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2018-03-01 04:35:01 PM  
When Costco came to my part of NJ, they said they would match the lowest gas station price in the area. Not undercut, match. From what I have seen that has remained so all these years. Great, but the lines ..... Unless you go to Costco at the right time (or the cheapest competitor), you would probably burn off more gas money by waiting in line v. what you'd pay at the guy who cost 2 cents a gallon more but got you in and out in a few minutes.
 
2018-03-01 06:35:10 PM  
Does everyone in the state have a membership to Costco? Because you have to be a member to get their gas, right? I belong but don't get gas there, it's not convenient.
Here, one of our supermarkets has gas stations anyone can use, but when you shop and use your card (free) you earn points for money off gallons. Currently I'm at 90cents off each gallon.
 
2018-03-01 07:41:59 PM  
We're the prices broken?  Did they need to be fixed?
 
2018-03-01 07:54:38 PM  
This sounds like real BS. If Costco is able to get gas for cheaper than the rest of the chains and individual operators, charge 6% markup and still come in under the others' pricing... what exactly is the problem here? They've already got protectionist legislation in place. And to operate <1% of the gas stations in the state but receive 26% of the complaints? Something's fishy.

I'm betting these complainants are real vocal about their opposition to Big Government™ though, and voted Scott Walker and his merry band of assholes over and over.
 
2018-03-01 07:55:59 PM  
I'd love to buy gas at Costco more often as it's usually a fair bit cheaper around here. However, the drive isn't worth it, and the lines are often reminiscent of the '70s gas shortages.

One Costco covering a few cities isn't going to make any real dent in the business of the dozens/hundreds of corner stations in the same area.
 
2018-03-01 08:09:51 PM  

damageddude: When Costco came to my part of NJ, they said they would match the lowest gas station price in the area. Not undercut, match. From what I have seen that has remained so all these years. Great, but the lines ..... Unless you go to Costco at the right time (or the cheapest competitor), you would probably burn off more gas money by waiting in line v. what you'd pay at the guy who cost 2 cents a gallon more but got you in and out in a few minutes.


Is that the Costco gas station in the middle of the mall?

I've been by that one and after seeing the amount of insane 1970's fuel line mayhem you couldn't pay me to fill up there.
 
2018-03-01 08:33:08 PM  

spiralscratch: One Costco covering a few cities isn't going to make any real dent in the business of the dozens/hundreds of corner stations in the same area.


I'm not a costco member. But as far as I can tell, it's basically the Price Club model, in which case, as a single male, I have no reason to buy anything at the sizes they carry (so wouldn't benefit that much from a membership).

Plus, the nearest Costco is 1 city over and that city has a much higher population density than mine (translation: the 8 mile round trip is a pain in the ass).

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// nearest gas station to me is 1 mile away, right by the off-ramp I take to get home (so I pass it almost every day).
 
2018-03-01 08:34:40 PM  

lordargent: spiralscratch: One Costco covering a few cities isn't going to make any real dent in the business of the dozens/hundreds of corner stations in the same area.

I'm not a costco member. But as far as I can tell, it's basically the Price Club model, in which case, as a single male, I have no reason to buy anything at the sizes they carry (so wouldn't benefit that much from a membership).

Plus, the nearest Costco is 1 city over and that city has a much higher population density than mine (translation: the 8 mile round trip is a pain in the ass).

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// nearest gas station to me is 1 mile away, right by the off-ramp I take to get home (so I pass it almost every day).


I mean, all the Price Clubs around here were turned into Costcos so...yes probably.
 
2018-03-01 08:40:09 PM  
Apparently I can also take surface streets for an ~5 mile round trip, but...

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It's not saving much time over the freeway.

flond: I mean, all the Price Clubs around here were turned into Costcos so...yes probably.


Ahh, I faintly remember something like that happening.

"Price Club merged with rival Costco in 1993 and the combined company was known as PriceCostco. For a brief period, Price Club and Costco both continued to operate as two separate stores with members of either chain being able to shop at both stores with their membership cards. In 1997, PriceCostco became Costco Wholesale Corporation and the remaining Price Clubs were rebranded as Costco." - wikipedia
 I was a junior in high school in 1993.


// folks had been price club members, I never saw the appeal, but I did scarf on plenty of snack samples.
 
2018-03-01 08:47:34 PM  
Yes, I use Gas Buddy to check prices, but I'm still a regular at the corner convenience store that hasn't had gasoline since Hurricane Harvey interrupted supplies. It's good to stretch the legs, get a snack. Very busy place.

More and more I'm seeing 7-11 stores without gas pumps. Lure people in with good coffee, snacks and sodas, you might get them 4-5 times a week. Relying on people coming for gasoline to make a side trip inside isn't going to get over the loss leader prices on fuel.
 
2018-03-01 08:58:56 PM  
2 hours 15 minutes (146 miles), you a-holes.

Wait no, this is not your fault.
 
2018-03-01 09:40:47 PM  

lordargent: spiralscratch: One Costco covering a few cities isn't going to make any real dent in the business of the dozens/hundreds of corner stations in the same area.

I'm not a costco member. But as far as I can tell, it's basically the Price Club model, in which case, as a single male, I have no reason to buy anything at the sizes they carry (so wouldn't benefit that much from a membership).

Plus, the nearest Costco is 1 city over and that city has a much higher population density than mine (translation: the 8 mile round trip is a pain in the ass).

[img.fark.net image 459x121]

// nearest gas station to me is 1 mile away, right by the off-ramp I take to get home (so I pass it almost every day).


You would be surprised....I'm a single dude, and I have a Costco membership.  The money I save on alcohol alone is worth the membership fee.
 
2018-03-01 10:09:38 PM  

The_Sponge: You would be surprised....I'm a single dude, and I have a Costco membership. The money I save on alcohol alone is worth the membership fee.


Interesting,

I'm not a big drinker myself (I drink maybe 1-2 days out of a given week), but I do through parties on a regular basis.

I found an article that had some useful information
(including that in California, Costco has to allow liquor purchases even if you're not a member).
https://www.sfgate.com/living/article​/​cheapest-booze-alcohol-san-francisco-c​ostco-bevmo-12327401.php
 
2018-03-01 10:12:06 PM  
"Couple cents a gallon make difference to you?" FOX6 Investigator Bryan Polcyn asked.
"Definitely," a third driver said.


We really need to do better at teaching math in this country. Two cents a gallon at 15,000 miles per year in a car that gets 20 mpg will save you $15 over the course of a year. Even if you drive a big truck that gets 10 mpg, and drive 20,000 miles, and save an average of 5 cents, it's $100.

I get that there are folks out there who need to scrape. For the vast majority of drivers, though, $1 to $8 per month should not be worth the worry of finding the station that's $0.02/gal cheaper.
 
2018-03-01 10:14:07 PM  

flond: lordargent: spiralscratch: One Costco covering a few cities isn't going to make any real dent in the business of the dozens/hundreds of corner stations in the same area.

I'm not a costco member. But as far as I can tell, it's basically the Price Club model, in which case, as a single male, I have no reason to buy anything at the sizes they carry (so wouldn't benefit that much from a membership).

Plus, the nearest Costco is 1 city over and that city has a much higher population density than mine (translation: the 8 mile round trip is a pain in the ass).

[img.fark.net image 459x121]

// nearest gas station to me is 1 mile away, right by the off-ramp I take to get home (so I pass it almost every day).

I mean, all the Price Clubs around here were turned into Costcos so...yes probably.


We the person that created CostCo worked for Price Club. Then started his own chain modelled on Price Club. The bought out Price Club. Then turned all Price Clubs into CostCos.
 
2018-03-01 10:29:43 PM  
The guy b*tching  "is president of the Wisconsin Petroleum Marketers and Convenience Store Association."

I wonder how upset he was when the 7-11s, Circle Ks, etc. came in and put the mom and pops out of business.
 
2018-03-01 10:45:28 PM  

lindalouwho: Does everyone in the state have a membership to Costco? Because you have to be a member to get their gas, right? I belong but don't get gas there, it's not convenient.
Here, one of our supermarkets has gas stations anyone can use, but when you shop and use your card (free) you earn points for money off gallons. Currently I'm at 90cents off each gallon.


What the heck. In CA most of them do that too but they get all fine printy about limiting how much you can take off at a time, and one month can't be combined with another month, and they have to be in increments of 100 points so if you have 199 tough, and they expire. Also, the rings are invisible.
 
2018-03-01 10:49:32 PM  

lordargent: The_Sponge: You would be surprised....I'm a single dude, and I have a Costco membership. The money I save on alcohol alone is worth the membership fee.

Interesting,

I'm not a big drinker myself (I drink maybe 1-2 days out of a given week), but I do through parties on a regular basis.

I found an article that had some useful information
(including that in California, Costco has to allow liquor purchases even if you're not a member).
https://www.sfgate.com/living/article/​cheapest-booze-alcohol-san-francisco-c​ostco-bevmo-12327401.php


Even if you're not a big drinker, you can still save a lot of money on other items that aren't perishable foods.

And even with perishable foods, they do have options that work for single people...I bought some broccoli and blueberries this week, and I'll be able to eat all of it before it goes bad.

/Boring story bro.
//But I highly recommend signing up.
 
2018-03-01 10:51:33 PM  

rzrwiresunrise: This sounds like real BS. If Costco is able to get gas for cheaper than the rest of the chains and individual operators, charge 6% markup and still come in under the others' pricing... what exactly is the problem here? They've already got protectionist legislation in place. And to operate <1% of the gas stations in the state but receive 26% of the complaints? Something's fishy.

I'm betting these complainants are real vocal about their opposition to Big Government™ though, and voted Scott Walker and his merry band of assholes over and over.


It's per offense and call. So if they break the rules (undercharging, changing prices more than once per day, et al) they might have five competitors complain, for each offense. If the competitors are following the rules, and most stations do follow the rules, they will not have a complaint filed. Therein Costco could easily end up with a disproportionately large number of complaints despite the small number of stores.

So your logic is flawed.
 
2018-03-01 11:07:01 PM  

lordargent: spiralscratch: One Costco covering a few cities isn't going to make any real dent in the business of the dozens/hundreds of corner stations in the same area.

I'm not a costco member. But as far as I can tell, it's basically the Price Club model, in which case, as a single male, I have no reason to buy anything at the sizes they carry (so wouldn't benefit that much from a membership).

Plus, the nearest Costco is 1 city over and that city has a much higher population density than mine (translation: the 8 mile round trip is a pain in the ass).

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// nearest gas station to me is 1 mile away, right by the off-ramp I take to get home (so I pass it almost every day).


I bet you're a blast at parties.
 
2018-03-01 11:09:41 PM  

almandot: lindalouwho: Does everyone in the state have a membership to Costco? Because you have to be a member to get their gas, right? I belong but don't get gas there, it's not convenient.
Here, one of our supermarkets has gas stations anyone can use, but when you shop and use your card (free) you earn points for money off gallons. Currently I'm at 90cents off each gallon.

What the heck. In CA most of them do that too but they get all fine printy about limiting how much you can take off at a time, and one month can't be combined with another month, and they have to be in increments of 100 points so if you have 199 tough, and they expire. Also, the rings are invisible.


They do expire but it's much longer, not sure exactly. But I just went shopping today, it's the first of the month and nothing expired.
The highest I ever got was $1.30.
If you don't have your card with you at the register when shopping you can enter your phone number. The trick is to have your friends without cars use your number (you give them rides sometimes, right?). They still get the grocery discount, and you can't use the gas points unless you do have the card.
 
2018-03-01 11:09:49 PM  

The_Sponge: lordargent: spiralscratch: One Costco covering a few cities isn't going to make any real dent in the business of the dozens/hundreds of corner stations in the same area.

I'm not a costco member. But as far as I can tell, it's basically the Price Club model, in which case, as a single male, I have no reason to buy anything at the sizes they carry (so wouldn't benefit that much from a membership).

Plus, the nearest Costco is 1 city over and that city has a much higher population density than mine (translation: the 8 mile round trip is a pain in the ass).

[img.fark.net image 459x121]

// nearest gas station to me is 1 mile away, right by the off-ramp I take to get home (so I pass it almost every day).

You would be surprised....I'm a single dude, and I have a Costco membership.  The money I save on alcohol alone is worth the membership fee.


Also electronics, assuming they have what you're looking for. Some of the TV and laptop deals are really good. Also prescriptions (though apparently is some states you don't need a membership to use their pharmacy).

/$5, 3lb rotisserie chicken...
 
2018-03-01 11:12:20 PM  

spiralscratch: The_Sponge: lordargent: spiralscratch: One Costco covering a few cities isn't going to make any real dent in the business of the dozens/hundreds of corner stations in the same area.

I'm not a costco member. But as far as I can tell, it's basically the Price Club model, in which case, as a single male, I have no reason to buy anything at the sizes they carry (so wouldn't benefit that much from a membership).

Plus, the nearest Costco is 1 city over and that city has a much higher population density than mine (translation: the 8 mile round trip is a pain in the ass).

[img.fark.net image 459x121]

// nearest gas station to me is 1 mile away, right by the off-ramp I take to get home (so I pass it almost every day).

You would be surprised....I'm a single dude, and I have a Costco membership.  The money I save on alcohol alone is worth the membership fee.

Also electronics, assuming they have what you're looking for. Some of the TV and laptop deals are really good. Also prescriptions (though apparently is some states you don't need a membership to use their pharmacy).

/$5, 3lb rotisserie chicken...


And lunch!  $1.50 for a Polish sausage and soda.
 
2018-03-01 11:13:23 PM  

The_Sponge: spiralscratch: The_Sponge: lordargent: spiralscratch: One Costco covering a few cities isn't going to make any real dent in the business of the dozens/hundreds of corner stations in the same area.

I'm not a costco member. But as far as I can tell, it's basically the Price Club model, in which case, as a single male, I have no reason to buy anything at the sizes they carry (so wouldn't benefit that much from a membership).

Plus, the nearest Costco is 1 city over and that city has a much higher population density than mine (translation: the 8 mile round trip is a pain in the ass).

[img.fark.net image 459x121]

// nearest gas station to me is 1 mile away, right by the off-ramp I take to get home (so I pass it almost every day).

You would be surprised....I'm a single dude, and I have a Costco membership.  The money I save on alcohol alone is worth the membership fee.

Also electronics, assuming they have what you're looking for. Some of the TV and laptop deals are really good. Also prescriptions (though apparently is some states you don't need a membership to use their pharmacy).

/$5, 3lb rotisserie chicken...

And lunch!  $1.50 for a Polish sausage and soda.


I just love Costco, beats Sam's Club by miles.
 
2018-03-01 11:22:57 PM  

The_Sponge: spiralscratch: The_Sponge: lordargent: spiralscratch: One Costco covering a few cities isn't going to make any real dent in the business of the dozens/hundreds of corner stations in the same area.

I'm not a costco member. But as far as I can tell, it's basically the Price Club model, in which case, as a single male, I have no reason to buy anything at the sizes they carry (so wouldn't benefit that much from a membership).

Plus, the nearest Costco is 1 city over and that city has a much higher population density than mine (translation: the 8 mile round trip is a pain in the ass).

[img.fark.net image 459x121]

// nearest gas station to me is 1 mile away, right by the off-ramp I take to get home (so I pass it almost every day).

You would be surprised....I'm a single dude, and I have a Costco membership.  The money I save on alcohol alone is worth the membership fee.

Also electronics, assuming they have what you're looking for. Some of the TV and laptop deals are really good. Also prescriptions (though apparently is some states you don't need a membership to use their pharmacy).

/$5, 3lb rotisserie chicken...

And lunch!  $1.50 for a Polish sausage and soda.


Do you need a membership for that? At my local one the restaurant is outside the main store.
 
2018-03-01 11:28:21 PM  

dywed88: The_Sponge: spiralscratch: The_Sponge: lordargent: spiralscratch: One Costco covering a few cities isn't going to make any real dent in the business of the dozens/hundreds of corner stations in the same area.

I'm not a costco member. But as far as I can tell, it's basically the Price Club model, in which case, as a single male, I have no reason to buy anything at the sizes they carry (so wouldn't benefit that much from a membership).

Plus, the nearest Costco is 1 city over and that city has a much higher population density than mine (translation: the 8 mile round trip is a pain in the ass).

[img.fark.net image 459x121]

// nearest gas station to me is 1 mile away, right by the off-ramp I take to get home (so I pass it almost every day).

You would be surprised....I'm a single dude, and I have a Costco membership.  The money I save on alcohol alone is worth the membership fee.

Also electronics, assuming they have what you're looking for. Some of the TV and laptop deals are really good. Also prescriptions (though apparently is some states you don't need a membership to use their pharmacy).

/$5, 3lb rotisserie chicken...

And lunch!  $1.50 for a Polish sausage and soda.

Do you need a membership for that? At my local one the restaurant is outside the main store.


Well shiat, I believe you're right.  The food counter at mine is indoors, but IIRC, you don't need a membership to eat at that one, either.
 
2018-03-01 11:39:37 PM  

The_Sponge: dywed88: The_Sponge: spiralscratch: The_Sponge: lordargent: spiralscratch: One Costco covering a few cities isn't going to make any real dent in the business of the dozens/hundreds of corner stations in the same area.

I'm not a costco member. But as far as I can tell, it's basically the Price Club model, in which case, as a single male, I have no reason to buy anything at the sizes they carry (so wouldn't benefit that much from a membership).

Plus, the nearest Costco is 1 city over and that city has a much higher population density than mine (translation: the 8 mile round trip is a pain in the ass).

[img.fark.net image 459x121]

// nearest gas station to me is 1 mile away, right by the off-ramp I take to get home (so I pass it almost every day).

You would be surprised....I'm a single dude, and I have a Costco membership.  The money I save on alcohol alone is worth the membership fee.

Also electronics, assuming they have what you're looking for. Some of the TV and laptop deals are really good. Also prescriptions (though apparently is some states you don't need a membership to use their pharmacy).

/$5, 3lb rotisserie chicken...

And lunch!  $1.50 for a Polish sausage and soda.

Do you need a membership for that? At my local one the restaurant is outside the main store.

Well shiat, I believe you're right.  The food counter at mine is indoors, but IIRC, you don't need a membership to eat at that one, either.


In Vancouver it is on the corner. Between the Hockey arena and Football stadium. The restaurant in in a little structure off the side with its own entrance.

Don't go the evening of a football or hockey game, or worst, a Jehovah's Witnesses conference getting out.
 
2018-03-01 11:56:16 PM  
FTFA: "...the Wisconsin Department of Agriculture, Trade and Consumer Protection has received two dozen complaints about the price of gas at Costco in Menomonee Falls since it opened in the fall of 2015. Seven of those complaints were filed by Sony Pal."

So other than this half-wit, a grand total of seventeen people in the entire state of Wisconsin have filed complaints in the past 2+ years.  Yeah, that's a real pressing issue.  Alert the governor!
 
2018-03-02 12:45:32 AM  

damageddude: When Costco came to my part of NJ, they said they would match the lowest gas station price in the area. Not undercut, match. From what I have seen that has remained so all these years. Great, but the lines ..... Unless you go to Costco at the right time (or the cheapest competitor), you would probably burn off more gas money by waiting in line v. what you'd pay at the guy who cost 2 cents a gallon more but got you in and out in a few minutes.


NJ has weird laws, along with the full service thing, that prohibit 'gas clubs', so technically anyone can fill up at a Costco/Sam's/BJ's station in NJ. Probably plays a part into why their prices aren't much different. I'm surprised they even bother with gas stations at all in NJ...gas isn't a moneymaker (and even less-so for a Costco gas station), but definitely not when you have to have all those extra people on the payroll.
 
2018-03-02 12:58:24 AM  

dywed88: The_Sponge: dywed88: The_Sponge: spiralscratch: The_Sponge: lordargent: spiralscratch: One Costco covering a few cities isn't going to make any real dent in the business of the dozens/hundreds of corner stations in the same area.

I'm not a costco member. But as far as I can tell, it's basically the Price Club model, in which case, as a single male, I have no reason to buy anything at the sizes they carry (so wouldn't benefit that much from a membership).

Plus, the nearest Costco is 1 city over and that city has a much higher population density than mine (translation: the 8 mile round trip is a pain in the ass).

[img.fark.net image 459x121]

// nearest gas station to me is 1 mile away, right by the off-ramp I take to get home (so I pass it almost every day).

You would be surprised....I'm a single dude, and I have a Costco membership.  The money I save on alcohol alone is worth the membership fee.

Also electronics, assuming they have what you're looking for. Some of the TV and laptop deals are really good. Also prescriptions (though apparently is some states you don't need a membership to use their pharmacy).

/$5, 3lb rotisserie chicken...

And lunch!  $1.50 for a Polish sausage and soda.

Do you need a membership for that? At my local one the restaurant is outside the main store.

Well shiat, I believe you're right.  The food counter at mine is indoors, but IIRC, you don't need a membership to eat at that one, either.

In Vancouver it is on the corner. Between the Hockey arena and Football stadium. The restaurant in in a little structure off the side with its own entrance.

Don't go the evening of a football or hockey game, or worst, a Jehovah's Witnesses conference getting out.


Vancouver, WA?  We have a football stadium and a Hockey arena??????
 
2018-03-02 12:59:27 AM  

wolfemane: dywed88: The_Sponge: dywed88: The_Sponge: spiralscratch: The_Sponge: lordargent: spiralscratch: One Costco covering a few cities isn't going to make any real dent in the business of the dozens/hundreds of corner stations in the same area.

I'm not a costco member. But as far as I can tell, it's basically the Price Club model, in which case, as a single male, I have no reason to buy anything at the sizes they carry (so wouldn't benefit that much from a membership).

Plus, the nearest Costco is 1 city over and that city has a much higher population density than mine (translation: the 8 mile round trip is a pain in the ass).

[img.fark.net image 459x121]

// nearest gas station to me is 1 mile away, right by the off-ramp I take to get home (so I pass it almost every day).

You would be surprised....I'm a single dude, and I have a Costco membership.  The money I save on alcohol alone is worth the membership fee.

Also electronics, assuming they have what you're looking for. Some of the TV and laptop deals are really good. Also prescriptions (though apparently is some states you don't need a membership to use their pharmacy).

/$5, 3lb rotisserie chicken...

And lunch!  $1.50 for a Polish sausage and soda.

Do you need a membership for that? At my local one the restaurant is outside the main store.

Well shiat, I believe you're right.  The food counter at mine is indoors, but IIRC, you don't need a membership to eat at that one, either.

In Vancouver it is on the corner. Between the Hockey arena and Football stadium. The restaurant in in a little structure off the side with its own entrance.

Don't go the evening of a football or hockey game, or worst, a Jehovah's Witnesses conference getting out.

Vancouver, WA?  We have a football stadium and a Hockey arena??????


No, the good one.
 
2018-03-02 01:01:09 AM  

dywed88: wolfemane: dywed88: The_Sponge: dywed88: The_Sponge: spiralscratch: The_Sponge: lordargent: spiralscratch: One Costco covering a few cities isn't going to make any real dent in the business of the dozens/hundreds of corner stations in the same area.

I'm not a costco member. But as far as I can tell, it's basically the Price Club model, in which case, as a single male, I have no reason to buy anything at the sizes they carry (so wouldn't benefit that much from a membership).

Plus, the nearest Costco is 1 city over and that city has a much higher population density than mine (translation: the 8 mile round trip is a pain in the ass).

[img.fark.net image 459x121]

// nearest gas station to me is 1 mile away, right by the off-ramp I take to get home (so I pass it almost every day).

You would be surprised....I'm a single dude, and I have a Costco membership.  The money I save on alcohol alone is worth the membership fee.

Also electronics, assuming they have what you're looking for. Some of the TV and laptop deals are really good. Also prescriptions (though apparently is some states you don't need a membership to use their pharmacy).

/$5, 3lb rotisserie chicken...

And lunch!  $1.50 for a Polish sausage and soda.

Do you need a membership for that? At my local one the restaurant is outside the main store.

Well shiat, I believe you're right.  The food counter at mine is indoors, but IIRC, you don't need a membership to eat at that one, either.

In Vancouver it is on the corner. Between the Hockey arena and Football stadium. The restaurant in in a little structure off the side with its own entrance.

Don't go the evening of a football or hockey game, or worst, a Jehovah's Witnesses conference getting out.

Vancouver, WA?  We have a football stadium and a Hockey arena??????

No, the good one.


Damnit!  Got my hopes up...
 
2018-03-02 01:10:31 AM  

The_Sponge: dywed88: The_Sponge: spiralscratch: The_Sponge: lordargent: spiralscratch: One Costco covering a few cities isn't going to make any real dent in the business of the dozens/hundreds of corner stations in the same area.

I'm not a costco member. But as far as I can tell, it's basically the Price Club model, in which case, as a single male, I have no reason to buy anything at the sizes they carry (so wouldn't benefit that much from a membership).

Plus, the nearest Costco is 1 city over and that city has a much higher population density than mine (translation: the 8 mile round trip is a pain in the ass).

[img.fark.net image 459x121]

// nearest gas station to me is 1 mile away, right by the off-ramp I take to get home (so I pass it almost every day).

You would be surprised....I'm a single dude, and I have a Costco membership.  The money I save on alcohol alone is worth the membership fee.

Also electronics, assuming they have what you're looking for. Some of the TV and laptop deals are really good. Also prescriptions (though apparently is some states you don't need a membership to use their pharmacy).

/$5, 3lb rotisserie chicken...

And lunch!  $1.50 for a Polish sausage and soda.

Do you need a membership for that? At my local one the restaurant is outside the main store.

Well shiat, I believe you're right.  The food counter at mine is indoors, but IIRC, you don't need a membership to eat at that one, either.


I'm going to wager that you go to the Shoreline one. I've gotten grief trying to walk in through the out door to get a hot dog before shopping. Sometimes just kept walking fast, most other times flash my multi pass.

Have now found it's much easier to grab a cart, put a box of granola bars in it, then weave through the cashiers to get the grub. Then head back to cart, remove granola bars, get a rotisserie chicken.
 
2018-03-02 01:25:23 AM  

baxterdog: The_Sponge: dywed88: The_Sponge: spiralscratch: The_Sponge: lordargent: spiralscratch: One Costco covering a few cities isn't going to make any real dent in the business of the dozens/hundreds of corner stations in the same area.

I'm not a costco member. But as far as I can tell, it's basically the Price Club model, in which case, as a single male, I have no reason to buy anything at the sizes they carry (so wouldn't benefit that much from a membership).

Plus, the nearest Costco is 1 city over and that city has a much higher population density than mine (translation: the 8 mile round trip is a pain in the ass).

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// nearest gas station to me is 1 mile away, right by the off-ramp I take to get home (so I pass it almost every day).

You would be surprised....I'm a single dude, and I have a Costco membership.  The money I save on alcohol alone is worth the membership fee.

Also electronics, assuming they have what you're looking for. Some of the TV and laptop deals are really good. Also prescriptions (though apparently is some states you don't need a membership to use their pharmacy).

/$5, 3lb rotisserie chicken...

And lunch!  $1.50 for a Polish sausage and soda.

Do you need a membership for that? At my local one the restaurant is outside the main store.

Well shiat, I believe you're right.  The food counter at mine is indoors, but IIRC, you don't need a membership to eat at that one, either.

I'm going to wager that you go to the Shoreline one. I've gotten grief trying to walk in through the out door to get a hot dog before shopping. Sometimes just kept walking fast, most other times flash my multi pass.

Have now found it's much easier to grab a cart, put a box of granola bars in it, then weave through the cashiers to get the grub. Then head back to cart, remove granola bars, get a rotisserie chicken.


Close....Lynnwood.
 
2018-03-02 04:35:06 AM  
I remember Wisconsin being very strange when it came to gas. I was visiting Stevens Point in the middle of the state and noticed that every single gas station seemed to be charging exactly the same amount per gallon of gas, down to the tenth of a penny. There was no variation at all.

I'm not sure if it was the best scenario for the consumer in terms of prices, but it did make filling up very straightforward after I got used to it. Just find the nearest, most convenient station and fill up. The price was the price.
 
2018-03-02 05:06:48 AM  
A tariff will fix it.
 
2018-03-02 08:19:24 AM  
A friend owns a successful gas station. He told me he always loses money on gas, he has to buy it and sell it for the same price.  He makes his money on selling sodas, chips, candy and hot food.  Gas just gets people into the store.
 
2018-03-02 08:25:21 AM  

damageddude: you would probably burn off more gas money by waiting in line v. what you'd pay at the guy who cost 2 cents a gallon more but got you in and out in a few minutes.


I love my hybrid.  Not moving?  Let's shut off that gas engine for ya.

/cue South Park references
 
2018-03-02 10:02:22 AM  

stuhayes2010: A friend owns a successful gas station. He told me he always loses money on gas, he has to buy it and sell it for the same price.  He makes his money on selling sodas, chips, candy and hot food.  Gas just gets people into the store.


That is fairly standard, but you don't always lose money selling petrol. However all of your real profit is on inside sales, like what you list.

Corydon: I remember Wisconsin being very strange when it came to gas. I was visiting Stevens Point in the middle of the state and noticed that every single gas station seemed to be charging exactly the same amount per gallon of gas, down to the tenth of a penny. There was no variation at all.

I'm not sure if it was the best scenario for the consumer in terms of prices, but it did make filling up very straightforward after I got used to it. Just find the nearest, most convenient station and fill up. The price was the price.


You can price match any station within a certain number of miles from your station. This means larger cities, with more competition, have better pricing than small cities like Steven's Point. That also means there can, easily, be variation across a larger city.
 
2018-03-02 10:42:54 AM  

lizyrd: "Couple cents a gallon make difference to you?" FOX6 Investigator Bryan Polcyn asked.
"Definitely," a third driver said.

We really need to do better at teaching math in this country. Two cents a gallon at 15,000 miles per year in a car that gets 20 mpg will save you $15 over the course of a year. Even if you drive a big truck that gets 10 mpg, and drive 20,000 miles, and save an average of 5 cents, it's $100.

I get that there are folks out there who need to scrape. For the vast majority of drivers, though, $1 to $8 per month should not be worth the worry of finding the station that's $0.02/gal cheaper.


I've never understood this either. Bone dry, my tank holds 16 gallons, even if it was .05 per gallon cheaper, that would only net me an 80 cent savings on a tank. It's simply not worth the effort of driving out of my way and waiting in lines.
 
2018-03-02 12:12:20 PM  

lordargent: spiralscratch: One Costco covering a few cities isn't going to make any real dent in the business of the dozens/hundreds of corner stations in the same area.

I'm not a costco member. But as far as I can tell, it's basically the Price Club model, in which case, as a single male, I have no reason to buy anything at the sizes they carry (so wouldn't benefit that much from a membership).

Plus, the nearest Costco is 1 city over and that city has a much higher population density than mine (translation: the 8 mile round trip is a pain in the ass).

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// nearest gas station to me is 1 mile away, right by the off-ramp I take to get home (so I pass it almost every day).


My problem is I usually wait to get gas until there are just enough fumes in the tank to get me to the gas station about a quarter mile down the street. Either way, I'm not diving all the way to costco to save 60 cents on a tank of gas.
 
2018-03-02 01:03:41 PM  
My Costco is in an upscale Illinois North Shore area.

I'm always amused as I join the line of Lexii, BMWs, Porsches, Caddys, Mercedes, and even more exotic cars, in my Lincoln (|-{) as we're saving 6 cents a gallon.   I figured out the last time that I saved $3....after my "quick trip" inside where I dropped $150.
 
2018-03-02 02:17:29 PM  

MBZ321: NJ has weird laws, along with the full service thing, that prohibit 'gas clubs', so technically anyone can fill up at a Costco/Sam's/BJ's station in NJ. Probably plays a part into why their prices aren't much different. I'm surprised they even bother with gas stations at all in NJ...gas isn't a moneymaker (and even less-so for a Costco gas station), but definitely not when you have to have all those extra people on the payroll.


If a normal gas station can make profit on it, then so can Costco. You're right that compared to the money going on inside the store it probably doesn't appear worth the effort on the balance sheet, but it also brings members to the location, who probably do some shopping at the same time.
 
2018-03-02 05:11:07 PM  

ReapTheChaos: lizyrd: "Couple cents a gallon make difference to you?" FOX6 Investigator Bryan Polcyn asked.
"Definitely," a third driver said.

We really need to do better at teaching math in this country. Two cents a gallon at 15,000 miles per year in a car that gets 20 mpg will save you $15 over the course of a year. Even if you drive a big truck that gets 10 mpg, and drive 20,000 miles, and save an average of 5 cents, it's $100.

I get that there are folks out there who need to scrape. For the vast majority of drivers, though, $1 to $8 per month should not be worth the worry of finding the station that's $0.02/gal cheaper.

I've never understood this either. Bone dry, my tank holds 16 gallons, even if it was .05 per gallon cheaper, that would only net me an 80 cent savings on a tank. It's simply not worth the effort of driving out of my way and waiting in lines.


Near where I live most stations charge an extra $.10 a gallon to use a credit or debit card. Costco doesn't so with a base price $.05 lower you're really saving $.15 a gallon plus the convenience of using a card and just filling the tank instead of guesstimating how much to pre-pay for, or whatever.
 
2018-03-03 12:04:26 AM  

steve_wmn: Near where I live most stations charge an extra $.10 a gallon to use a credit or debit card. Costco doesn't so with a base price $.05 lower you're really saving $.15 a gallon plus the convenience of using a card and just filling the tank instead of guesstimating how much to pre-pay for, or whatever.


And if you get the Costco visa card it's 4% cash back on gas. On $2.50/gallon that's another $0.10 saved.
 
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