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2018-03-02 08:40:50 AM  
The middle east wends itself back and forth between a desert and a green land every 20000 years or so.

This is why there is an assload of oil in the region.
 
2018-03-02 12:57:13 PM  
grain storage pyramids?
 
2018-03-02 01:01:35 PM  

KarmicDisaster: grain storage pyramids?


Smaller carbon footprint.
 
2018-03-02 02:01:15 PM  

KarmicDisaster: grain storage pyramids?


Well, yeah.  Never played Civ1?  That was the effect of the pyramid wonder.  Granary in every town.
 
2018-03-02 02:13:12 PM  
There's evidence of a missing tin shipment that would have led to the disappearance of good material for farm tools for a generation or two.
 
2018-03-02 02:14:51 PM  
I seem to remember a fellow in a loud jacket who had a dream about that very thing.
 
2018-03-02 02:36:34 PM  

KarmicDisaster: grain storage pyramids?


(._. )

...every time I see this....
 
2018-03-02 06:34:18 PM  

Luneward: KarmicDisaster: grain storage pyramids?

Well, yeah.  Never played Civ1?  That was the effect of the pyramid wonder.  Granary in every town.


Also there was Republican congressman who thought the pyramids were built to store grain.
 
2018-03-02 07:41:16 PM  
This is a Roman conspiracy!

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2018-03-02 08:58:35 PM  

EL EM: I seem to remember a fellow in a loud jacket who had a dream about that very thing.


This was, in fact, the period in which the story of Exodus may be set.

In the story of Joseph's Dreams, his brothers sell him into slavery and he is taken to Egypt where he becomes a trusted advisor of the Pharoah (Pharoahs, like most despots, preferred hiring foreigners to run things because they could be trusted not to sympathize with the natives so much--the Romans applied the same principle to the recruitment of their armies. They sent armies from one region to another to ensure the troops never joined the natives in revolt. Many of the troops in Britannia were from Eastern Europe, the German territories or North Africa. Those in Israel were often from Gaul or Britain.) Other odd choices of government officials include Dwarves and Eunuchs, both literal and figurative.

The "Hebrews" a term applied to pastoral and rural clans of a more nomadic lifestyle than the people of the cities, may well have gone to Egypt to escape famines and droughts.

At about the time of Tutankhamen's Father, there was much disruption in the religious life of Egypt due to an attempt to weaken the priests and establish a monotheistic religion. This was followed by incursions.

Although it is unlikely that the Exodus was so large as is thought (600,000 men capable of fighting, plus women, children, etc.) there may well have been one. The Egyptians did not record faithfully their failures and defeats. On the other hand, one theory is that the word used for thousands actually meant soldiers, which means a more manageable crowd of 600 soldiers plus chattels, among which the women and children would be counted.

There were a lot of climate disruptions around this time, including a major volcanic eruption on Santorini which is now well known. The Jews later claimed a relationship to the Spartans of Greece. This may be the usual bumf from a people prone to trying to go native among foreigners, but it may have a wee kernal of truth in that there may be some movements of "Sea Peoples" or refugees and settlers and such between Greece and the Holy Land, so-called. It is not very strongly proven but it is not impossible--such things happen all the time, even today. We don't have a lot to go on execept genetic tests and the bodies to be tested are not numerous enough to capture a small or moderate movement of people due to societal collapses and emergencies.

Joseph's famous Dream of seven fat and seven thin cattle is very suggestive of Keynesian economics at work in a highly sophisticated and bureaucratic authoritarian state not completely unlike many such Egyptian governments since.

I always say that God is a Classical Keynesian--he makes the mighty low and raises up the humble, in good times he stores up grain and in bad times he releases it to the populace to preserve the people from exploitation. This takes a lot of power and good record keeping. Even a certain bit of cynical philanthropy and ruthless power. So it fits very nicely into Biblical and Egyptian history and myth.

According to the Bible, Pharoah became very rich doing good to his people and the neighbours. Not only did "guest workers" built his temples of brick and his stone monuments, but he came into possession of one third of the land in Egypt--about the same as the US Federal Government still owns in most of the Western USA.

In reality, Pharoah was super-rich by the standards of the day, but then the priesthood was no push-over, as Akhenaton learned to his great loss and Tutankhamen may have learned the same lesson because there is some suspicion of royal murder if the young Pharoah was not killed by a serious accident while hunting or practicing for war.

I wouldn't be surprised if there is some apocryphal truth in the Bible and in such theories, but they are often over-stated and lean very heavy towards priestly druthers in terms of historical events and how they are portrayed.

Can't trust the priesthood. They are always rich and sharpening their knives for kings and aristocrats who do not cave to their God's will, which is to say the interests of the bureaucratic and often militarized clergy.

Even the US has a few lessons to learn from Egypt.
 
2018-03-02 11:24:42 PM  

wildcardjack: There's evidence of a missing tin shipment that would have led to the disappearance of good material for farm tools for a generation or two.


Now that sounds like a topic for a fascinating book. Have any links handy?
 
2018-03-03 12:08:35 AM  

chrylis: wildcardjack: There's evidence of a missing tin shipment that would have led to the disappearance of good material for farm tools for a generation or two.

Now that sounds like a topic for a fascinating book. Have any links handy?


Ehh, just Eric Cline's SALT talk. But in review, (listened to it today) there were bigger problems.

Anyhow, look for the talk at Seminars About Long Term Thinking.
 
2018-03-03 12:59:59 AM  
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2018-03-03 10:57:14 AM  
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This book covers all of that

1177 BC: The Year Civilization Collapsed (Eric Cline, PhD)
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2018-03-03 03:57:51 PM  
"Second measure uncovered by archaeologists appears to have been the breeding of hardier cows"
That explains Subby's mom
 
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