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(Yahoo)   The aluminum tariff could make your beer more expensive, send the Business tab into a Politics tab-like meltdown   ( finance.yahoo.com) divider line
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2018-03-02 03:09:22 PM  
And this matters how? The Rich do not partak of beer.
 
2018-03-02 03:27:36 PM  

edmo: And this matters how? The Rich do not partak of beer.


Beer matters across all socio-economic lines.
 
2018-03-02 03:29:25 PM  
Kegs can be re-used.
 
2018-03-02 03:30:46 PM  
I doubt the increase in the input cost of the can towards the final cost would amount to that much of an increase to the final product.  10% increase on something that costs the bottlers something like $.10 a unit.
 
2018-03-02 03:34:44 PM  
Anyone remember the "aluminum swindle" being covered on the Rachel Maddow show a while back, and cannot recall the details of it at this time.

I just wonder if there is any connection with that and what Trump is doing now.
 
2018-03-02 03:35:09 PM  

Saiga410: I doubt the increase in the input cost of the can towards the final cost would amount to that much of an increase to the final product.  10% increase on something that costs the bottlers something like $.10 a unit.


You could say that about the cost of raising the minimum wage, but that doesn't stop it from becoming a mighty cash grab if people think they can have an excuse to make a buck.
 
2018-03-02 04:15:04 PM  
Remind the teetotalers that their Coke and Diet Coke prices will go up too.  Let 'em know that stigginit to beer drinkers comes back to them.
 
2018-03-02 04:20:51 PM  
Who cares? We're happy

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2018-03-02 04:22:03 PM  
I would have thought steel costs were more impt, given the number of people who will be affected by a downturn in demand for cars and trucks
 
2018-03-02 04:22:06 PM  

Saiga410: I doubt the increase in the input cost of the can towards the final cost would amount to that much of an increase to the final product.  10% increase on something that costs the bottlers something like $.10 a unit.


There's not $.10 of aluminum in a beer can. Most of the cost is in making the can itself so maybe a penny or so in actual "Raw" aluminum. I only use the term raw in parentheses because we recycle a lot of it. Recycled aluminum is worth roughly $.25 to $.35 for one pound and that's roughly 32 cans or so. Importing aluminum might round it up to a full two cents per can if they only use imported aluminum. If someone is raising their beer prices 10% because of the tariff they are gouging their customers.
 
2018-03-02 04:30:42 PM  

Radioactive Ass: Saiga410: I doubt the increase in the input cost of the can towards the final cost would amount to that much of an increase to the final product.  10% increase on something that costs the bottlers something like $.10 a unit.

There's not $.10 of aluminum in a beer can. Most of the cost is in making the can itself so maybe a penny or so in actual "Raw" aluminum. I only use the term raw in parentheses because we recycle a lot of it. Recycled aluminum is worth roughly $.25 to $.35 for one pound and that's roughly 32 cans or so. Importing aluminum might round it up to a full two cents per can if they only use imported aluminum. If someone is raising their beer prices 10% because of the tariff they are gouging their customers.


Uh, have you not been paying attention to how corporate capitalism in America works? The excuse for raising prices doesn't matter, all that matters is some justification can be thrown to the plebes.
 
2018-03-02 04:33:57 PM  

Radioactive Ass: If someone is raising their beer prices 10% because of the tariff they are gouging their customers Capitalists.


FIFY
 
2018-03-02 05:01:16 PM  
Buy it in bottles.
Of course, Canada's safe - they'll start selling it in bags.
 
2018-03-02 05:01:42 PM  
What a lot of folks forget or don't seem to realize is that aluminum is one of the most recycled metals as it is far cheaper to melt down and reuse existing aluminum  then to process the ore  into useable metal.   The tariff should not have much of an effect on aluminum prices so long as the source is fully recycled material.
 
2018-03-02 05:05:43 PM  

jgbrowning: Radioactive Ass: If someone is raising their beer prices 10% because of the tariff they are gouging their customers Capitalists.

FIFY


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2018-03-02 05:15:07 PM  

Radioactive Ass: Saiga410: I doubt the increase in the input cost of the can towards the final cost would amount to that much of an increase to the final product.  10% increase on something that costs the bottlers something like $.10 a unit.

There's not $.10 of aluminum in a beer can. Most of the cost is in making the can itself so maybe a penny or so in actual "Raw" aluminum. I only use the term raw in parentheses because we recycle a lot of it. Recycled aluminum is worth roughly $.25 to $.35 for one pound and that's roughly 32 cans or so. Importing aluminum might round it up to a full two cents per can if they only use imported aluminum. If someone is raising their beer prices 10% because of the tariff they are gouging their customers.


Last fall I took a few bags of crushed cans to a local scrap yard, and it was about $.45 per pound. It'll be interesting to see if scrap prices jump.
 
2018-03-02 05:39:44 PM  

Fubegra: Radioactive Ass: Saiga410: I doubt the increase in the input cost of the can towards the final cost would amount to that much of an increase to the final product.  10% increase on something that costs the bottlers something like $.10 a unit.

There's not $.10 of aluminum in a beer can. Most of the cost is in making the can itself so maybe a penny or so in actual "Raw" aluminum. I only use the term raw in parentheses because we recycle a lot of it. Recycled aluminum is worth roughly $.25 to $.35 for one pound and that's roughly 32 cans or so. Importing aluminum might round it up to a full two cents per can if they only use imported aluminum. If someone is raising their beer prices 10% because of the tariff they are gouging their customers.

Last fall I took a few bags of crushed cans to a local scrap yard, and it was about $.45 per pound. It'll be interesting to see if scrap prices jump.


I was going by the national average. I toss my own cans into the recycle bin and let them deal with it. Bags of used cans smell bad after a couple of weeks and attract ants. I don't need that hassle for a few extra bucks.
 
2018-03-02 05:54:46 PM  

Radioactive Ass: I toss my own cans into the recycle bin and let them deal with it. Bags of used cans smell bad after a couple of weeks and attract ants. I don't need that hassle for a few extra bucks.


If only there were some sort of substance, and an associated delivery system, that could be used to rinse out those cans so they don't attract insects.

If your recyclables smell, you're doing it wrong.
 
2018-03-02 07:12:56 PM  
Good beer doesn't come in cans
 
2018-03-02 07:14:45 PM  

grimlock1972: What a lot of folks forget or don't seem to realize is that aluminum is one of the most recycled metals as it is far cheaper to melt down and reuse existing aluminum  then to process the ore  into useable metal.   The tariff should not have much of an effect on aluminum prices so long as the source is fully recycled material.


About the same percentage of people that still support Trump are the type that throw away recyclables to stick it to the libs.
 
2018-03-02 07:42:17 PM  
And your refrigerator and your car and your food and...well let's face it you're not going to be able to afford beer by the time Trump and Mnuchin are done.
 
2018-03-02 08:00:51 PM  
Brew your own beer.  Also, who buys beer in cans?  the poors?
 
2018-03-02 08:02:48 PM  
First the made beer in cans more expensive, and I did nothing for I only drink beer from glass.
 
2018-03-02 08:14:52 PM  

ImpendingCynic: Radioactive Ass: I toss my own cans into the recycle bin and let them deal with it. Bags of used cans smell bad after a couple of weeks and attract ants. I don't need that hassle for a few extra bucks.

If only there were some sort of substance, and an associated delivery system, that could be used to rinse out those cans so they don't attract insects.

If your recyclables smell, you're doing it wrong.


And that's my point. I do rinse out my recyclables but unless you want me to stick them into a bucket (or whatever) of soap and water and scrub them they will eventually attract insects. Hence my comment about the hassle that I try to avoid. I also toss out my garbage once per week. It's not much, maybe a full grocery shopping bag in most cases but I'm not going to stockpile it. That's why I pay a garbage bill. To keep the smell and bugs away.
 
2018-03-02 08:35:22 PM  

AmbassadorBooze: Brew your own beer.  Also, who buys beer in cans?  the poors?


Lots of craft brewers are using cans these days.
 
2018-03-02 09:04:26 PM  

arrogantbastich: First the made beer in cans more expensive, and I did nothing for I only drink beer from glass.


Some people like that aluminum flavor in their beer for some reason.
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I though I was the only one that didn't...
 
2018-03-02 09:15:21 PM  
I'm more worried about what it will do to the price of the hats I wear to keep God out of my brainwaves.
 
2018-03-02 09:23:15 PM  

Voiceofreason01: And your refrigerator and your car and your food and...well let's face it you're not going to be able to afford beer by the time Trump and Mnuchin are done.


I'm more worried about what might happen if our supply of zinc oxide gets cut off.

Science Lesson #5 Zinc Oxide and You
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2018-03-02 10:34:46 PM  

Free Radical: AmbassadorBooze: Brew your own beer.  Also, who buys beer in cans?  the poors?

Lots of craft brewers are using cans these days.


To cater to hipsters  who only want to drink pbr.
 
2018-03-02 11:19:33 PM  
I thought Alcoa had been in trouble for basically forming a global monopoly, finding places where they could access cheap power to refine the oxide mined in various countries without cheap power. That's why they built a hydroelectric dam in Iceland.
 
2018-03-02 11:20:27 PM  

Fubegra: Radioactive Ass: Saiga410: I doubt the increase in the input cost of the can towards the final cost would amount to that much of an increase to the final product.  10% increase on something that costs the bottlers something like $.10 a unit.

There's not $.10 of aluminum in a beer can. Most of the cost is in making the can itself so maybe a penny or so in actual "Raw" aluminum. I only use the term raw in parentheses because we recycle a lot of it. Recycled aluminum is worth roughly $.25 to $.35 for one pound and that's roughly 32 cans or so. Importing aluminum might round it up to a full two cents per can if they only use imported aluminum. If someone is raising their beer prices 10% because of the tariff they are gouging their customers.

Last fall I took a few bags of crushed cans to a local scrap yard, and it was about $.45 per pound. It'll be interesting to see if scrap prices jump.


Nothing about that sounds interesting.  😉
 
2018-03-02 11:44:38 PM  

AquaTatanka: Good beer doesn't come in cans


 You sweet summer child. Apparently you don't live in a real drinking town.
 
2018-03-03 08:22:39 AM  

grimlock1972: What a lot of folks forget or don't seem to realize is that aluminum is one of the most recycled metals as it is far cheaper to melt down and reuse existing aluminum  then to process the ore  into useable metal.   The tariff should not have much of an effect on aluminum prices so long as the source is fully recycled material.


Consumer: hey, why is my beer .50 a can more expensive?
Producer: aluminum tariff.
Consumer: don't you use recycled aluminum?
Producer: aluminum tariff
Consumer: maybe you should use recycled aluminum.
Producer: aluminum tariff
Consumer: don't you use like .01cents a can worth of aluminum? Why is it .50 a can more?
Producer: aluminum tariff
Consumer: but, still, that's like .49 more.
Producer: listen, dipshiat, this yacht full of whores isn't paying for itself, so repeat after me: aluminum tariff.
Consumer: aluminum tariff
Producer: good boy, now run along.
 
2018-03-03 08:40:05 AM  

StatelyGreekAutomaton: Uh, have you not been paying attention to how corporate capitalism in America works? The excuse for raising prices doesn't matter, all that matters is some justification can be thrown to the plebes.


So in your theory, is "corporate America" underpricing all their goods currently, or are they planning to overprice them and reduce profits?
 
2018-03-03 12:37:41 PM  

NOLAhd: grimlock1972: What a lot of folks forget or don't seem to realize is that aluminum is one of the most recycled metals as it is far cheaper to melt down and reuse existing aluminum  then to process the ore  into useable metal.   The tariff should not have much of an effect on aluminum prices so long as the source is fully recycled material.

Consumer: hey, why is my beer .50 a can more expensive?
Producer: aluminum tariff.
Consumer: don't you use recycled aluminum?
Producer: aluminum tariff
Consumer: maybe you should use recycled aluminum.
Producer: aluminum tariff
Consumer: don't you use like .01cents a can worth of aluminum? Why is it .50 a can more?
Producer: aluminum tariff
Consumer: but, still, that's like .49 more.
Producer: listen, dipshiat, this yacht full of whores isn't paying for itself, so repeat after me: aluminum tariff.
Consumer: aluminum tariff
Producer: good boy, now run along.


Note i sald should not would . lol
 
2018-03-03 12:55:17 PM  

NOLAhd: grimlock1972: What a lot of folks forget or don't seem to realize is that aluminum is one of the most recycled metals as it is far cheaper to melt down and reuse existing aluminum  then to process the ore  into useable metal.   The tariff should not have much of an effect on aluminum prices so long as the source is fully recycled material.

Consumer: hey, why is my beer .50 a can more expensive?
Producer: aluminum tariff.
Consumer: don't you use recycled aluminum?
Producer: aluminum tariff
Consumer: maybe you should use recycled aluminum.
Producer: aluminum tariff
Consumer: don't you use like .01cents a can worth of aluminum? Why is it .50 a can more?
Producer: aluminum tariff
Consumer: but, still, that's like .49 more.
Producer: listen, dipshiat, this yacht full of whores isn't paying for itself, so repeat after me: aluminum tariff.
Consumer: aluminum tariff
Producer: good boy, now run along.


1) your post is hilarious.

2) you're now Farkied as a fellow New Orleanian! Welcome to the list! Seems to be many of us here, likely to due to BAC
 
2018-03-03 12:58:40 PM  

NOLAhd: grimlock1972: What a lot of folks forget or don't seem to realize is that aluminum is one of the most recycled metals as it is far cheaper to melt down and reuse existing aluminum  then to process the ore  into useable metal.   The tariff should not have much of an effect on aluminum prices so long as the source is fully recycled material.

Consumer: hey, why is my beer .50 a can more expensive?
Producer: aluminum tariff.
Consumer: don't you use recycled aluminum?
Producer: aluminum tariff
Consumer: maybe you should use recycled aluminum.
Producer: aluminum tariff
Consumer: don't you use like .01cents a can worth of aluminum? Why is it .50 a can more?
Producer: aluminum tariff
Consumer: but, still, that's like .49 more.
Producer: listen, dipshiat, this yacht full of whores isn't paying for itself, so repeat after me: aluminum tariff.
Consumer: aluminum tariff
Producer: good boy, now run along.


 Oh, one more thing. Before the last major cigarette tax was implemented, but had been announced, stores were jacking up prices. Since I actually read the news I tried to discuss this with a shop owner but he swore up and down that the tax was currently being levied. I just gave up and paid the asking price because look, if I don't get my Marlboros in the morning innocent people are gonna die.
 
2018-03-03 02:23:35 PM  

dickfreckle: NOLAhd: grimlock1972: What a lot of folks forget or don't seem to realize is that aluminum is one of the most recycled metals as it is far cheaper to melt down and reuse existing aluminum  then to process the ore  into useable metal.   The tariff should not have much of an effect on aluminum prices so long as the source is fully recycled material.

Consumer: hey, why is my beer .50 a can more expensive?
Producer: aluminum tariff.
Consumer: don't you use recycled aluminum?
Producer: aluminum tariff
Consumer: maybe you should use recycled aluminum.
Producer: aluminum tariff
Consumer: don't you use like .01cents a can worth of aluminum? Why is it .50 a can more?
Producer: aluminum tariff
Consumer: but, still, that's like .49 more.
Producer: listen, dipshiat, this yacht full of whores isn't paying for itself, so repeat after me: aluminum tariff.
Consumer: aluminum tariff
Producer: good boy, now run along.

1) your post is hilarious.

2) you're now Farkied as a fellow New Orleanian! Welcome to the list! Seems to be many of us here, likely to due to BAC


BAC= Blood Alcohol Content?
 
2018-03-03 04:56:54 PM  

AmbassadorBooze: Brew your own beer.  Also, who buys beer in cans?  the poors?


Canning technology has come a long ways. Many microbreweries, who would have sneered at the idea 6-8 years ago, now can their product.

Has better seals, hence longer shelf life because of less oxygen getting into the container, no light gets in, and they've solved the problem of leeching so it doesn't get that metallic taste anymore. Also, it expands opportunities for the seller since they can sell to people who intend to drink at a place wher glass isn't allowed, like a poolside or beach.

Also, changes in canning machinery have made it economically feasible to can small batches, whereas in decades past it was infeasible if you were doing a run that wasn't literally a million or more cans.
 
2018-03-03 07:12:35 PM  

NOLAhd: grimlock1972: What a lot of folks forget or don't seem to realize is that aluminum is one of the most recycled metals as it is far cheaper to melt down and reuse existing aluminum  then to process the ore  into useable metal.   The tariff should not have much of an effect on aluminum prices so long as the source is fully recycled material.

Consumer: hey, why is my beer .50 a can more expensive?
Producer: aluminum tariff.
Consumer: don't you use recycled aluminum?
Producer: aluminum tariff
Consumer: maybe you should use recycled aluminum.
Producer: aluminum tariff
Consumer: don't you use like .01cents a can worth of aluminum? Why is it .50 a can more?
Producer: aluminum tariff
Consumer: but, still, that's like .49 more.
Producer: listen, dipshiat, this yacht full of whores isn't paying for itself, so repeat after me: aluminum tariff.
Consumer: aluminum tariff
Producer: good boy, now run along.


A tarrif is going to increase the price of domestically produced and recycled aluminum too.
 
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