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(Gizmodo)   A look back at the best Star Trek series of all time, with special focus on how the show dared to show a darker side of paradise   ( io9.gizmodo.com) divider line
    More: Cool, Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, Deep Space, Star Trek: The Next Generation, Star Trek, Star Trek: The Original Series, Ira Steven Behr  
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2018-03-04 03:39:35 PM  
Yeah, those Ewoks were pretty evil.
 
2018-03-04 03:47:38 PM  
But enough about Babylon Five...
 
2018-03-04 04:06:38 PM  
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"I've just made a deal that will keep the empire out of here forever."
--Shepherd Derrial Book
 
2018-03-04 04:11:27 PM  
Captian Picard was great in that episode about Spice mining.
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2018-03-04 04:56:41 PM  
Watching some of both recently, DS9 definitely aged better than TNG. And Picard is a pompous dick. And all the TNG movies suck, the Borg one slightly less so.
 
2018-03-04 05:33:10 PM  
He's working on a documentary that will look back on Deep Space Nine

Jeez, isn't that done yet?
 
2018-03-04 05:50:26 PM  
DS9 took some digs at fundamentalist evangelicals via Kai Winn, which, somehow, didn't get the show nuked from orbit by the fundamentalist evangelicals, probably because Kai Winn wasn't a fundamentalist evangelical *Christian* who was being made to look like an ass.
 
2018-03-04 06:08:20 PM  

ClavellBCMI: DS9 took some digs at fundamentalist evangelicals via Kai Winn, which, somehow, didn't get the show nuked from orbit by the fundamentalist evangelicals, probably because Kai Winn wasn't a fundamentalist evangelical *Christian* who was being made to look like an ass.


Yeah that would have gone over their heads.
 
2018-03-04 06:26:35 PM  
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2018-03-04 06:28:02 PM  

ClavellBCMI: DS9 took some digs at fundamentalist evangelicals via Kai Winn, which, somehow, didn't get the show nuked from orbit by the fundamentalist evangelicals, probably because Kai Winn wasn't a fundamentalist evangelical *Christian* who was being made to look like an ass.


Because the Bajorans were much more obviously Palestinians?
 
2018-03-04 06:29:13 PM  

BullBearMS: [img.fark.net image 320x240]


That's not true. TNG had shades of grey.

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2018-03-04 06:34:40 PM  
I also liked DS9 likely the best of all the post OG - this was really unpopular to say 10 years ago. What changed?
 
2018-03-04 06:36:45 PM  

NeoCortex42: BullBearMS: [img.fark.net image 320x240]

That's not true. TNG had shades of grey.

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Nobody likes to remember the Pulaski years. :oP
 
2018-03-04 06:37:02 PM  
We must get one of these "DS9 is the best Trek series because it's so anti-Trek" articles every few months.

I love the show too, but we've read this article before. It's not some stunning new insight.
 
2018-03-04 06:37:43 PM  
I never watched DS9 or Voyager.  Now BBC America is showing Voyager ad infinitum and I've seen EVERY episode several times now!!
It's not very good.  It's like Next Generation-lite without the likable characters.

I'm hoping they start showing DS9 soon.
 
2018-03-04 06:37:52 PM  

Benalto: I also liked DS9 likely the best of all the post OG - this was really unpopular to say 10 years ago. What changed?


The ability to binge view it helps it stand out a ton versus TNG and Voyager.  Also it's not a new show competing directly against an established TNG.  At this point, all of the Trek series are far enough in the past to be looked at on more equal footing than in the context of when they were airing.
 
2018-03-04 06:38:33 PM  
I watch TNG and DS9 as a pretty regular part of my life.  There are episodes of DS9 that I call "As the Space Station Turns" and I don't like the Vegas nightclub holodeck episodes.  The baseball episode makes me cringe.  But other than that, I think it holds up well for a 20 year old show that I've watched repeatedly.  Some solid writing and acting.
 
2018-03-04 06:40:08 PM  
I liked the first 3 or 4 seasons but after that, not so much.
 
2018-03-04 06:43:36 PM  

NeoCortex42: BullBearMS: [img.fark.net image 320x240]

That's not true. TNG had shades of grey.

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That was the clip show they did because of the writer's strike.
 
2018-03-04 06:44:18 PM  

Skyking Skyking Do Not Answer: I watch TNG and DS9 as a pretty regular part of my life.  There are episodes of DS9 that I call "As the Space Station Turns" and I don't like the Vegas nightclub holodeck episodes.  The baseball episode makes me cringe.  But other than that, I think it holds up well for a 20 year old show that I've watched repeatedly.  Some solid writing and acting.


The episode where the Vulcans kick the shiat out of them in baseball was pretty good.
 
2018-03-04 06:47:19 PM  

Benalto: I also liked DS9 likely the best of all the post OG - this was really unpopular to say 10 years ago. What changed?


No idea, DS9 was the first series I watched, loved it. At that point I had seen the movies from the original series but not TNG or TOS.
 
2018-03-04 06:48:31 PM  

Epicedion: Skyking Skyking Do Not Answer: I watch TNG and DS9 as a pretty regular part of my life.  There are episodes of DS9 that I call "As the Space Station Turns" and I don't like the Vegas nightclub holodeck episodes.  The baseball episode makes me cringe.  But other than that, I think it holds up well for a 20 year old show that I've watched repeatedly.  Some solid writing and acting.

The episode where the Vulcans kick the shiat out of them in baseball was pretty good.


I loved the baseball episode.
 
2018-03-04 06:50:47 PM  

Benalto: I also liked DS9 likely the best of all the post OG - this was really unpopular to say 10 years ago. What changed?


I say that Trek is at it's best when it's exploring an alien culture in multi-episode detail.

With TOS, we explored Vulcans.

With TNG, we explored Klingons and Data as an example of a cybernetic life form.

With DS9, it went wild. Bajorans, Cardassians, Ferengi, Trill, the Dominion races...
 
2018-03-04 06:52:26 PM  

mrshinespark: Epicedion: Skyking Skyking Do Not Answer: I watch TNG and DS9 as a pretty regular part of my life.  There are episodes of DS9 that I call "As the Space Station Turns" and I don't like the Vegas nightclub holodeck episodes.  The baseball episode makes me cringe.  But other than that, I think it holds up well for a 20 year old show that I've watched repeatedly.  Some solid writing and acting.

The episode where the Vulcans kick the shiat out of them in baseball was pretty good.

I loved the baseball episode.


That episode pushed the suspension of disbelief for the holosuite. I can buy running on the holosuite, maybe you're running on a treadmill or moveable floor but throwing a ball across a baseball field in a holosuite about the size of less than a gymnasium, I don't buy it.
 
2018-03-04 06:52:39 PM  

buntz: I never watched DS9 or Voyager.  Now BBC America is showing Voyager ad infinitum and I've seen EVERY episode several times now!!
It's not very good.  It's like Next Generation-lite without the likable characters.

I'm hoping they start showing DS9 soon.


Really? They had three ranked in the top ten fan favorites of all the series, with The Doctor, Seven of Nine, and Neelix.  I also think B'Elanna and Tuvoc were pretty likable too.
 
2018-03-04 06:53:55 PM  

BullBearMS: NeoCortex42: BullBearMS: [img.fark.net image 320x240]

That's not true. TNG had shades of grey.

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Nobody likes to remember the Pulaski years. :oP


Never understood the Pulaski hate. She was more competent and in no way the dingbat Beverly was.
 
2018-03-04 06:55:47 PM  
I really liked that DS9 episode where the guy's head comes off, grows legs and walks away.
 
2018-03-04 06:56:22 PM  

mrshinespark: Epicedion: Skyking Skyking Do Not Answer: I watch TNG and DS9 as a pretty regular part of my life.  There are episodes of DS9 that I call "As the Space Station Turns" and I don't like the Vegas nightclub holodeck episodes.  The baseball episode makes me cringe.  But other than that, I think it holds up well for a 20 year old show that I've watched repeatedly.  Some solid writing and acting.

The episode where the Vulcans kick the shiat out of them in baseball was pretty good.

I loved the baseball episode.


A Vulcan getting shown up for holding an illogical and emotional grudge against a human was an interesting addition to Vulcan cannon.
 
2018-03-04 06:56:44 PM  

buntz: I never watched DS9 or Voyager.  Now BBC America is showing Voyager ad infinitum and I've seen EVERY episode several times now!!
It's not very good.  It's like Next Generation-lite without the likable characters.

I'm hoping they start showing DS9 soon.


Yeah I knew Voyages wasn't gonna work once I got to see these clowns:
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2018-03-04 06:56:53 PM  

Bslim: BullBearMS: NeoCortex42: BullBearMS: [img.fark.net image 320x240]

That's not true. TNG had shades of grey.

[i1.wp.com image 490x379]

Nobody likes to remember the Pulaski years. :oP

Never understood the Pulaski hate. She was more competent and in no way the dingbat Beverly was.


"If there's nothing wrong with me, maybe there's something wrong with the universe!" she says to herself.
 
2018-03-04 06:57:20 PM  
I watched most of the TNG episodes during my teens, and was always infatuated with Deanna Troi's boobs.

Well, yesterday, I'm watching Death Wish 1, 2, and 3 and lo and behold, she's in one of them.

To make a short story boring, you see her boobs in one of them (I forget which one now as they all started to run together at that point).

/If my 14 year old self had known that, I wouldn't have spent so much money on her action figures.
 
2018-03-04 06:58:06 PM  
Huh. Maybe I should have checked that one out.

One of my main complaints about sci fi growing up, which I know is no longer valid, is the 'utopian' view of humanity that Star Trek espoused.

Shows like The Expanse are much more realistic about humanity.
 
2018-03-04 06:58:39 PM  

Bslim: buntz: I never watched DS9 or Voyager.  Now BBC America is showing Voyager ad infinitum and I've seen EVERY episode several times now!!
It's not very good.  It's like Next Generation-lite without the likable characters.

I'm hoping they start showing DS9 soon.

Yeah I knew Voyages wasn't gonna work once I got to see these clowns:
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I find watching it with the seemingly fan-suggestion that Janeway was bipolar more interesting.  She was all over the map when it came to her ideals.
 
2018-03-04 06:59:14 PM  

Bslim: buntz: I never watched DS9 or Voyager.  Now BBC America is showing Voyager ad infinitum and I've seen EVERY episode several times now!!
It's not very good.  It's like Next Generation-lite without the likable characters.

I'm hoping they start showing DS9 soon.

Yeah I knew Voyages wasn't gonna work once I got to see these clowns:
[vignette.wikia.nocookie.net image 200x160]


The Kazon didn't work for me either.
 
2018-03-04 06:59:29 PM  

Bslim: buntz: I never watched DS9 or Voyager.  Now BBC America is showing Voyager ad infinitum and I've seen EVERY episode several times now!!
It's not very good.  It's like Next Generation-lite without the likable characters.

I'm hoping they start showing DS9 soon.

Yeah I knew Voyages wasn't gonna work once I got to see these clowns:
[vignette.wikia.nocookie.net image 200x160]


Was that the episode where the Federation offer the Kazon's "No More Tangles" to help them with their messy comb throughs?
 
2018-03-04 06:59:45 PM  
Eh. Still waiting for Star Trek to get back to adventure. You know, new worlds and new civilizations? And not ones that don't make any logical sense outside the needs of that weeks script, or are monster/villain of the week.
 
2018-03-04 07:00:22 PM  
This article was really interesting ...when I read it fifteen years ago.

If you're going to write something about a show that went off the air nearly 20 years ago, please try to say something new.
 
2018-03-04 07:03:04 PM  

AcademGreen: Bslim: buntz: I never watched DS9 or Voyager.  Now BBC America is showing Voyager ad infinitum and I've seen EVERY episode several times now!!
It's not very good.  It's like Next Generation-lite without the likable characters.

I'm hoping they start showing DS9 soon.

Yeah I knew Voyages wasn't gonna work once I got to see these clowns:
[vignette.wikia.nocookie.net image 200x160]

I find watching it with the seemingly fan-suggestion that Janeway was bipolar more interesting.  She was all over the map when it came to her ideals.


Oh yeah she was terrible captain (not Mulgrew's fault she's very competent actor and funny lady). The farking writers had her contradicting personal ideals and Federation policy from episode to episode.
 
2018-03-04 07:03:51 PM  

Duke of Madness Motors: Eh. Still waiting for Star Trek to get back to adventure. You know, new worlds and new civilizations? And not ones that don't make any logical sense outside the needs of that weeks script, or are monster/villain of the week.


You don't like ST: Discovery WAR?
 
2018-03-04 07:07:56 PM  

Mugato: mrshinespark: Epicedion: Skyking Skyking Do Not Answer: I watch TNG and DS9 as a pretty regular part of my life.  There are episodes of DS9 that I call "As the Space Station Turns" and I don't like the Vegas nightclub holodeck episodes.  The baseball episode makes me cringe.  But other than that, I think it holds up well for a 20 year old show that I've watched repeatedly.  Some solid writing and acting.

The episode where the Vulcans kick the shiat out of them in baseball was pretty good.

I loved the baseball episode.

That episode pushed the suspension of disbelief for the holosuite. I can buy running on the holosuite, maybe you're running on a treadmill or moveable floor but throwing a ball across a baseball field in a holosuite about the size of less than a gymnasium, I don't buy it.


1. The holosuites were always pure fantasy and the shows never stuck to their own rules (that WW2 Voyager episode really jumped the shark on the holosuites).
2. I always thought the stupid part about the holosuites were the number of times that a program was running and it could not be shut off. There's really no way to just yank the power cord?
3. I just assumed that the holosuites were the size of a gymnasium, but for budget reason they always looked like medium-sized rooms.
 
2018-03-04 07:09:22 PM  

Bslim: BullBearMS: NeoCortex42: BullBearMS: [img.fark.net image 320x240]

That's not true. TNG had shades of grey.

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Nobody likes to remember the Pulaski years. :oP

Never understood the Pulaski hate. She was more competent and in no way the dingbat Beverly was.


Think how much worse the infamous exercise scene would have been with Pulaski instead of Crusher.
 
2018-03-04 07:09:38 PM  
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2018-03-04 07:13:36 PM  

NeoCortex42: BullBearMS: [img.fark.net image 320x240]

That's not true. TNG had shades of grey.

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2018-03-04 07:15:02 PM  

AcademGreen: Duke of Madness Motors: Eh. Still waiting for Star Trek to get back to adventure. You know, new worlds and new civilizations? And not ones that don't make any logical sense outside the needs of that weeks script, or are monster/villain of the week.

You don't like ST: Discovery WAR?


Saw the first two episodes, wasn't impressed, haven't been interested enough to stream any others. I'm certainly not signing up for CBS streaming to watch it.
 
2018-03-04 07:16:28 PM  

Mugato: Watching some of both recently, DS9 definitely aged better than TNG. And Picard is a pompous dick. And all the TNG movies suck, the Borg one slightly less so.


Oh come on - First Contact was a good Trek movie. Some great set pieces like the fight a on deflector array, and Patrick Stewart was finally given an opportunity to do some acting.

I know some people get bent out of shape about the time travel aspect, but it was just a device so they could do a Man Who Shot Liberty Valance sub-plot. It wasn't like the whole movie was about time travel.
 
2018-03-04 07:16:37 PM  
Obligatory Opinion :  Elim Garak is the greatest non-main cast recurring character in all of Star Trek history.
 
2018-03-04 07:18:42 PM  

thornhill: Mugato: mrshinespark: Epicedion: Skyking Skyking Do Not Answer: I watch TNG and DS9 as a pretty regular part of my life.  There are episodes of DS9 that I call "As the Space Station Turns" and I don't like the Vegas nightclub holodeck episodes.  The baseball episode makes me cringe.  But other than that, I think it holds up well for a 20 year old show that I've watched repeatedly.  Some solid writing and acting.

The episode where the Vulcans kick the shiat out of them in baseball was pretty good.

I loved the baseball episode.

That episode pushed the suspension of disbelief for the holosuite. I can buy running on the holosuite, maybe you're running on a treadmill or moveable floor but throwing a ball across a baseball field in a holosuite about the size of less than a gymnasium, I don't buy it.

1. The holosuites were always pure fantasy and the shows never stuck to their own rules (that WW2 Voyager episode really jumped the shark on the holosuites).
2. I always thought the stupid part about the holosuites were the number of times that a program was running and it could not be shut off. There's really no way to just yank the power cord?
3. I just assumed that the holosuites were the size of a gymnasium, but for budget reason they always looked like medium-sized rooms.


I always figured that the holodeck just showed each individual the scene as they'd see it -- it can already duplicate people indistinguishably, so why not just show you someone who's supposedly far away as smaller and then modify the sound locally for you. That way someone could be three feet away and seem a hundred yards out, and since the ground is holographic it becomes it's own local treadmill for everyone. I mean, you'd have some limitations like not being able to have people close enough to touch each other for real, and the computational ability not to mention energy expenditure would be so immense it would make more sense to just do VR tricks with the brain, but if you buy the initial fiction of the holographic tech there's really a way to explain practically anything.
 
2018-03-04 07:19:30 PM  

Bslim: BullBearMS: NeoCortex42: BullBearMS: [img.fark.net image 320x240]

That's not true. TNG had shades of grey.

[i1.wp.com image 490x379]

Nobody likes to remember the Pulaski years. :oP

Never understood the Pulaski hate. She was more competent and in no way the dingbat Beverly was.


When I was a kid, I just picked up on how she wasn't very nice to Data. I never got over it with her character.

Didn't mind her on TOS, though
 
2018-03-04 07:22:11 PM  

ReapTheChaos: Really? They had three ranked in the top ten fan favorites of all the series, with The Doctor, Seven of Nine, and Neelix.  I also think B'Elanna and Tuvoc were pretty likable too.


See, I disagree.  Seven and the Doctor were basically Voyager's way of telling more "Data" stories.
Yes, Seven was nice to look at, but as a "likable" character?

The Doctor WAS likable, at first.  But, and maybe this is BBC America's fault, it seems almost EVERY episode was about him!

And Neelix was just awful.

I DID like that Janeway would do shiat Picard never would.  But I didn't like HER as a character.
 
2018-03-04 07:22:16 PM  

BullBearMS: NeoCortex42: BullBearMS: [img.fark.net image 320x240]

That's not true. TNG had shades of grey.

[i1.wp.com image 490x379]

Nobody likes to remember the Pulaski years. :oP


Year.  But, no.  She was terrible.
 
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