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(Engadget)   MoviePass helps you watch movies. MoviePass also watches you go home from the movies   ( engadget.com) divider line
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2018-03-06 05:40:38 AM  
I'd pay good money for a phone OS  that actually really denies these things from doing anything more then what I explicitly let them do.

I have one of the original One Plus Ones that's got the Cyanogen OS, it at least prompts me when an app wants to do something extra but frankly I still don't trust that its actually stopping them from silently scraping my contact list & locational history etc.
 
2018-03-06 07:59:11 AM  
One of the reasons that if a company has a website with the same functionality, i won't use their app.  Apps are dangerous with what access to your they can get.  I'm sure the browser on my phone does some weird things but it has to be a wee bit safer than an app.
 
2018-03-06 08:00:19 AM  

toetag: Apps are dangerous with what access to your they can get.


Why isn't there an edit function after all these years.....sigh.

Apps are dangerous with what access to your phone, they can get.
 
2018-03-06 08:35:04 AM  
This is one of the reasons I won't use an app if I don't have too.

I'm not sure I completely trust the version of Sudoku I use, but I go no where and buy nothing, so they get (mostly) nothing from me!
 
2018-03-06 08:53:13 AM  
iPhone:
Settings - General - Restrictions - Location Services

Set each app as you want. Except for the bare minimum that need background access like Maps and Find iPhone I set them to Never or While Using. Added bonus- set "Don't Allow Changes" at the top will prevent the nag screens from popping up begging you to change the setting.

Fark you Google/Android, it is this simple. Oh, and Fark you (sorta) Uber for taking away "While Using"... it was a momentary dark spot in time that made Apple realize how awful app developers are and they've since taken away you're little evil prize, so in the end the users still win the arms race.
 
2018-03-06 09:16:11 AM  

toetag: One of the reasons that if a company has a website with the same functionality, i won't use their app.  Apps are dangerous with what access to your they can get.  I'm sure the browser on my phone does some weird things but it has to be a wee bit safer than an app.


Unfortunately, MoviePass does everything via the app. Their website is just advertising and sign-up. After that, you can't even access your user account without an app.

It makes it particularly annoying when you're trying to work with billing issues.
 
2018-03-06 10:09:44 AM  
Greenify is an app that will let you shut down background apps.

Useful for when your apps like to hang around after you close them.
 
2018-03-06 10:42:55 AM  
So they are exactly like Google, Amazon, and Facebook?
 
2018-03-06 10:47:56 AM  

Opacity: Oh, and Fark you (sorta) Uber


Uber has a bunch of awful things, but one of the most annoying to me is that they use the notifications to send out marketing messages. Always around am in the time zone you live in - note, not the time zone you happen to be in at the time.

I gave you permission to notify when my ride arrives, not to shove some $2 off coupon at me, and I really don't need it going off a couple of hours before I need to be awake (and yes, sometimes my phone has to be on for work reasons)
 
2018-03-06 11:23:29 AM  
As long as it's not like "the fast and the furious" 17 years ago.  People were inspired to wrap their cars around all kinds of inanimate objects thanks to that.

Hilarious, but still...
 
2018-03-06 01:01:30 PM  

toetag: One of the reasons that if a company has a website with the same functionality, i won't use their app.  Apps are dangerous with what access to your they can get.  I'm sure the browser on my phone does some weird things but it has to be a wee bit safer than an app.


Use a faraday bag. You can get them on Amazon for cheap.
 
2018-03-06 02:30:01 PM  
Movie Pass made Helios and Matherson Analytics a fun volatile stock to buy and sell, I've made a lot of money on it.  Turned $70 into $3,300 real quick but it hasn't done much in the past couple of weeks.
 
2018-03-06 03:22:35 PM  
I have Moviepass and I like it.  I've seen so many more movies than I otherwise would have, and if the movie sucks I don't feel bad for blowing 12 bucks on it.

This is mildly unsettling but not surprising.  If their response is true and they are just exploring location-based marketing then I suppose there's no harm no foul.

But really... you have to be within 100 yards of the theater the movie is playing at to use the app.  After your movie if a restaurant near the theater has a "show us your Moviepass stub and get 20% off" - if they're up front that they are going to track your location and do that sort of thing, what's the big deal?

I know that's a big "if" but if you're paying ten bucks a month for virtually unlimited movies there has to be something else going on.  And as mentioned above it's not like Facebook/Amazon/Google don't have all of that stuff already anyways.
 
2018-03-06 05:13:46 PM  
I usually keep my location services & GPS turned off, only turning it on explicitly when I need it for like MoviePass or Waze. For Moviepass, I'll turn Location on when I get into the theater parking lot, and I turn it off again right after I get my (movie) ticket.  I see no benefit whatsoever to keep Location services turned on all the time.
 
2018-03-06 05:19:01 PM  

GrailOfThunder:   I see no benefit whatsoever to keep Location services turned on all the time.


The benefit is if you lose your phone, you can find it.
 
2018-03-06 05:56:00 PM  

Pats_Cloth_Coat: GrailOfThunder:   I see no benefit whatsoever to keep Location services turned on all the time.

The benefit is if you lose your phone, you can find it.


Not enough to give away everything for free.

If someone stole it, they likely know what they are doing and will shut the phone off.

If I lost it, it's likely at work or my house
 
2018-03-06 07:12:08 PM  
Like I've said repeatedly - you have no goddamned idea just how much your personal data, no matter how trivial, is worth to others, and they will gather every last bit of it if you let them.

If you just believed what they said about their usage pattern, you're farking gullible as hell.
 
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