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2018-03-04 08:03:17 PM  
Bills of Attainder?  In MY corrupt administration?
It's all but guaranteed, because this clown car is full of farking toddlers.
 
2018-03-04 09:42:14 PM  
I'm starting to think this Trump character might be some kind of asshole that surrounds himself with even worse flavors of asshole
 
2018-03-04 10:02:53 PM  
So much for the government not "picking winners and losers".
 
2018-03-05 12:48:45 AM  

poorjon: I'm starting to think this Trump character might be some kind of asshole that surrounds himself with even worse flavors of asshole


I'm on the fence about voting for him.
 
2018-03-05 01:24:25 AM  
I refuse to keep discussing this clusterf*ck embarrassment of an administration at the current time. I hope that this unrelated content is enjoyable instead:

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2018-03-05 01:51:18 AM  
Isn't that communist?
 
2018-03-05 01:54:44 AM  

KodosZardoz: Isn't that communist?


The Republican party colour is red, sooooo....
 
2018-03-05 01:56:21 AM  
Is he going to target Gibson Guitars the way Obama did?
 
2018-03-05 01:57:18 AM  
Can't wait for him to take credit for the stock market tomorrow!
 
2018-03-05 01:59:50 AM  
Wow, it's almost like electing a corrupt, politically-inexperienced businessman as President might be a bad farking idea. If only we'd learned that a century or so ago.
 
2018-03-05 02:00:50 AM  
TFA doesn't actually say that. :/

Tariff exemptions will be available for some products, just as they were for the Bush tariffs.

It's basically a red tape bonanza.
 
2018-03-05 02:05:56 AM  
All steel producing countries should team up and refuse to sell ANY to the USA, just for fun. See how long the tariffs last after that.
 
2018-03-05 02:07:43 AM  

Not_Todd: Is he going to target Gibson Guitars the way Obama did?


Why, did they break the law again?

m.csmonitor.com/Business/2012/0807/Gib​son-Guitar-Corporation-admits-to-impor​ting-endangered-wood
 
2018-03-05 02:16:53 AM  
Maybe tariffs will be the cause of a civil war for the first time in nation's history...
 
2018-03-05 02:17:38 AM  

Sid_6.7: I refuse to keep discussing this clusterf*ck embarrassment of an administration at the current time. I hope that this unrelated content is enjoyable instead:

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I enjoyed that.
 
2018-03-05 02:18:02 AM  
"The White House continued to sow uncertainty on Sunday about the stiff tariffs President Trump said he would impose on steel and aluminum imports as key advisers defended the policy but left room for the president to change his plans."

Well they kind of have to don't they seeing as how Trump has all the consistency of a fart in a windstorm.
 
2018-03-05 02:19:55 AM  
Oh my farking God. We really are going to have to bring out Mme. LeFarge, her needles, caps, and the tumbrels on this jack-leg idiot, aren't we?

(Cat I should buy a boat)
And some turnips and cabbages to age so I have a bandwagon business along Pennsylvania Ave., to sell to everyone watching him roll by in chains, writhing and pissing himself. Hey, business opportunity.
 
2018-03-05 02:24:05 AM  

LordJiro: Wow, it's almost like electing a corrupt, politically-inexperienced businessman as President might be a bad farking idea. If only we'd learned that a century or so ago.


I propose that this dillweed can no longer be called a 'businessman'. He never really was, isn't now, and won't be one. He's always been a deplorable, grifting, smarmy, con man.

That ain't business and it isn't good for us.

(Maybe I shouldn't have watched Goodfellas again the other night)
 
2018-03-05 02:36:38 AM  

baxterdog: LordJiro: Wow, it's almost like electing a corrupt, politically-inexperienced businessman as President might be a bad farking idea. If only we'd learned that a century or so ago.

I propose that this dillweed can no longer be called a 'businessman'. He never really was, isn't now, and won't be one. He's always been a deplorable, grifting, smarmy, con man.

That ain't business and it isn't good for us.

(Maybe I shouldn't have watched Goodfellas again the other night)


yes well swindlers never like to put their true profession on a business card...
 
2018-03-05 02:39:57 AM  

sunderland56: All steel producing countries should team up and refuse to sell ANY to the USA, just for fun. See how long the tariffs last after that.


Not necessary. Being Canadian, and in Southern Ontario, I do worry about what this will mean for our economy, but the reality is this is going to hurt you as much and probably MORE than us.  It's not like the US is going to magically have more steel or be able to increase production on a whim. The steel will still be bought from Canada (and elsewhere) , and the American consumers will pay the increased price.

/then you'll be sorry.
//you'll all be sorry.
 
2018-03-05 02:55:14 AM  

PartTimeBuddha: TFA doesn't actually say that. :/

Tariff exemptions will be available for some products, just as they were for the Bush tariffs.

It's basically a red tape bonanza.


Red tape is bad, it is gubment interference. So, let's eliminate the offices and jobs that push through exemptions, and make everyone exempt. So we have tariffs, but no enforcement. MAGAnificent
 
2018-03-05 02:55:44 AM  
Felt like playing an oldie and put Tropico 4 on an aged laptop this weekend. (Comical Sim Dictator of a fictional Latin American banana republic, where corruption and actual governing have to be balanced to stay in power and achieve mission tasks).

After an hour, I was thinking, fark, the Trump administration is more ridiculous than El Presidente/La Presidenta and his/her idiot advisers. And I maxed out on having Tourette's on my character for pay-per-view State of the Union bonuses.

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2018-03-05 02:56:30 AM  
Great. American foreign policy is now a protection racket. Next up, bodies in the river.
 
2018-03-05 03:14:36 AM  
There's going to be a class at Wharton about this guy.
 
2018-03-05 03:23:03 AM  

UsikFark: There's going to be a class at Wharton about this guy.


The question is whether it's going to be a lionizing and praising course enforced by jackbooted thugs or a group of nuclear war survivors teaching each other about what parts of a politician you can eat.
 
2018-03-05 03:29:56 AM  
Nothing says conservative like the feds dictating company policy to corporations.
 
2018-03-05 03:30:45 AM  
"Whatever his final decision is, is what will happen," Mr. Ross said on NBC's "Meet the Press." "What he has said he has said. If he says something different, it'll be something different."
"If he for some reason should change his mind, then it will change,"


We'll, that certainly clears things up for me. It's good to have an administration that talks to the public in plain English. Straight shooters. Not like Obama and all his "policy" talk.
 
2018-03-05 03:34:42 AM  
Anyone else getting a whiff that someone told Republican President Trump that the money for tariffs goes DIRECTLY into the treasury and that it's likely to be able to be used at his discretion since it's not 'officially' part of the Federal Budget?
 
2018-03-05 03:36:57 AM  
Not what it says. What they're going to do is, as the Obama administration did with Obamacare, is exempt certain favored entities from the rules imposed on everyone else. Is that suddenly a bad thing now that a Republican is doing it?
 
2018-03-05 03:38:41 AM  
FTA: "As soon as he starts exempting countries, he has to raise the tariff on everybody else," Mr. Navarro said on "Fox News Sunday." "As soon as he exempts one country, his phone starts ringing from the heads of state of other countries."

The only reason you'd raise the tariff on others after exempting some is if you were trying to maximize the amount of money you wanted to raise FROM the tariff instead of using it as an economic and political tool for dealing with other countries.
 
2018-03-05 03:40:24 AM  
I'm pretty sure that's extremely farking illegal, but I guess that no longer matters.
 
2018-03-05 03:43:13 AM  

wood0366: FTA: "As soon as he starts exempting countries, he has to raise the tariff on everybody else," Mr. Navarro said on "Fox News Sunday." "As soon as he exempts one country, his phone starts ringing from the heads of state of other countries."

The only reason you'd raise the tariff on others after exempting some is if you were trying to maximize the amount of money you wanted to raise FROM the tariff instead of using it as an economic and political tool for dealing with other countries.


^ That, really. But the purpose of the tariff isn't as an antidumping measure; it's to rebalance the whole of US manufacturing industry -- shifting to a less economically efficient model for the purpose of national society.
 
2018-03-05 03:46:21 AM  

Unscratchable_Itch: Great. American foreign policy is now a protection racket. Next up, bodies in the river.


"That's a nice industry, you've got there. It would be a shame if something happened to it."

I really hope one of the strands that Mueller is pulling on is Donnie's suspected Mob links.
 
2018-03-05 03:51:18 AM  

jjorsett: Not what it says. What they're going to do is, as the Obama administration did with Obamacare, is exempt certain favored entities from the rules imposed on everyone else. Is that suddenly a bad thing now that a Republican is doing it?


Are you okay? That was such a reach that my shoulder hurts for you.
 
2018-03-05 04:04:00 AM  
Hmm, a guy who wants to help blue collar workers by providing government protection to industries for the collective welfare, in order to advance a patriotic agenda.

It's as though Trump trying to turn the GOP into some sort of Worker's Socialistic Nationalism Party or something.
 
2018-03-05 04:11:39 AM  

ansius: Hmm, a guy who wants to help blue collar workers by providing government protection to industries for the collective welfare, in order to advance a patriotic agenda.

It's as though Trump trying to turn the GOP into some sort of Worker's Socialistic Nationalism Party or something.


Next he'll be saying how much he prefers people from Northern European countries because they're more superior than people from more Equatorial countries.
 
2018-03-05 04:13:49 AM  

ansius: Hmm, a guy who wants to help blue collar workers by providing government protection to industries for the collective welfare, in order to advance a patriotic agenda.

It's as though Trump trying to turn the GOP into some sort of Worker's Socialistic Nationalism Party or something.


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2018-03-05 04:28:14 AM  

Not_Todd: Is he going to target Gibson Guitars the way Obama did?


Is he going to drown a girl the way Kennedy did? Those damn Democrats! They ruin everything!
Whatabout that!!
 
2018-03-05 04:31:03 AM  

wood0366: jjorsett: Not what it says. What they're going to do is, as the Obama administration did with Obamacare, is exempt certain favored entities from the rules imposed on everyone else. Is that suddenly a bad thing now that a Republican is doing it?

Are you okay? That was such a reach that my shoulder hurts for you.


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2018-03-05 05:31:50 AM  
Wow, they really love that Constitution, don't they?
 
2018-03-05 05:55:00 AM  

Duke of Madness Motors: Nothing says conservative like the feds dictating company policy to corporations.


"Trust me, it works!"

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2018-03-05 06:29:33 AM  

saberXray: sunderland56: All steel producing countries should team up and refuse to sell ANY to the USA, just for fun. See how long the tariffs last after that.

Not necessary. Being Canadian, and in Southern Ontario, I do worry about what this will mean for our economy, but the reality is this is going to hurt you as much and probably MORE than us.  It's not like the US is going to magically have more steel or be able to increase production on a whim. The steel will still be bought from Canada (and elsewhere) , and the American consumers will pay the increased price.

/then you'll be sorry.
//you'll all be sorry.


So we'll know what it feels like to be Canadian then, eh?

/Sorry.
 
2018-03-05 06:39:43 AM  

downstairs: Duke of Madness Motors: Nothing says conservative like the feds dictating company policy to corporations.

"Trust me, it works!"

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What I love about using Venezuela as an example is that It's the one brought up the most by right wing types to claim socialism doesn't work. What they don't realize is that the specific policies that wrecked Venezuela's economy were the protectionist ones.
 
2018-03-05 06:59:34 AM  

Sid_6.7: I refuse to keep discussing this clusterf*ck embarrassment of an administration at the current time. I hope that this unrelated content is enjoyable instead:

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That actually had me laughing like an idiot.
 
2018-03-05 07:12:02 AM  

sunderland56: All steel producing countries should team up and refuse to sell ANY to the USA, just for fun. See how long the tariffs last after that.


A steel embargo of the US like the old oil embargoes?

The tariffs would crumble, along with our economy. . .and Trump and the GOP would be standing there blaming Democrats for the whole thing.  Republicans would listen and think this is all the fault of Democrats. . .and the people who already hate Trump would still hate him.
 
2018-03-05 07:16:39 AM  
9 dimensional chess. Checkmix, libtardos.
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2018-03-05 08:00:21 AM  

KodosZardoz: Isn't that communist?


No!  It's example #1,123,563 of "It's okay when we do it."
 
2018-03-05 08:33:17 AM  
Boy howdy...let's hear it for the "Invisible Hand" amirite?
 
2018-03-05 08:53:32 AM  

KodosZardoz: Isn't that communist?


Feudalism.

Trump sees the world as a series of personal "deals" (so sick of that word). He thinks the government is his personal property and people must owe him, flatter him, give him loyalty, and please him to earn favorable treatment from the government.
 
2018-03-05 09:00:33 AM  

Dictatorial_Flair: I'm pretty sure that's extremely farking illegal, but I guess that no longer matters.


Republicans have shown that laws are meaningless if they're not enforced.
 
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