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(Some Guy)   Photos of Apple's "largest and thinnest iPhone ever" are leaked online. If you extrapolate, we're just a few steps away from a phone with the same form factor as a sheet of copier paper   ( theultralinx.com) divider line
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2018-03-01 01:14:26 PM  
And it won't matter because I'll have to put this big-azz case on it.

Seriously, tho. Can we stop with the thinnening of everything? Keep it a little thicker, get a bigger battery, etc.

Same with laptops. Make it a little thicker, go back to actual RAM slots, and user-servicable hard drives/SSDs.

/Smithers. Release the hounds.
 
2018-03-01 02:03:32 PM  
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2018-03-01 02:06:13 PM  
If I can't fit it in my pocket, it ceases to be a mobile phone, now doesn't it.
 
2018-03-01 04:40:26 PM  
LGs panels sucked for Pixel 2 XL, whilst Samsungs panels where awesome for the Pixel 2.

At some point a phone is thin enough. I have a Nexus 6P, and its almost to thin to be comfortable to hold.
 
2018-03-01 04:55:17 PM  
Oh, great.  Now Apple is going to sue everyone who has a sheet of copier paper for infringement of its design patent.
 
2018-03-01 04:55:51 PM  

Leandros A: If I can't fit it in my pocket, it ceases to be a mobile phone, now doesn't it.


Say what?

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/it was great when you could tie your phone into the vehicle horn to honk when it went off in the field
 
2018-03-01 04:55:58 PM  
Is this another idiotic headline from Bith Set Me Up, the dunce that hasn't actually lifted an iPhone in the last two years apparently?
 
2018-03-01 04:59:59 PM  
Slip that into your pants pocket and sit down...
 
2018-03-01 05:04:50 PM  
I think it looks great. I'll probably buy one, but my current iPhone would have to stop working first.
 
2018-03-01 05:05:11 PM  

Pinner: Slip that into your pants pocket and sit down...


Fark is not your personal erotica site.
 
2018-03-01 05:05:48 PM  
"Thinnest," "lightest" but needs a giant, tactile rubber or plastic case to house it, lest it slip easily out of your hand at every opportunity.
 
2018-03-01 05:09:02 PM  

sirrerun: "Thinnest," "lightest" but needs a giant, tactile rubber or plastic case to house it, lest it slip easily out of your hand at every opportunity.


Not all of us have rubbed the fingerprints off our hands yet, Blindy McHairypalms
 
2018-03-01 05:10:03 PM  

Uncle Eazy: And it won't matter because I'll have to put this big-azz case on it.

Seriously, tho. Can we stop with the thinnening of everything? Keep it a little thicker, get a bigger battery, etc.

Same with laptops. Make it a little thicker, go back to actual RAM slots, and user-servicable hard drives/SSDs.

/Smithers. Release the hounds.


Just got a Dell XPS 15. It has RAM slots and an NVMe SSD. It comes apart easily and those components as well as a bunch of other stuff can be swapped out if needed. Nobody is forcing you to buy an Apple fully-soldered computer.
 
2018-03-01 05:10:58 PM  
I couldn't get a big enough phone for a few years there and I loved it because it was easier to see. Then finally it happened and I got a phone that didn't fit comfortably in my pocket so I went back down a size. For me, 3" x 5.5 inches is about perfect. Big enough to see, small enough to fit in the pocket. I haven't assigned any points to thinness for probably five years now. I neither need nor want my shiat to get any thinner than it has been for several years now. I just don't see any benefit to it.
 
2018-03-01 05:14:39 PM  

Ketchuponsteak: LGs panels sucked for Pixel 2 XL, whilst Samsungs panels where awesome for the Pixel 2.

At some point a phone is thin enough. I have a Nexus 6P, and its almost to thin to be comfortable to hold.


Yeah. I'm now putting cases on phones not to protect them but to bulk them up enough to be usable
 
2018-03-01 05:15:19 PM  

Oreminer: Leandros A: If I can't fit it in my pocket, it ceases to be a mobile phone, now doesn't it.

Say what?

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/it was great when you could tie your phone into the vehicle horn to honk when it went off in the field


That's not going to fit in my murse, I'm afraid.
 
2018-03-01 05:16:06 PM  

JohnBigBootay: For me, 3" x 5.5 inches is about perfect.


call me
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2018-03-01 05:17:14 PM  

Uncle Eazy: get a bigger battery


Every survey I've seen, this is #1, but phone engineers are obsessed with thinner.  You'd think they were fashion designers!
 
2018-03-01 05:34:04 PM  
I'm expecting them start printing the phones from glass up using something akin to wafer fab techniques.
 
2018-03-01 05:39:43 PM  
It confused me at first when I scrolled down and saw a picture of a train. Apparently that was an advertisement.

I mean, for all I know, a tech journalist could confuse the two.
 
2018-03-01 06:09:24 PM  
Apple doesn't release new phones this early in the year.  And Android makers have been tripping over themselves to copy the iPhone X look.
 
2018-03-01 06:16:54 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: JohnBigBootay: For me, 3" x 5.5 inches is about perfect.

call me
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Ha. Nice try champ. I meant 3" diameter, not circumference.
 
2018-03-01 06:20:45 PM  

natazha: Uncle Eazy: get a bigger battery

Every survey I've seen, this is #1, but phone engineers are obsessed with thinner.  You'd think they were fashion designers!


There is a reason for that.  It turns out that if you give 10 to 500 random consumers $100 of monopoly singles to spend on a big board with 25 different device improvements, a full third of the money ends up in 'Thinner' every time.  Thinner edges out battery life by a few percent as being the thing on which people will spend the most incremental dollars.

/I think thinner can go hang, but I will never buy a $600 phone so my opinion matters not in the least.
//I have seen the actual demo of the flexible copier paper sized writable OLED screen at least ten times now
///I am all on board with bigger. Five inch screens are glasses removal territory.
 
2018-03-01 06:33:43 PM  
I think it was Cory Doctorow that gave a talk years ago about the best form factor for a hand held device.  He though it would be something that was normally cloth-like and with the 'wad-ability' as a handkerchief that could flatten and harden on command into a tablet.  Coming soon the iHanky.
 
2018-03-01 06:36:58 PM  

Russ1642: Uncle Eazy: And it won't matter because I'll have to put this big-azz case on it.

Seriously, tho. Can we stop with the thinnening of everything? Keep it a little thicker, get a bigger battery, etc.

Same with laptops. Make it a little thicker, go back to actual RAM slots, and user-servicable hard drives/SSDs.

/Smithers. Release the hounds.

Just got a Dell XPS 15. It has RAM slots and an NVMe SSD. It comes apart easily and those components as well as a bunch of other stuff can be swapped out if needed. Nobody is forcing you to buy an Apple fully-soldered computer.


I'm sure glad Apple is the only one the does that. *eye roll*
 
2018-03-01 06:53:20 PM  
Introducing the iPhone A4.....
 
2018-03-01 06:58:36 PM  
...but I was told curved phones are the future.

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2018-03-01 07:26:08 PM  
It's pretty much the same size as an iPhone Plus, once you get rid of the bezels.
 
2018-03-01 07:27:34 PM  

Uncle Eazy: Russ1642: Uncle Eazy: And it won't matter because I'll have to put this big-azz case on it.

Seriously, tho. Can we stop with the thinnening of everything? Keep it a little thicker, get a bigger battery, etc.

Same with laptops. Make it a little thicker, go back to actual RAM slots, and user-servicable hard drives/SSDs.

/Smithers. Release the hounds.

Just got a Dell XPS 15. It has RAM slots and an NVMe SSD. It comes apart easily and those components as well as a bunch of other stuff can be swapped out if needed. Nobody is forcing you to buy an Apple fully-soldered computer.

I'm sure glad Apple is the only one the does that. *eye roll*


Well, who else solders their laptop components? On a phone it at least makes more sense considering the jostling they endure and the size and weight constraints
 
2018-03-01 07:32:17 PM  

Russ1642: Well, who else solders their laptop components? On a phone it at least makes more sense considering the jostling they endure and the size and weight constraints


A lot in the ultrabook category will have something soldered.  Usually RAM.
 
2018-03-01 07:37:15 PM  

gingerjet: Apple doesn't release new phones this early in the year.  And Android makers have been tripping over themselves to copy the iPhone X look.


We don't but we work on them.

No one in the article said they was a new iphone being released.
 
2018-03-01 07:46:45 PM  

Shazam999: Russ1642: Well, who else solders their laptop components? On a phone it at least makes more sense considering the jostling they endure and the size and weight constraints

A lot in the ultrabook category will have something soldered.  Usually RAM.


The vast majority of laptops still have components that can be easily maintained.
 
2018-03-01 08:06:24 PM  
 
2018-03-01 08:22:55 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: I think it looks great. I'll probably buy one, but my current iPhone would have to stop working first.


This. I have a 7. Missus has a 6+. Offspring has a 5S. We are off the upgrade treadmill. They stay until they die or are no longer supported and become a security risk.
 
2018-03-01 09:53:53 PM  

NIXON YOU DOLT!!!!!: AverageAmericanGuy: I think it looks great. I'll probably buy one, but my current iPhone would have to stop working first.

This. I have a 7. Missus has a 6+. Offspring has a 5S. We are off the upgrade treadmill. They stay until they die or are no longer supported and become a security risk.


The phones or the offspring?
 
2018-03-01 10:27:15 PM  

Russ1642: Uncle Eazy: Russ1642: Uncle Eazy: And it won't matter because I'll have to put this big-azz case on it.

Seriously, tho. Can we stop with the thinnening of everything? Keep it a little thicker, get a bigger battery, etc.

Same with laptops. Make it a little thicker, go back to actual RAM slots, and user-servicable hard drives/SSDs.

/Smithers. Release the hounds.

Just got a Dell XPS 15. It has RAM slots and an NVMe SSD. It comes apart easily and those components as well as a bunch of other stuff can be swapped out if needed. Nobody is forcing you to buy an Apple fully-soldered computer.

I'm sure glad Apple is the only one the does that. *eye roll*

Well, who else solders their laptop components? On a phone it at least makes more sense considering the jostling they endure and the size and weight constraints


Most machines listed as ultra books. I would assume the Microsoft Surface line is all soldered.
 
2018-03-01 11:02:39 PM  
I don't see anything in the article, or the other article it linked to, that says anything about the thickness of the phone.
 
2018-03-02 03:37:10 AM  

gingerjet: Apple doesn't release new phones this early in the year.  And Android makers have been tripping over themselves to copy the iPhone X look.


Wot?

Which manufacturers in particular, and what aspect of the iPhone are they trying to copy.
All of the new features of the iPhone X existed in android devices a long time ago. The bezelless display on Samsung phones, and that awful notch on the top, on the Essential phone.
The only new feature Apple introduced was the animated emoji.
 
2018-03-02 05:41:58 AM  

Cormee: gingerjet: Apple doesn't release new phones this early in the year.  And Android makers have been tripping over themselves to copy the iPhone X look.

Wot?

Which manufacturers in particular, and what aspect of the iPhone are they trying to copy.
All of the new features of the iPhone X existed in android devices a long time ago. The bezelless display on Samsung phones, and that awful notch on the top, on the Essential phone.
The only new feature Apple introduced was the animated emoji.


So what you are claiming is that manufacturers are rushing to copy the round cutout on Andy Rubin's failed Essential Phone?

Because that's not what's happening.

They are rushing to copy Apple's notch.

Hell, we already know Google is copying it for the next version of Android as well, but the manufacturers didn't even wait for that.

Ahead of today's Zenfone 5 launch at Mobile World Congress 2018, Asus hosted a media briefing to tell us about its new phone and directly address the very familiar notch at the top of the device. "Some people will say it's copying Apple," said Marcel Campos, Asus' global head of marketing, "but we cannot get away from what users want. You have to follow the trends." So that's settled: the iPhone-esque notch is now trendy and we're all going to have to marvel at it across a diversity of Android devices, including the new Asus Zenfone.
 
2018-03-02 05:57:57 AM  

BullBearMS: Cormee: gingerjet: Apple doesn't release new phones this early in the year.  And Android makers have been tripping over themselves to copy the iPhone X look.

Wot?

Which manufacturers in particular, and what aspect of the iPhone are they trying to copy.
All of the new features of the iPhone X existed in android devices a long time ago. The bezelless display on Samsung phones, and that awful notch on the top, on the Essential phone.
The only new feature Apple introduced was the animated emoji.

So what you are claiming is that manufacturers are rushing to copy the round cutout on Andy Rubin's failed Essential Phone?

Because that's not what's happening.

They are rushing to copy Apple's notch.

Hell, we already know Google is copying it for the next version of Android as well, but the manufacturers didn't even wait for that.

Ahead of today's Zenfone 5 launch at Mobile World Congress 2018, Asus hosted a media briefing to tell us about its new phone and directly address the very familiar notch at the top of the device. "Some people will say it's copying Apple," said Marcel Campos, Asus' global head of marketing, "but we cannot get away from what users want. You have to follow the trends." So that's settled: the iPhone-esque notch is now trendy and we're all going to have to marvel at it across a diversity of Android devices, including the new Asus Zenfone.


What I'm saying is, it's not "Apple's look", the top notch existed long before the iPhone.

There is nothing original about the iPhone X that warrants copying. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
 
2018-03-02 06:43:00 AM  

Cormee: What I'm saying is, it's not "Apple's look", the top notch existed long before the iPhone.


Ummm... Coming out a couple of months earlier is not "long before".

Also, the Essential Phone has a round cutout, not a notch, and was a complete failure. Nobody copies failure.

In addition, ASUS came right out and said they are copying Apple here.
 
2018-03-02 07:04:50 AM  

BullBearMS: Cormee: What I'm saying is, it's not "Apple's look", the top notch existed long before the iPhone.

Ummm... Coming out a couple of months earlier is not "long before".

Also, the Essential Phone has a round cutout, not a notch, and was a complete failure. Nobody copies failure.

In addition, ASUS came right out and said they are copying Apple here.


Oh dear, you resorted to an "Umm".

Sorry, I didn't mean to upset you :D
 
2018-03-02 07:13:56 AM  

Cormee: BullBearMS: Cormee: What I'm saying is, it's not "Apple's look", the top notch existed long before the iPhone.

Ummm... Coming out a couple of months earlier is not "long before".

Also, the Essential Phone has a round cutout, not a notch, and was a complete failure. Nobody copies failure.

In addition, ASUS came right out and said they are copying Apple here.

Oh dear, you resorted to an "Umm".

Sorry, I didn't mean to upset you :D


Ummm, as in how dumb are you going to be?

It's hysterical to watch Android fanboys try to claim Apple's notch is an Android thing now that Google and the various device makers are stampeding to copy it.
 
2018-03-02 07:27:35 AM  

BullBearMS: Cormee: BullBearMS: Cormee: What I'm saying is, it's not "Apple's look", the top notch existed long before the iPhone.

Ummm... Coming out a couple of months earlier is not "long before".

Also, the Essential Phone has a round cutout, not a notch, and was a complete failure. Nobody copies failure.

In addition, ASUS came right out and said they are copying Apple here.

Oh dear, you resorted to an "Umm".

Sorry, I didn't mean to upset you :D

Ummm, as in how dumb are you going to be?

It's hysterical to watch Android fanboys try to claim Apple's notch is an Android thing now that Google and the various device makers are stampeding to copy it.


We'll leave it there, will we!
:D
 
2018-03-02 08:02:54 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: I think it looks great. I'll probably buy one, but my current iPhone would have to stop working first.


Give them time, they'll make it happen.
 
2018-03-02 09:26:43 AM  

thrasherrr: natazha: Uncle Eazy: get a bigger battery

Every survey I've seen, this is #1, but phone engineers are obsessed with thinner.  You'd think they were fashion designers!

There is a reason for that.  It turns out that if you give 10 to 500 random consumers $100 of monopoly singles to spend on a big board with 25 different device improvements, a full third of the money ends up in 'Thinner' every time.  Thinner edges out battery life by a few percent as being the thing on which people will spend the most incremental dollars.

/I think thinner can go hang, but I will never buy a $600 phone so my opinion matters not in the least.
//I have seen the actual demo of the flexible copier paper sized writable OLED screen at least ten times now
///I am all on board with bigger. Five inch screens are glasses removal territory.


And 75% of the people who tested the sony walkman said they preferred yellow, but almost nobody in the focus group took a yellow one home.  They all took home black.  The yellow ones went only after they ran out of black.
 
2018-03-02 09:51:30 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: JohnBigBootay: For me, 3" x 5.5 inches is about perfect.

call me
ಠ‿↼


username checks out.
 
2018-03-02 10:15:18 AM  

Goimir: thrasherrr: natazha: Uncle Eazy: get a bigger battery

Every survey I've seen, this is #1, but phone engineers are obsessed with thinner.  You'd think they were fashion designers!

There is a reason for that.  It turns out that if you give 10 to 500 random consumers $100 of monopoly singles to spend on a big board with 25 different device improvements, a full third of the money ends up in 'Thinner' every time.  Thinner edges out battery life by a few percent as being the thing on which people will spend the most incremental dollars.

/I think thinner can go hang, but I will never buy a $600 phone so my opinion matters not in the least.
//I have seen the actual demo of the flexible copier paper sized writable OLED screen at least ten times now
///I am all on board with bigger. Five inch screens are glasses removal territory.

And 75% of the people who tested the sony walkman said they preferred yellow, but almost nobody in the focus group took a yellow one home.  They all took home black.  The yellow ones went only after they ran out of black.


No doubt.  MBAs make investment decisions using the data they have.  Garbage in leads to garbage out.

/The thinner experiment does seem to reflect phone and laptop sales reality.
//For the record, the dozens of color studies I have read over the last fifteen years indicate that it is seldom worth investing in any electronic device that's not black, red, or silver, with white as a distant fourth.
///YMMV on color will vary if your audience is composed of pre-teen girls or MMO players, who invariably choose pink or purple
 
2018-03-02 10:48:24 AM  

thrasherrr: Goimir: thrasherrr: natazha: Uncle Eazy: get a bigger battery

Every survey I've seen, this is #1, but phone engineers are obsessed with thinner.  You'd think they were fashion designers!

There is a reason for that.  It turns out that if you give 10 to 500 random consumers $100 of monopoly singles to spend on a big board with 25 different device improvements, a full third of the money ends up in 'Thinner' every time.  Thinner edges out battery life by a few percent as being the thing on which people will spend the most incremental dollars.

/I think thinner can go hang, but I will never buy a $600 phone so my opinion matters not in the least.
//I have seen the actual demo of the flexible copier paper sized writable OLED screen at least ten times now
///I am all on board with bigger. Five inch screens are glasses removal territory.

And 75% of the people who tested the sony walkman said they preferred yellow, but almost nobody in the focus group took a yellow one home.  They all took home black.  The yellow ones went only after they ran out of black.

No doubt.  MBAs make investment decisions using the data they have.  Garbage in leads to garbage out.

/The thinner experiment does seem to reflect phone and laptop sales reality.
//For the record, the dozens of color studies I have read over the last fifteen years indicate that it is seldom worth investing in any electronic device that's not black, red, or silver, with white as a distant fourth.
///YMMV on color will vary if your audience is composed of pre-teen girls or MMO players, who invariably choose pink or purple


You can see a phone is thinner.   But battery stats are all marketing lies.  And if they aren't all, enough are that nobody believes them.
 
2018-03-03 04:17:31 AM  
Thing is, these phones still need to fit in pockets. Unless men start carrying phone bags or clipping them to their waistbands (not a good look), the phone's size is going to be limited. Maybe clothing designers will wise up to the embiggening of modern phones and start modifying their designs to accommodate. Add a little extra space to the fit and put in a phone pocket...

Maybe Apple will introduce the new Apple iPants when the Xplus comes out! Only $299!
 
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