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2018-03-06 08:28:03 AM  
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2018-03-06 08:54:16 AM  
Is it being run by Michigan State University alum?
 
2018-03-06 09:08:55 AM  
Maybe they're trying to get the pedos to out themselves with this?  Those who enthusiastically support it get reported?

\or just farking dumbasses
 
2018-03-06 09:09:18 AM  
It's just data, bros. They're going to totally disrupt the pedophilia market, there's just too many middlemen.
 
2018-03-06 09:18:35 AM  
Please dump Facebook. Get rid of your account. I dumped my account a few years ago, and I don't miss it. You are not going to miss your "friends" from high school. You can find funny memes elsewhere on the internet. Cat videos are readily available on other websites. If you haven't talked to a Facebook friend in more than six months, they're not your friend. No one cares about your selfie at the south rim of the Grand Canyon. No, Hillary Clinton is not at the right hand of Satan, despite what the Russian bots post and share.
Facebook is a pointless exercise in vanity. Get rid of it.
 
2018-03-06 09:20:33 AM  

Chris Ween: Is it being run by Michigan State University alum?


Roy Moore.
 
2018-03-06 09:23:46 AM  
Delete your account, Facebook.
 
2018-03-06 09:25:52 AM  

eyeq360: Chris Ween: Is it being run by Michigan State University alum?

Roy Moore.


True.  From what I understood, MSU was encouraging the rape of co-eds.  Alabamy was the one declaring that sex with any girl over 12 a violation of state law and against the express will of Jesus.
 
2018-03-06 09:36:42 AM  
Did a human actually write that question or is this done by a algorithm?
 
2018-03-06 09:37:15 AM  

Bovine Diarrhea Virus: Please dump Facebook. Get rid of your account. I dumped my account a few years ago, and I don't miss it. You are not going to miss your "friends" from high school. You can find funny memes elsewhere on the internet. Cat videos are readily available on other websites. If you haven't talked to a Facebook friend in more than six months, they're not your friend. No one cares about your selfie at the south rim of the Grand Canyon. No, Hillary Clinton is not at the right hand of Satan, despite what the Russian bots post and share.
Facebook is a pointless exercise in vanity. Get rid of it.


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2018-03-06 09:40:51 AM  

Bovine Diarrhea Virus: Please dump Facebook. Get rid of your account. I dumped my account a few years ago, and I don't miss it. You are not going to miss your "friends" from high school. You can find funny memes elsewhere on the internet. Cat videos are readily available on other websites. If you haven't talked to a Facebook friend in more than six months, they're not your friend. No one cares about your selfie at the south rim of the Grand Canyon. No, Hillary Clinton is not at the right hand of Satan, despite what the Russian bots post and share.
Facebook is a pointless exercise in vanity. Get rid of it.


I use it for a couple of writing groups, allowing a few more people to read my tripe. Of course, that is the definition of vanity...

As for the Survey, other than "contact law enforcement" not being on the answer list, the questions were run of the mill.
 
NFA
2018-03-06 09:42:52 AM  
I wonder if their survey question is related to the online drive to legitimize pedophilia, which I've personally blamed on the Russian trolls.

I've seen all sorts of nonsense on social media everything from claims that if we legalize pedophilia, they will feel more comfortable and seek help.  Because it's currently illegal and they fear prosecution.

WTF?  How  about hell no.

To pedophiles are "age fluid" individuals, etc. etc.
 
2018-03-06 09:46:43 AM  
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2018-03-06 09:48:39 AM  
Probably questions tossed into an algorithm refining quiz by some engineers with zero PR savvy.  Facebook, Google and such love to whine that they're just tech companies when they have unexpected (to them) social impact.  Lots of utterly clueless tonedeaf geeks on their staffs.
 
2018-03-06 09:49:06 AM  
Meanwhile, in facebook's PR department...

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2018-03-06 09:49:24 AM  
No. Next question.
 
2018-03-06 09:56:45 AM  
"That was a mistake," Guy Rosen, a vice president of product at Facebook, responded.

"We run surveys to understand how the community thinks about how we set policies," he wrote on Twitter. "But this kind of activity is and will always be completely unacceptable on (Facebook). We regularly work with authorities if identified. It shouldn't have been part of this survey."


Okay, there's kind of a farking massive thing here that isn't addressed, and that's that someone had to write that goddamn question.  Like, consciously think this question was a good idea to ask people on Facebook and could provide useful data, and then write it into the survey.  That person should not be working there any more at the very least.


Read more at: https://phys.org/news/2018-03-faceboo​k​-users-pedophiles-kids-sexual.html#jCp​"We run surveys to understand how the community thinks about how we set policies," he wrote on Twitter. "But this kind of activity is and will always be completely unacceptable on (Facebook). We regularly work with authorities if identified. It shouldn't have been part of this survey."

Read more at: https://phys.org/news/2018-03-faceboo​k​-users-pedophiles-kids-sexual.html#jCp​
 
2018-03-06 09:57:29 AM  
Oh, FFS.  Goddamn copypasta ninja stealth plugs.
 
2018-03-06 09:57:39 AM  
If websites wouldn't stop updating their farking RSS feeds in favor of Social Media postings, I'd be able to ditch Facebook pretty easily.  As it is, a number of sites I want to keep track of (concert venues, etc) just stick to only social media postings now.  So I choose following them on Facebook instead of manually checking each site every day.

Ideally, Google Reader and RSS Feeds in general would come back into fashion and Facebook and the like would fade away.
 
2018-03-06 10:15:39 AM  
I guess they went to Jared.
 
2018-03-06 10:30:06 AM  

NFA: I've seen all sorts of nonsense on social media everything from claims that if we legalize pedophilia, they will feel more comfortable and seek help.  Because it's currently illegal and they fear prosecution.


If they want help, they just need to go to the psychiatrist of their choice.  Being a pedophile is not a crime.  Actually raping a child or having sexual picture/video of a child are crimes.

Burn your (obviously the indefinite 'you', not you 'you') computer's hard-drive and drive to a brain-shinker.  Walk in and tell them "I have been having sexual thoughts about children and I want help".  Now running in with your laptop, popping it open to show the Freud-fellator your 4TB of just the images of nude 4yo Latino boys, and saying "Lookey what I got!" - that ... that would be a bad idea.
 
2018-03-06 10:31:10 AM  

ParanoidRodent: Probably questions tossed into an algorithm refining quiz by some engineers with zero PR savvy.  Facebook, Google and such love to whine that they're just tech companies when they have unexpected (to them) social impact.  Lots of utterly clueless tonedeaf geeks on their staffs.


Lot of 'em here on Fark, too.
 
2018-03-06 10:41:21 AM  

phalamir: eyeq360: Chris Ween: Is it being run by Michigan State University alum?

Roy Moore.

True.  From what I understood, MSU was encouraging the rape of co-eds.  Alabamy was the one declaring that sex with any girl over 12 a violation of state law and against the express will of Jesus.


...over?
 
2018-03-06 10:49:16 AM  
🎶 Stupid stupid stupid
You're stupid all the time
You're stupid
Stupid stupid
If you don't quit actin' stupid
You're gonna mess up your worried mind 🎶

/ one of Junior Brown's best
// He's on tour right now
 
2018-03-06 10:51:16 AM  

Bovine Diarrhea Virus: Please dump Facebook. Get rid of your account. I dumped my account a few years ago, and I don't miss it. You are not going to miss your "friends" from high school. You can find funny memes elsewhere on the internet. Cat videos are readily available on other websites. If you haven't talked to a Facebook friend in more than six months, they're not your friend. No one cares about your selfie at the south rim of the Grand Canyon. No, Hillary Clinton is not at the right hand of Satan, despite what the Russian bots post and share.
Facebook is a pointless exercise in vanity. Get rid of it.


Solid advice. Social media is the devil. And it has ruined civil discourse.
 
2018-03-06 10:55:18 AM  

Psychopusher: "That was a mistake," Guy Rosen, a vice president of product at Facebook, responded.

"We run surveys to understand how the community thinks about how we set policies," he wrote on Twitter. "But this kind of activity is and will always be completely unacceptable on (Facebook). We regularly work with authorities if identified. It shouldn't have been part of this survey."

Okay, there's kind of a farking massive thing here that isn't addressed, and that's that someone had to write that goddamn question.  Like, consciously think this question was a good idea to ask people on Facebook and could provide useful data, and then write it into the survey.  That person should not be working there any more at the very least.


My guess - a bot created it and no one checked it before they sent it out. They probably had a bot create the questions from the existing terms and conditions and plugged in some standard answers and then sent it out without anyone bothering to look at it.
 
2018-03-06 11:09:14 AM  

meanmutton: Psychopusher: "That was a mistake," Guy Rosen, a vice president of product at Facebook, responded.

"We run surveys to understand how the community thinks about how we set policies," he wrote on Twitter. "But this kind of activity is and will always be completely unacceptable on (Facebook). We regularly work with authorities if identified. It shouldn't have been part of this survey."

Okay, there's kind of a farking massive thing here that isn't addressed, and that's that someone had to write that goddamn question.  Like, consciously think this question was a good idea to ask people on Facebook and could provide useful data, and then write it into the survey.  That person should not be working there any more at the very least.

My guess - a bot created it and no one checked it before they sent it out. They probably had a bot create the questions from the existing terms and conditions and plugged in some standard answers and then sent it out without anyone bothering to look at it.


That seems like an awfully specifically-phrased question and scenario for a bot to have created if you ask me.  I know bots are pretty sophisticated these days but that didn't strike me as bot-like in wording or the scenarios it posed.  I could easily be wrong, though, but if a human did create that question, that creepy fark should be out on his ear.
 
2018-03-06 11:12:33 AM  

big pig peaches: Did a human actually write that question or is this done by a algorithm?


It's very clearly a standard set of multiple choice answers that are provided and most likely Facebook was looking for more feedback on how hands-on the community wants it to be in policing that sort of thing, which isn't entirely unreasonable since any direct solution on their end is liable to involve privacy issues, and whoever inserted the question into the form likely didn't think about how the standard form responses of the lead-in question would "look" when paired with that situation.


I literally never use Facebook, but this seems like it was blown out of proportion to what actually happened.
 
2018-03-06 11:26:41 AM  

meanmutton: My guess - a bot created it and no one checked it before they sent it out.


My wager is this was some low wage employee in another country, India or China maybe?   The cultural differences and communication gap would explain the misunderstandings about what is acceptable and what isn't.

Youtube had been having a moderation problem due to the sheer volume of posts and the general lacking capability in its filters. Rumor had it they allowed SPLC volunteers, who aren't exactly unbiased mods. This would have lead to alot of non-offencive videos being yanked for political reasons.
It's just as likely, probably far more likely, they hired a warehouse full of foreign workers to do the job on the cheap. With no clear rulebook and using their local judgement, they'd likely filter things in ways that seem unusually biased to us.
 
2018-03-06 11:34:54 AM  
I suppose it could be a honeypot for guys that respond "fark yeah, 14 yr old girlz are hot!" or "Statutory rape laws are arbitrary!" but that's giving Facebook too much credit.
 
2018-03-06 11:35:12 AM  

big pig peaches: Did a human actually write that question or is this done by a algorithm?


TFA says the question was about an "adult". Subby says the question was about a "pedophile".
 
2018-03-06 12:22:27 PM  

phalamir: NFA: I've seen all sorts of nonsense on social media everything from claims that if we legalize pedophilia, they will feel more comfortable and seek help.  Because it's currently illegal and they fear prosecution.

If they want help, they just need to go to the psychiatrist of their choice.  Being a pedophile is not a crime.  Actually raping a child or having sexual picture/video of a child are crimes.

Burn your (obviously the indefinite 'you', not you 'you') computer's hard-drive and drive to a brain-shinker.  Walk in and tell them "I have been having sexual thoughts about children and I want help".  Now running in with your laptop, popping it open to show the Freud-fellator your 4TB of just the images of nude 4yo Latino boys, and saying "Lookey what I got!" - that ... that would be a bad idea.


Most pedophiles will get reported to the police if they tell a psychiatrist, which is why they don't do it.
 
2018-03-06 12:43:47 PM  

SpaceyCat: Maybe they're trying to get the pedos to out themselves with this?  Those who enthusiastically support it get reported?

\or just farking dumbasses


I was assuming was a "totes not a cop"
 
2018-03-06 12:47:19 PM  

NFA: I wonder if their survey question is related to the online drive to legitimize pedophilia, which I've personally blamed on the Russian trolls.

I've seen all sorts of nonsense on social media everything from claims that if we legalize pedophilia, they will feel more comfortable and seek help.  Because it's currently illegal and they fear prosecution.

WTF?  How  about hell no.

To pedophiles are "age fluid" individuals, etc. etc.


Well after legalizing gay marriage and now the Pescabestialist agenda has been mainstreamed with a goddamn Best Picture Oscar.

They laughed with the turtle farking jokes but I don't see anyone laughing now.
 
2018-03-06 12:55:20 PM  
"That was a mistake," Guy Rosen, a vice president of product at Facebook, responded.

lolno. I do believe you more than used up your "mistake" quota on letting russia subvert americans into voting for a hideous orange Jabba The Hutt reject. Try again, slappy.
 
2018-03-06 01:13:40 PM  
That seems perfectly reasonable.
 
2018-03-06 02:33:14 PM  
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2018-03-06 02:46:22 PM  
Well, people who make surveys do sometimes put in questions to test if people are paying attention / taking the survey seriously. They are questions where you assume all people taking the survey seriously will choose one answer, and they use these to discard the entire questionnaire for people who fail.

That said, it's a pretty charged question to use as an attention check.
 
2018-03-06 03:00:32 PM  
Hey, pedos are a significant portion of Facebook users. They don't want to throw that income away if they don't have to.

Imagine if Twitter kicked off all the racist assholes. They'd have to shut down. I'm convinced Twitter is now mostly racist assholes, corporations and bots.
 
2018-03-06 03:15:21 PM  

way south: Meanwhile, in facebook's PR department...

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Jesus tittyfarking Christ, they are the worst PR people on the goddam earth. Yes, worse than Huckabeast.
 
2018-03-06 03:31:11 PM  

WelldeadLink: big pig peaches: Did a human actually write that question or is this done by a algorithm?

TFA says the question was about an "adult". Subby says the question was about a "pedophile".


What kind of adult asks underaged kids for sexually themed photos?
Pedophiles, that's who.
 
2018-03-06 05:33:51 PM  

Bovine Diarrhea Virus: Please dump Facebook. Get rid of your account. I dumped my account a few years ago, and I don't miss it. You are not going to miss your "friends" from high school. You can find funny memes elsewhere on the internet. Cat videos are readily available on other websites. If you haven't talked to a Facebook friend in more than six months, they're not your friend. No one cares about your selfie at the south rim of the Grand Canyon. No, Hillary Clinton is not at the right hand of Satan, despite what the Russian bots post and share.
Facebook is a pointless exercise in vanity. Get rid of it.


I use it as a way to talk and quickly share different media with actual friends and family across the country. Only 2 or 3 pages show up on my timeline, ones I actually read or take part in regularly. I think I have 30 some odd friends.

If facebook seems like a cesspit or a vanity thing, that comes entirely from the users choices and acquantices.

If I'm still bad or wrong cause I'm inadvertently supporting evil or something, my bad I guess. But other than that FB can be fine.
 
2018-03-07 02:48:35 PM  
I am assume it is this:

"If someone solicits sexual pictures of a 14 year old in a private message should Facebook send this to the police?" = 98% vote yes

Facebook: "People overwhelmingly want us to spy on their private messages. In a recent survey 98% of the respondents were in favor of us reading their private messages and sharing them with interested parties."
 
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