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(Boing Boing)   Why vinyl records are better than mp3s. Missing: You can't throw mp3s at an approaching zombie in your back yard   ( boingboing.net) divider line
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2018-03-01 04:31:07 PM  
Why vinyl LPs are better...better...better
 
2018-03-01 05:00:05 PM  
MP3s are still a thing? I thought there go-to lossy algo nowadays was AAC?
 
2018-03-01 05:26:25 PM  
Walt Whitman America (1819-1892) Wax Recording
Youtube yBX2L_Re5Cc
 
2018-03-01 05:28:37 PM  
I dunno, my Zune packs quite a whallop.
 
2018-03-01 05:43:17 PM  

cefm: I dunno, my Zune packs quite a whallop.


Can you destroy hand with it?
Basement Jaxx - Rendez Vu ( Official Video ) Remedy
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2018-03-01 05:45:35 PM  
I was about to ask, "Why do millennials hate everything their parents ever did except Vinyl" when it occurred to me, vinyl would be their GRANDparents.

Damn I feel old now.
 
2018-03-01 05:47:26 PM  

Slow To Return: I was about to ask, "Why do millennials hate everything their parents ever did except Vinyl" when it occurred to me, vinyl would be their GRANDparents.

Damn I feel old now.


Vinyl was still around in the 70s, which would probably be millenials' parents.
 
2018-03-01 05:49:19 PM  
Get back to me after you've asked someone who has recently moved or is in the process of moving which is better.
 
2018-03-01 05:51:19 PM  

NeoCortex42: Slow To Return: I was about to ask, "Why do millennials hate everything their parents ever did except Vinyl" when it occurred to me, vinyl would be their GRANDparents.

Damn I feel old now.

Vinyl was still around in the 70s, which would probably be millenials' parents.


I had a 45 of Jefferson Starship's "We Built This City" that I used to play on repeat on my Fisher Price record player when I was a toddler in the 80's.  Say what you will, but it was my mom's fault, she's the one who bought the record for me.
 
2018-03-01 05:52:43 PM  
Batman soundtrack?
 
2018-03-01 05:53:58 PM  

NeoCortex42: Slow To Return: I was about to ask, "Why do millennials hate everything their parents ever did except Vinyl" when it occurred to me, vinyl would be their GRANDparents.

Damn I feel old now.

Vinyl was still around in the 70s, which would probably be millenials' parents.


Vinyl was still around in the 80s. We were slow to adopt CDs and kept buying records.

But, for superiority, the vinyl recordings of Chris Isaak sound far superior to his CDs but largely because of the damn compression used on early CDs.
 
2018-03-01 05:56:29 PM  

yakmans_dad: NeoCortex42: Slow To Return: I was about to ask, "Why do millennials hate everything their parents ever did except Vinyl" when it occurred to me, vinyl would be their GRANDparents.

Damn I feel old now.

Vinyl was still around in the 70s, which would probably be millenials' parents.

Vinyl was still around in the 80s. We were slow to adopt CDs and kept buying records.

But, for superiority, the vinyl recordings of Chris Isaak sound far superior to his CDs but largely because of the damn compression used on early CDs.


Right. Even though 8-tracks, cassettes, and then CDs were around for convenience, it wasn't until CDs were around for a while before vinyl really had any competition in quality. Ealy CDs were often horribly mastered and overcompressed.
 
2018-03-01 05:57:19 PM  
I grew up with vinyl.  Give me digital copies any day.  I don't miss the skipping or trying to lift the arm without scratching the vinyl.  And god forbid you bump the record player.  It was fine for the time, but I don't miss them in the least.

This whole vinyl infatuation is a hipster invention, with a few valid exceptions.
 
2018-03-01 06:01:19 PM  
I own noine pieces of vinyl
 
2018-03-01 06:04:32 PM  
Man lots of people have been watching Shaun of the Dead recently.
 
2018-03-01 06:05:49 PM  
The video was actually pretty cool. Discussing multiple grooves and weird stuff that can be done with vinyl.
 
2018-03-01 06:06:23 PM  

Tell Me How My Blog Tastes: Man lots of people have been watching Shaun of the Dead recently.


How's that for a slice of fried gold!
 
2018-03-01 06:12:19 PM  

Tea_tempest_Cup: The video was actually pretty cool. Discussing multiple grooves and weird stuff that can be done with vinyl.


Jack White's last solo album basically did all the gimmicks.  It had locked grooves, an inside-out groove, holograms, dual grooves intro, and hidden tracks under the labels (in 45rpm and 78rpm).
 
2018-03-01 06:12:57 PM  

NeoCortex42: Slow To Return: I was about to ask, "Why do millennials hate everything their parents ever did except Vinyl" when it occurred to me, vinyl would be their GRANDparents.

Damn I feel old now.

Vinyl was still around in the 70s, which would probably be millenials' parents.


Also into the '80s, and not unusual into the '90s.
 
2018-03-01 06:13:38 PM  
The quality deteriorates pretty quickly

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2018-03-01 06:16:30 PM  

idrow: This whole vinyl infatuation is a hipster invention, with a few valid exceptions.


No, the vinyl resurgence is completely understandable for many reasons.

The cassette resurgence, however, is hipsters hipstering.
 
2018-03-01 06:17:56 PM  
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2018-03-01 06:18:59 PM  

NateAsbestos: MP3s are still a thing? I thought there go-to lossy algo nowadays was AAC?


FLAC is the go-to lossless format.  AAC is a lossy codec.  Apple's lossless codec is ALAC.  Apple refuses to add FLAC compatibility to iTunes.

That's one of the reasons why MP3 is still here, and likely to remain here for at least a bit longer.  When phones start having storage in TB, that may be when MP3 will finally move on.

Get Rich or Try Dyin': Get back to me after you've asked someone who has recently moved or is in the process of moving which is better.


This bears repeating and is why I moved on from vinyl and CD.

yakmans_dad: Vinyl was still around in the 80s. We were slow to adopt CDs and kept buying records.


Vinyl has never stopped being pressed because of dance music.  Vinyl was the most desired DJ format in the 90s, and it was only in the 00s that Pioneer's CDJs finally surpassed vinyl.  With the advent of digital DJ software, vinyl took another hit, but it's still been consistently pressed up in some genres of dance music (like techno.)

As for the video in the article, anyone familiar with Detroit techno records can tell you all about the tricks they used to do.  Overlapping tracks, locked grooves, records that spun from the center out, etc.
 
2018-03-01 06:21:14 PM  
Shaun of the Dead - Record Scene
Youtube 9qHAOY7C1go
 
2018-03-01 06:21:50 PM  
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2018-03-01 06:28:01 PM  

idrow: I grew up with vinyl.  Give me digital copies any day.  I don't miss the skipping or trying to lift the arm without scratching the vinyl.  And god forbid you bump the record player.  It was fine for the time, but I don't miss them in the least.

This whole vinyl infatuation is a hipster invention, with a few valid exceptions.


Fark yes. I grew up with cassettes and vinyl and I'd fight anyone who tried to make me go back to either one. Casettes SUCK compared to digital media. And vinyl just plain sucks all over.
 
2018-03-01 06:28:23 PM  
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2018-03-01 06:34:57 PM  

NeoCortex42: Tea_tempest_Cup: The video was actually pretty cool. Discussing multiple grooves and weird stuff that can be done with vinyl.

Jack White's last solo album basically did all the gimmicks.  It had locked grooves, an inside-out groove, holograms, dual grooves intro, and hidden tracks under the labels (in 45rpm and 78rpm).


Which album was what?
 
2018-03-01 06:38:53 PM  
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2018-03-01 06:38:57 PM  

Tea_tempest_Cup: NeoCortex42: Tea_tempest_Cup: The video was actually pretty cool. Discussing multiple grooves and weird stuff that can be done with vinyl.

Jack White's last solo album basically did all the gimmicks.  It had locked grooves, an inside-out groove, holograms, dual grooves intro, and hidden tracks under the labels (in 45rpm and 78rpm).

Which album was what?


Lazaretto.
Article and video about it.
 
2018-03-01 07:08:56 PM  
I know vinyl sounds better, but my turntable and LPs are in the closet and I can't be arsed to get them out and hooked up.  I have a good-sounding Technics receiver made in 1980 and a couple of 100 watt Sharp 3-way speakers that fill the room with rich sound at low volume, but I'm mostly running youtube playlists through it.  I do run across youtube entries with poor sound quality a lot.
 
2018-03-01 07:15:06 PM  

NeoCortex42: Tea_tempest_Cup: NeoCortex42: Tea_tempest_Cup: The video was actually pretty cool. Discussing multiple grooves and weird stuff that can be done with vinyl.

Jack White's last solo album basically did all the gimmicks.  It had locked grooves, an inside-out groove, holograms, dual grooves intro, and hidden tracks under the labels (in 45rpm and 78rpm).

Which album was what?

Lazaretto.
Article and video about it.


That's very cool. Thanks for sharing that with me. Of course it's the one Jack White/White Stripes record I don't have.
 
2018-03-01 07:22:37 PM  

Tea_tempest_Cup: NeoCortex42: Tea_tempest_Cup: NeoCortex42: Tea_tempest_Cup: The video was actually pretty cool. Discussing multiple grooves and weird stuff that can be done with vinyl.

Jack White's last solo album basically did all the gimmicks.  It had locked grooves, an inside-out groove, holograms, dual grooves intro, and hidden tracks under the labels (in 45rpm and 78rpm).

Which album was what?

Lazaretto.
Article and video about it.

That's very cool. Thanks for sharing that with me. Of course it's the one Jack White/White Stripes record I don't have.


The features for the vinyl are really cool.  It's pretty impressive all of the little tricks they put into it.  Although I can't do the hidden tracks since my turntable automatically stops when the needle gets that close to the center label.

As far as the music on it, it's...fine.  It's not a bad album at all, but aside from a couple of standout tracks, it's nothing special.  It sounds like you would expect a Jack White album to sound, but that's about it.
 
2018-03-01 07:23:40 PM  

Farkspeare: Why vinyl LPs are better...better...better


HEY Jude...
 
2018-03-01 07:38:31 PM  
Bakelite was best. 78rpm beats 33-1/3 for resolution hands down, and bakelite doesn't warp if it gets a little warm.

Being able to use a rose thorn as a stylus is an added bonus.
 
2018-03-01 07:57:39 PM  

Adebisi: idrow: This whole vinyl infatuation is a hipster invention, with a few valid exceptions.

No, the vinyl resurgence is completely understandable for many reasons.

The cassette resurgence, however, is hipsters hipstering.


Blood wipes right off of vinyl, no muss no fuss. Totally practical. However, I find that blood congeals in cassette tapes and renders them damned near unusable. Just an observation.
 
2018-03-01 08:26:54 PM  
I love my vinyl collection and my old school big ol' stereo. Have a working windows me computer that runs nero, still works cause its never been online. Plays music and handles word processing. Well, my gf got me a logitech bluetooth adapter for the big ol' stereo, so i can call up any song or album i want. It's really eclipsed all the song storage issues, and it makes finding obscure old music really easy, call it up and play it...
 
2018-03-01 08:35:21 PM  

mongbiohazard: idrow: I grew up with vinyl.  Give me digital copies any day.  I don't miss the skipping or trying to lift the arm without scratching the vinyl.  And god forbid you bump the record player.  It was fine for the time, but I don't miss them in the least.

This whole vinyl infatuation is a hipster invention, with a few valid exceptions.

Fark yes. I grew up with cassettes and vinyl and I'd fight anyone who tried to make me go back to either one. Casettes SUCK compared to digital media. And vinyl just plain sucks all over.


I don't like the sound of vinyl over what we have now but I definitely have a number of vinyl albums I've recently rebought. It is mainly emotional, I have fond memories of listening to my dad's Jimi Hendrix originals and they are no longer around.
 
2018-03-01 09:19:03 PM  
I'm a little surprised that somebody who knows about side 2 of Matching Tie and Handkerchief handles records like he does. And I'd never have put that Sonic Youth on a toy turntable.

Vinyl will always have its place because of recordings and mixes that have never been released in subsequent formats, but one of my favorite reasons is that if you're lucky enough to meet the band, they can't sign your mp3.
 
2018-03-01 10:32:53 PM  
FLAC, dammit.
 
2018-03-01 10:34:03 PM  

Flappyhead: Batman soundtrack?


Throw it.
 
2018-03-01 10:37:01 PM  

Get Rich or Try Dyin': Get back to me after you've asked someone who has recently moved or is in the process of moving which is better.


Yup. My music, videogame, and photo collections could be held in one hand while leaving room for most of my book and movie collections. Constantly moving in my 20s taught me the value of digital possessions, rentals, and streaming.

If I had stuck with buying physical copies, I'd need a bigger house.
 
2018-03-01 10:40:53 PM  

calufrax: Flappyhead: Batman soundtrack?

Throw it.


It's Prince. Not one of his best, but still not that bad.
 
2018-03-01 10:55:21 PM  

NeoCortex42: calufrax: Flappyhead: Batman soundtrack?

Throw it.

It's Prince. Not one of his best, but still not that bad.


See Billy Liar's youtube share above (quoting 2:33, but the whole video is relevant...
 
2018-03-01 10:58:12 PM  

calufrax: NeoCortex42: calufrax: Flappyhead: Batman soundtrack?

Throw it.

It's Prince. Not one of his best, but still not that bad.

See Billy Liar's youtube share above (quoting 2:33, but the whole video is relevant...


I know the scene, just think it's a better album than given credit for.
 
2018-03-02 12:11:54 AM  
I remember being a young teenager walking into Tower Records and seeing the big record displays as you walked in. Had to buy a Levi's jacket cause it was cool as all get out. Think I got it at The Squire Shop.

Recall thinking that Van Halen 1984 was the shiat, and then holy crap, I fawned over the Live After Death album for a week until I could scrap the 9 or 10 bucks together to buy that one. Wore it out in a few months. Ended up buying it a few times in vinyl, tape, then CD.

Still play it via mp3 a few times a year. "Let me see your lighters out there!"
 
2018-03-02 12:16:01 AM  
Older music, I get the appeal of LP for some.  Not me, but OK.  But new music is recorded digitally, then has to be down-converted to LP format, which invariably causes it to lose some quality (especially versus lossless formats).
 
2018-03-02 05:09:54 AM  
And vinyl was easy to include in a magazine..
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2018-03-02 07:43:11 AM  

stuartp9: And vinyl was easy to include in a magazine..
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I played the grooves out of that record. Would love a mp3 version.
Wonder if it is on youtube.
 
2018-03-02 07:48:02 AM  

GlamrLama: stuartp9: And vinyl was easy to include in a magazine..
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I played the grooves out of that record. Would love a mp3 version.
Wonder if it is on youtube.


Yup it is. Mucho thanks.
 
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