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2018-03-06 07:58:37 AM  
They can get Danny Elfman.
 
2018-03-06 08:22:04 AM  
That's dumb. He can just keep recycling the scores and continue cashing those big paychecks. It's what the script writers are doing after all.

Can't wait to see the giant Galaxykiller Base they go up against in Part IX. And Kylo Ren is gonna have a totally pimped out lightsaber...

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2018-03-06 08:29:18 AM  
Darth Vader 'nooooooooooooooooooo' jpg
 
2018-03-06 08:41:27 AM  
Duel of the Fates was how many years ago...
 
2018-03-06 08:43:46 AM  
John Williams has had quite enough Star Wars.

Haven't we all.
 
2018-03-06 08:43:49 AM  
They should just realize what they are and go full space western. Bring in Ennio Morricone.
 
2018-03-06 08:45:48 AM  

Farking Clown Shoes: That's dumb. He can just keep recycling the scores and continue cashing those big paychecks. It's what the script writers are doing after all.

Can't wait to see the giant Galaxykiller Base they go up against in Part IX. And Kylo Ren is gonna have a totally pimped out lightsaber...

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He's in his 80s. The big paychecks don't mean as much when you have a lot less time to spend them.
 
2018-03-06 08:46:10 AM  
FTA-"In an interview with KUSC (by way of NME)..."

This illustrates internet news perfectly. It is all third or fourth hand hearsay.
 
2018-03-06 08:49:28 AM  

stoli n coke: He's in his 80s. The big paychecks don't mean as much when you have a lot less time to spend them.


That's where my thoughts were.
 
2018-03-06 08:50:37 AM  
I hate to say it, but most of his work has been self parody since.... Jurassic Park. That is his last real work of art.
 
2018-03-06 08:55:37 AM  

ThatBillmanGuy: I hate to say it, but most of his work has been self parody ripping off Holst

 
2018-03-06 08:57:02 AM  

Another Government Employee: FTA-"In an interview with KUSC (by way of NME)..."

This illustrates internet news perfectly. It is all third or fourth hand hearsay.


How is that different than any other media?
 
2018-03-06 09:01:17 AM  
Didn't he go and retire in the early 90's and it took Lucas to get him back in the game with the prequels?
 
2018-03-06 09:01:49 AM  

Snapper Carr: ThatBillmanGuy: I hate to say it, but most of his work has been self parody ripping off Holst


Ha ha. But I actually like that when it done right.

The Last Crusade film score is one of my favorites of his, as it sounds like your standard movie score and a classical music piece get into a fight with each other and then have to work together by the end.

Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade Soundtrack - 10. Belly Of The Steel Beast
Youtube PW36qWZ2JZk
 
2018-03-06 09:03:27 AM  

Snapper Carr: ThatBillmanGuy: I hate to say it, but most of his work has been self parody ripping off Holst


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There's a lot of late 19th-early 20th century British in there. A lot.
/Also, Ravel
//And, Wagner
///And, Strauss.
 
2018-03-06 09:04:01 AM  
The next film is supposed to be the end of the Skywalker saga.  Seems as good a place as any to call it a day.
 
2018-03-06 09:09:32 AM  
Zimmer will take over the franchise.

Get ready for Episode X: Return of the BWAAAAAAM
 
2018-03-06 09:21:36 AM  

brainlordmesomorph: Haven't we all.


Nope.  The last one pulled in $1.3B, and it's still in the gravy stages.  Home media release begins next week with digital versions, and disc versions hit two weeks after.  Projections expect it to be the largest home media release of the year, adding $150M+.

Regardless of backlashes, the franchise is still a license to print money.  Even a couple of terrible prequel movies didn't slow the freight train.  People still can't get enough.
 
2018-03-06 09:32:22 AM  

Skarekrough: Didn't he go and retire in the early 90's and it took Lucas to get him back in the game with the prequels?


No, he's done the score for almost all of Spielberg's movies.
 
2018-03-06 09:36:09 AM  

stoli n coke: Skarekrough: Didn't he go and retire in the early 90's and it took Lucas to get him back in the game with the prequels?

No, he's done the score for almost all of Spielberg's movies.


And in the 90s, he was also the go-to composer for Oliver Stone.
 
2018-03-06 09:39:31 AM  
The Long Goodbye (1973) Theme-High Quality
Youtube OuXkmg4cKso


Best John Williams.
 
2018-03-06 09:40:37 AM  

ThatBillmanGuy: I hate to say it, but most of his work has been self parody since.... Jurassic Park. That is his last real work of art.


The prequels came out after Jurassic Park.  Say what you will about their everything else, but the music was spot on.  Duel of the Fates was amazing.
 
2018-03-06 09:43:02 AM  

yakmans_dad: [Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/OuXkmg4c​Kso]

Best John Williams.


From the same score:
Marlowe in Mexico - The Long Goodbye (1973)
Youtube i1cVsM1EFH8
 
2018-03-06 09:45:51 AM  

Dalek Caan's doomed mistress: ThatBillmanGuy: I hate to say it, but most of his work has been self parody since.... Jurassic Park. That is his last real work of art.

The prequels came out after Jurassic Park.  Say what you will about their everything else, but the music was spot on.  Duel of the Fates was amazing.


His scores for Schindler's List and Munich were terrific.
 
2018-03-06 09:48:11 AM  
I'm sure we;ll be hearing the main theme, the Imperial March, and other favorites for a long, long, time.  John Williams has written music that will be remembered long after all the hand wringing over the current trilogy is forgotten.

And I'd say completing the three trilogy arc is enough.  Rogue One didn't have a JW score, and people still went to see it.
 
2018-03-06 09:57:59 AM  
About damn time. The score for The Last Jedi was terrible
 
2018-03-06 10:06:20 AM  

BalugaJoe: They can get Danny Elfman.


Don't let his goofy circus music near Star Wars.
 
2018-03-06 10:10:00 AM  
Seems as good a time as any for Ol Brassy to hang up his string flourishes.

// you either die a genius or live long enough to become self-parody
 
2018-03-06 10:10:06 AM  

Farking Clown Shoes: It's what the script writers are doing after all.


I like how the complaints about TLJ are 50% "It's too different!" and 50% "It's too the same!"
 
2018-03-06 10:11:47 AM  

Khellendros: Even a couple of terrible prequel movies didn't slow the freight train.


It did slow it.

Episode II was the only Star Wars film not to win the box office in its year*.

/* -- Sith won domestic, but lost international to Harry Potter.
 
2018-03-06 10:15:46 AM  

Fireproof: Farking Clown Shoes: It's what the script writers are doing after all.

I like how the complaints about TLJ are 50% "It's too different!" and 50% "It's too the same!"


I'm really looking forward to seeing it.  It can't be both, can it?
 
2018-03-06 10:26:38 AM  

yakmans_dad: [Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/OuXkmg4c​Kso]

Best John Williams.


Perhaps, but Elliott Gould is no Humphrey Bogart.
 
2018-03-06 10:27:59 AM  

This text is now purple: Khellendros: Even a couple of terrible prequel movies didn't slow the freight train.

It did slow it.

Episode II was the only Star Wars film not to win the box office in its year*.

/* -- Sith won domestic, but lost international to Harry Potter.


That's not a useful measure of slowness.  Episode II still made 5.5x its budget, and is among the top 100 grossing films of all time, both in adjusted (96th) and unadjusted (66th) dollars.  It just happens to be the weakest release out of the 9 primary feature films.  One of them had to be at the bottom.

Historically, it exceeds Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade, Terminator II, Harry Potter Deathly Hallows pt 2, Civil War, Aladdin, and Frozen in adjusted dollars, all of which are major financial powerhouses of their studio, if not the outright #1 of their franchise.

It's a bad movie, but it didn't slow them down.
 
2018-03-06 10:36:55 AM  
So only Indiana Jones from here on out.
 
2018-03-06 10:40:04 AM  
When an 86 year old man says "that will be quite enough for me", then it's enough.
 
2018-03-06 10:40:50 AM  
Star Wars - Duel of the Fates (Sing-Along)
Youtube qFDT2L5bPFI


/nothing further to add
 
2018-03-06 10:45:29 AM  

Fireproof: Farking Clown Shoes: It's what the script writers are doing after all.

I like how the complaints about TLJ are 50% "It's too different!" and 50% "It's too the same!"


Thaaaaank you! The fat useless farks don't know what they want. The best thing Disney can do is discard them and their idiotic opinions.
 
2018-03-06 10:51:31 AM  

Khellendros: That's not a useful measure of slowness.  Episode II still made 5.5x its budget, and is among the top 100 grossing films of all time, both in adjusted (96th) and unadjusted (66th) dollars.  It just happens to be the weakest release out of the 9 primary feature films


That often happens with the middle child in a trilogy. Empire was the lowest grossing of the originals.
 
2018-03-06 10:53:02 AM  

Great_Milenko: Fireproof: Farking Clown Shoes: It's what the script writers are doing after all.

I like how the complaints about TLJ are 50% "It's too different!" and 50% "It's too the same!"

I'm really looking forward to seeing it.  It can't be both, can it?


IMHO, it's more different than the same. I think the "It's the same!" complainers just want to hate any new Star Wars and are parroting the main criticism of TFA without thinking about it.
 
2018-03-06 10:53:49 AM  

Dalek Caan's doomed mistress: ThatBillmanGuy: I hate to say it, but most of his work has been self parody since.... Jurassic Park. That is his last real work of art.

The prequels came out after Jurassic Park.  Say what you will about their everything else, but the music was spot on.  Duel of the Fates was amazing.


Farkin' A, man! Farkin A. That theme kicked ass.
 
2018-03-06 10:54:28 AM  
John Williams is a hack!
He steals everything he writes from classical composers.
Star Wars - wow, you can plagiarize Messiaen! Jaws - wow, you've heard Dvorak's New Worldsymphony, too!
 
2018-03-06 10:58:29 AM  

Barricaded Gunman: yakmans_dad: [Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/OuXkmg4c​Kso]

Best John Williams.

Perhaps, but Elliott Gould is no Humphrey Bogart.


Annnnnd...that would be the point.
 
2018-03-06 10:59:39 AM  

Khellendros: This text is now purple: Khellendros: Even a couple of terrible prequel movies didn't slow the freight train.

It did slow it.

Episode II was the only Star Wars film not to win the box office in its year*.

/* -- Sith won domestic, but lost international to Harry Potter.

That's not a useful measure of slowness.  Episode II still made 5.5x its budget...
It's a bad movie, but it didn't slow them down.


Star Wars made 60x its budget. Jedi made 15x.

Star Wars is a goddamn juggernaut. But Episodes II and III brought franchise performance back to the pack. It still made obscene gobs of money, but not nearly at the rate the better films did.
 
2018-03-06 11:06:37 AM  

This text is now purple: Star Wars is a goddamn juggernaut. But Episodes II and III brought franchise performance back to the pack. It still made obscene gobs of money, but not nearly at the rate the better films did.


What competition did Episode 4 and 6 have? Annie Hall and Jaws 3D? The Prequels had Lord of the Rings and Harry Potter to deal with.
 
2018-03-06 11:09:31 AM  

Khellendros: This text is now purple: Khellendros: Even a couple of terrible prequel movies didn't slow the freight train.

It did slow it.

Episode II was the only Star Wars film not to win the box office in its year*.

/* -- Sith won domestic, but lost international to Harry Potter.


That's not a useful measure of slowness.  Episode II still made 5.5x its budget, and is among the top 100 grossing films of all time, both in adjusted (96th) and unadjusted (66th) dollars.  It just happens to be the weakest release out of the 9 primary feature films.  One of them had to be at the bottom.


And coming after the hot garbage that was Phantom Menace, that's like winning a marathon wearing ankle weights.
 
2018-03-06 11:14:02 AM  

captjc: Dalek Caan's doomed mistress: ThatBillmanGuy: I hate to say it, but most of his work has been self parody since.... Jurassic Park. That is his last real work of art.

The prequels came out after Jurassic Park.  Say what you will about their everything else, but the music was spot on.  Duel of the Fates was amazing.

Farkin' A, man! Farkin A. That theme kicked ass.


A friend of mine from my Star Trek days actually made the "lyric video" for Duel of the Fates:
Star Wars - Duel of the Fates (Sing-Along)
Youtube qFDT2L5bPFI
 
2018-03-06 11:19:57 AM  
John faggot person
Youtube hxDOSTtMxBA

(Couldn't find a better version on youtube)
 
2018-03-06 11:20:59 AM  

Dr Dreidel: And coming after the hot garbage that was Phantom Menace, that's like winning a marathon wearing ankle weights.


As much shiat as it gets (and no, it wasn't the greatest movie ever), a movie doesn't make that much bank without repeat business so someone liked it.
 
2018-03-06 11:22:43 AM  

abriggs1: About damn time. The score for The Last Jedi was terrible


They all have been since the prequels. There have been flashes of brilliance in each like Duel of the Fates and Rey's Theme, but he largely abandoned his former leitmotif style in favor of more traditional film scores. And as a result, he isn't all that distinguishable from any other composer.

I don't understand why composers dislike leitmotif so much. It may make for boring concerts, but it is perfect for film scores. Repeating melodies for specific characters or locations helps stimulate sound-dominant viewers' enjoyment of movies. The last conductor to really use it was Howard Shore in the LOTR trilogy.
 
2018-03-06 11:28:06 AM  

clkeagle: abriggs1: About damn time. The score for The Last Jedi was terrible

They all have been since the prequels. There have been flashes of brilliance in each like Duel of the Fates and Rey's Theme, but he largely abandoned his former leitmotif style in favor of more traditional film scores. And as a result, he isn't all that distinguishable from any other composer.

I don't understand why composers dislike leitmotif so much. It may make for boring concerts, but it is perfect for film scores. Repeating melodies for specific characters or locations helps stimulate sound-dominant viewers' enjoyment of movies. The last conductor to really use it was Howard Shore in the LOTR trilogy.


I would like to argue that Alan Silvestri still can do a consistant motiff for a film score (Like Captain America, which he also bled stuff from that into the Avengers)

and Michael Giacchino, who, while I find he's mostly just emulating other people, he does a damn good job of it.
 
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