-chucking, hut-dwelling Noble Savage."

The US is the most "advanced" nation in the world and look at us.


Dear God, this. Half our country is "Guns! God! NASCAR!"
 
2018-03-06 11:17:30 PM  

czetie: I'm just really glad the last Infinity Stone didn't show up in this movie. It would have been really awkward if Marvel had given the black guy Soul...


You didn't see it because of the sonic dampeners on the SOOUUUUUULLLLL TRAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIINNNNN
 
2018-03-06 11:39:39 PM  

Stile4aly: skepticultist: I really want to like Black Panther.  I really do.  It's getting way too much praise for how very mediocre it really is.  And that annoys me, and makes it harder to like Black Panther.  It makes me want to throw shade at the movie as ballast.

Kilmonger is a stupid villain.  His plot is stupid.  I mean literally every single part of his plot is stupid.  His long term plans and his short term tactics are all dumb as hell.  Let's start with the big plot: arm the oppressed people of the world with high tech weaponry and then unite all the newly overthrown governments under Wakanda.  This is some weapons grade idiocy.

Most of these super-weapons would rapidly fall into the hands of authorities.  One cop may be useless against a dude armed with a Wakandan spear-blaster, but there are thousands of cops and soldiers.  Also, the poor and oppressed are typically not also highly trained in combat.  You'll get a lot of chaos, a lot of violence, and the poor and oppressed with bear the brunt of it.  In many parts of the world, such a plan will just make gangs and warlords that much more powerful.  This plan is literally as stupid as the idiot gun nuts who say they are going to defeat the US government with their AR-15.  It just has zero chance of not turning into an epic clusterfark.

Then there's Kilmonger's stupid scheme to take the Wakandan throne.  All he needs to do is literally walk into Wakanda, tell people he's a lost heir to the throne, and he can invoke his right to challenge.  He doesn't actually need Klaue at all.  But okay, so he wants to use Klaue's capture to make himself look good.  So when he meets up with Klaue at the museum, he kills him and takes him back to Wakanda?  No, dumbass decides to set Klaue up to get captured by either the CIA or Black Panther, then rescue him, then kill him. So basically his plan now hinges on Black Panther a) not killing Klaue outright, b) the CIA not killing Klaue outright, c) Klaue not getting into a fatal traff ...


Also, Killmonger wasn't just handing out vibranium weapons to random oppressed folks. He was sending the shipments *specifically* to embedded War Dogs; Wakanda's spy network in the rest of the world. It would be like an arms shipment to embedded Green Berets.
 
2018-03-06 11:56:32 PM  

RyansPrivates: I see that now that Black Panther is seen as a wide success, the time has come for the usual Fark HivemindTM civil war.  I'll need popcorn beer to enjoy this properly.

/Loved the movie
//Better than most of the MCU stuff, in my top 3 with the first two Caps.
///oblig.


The two caps are your top 3?

My order is something like this:
Guardians 1
Thor Ragnarok
Civil War
Black Panther

That's just for the MCU. If it is marvel in general then Logan is definitely above black panther. Maybe Deadpool too.
 
2018-03-06 11:58:02 PM  

Mad_Radhu: Hey, at least it wasn't the Jheri Curl from the comic:

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Okay...okay.  I won't call him Erik.  Yeesh.
 
2018-03-07 12:01:26 AM  
You failed to measure my pants.

Tentpole.

Movie was a Tentpole.

Tent. Pole.
 
2018-03-07 12:14:41 AM  
Just saw Black Panther tonight. The first half was amazing. Michael B Jordan stunk up the second half.
Other than that one really terrible actor, the cast was phenomenal. Letitia Wright stole the entire movie. ♥
 
2018-03-07 12:20:30 AM  

snowshovel: I looked black panther because it justified Trump putting his family members into pivotal positions into the government heirarchy. Plus it also showed that good leaders can come about without the need of winning some kind of popularity vote. And Klaw is a good expressing of what happens when you trade away your best kept secrets with the outside world instead putting your own country first.


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2018-03-07 01:02:56 AM  

Mugato: skepticultist: Also, it's crazy racist.  Seriously, the message at the heart of this movie is "Even in the most advanced nation of Africa, everybody is still a spear-chucking, hut-dwelling Noble Savage."

The US is the most "advanced" nation in the world and look at us.


What does this even mean?

RoyFokker'sGhost: Also, Killmonger wasn't just handing out vibranium weapons to random oppressed folks. He was sending the shipments *specifically* to embedded War Dogs; Wakanda's spy network in the rest of the world. It would be like an arms shipment to embedded Green Berets.


My late father was a Green Beret, and on his behalf, I'd like to tell you the Green Berets do not work like that. Green Berets sometimes train up local resistance fighters, but that's a process that takes months and a huge amount of coordination and planning.  The idea that you can whip up an army overnight just because you have spies everywhere is silly -- especially when you go out of your way to point out that many of your spies are against the plan in principle.

Also, who says the War Dogs are anything at all like Green Berets?  Green Berets are not spies, they don't get embedded in places secretly.  Spies and special forces get very different training because they have very different missions.  Are we supposed to believe that despite the fact that Wakanda pre-Kilmonger had zero intentions of engaging in world conquest, they had nonetheless planted spies who are also experts in organizing and leading revolutionary movements, just on the off chance that they decided to betray thousands of years of tradition?

Imagine this scenario: In 2009, the Russian government, with no warning, ships a crate full of laser rifles and force shields to Anna Chapman with instructions to arm the oppressed working class of America and lead them in a violent overthrow of the US.

That's Kilmonger's plan!
 
2018-03-07 04:16:58 AM  

skepticultist: Carter Pewterschmidt: He wasn't a lost heir. He was the illegitimate son of the King's brother. Once the king had a son he, T'Challa, became the heir. Killmonger would then be third in line at best, fourth after T'Challa had a sister. Also, many hereditary systems disqualify illegitimate children.
So you could argue he would need to have killed Kalue to have a shot at challenging for the throne. For all we know T'Challa could simply have said "Sorry, you're not qualified, only heads of the five tribes can challenge me"  (His sisters challenge was clearly a joke, so we don't know if relatives would be able to demand a challenge)

You're desperately grasping at straws. We know that T'Challa couldn't "simply" refuse the challenge, because he would have if he could.  Everyone in that scene made it very clear that he could not refuse Kilmonger's challenge because of Kilmonger's parentage.

You mention Shuri's joke, but you apparently missed the crowd's reaction to the joke.  They clearly thought she was serious, and we have to assume from their reaction that she could have actually challenged T'Challa.

And, again, if he needed Klaue's dead body as a welcoming gift, then why not just kill Klaue at the museum!?!  Why go through all this hoopla to set up T'Challa for failure?  It seems like complete overkill, and there are so many different ways the plan could just blow up in his face.

I mean for christ's sakes, Kilmonger's plan only worked because T'Challa grabbed hold of the Idiot Ball and for some reason never pointed out that the only reason Klaue escaped T'Challa was because KILMONGER RESCUED HIM.  T'Challa should have been like "I am the hunter, you are the jackal who steals the hunter's kill.  You are no better than a vulture."

This time next year, a lot of people are going to wake up and realize how completely overhyped this movie is.  You're going to look back and suddenly realize the plot is total nonsense, entirely dependent on coincidence, the characters are ...


It was no Moonlight but Moonlight didn't put butts in seats. They wanted a blockbuster popcorn flick so that's what they made. For me the eyerolling moment was the giant rhinoceros...But, I can understand, they wanted butts in seats, visuals that made people want to see it in a theater and a bunch of preteens probably thought it was cool to watch a giant animal rampage in a spear battle. At the end of the day, it was a Marvel comic book movie, made to be entertaining with unique visuals, not high art.

I found the spears kind of cringey...but then had to admit that the freaking Avengers have a white guy running around with a bow and arrow with regular arrows and high tech arrows that make you go, but could you not have used a gun for that, etc. The Hulk has magical shape shifting pants. There's plenty that doesn't make sense and they're putting it in there because it was in the comics.
 
2018-03-07 04:51:14 AM  

Dark Side Of The Spoon: The Hulk has magical shape shifting pants


Not always

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2018-03-07 07:57:47 AM  

JohnBigBootay: I love comics movies and the small black panther roles in other films has been really good. Love the actor playing him. But I found the movie to be just 'pretty good'. I thought it was on part with the first cap movie. Definitely a step below guardians and Deadpool and two below the first Iron Man movie. I'm not at all saying it was bad but I am a little surprised at the universal praise and box office. Where the credits started rolling on the first Iron Man I had chill bumps. When the credits started rolling on black panther I was thinking, ' that was pretty long'.

But they have a great team and I have high hopes for number two. I think black panther will be the first standalone character where #2 is better than#1. I want to set him kicking villain ass. This movie seemed like he mostly fights Wakandans...


Captain America: The Winter Soldier.
 
2018-03-07 07:58:38 AM  

czetie: I'm just really glad the last Infinity Stone didn't show up in this movie. It would have been really awkward if Marvel had given the black guy Soul...


So you don't buy the Heimdall has the Soul Stone theory making the rounds with the THANOS theory?
 
2018-03-07 08:21:04 AM  

ExperianScaresCthulhu: czetie: I'm just really glad the last Infinity Stone didn't show up in this movie. It would have been really awkward if Marvel had given the black guy Soul...

So you don't buy the Heimdall has the Soul Stone theory making the rounds with the THANOS theory?


It's put money on it being in Wakanda, they might just not know about it. Heart shaped herb also fits the THANOS theory too.
 
2018-03-07 10:28:02 AM  

The_Homeless_Guy: RyansPrivates: I see that now that Black Panther is seen as a wide success, the time has come for the usual Fark HivemindTM civil war.  I'll need popcorn beer to enjoy this properly.

/Loved the movie
//Better than most of the MCU stuff, in my top 3 with the first two Caps.
///oblig.

The two caps are your top 3?

My order is something like this:
Guardians 1
Thor Ragnarok
Civil War
Black Panther

That's just for the MCU. If it is marvel in general then Logan is definitely above black panther. Maybe Deadpool too.


CA: Winter Soldier and CA:The First Avenger.  I have a soft spot for Cap, as it was one of the few comics I could get back in my small town in Iowa growing up.  That, Superman, and Batman and a few others.

Agree on Logan, but Deadpool is not my taste but understand why it is for some.
 
2018-03-07 11:51:04 AM  
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/ now to get Scarlett Johansson to pay for my carpal tunnel wrist brace
 
2018-03-07 12:01:17 PM  

skepticultist: I really want to like Black Panther. I really do. It's getting way too much praise for how very mediocre it really is. And that annoys me, and makes it harder to like Black Panther.


Think of it this way: People are giving it rave reviews, and are seeing it in droves, as a protest of sorts. It's not a pro-black movie insomuch as it's an anti-orange movie.

Understand?
 
2018-03-07 12:08:19 PM  

Ishkur: skepticultist: I really want to like Black Panther. I really do. It's getting way too much praise for how very mediocre it really is. And that annoys me, and makes it harder to like Black Panther.

Think of it this way: People are giving it rave reviews, and are seeing it in droves, as a protest of sorts. It's not a pro-black movie insomuch as it's an anti-orange movie.

Understand?


If that's true it's really lame.
 
2018-03-07 12:17:51 PM  

Ishkur: skepticultist: I really want to like Black Panther. I really do. It's getting way too much praise for how very mediocre it really is. And that annoys me, and makes it harder to like Black Panther.

Think of it this way: People are giving it rave reviews, and are seeing it in droves, as a protest of sorts. It's not a pro-black movie insomuch as it's an anti-orange movie.

Understand?


no, it is very much a pro-black movie. it is radically out-performing domestically, and part of that reason is black audience attendance is up from 15% for average superhero movies to 35% for black panther.
 
2018-03-07 12:25:09 PM  

Dan the Schman: no, it is very much a pro-black movie. it is radically out-performing domestically, and part of that reason is black audience attendance is up from 15% for average superhero movies to 35% for black panther.


Yes, but that's not why people are seeing it.
 
2018-03-07 12:27:29 PM  

Mugato: Ishkur: skepticultist: I really want to like Black Panther. I really do. It's getting way too much praise for how very mediocre it really is. And that annoys me, and makes it harder to like Black Panther.

Think of it this way: People are giving it rave reviews, and are seeing it in droves, as a protest of sorts. It's not a pro-black movie insomuch as it's an anti-orange movie.

Understand?

If that's true it's really lame.


Yeah...I didn't give a shait who was POTUS, I was going to see Black Panther.
 
2018-03-07 12:44:12 PM  

RogueWallEnthusiast: JohnBigBootay: I love comics movies and the small black panther roles in other films has been really good. Love the actor playing him. But I found the movie to be just 'pretty good'. I thought it was on part with the first cap movie. Definitely a step below guardians and Deadpool and two below the first Iron Man movie. I'm not at all saying it was bad but I am a little surprised at the universal praise and box office. Where the credits started rolling on the first Iron Man I had chill bumps. When the credits started rolling on black panther I was thinking, ' that was pretty long'.

But they have a great team and I have high hopes for number two. I think black panther will be the first standalone character where #2 is better than#1. I want to set him kicking villain ass. This movie seemed like he mostly fights Wakandans...

Captain America: The Winter Soldier.


You know, that's a fair point. Winter Soldier was quite good. Waaaaay way better than Iron Man 2 or Thor 2.
 
2018-03-07 01:47:54 PM  

JohnBigBootay: RogueWallEnthusiast: JohnBigBootay: I love comics movies and the small black panther roles in other films has been really good. Love the actor playing him. But I found the movie to be just 'pretty good'. I thought it was on part with the first cap movie. Definitely a step below guardians and Deadpool and two below the first Iron Man movie. I'm not at all saying it was bad but I am a little surprised at the universal praise and box office. Where the credits started rolling on the first Iron Man I had chill bumps. When the credits started rolling on black panther I was thinking, ' that was pretty long'.

But they have a great team and I have high hopes for number two. I think black panther will be the first standalone character where #2 is better than#1. I want to set him kicking villain ass. This movie seemed like he mostly fights Wakandans...

Captain America: The Winter Soldier.

You know, that's a fair point. Winter Soldier was quite good. Waaaaay way better than Iron Man 2 or Thor 2.


I really liked the first Cap movie, but Winter Soldier was amazing.  I think it's the only 2nd movie in the series that has been really good so far.
Contrast:
Iron Man 2 (forgettable)
Thor 2 (dreck)
Avengers 2 (meandering)
Cap 2 (Awesome)
GOTG (Pretty good, but not as good as the first one)

I hope Antman 2 (+ Wasp) is good/better than the first but I quite liked the first one.
 
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