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(AL.com)   A Texas governor granted clemency to a death row inmate. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going outside to see if I can spot some pigs flying   ( al.com) divider line
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2018-02-23 12:04:47 AM  
White?

White.
 
2018-02-23 04:47:28 AM  

felching pen: White?

White.


Done?

In one.
 
2018-02-23 05:19:38 AM  
Great. Now I have to donate a million dollars to the local orphanage.
 
2018-02-23 05:55:28 AM  
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2018-02-23 06:00:00 AM  
It's not a pardon,  his sentence was commuted to life without parole. It was at the request of his father, who was one of his victims.
 
2018-02-23 06:02:22 AM  
He wasn't the shooter, just the orchestrator. He doesn't warrant anything harsher than the actual gunman.
 
2018-02-23 06:03:19 AM  

Catlenfell: It's not a pardon,  his sentence was commuted to life without parole. It was at the request of his father, who was one of his victims.


He killed his own father? And then his dad continued to advocate for him from beyond the grave?  Twisted.
 
2018-02-23 06:06:58 AM  
Think Tejas goes blue?
 
2018-02-23 06:08:58 AM  

Just another Heartland Weirdass: Catlenfell: It's not a pardon,  his sentence was commuted to life without parole. It was at the request of his father, who was one of his victims.

He killed his own father? And then his dad continued to advocate for him from beyond the grave?  Twisted.


His Father survived the attack
 
2018-02-23 06:24:34 AM  

wildcardjack: He wasn't the shooter, just the orchestrator. He doesn't warrant anything harsher than the actual gunman.


Not sure I follow that logic.  Also, since this is Texas, why isn't the actual gunman being executed as well?
 
2018-02-23 06:24:53 AM  
It's good to be white.
 
2018-02-23 06:26:12 AM  

flondrix: wildcardjack: He wasn't the shooter, just the orchestrator. He doesn't warrant anything harsher than the actual gunman.

Not sure I follow that logic.  Also, since this is Texas, why isn't the actual gunman being executed as well?


You want to execute a man for simply exercising his Jesus-given Second Amendment rights in the great state of Texas?
 
2018-02-23 06:28:19 AM  

mrparks: Think Tejas goes blue?


I wish. The major cities have some common sense, everybody else is "stigginit."
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2018-02-23 06:32:05 AM  
They just postponed it so they can kill him by dropping him off through the roof of JerryWorld to kick off the NFL draft.
 
2018-02-23 06:42:46 AM  

Catlenfell: It's not a pardon,  his sentence was commuted to life without parole. It was at the request of his father, who was one of his victims.


Yep. Instead of being killed he has to live out the rest of his natural life in prison thinking about what he did and knowing that he will never see the outside again.
I think this is his father's revenge
 
2018-02-23 06:52:29 AM  
So mentally deficient = death
Probably innocent = death

Guilty guy who did the crime ? = you get to live
 
2018-02-23 07:01:16 AM  
I'm glad for the father.

/rtfa
 
2018-02-23 07:11:23 AM  
He was white, andabecause dadsdaargument was Jesus. Nothing legal. Just jesus. Abbot loves that shiat.
 
2018-02-23 07:29:04 AM  

Richard Saunders: I'm glad for the father.

/rtfa


I am not so glad for the father. He is one of those idiots that make everything about themselves.

FTFA: "As the greatest victim in this case, you don't have to convince me how awful this crime was," Kent Whitaker said.

No, Kent you were not the "greatest victim," your dead wife and and dead son were the greatest victims. You are still alive.
 
2018-02-23 07:31:43 AM  

mrparks: Think Tejas goes blue?


It could, but it would require a) hispanics to vote,  and b) to vote as a block against Republicans, neither of which is likely.
 
2018-02-23 07:36:49 AM  

Just another Heartland Weirdass: Catlenfell: It's not a pardon,  his sentence was commuted to life without parole. It was at the request of his father, who was one of his victims.

He killed his own father? And then his dad continued to advocate for him from beyond the grave?  Twisted.


Try reading the story.
 
2018-02-23 07:53:53 AM  

ongbok: Catlenfell: It's not a pardon,  his sentence was commuted to life without parole. It was at the request of his father, who was one of his victims.

Yep. Instead of being killed he has to live out the rest of his natural life in prison thinking about what he did and knowing that he will never see the outside again.
I think this is his father's revenge


His father just didn't want the only living part of his family to be killed.
I can fully understand him. The love for a child, and how much forgiveness you can find for them, is vast.
 
2018-02-23 07:56:58 AM  
We sure do go to a lot of trouble to keep America in the company of the PRC, PRNK, and South Africa.
Gettin' yer money's worth, Cletus?
Oh. I'm sure you are.
F**king subhumans.
 
2018-02-23 08:05:56 AM  
There is any episode of Forensic Files about this case. On Netflix it's in collection 1, episode 26. "Family Interrupted", if anyone is interested.
 
2018-02-23 08:35:29 AM  

Just another Heartland Weirdass: Catlenfell: It's not a pardon,  his sentence was commuted to life without parole. It was at the request of his father, who was one of his victims.

He killed his own father? And then his dad continued to advocate for him from beyond the grave?  Twisted.


His father is Jesus. He died and got better.
 
2018-02-23 08:40:35 AM  

flondrix: wildcardjack: He wasn't the shooter, just the orchestrator. He doesn't warrant anything harsher than the actual gunman.

Not sure I follow that logic.  Also, since this is Texas, why isn't the actual gunman being executed as well?


Because in USA, you can get your sentence changed by making plea deals.
 
2018-02-23 08:50:27 AM  

Mirandized: Richard Saunders: I'm glad for the father.

/rtfa

I am not so glad for the father. He is one of those idiots that make everything about themselves.

FTFA: "As the greatest victim in this case, you don't have to convince me how awful this crime was," Kent Whitaker said.

No, Kent you were not the "greatest victim," your dead wife and and dead son were the greatest victims. You are still alive.


Out of curiosity, who do you think has had the tougher time since?
 
2018-02-23 09:09:29 AM  

Natalie Portmanteau: Mirandized: Richard Saunders: I'm glad for the father.

/rtfa

I am not so glad for the father. He is one of those idiots that make everything about themselves.

FTFA: "As the greatest victim in this case, you don't have to convince me how awful this crime was," Kent Whitaker said.

No, Kent you were not the "greatest victim," your dead wife and and dead son were the greatest victims. You are still alive.

Out of curiosity, who do you think has had the tougher time since?


Out of the son and father left, I think the son has had the tougher time. He has the guilt of killing his mother and brother and trying to kill his father, and the sense of failure for not accomplishing  his purpose, among other failures. He may have also finally come to a sense of loss akin to that of his father.
But all of this is speculation.
 
2018-02-23 09:12:37 AM  

Mirandized: Natalie Portmanteau: Mirandized: Richard Saunders: I'm glad for the father.

/rtfa

I am not so glad for the father. He is one of those idiots that make everything about themselves.

FTFA: "As the greatest victim in this case, you don't have to convince me how awful this crime was," Kent Whitaker said.

No, Kent you were not the "greatest victim," your dead wife and and dead son were the greatest victims. You are still alive.

Out of curiosity, who do you think has had the tougher time since?

Out of the son and father left, I think the son has had the tougher time. He has the guilt of killing his mother and brother and trying to kill his father, and the sense of failure for not accomplishing  his purpose, among other failures. He may have also finally come to a sense of loss akin to that of his father.
But all of this is speculation.


Fair point. I meant of the wife, daughter, and dad though.
 
2018-02-23 09:14:10 AM  
Hypothesis ... Google Image Search ...

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... Confirmed.
 
2018-02-23 09:37:48 AM  

bigfatbuddhist: felching pen: White?

White.

Done?

In one.


Don't forget the jeezus.  The jeezus was an important factor.
 
2018-02-23 09:45:57 AM  

flondrix: wildcardjack: He wasn't the shooter, just the orchestrator. He doesn't warrant anything harsher than the actual gunman.

Not sure I follow that logic.  Also, since this is Texas, why isn't the actual gunman being executed as well?


Not sure. We have minimum sentencing for the tiniest of crimes leading to a bullshiat high conviction rate. On the other hand, judges often give out some of the stupidest sentences ever.

That said,  I'll take a judge's discretion over minimum sentencing all day long.
 
2018-02-23 09:46:03 AM  

bigfatbuddhist: felching pen: White?
White.
Done?
In one.


Even with the white Jesusy appeals needed to make it happen, this is Texas and pigs are still flying.

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What flying pigs might look like...
 
2018-02-23 09:58:58 AM  

HumanSVD: flondrix: wildcardjack: He wasn't the shooter, just the orchestrator. He doesn't warrant anything harsher than the actual gunman.

Not sure I follow that logic.  Also, since this is Texas, why isn't the actual gunman being executed as well?

Not sure. We have minimum sentencing for the tiniest of crimes leading to a bullshiat high conviction rate. On the other hand, judges often give out some of the stupidest sentences ever.

That said,  I'll take a judge's discretion over minimum sentencing all day long.


If the hired gunmen plead guilty, they cannot be sentenced to death. Only a full trial by jury situation can keep capital punishment on the table.
I don't know if this is what happened in this particular crime, though.
 
2018-02-23 11:16:10 AM  

TravelingFreakshow: mrparks: Think Tejas goes blue?

I wish. The major cities have some common sense, everybody else is "stigginit."
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Well the major cities are the one all the industry moves into and brings voters from blue states for the most part. Although I have lived in Houston since 1966 and it's always been blue.
 
2018-02-23 11:22:50 AM  

Tatertoot: HumanSVD: flondrix: wildcardjack: He wasn't the shooter, just the orchestrator. He doesn't warrant anything harsher than the actual gunman.

Not sure I follow that logic.  Also, since this is Texas, why isn't the actual gunman being executed as well?

Not sure. We have minimum sentencing for the tiniest of crimes leading to a bullshiat high conviction rate. On the other hand, judges often give out some of the stupidest sentences ever.

That said,  I'll take a judge's discretion over minimum sentencing all day long.

If the hired gunmen plead guilty, they cannot be sentenced to death. Only a full trial by jury situation can keep capital punishment on the table.
I don't know if this is what happened in this particular crime, though.


That's not how it works.  When they plea guilty, they're pleading to a lesser charge as part of a deal to get him to testify against the guy who hired him.  If their lawyer didn't broker a deal before pleading guilty to the state's charges, death is still on the table.  Nobody pleads guilty while death is on the table.  If the DA won't take death off the table, they always go to trial.  A defense attorney should be disbarred if they let their client plead guilty while still facing a death sentence.
 
2018-02-23 12:20:23 PM  

wildcardjack: He wasn't the shooter, just the orchestrator. He doesn't warrant anything harsher than the actual gunman.


Why not? Should a war crmminal general that never personally killed anyone get off easier than his underlings? It's just a step closer to sharia law where blood money can be paid to buy a lighter sentance.
 
2018-02-23 12:44:56 PM  

TravelingFreakshow: mrparks: Think Tejas goes blue?

I wish. The major cities have some common sense, everybody else is "stigginit."
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The people those blue districts elect are some farking idiots.  I've lived in 2 of them.
 
2018-02-23 12:45:13 PM  

lack of warmth: Tatertoot: HumanSVD: flondrix: wildcardjack: He wasn't the shooter, just the orchestrator. He doesn't warrant anything harsher than the actual gunman.

Not sure I follow that logic.  Also, since this is Texas, why isn't the actual gunman being executed as well?

Not sure. We have minimum sentencing for the tiniest of crimes leading to a bullshiat high conviction rate. On the other hand, judges often give out some of the stupidest sentences ever.

That said,  I'll take a judge's discretion over minimum sentencing all day long.

If the hired gunmen plead guilty, they cannot be sentenced to death. Only a full trial by jury situation can keep capital punishment on the table.
I don't know if this is what happened in this particular crime, though.

That's not how it works.  When they plea guilty, they're pleading to a lesser charge as part of a deal to get him to testify against the guy who hired him.  If their lawyer didn't broker a deal before pleading guilty to the state's charges, death is still on the table.  Nobody pleads guilty while death is on the table.  If the DA won't take death off the table, they always go to trial.  A defense attorney should be disbarred if they let their client plead guilty while still facing a death sentence.


A plea of "not guilty" is mandatory to be eligible for a death sentence in Texas.
A "guilty" plea for the crime of capital murder takes death penalty off the table, and gets you life without parole.

Unless your lawyer got you a better deal from the DA beforehand. And I agree, only a shiatty lawyer would not have (at least attempted) to do so.
 
OOF
2018-02-23 12:50:10 PM  
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Kiz
2018-02-23 04:42:02 PM  
Note that the Governor of Texas doesn't actually have the power to pardon anyway. He can commute a sentence, but only if it's suggested by a board.

Quite possibly the weakest governor position in the US- the Texas Lieutenant Governor arguably has more power.
 
2018-02-23 10:11:30 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: They just postponed it so they can kill him by dropping him off through the roof of JerryWorld to kick off the NFL draft.


Funny.  You actually consider Dallas part of Texas?  Everyone outside of the Metroplex considers them just a part of Oklahoma.
 
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