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2018-02-22 02:30:20 PM  
Good on them.

Stay with it.

Though I wouldn't call them "kids"...they are acting more adult than most everyone in DC.

I am a gun-owner, long-time shooter, competitions, etc.

For me, it all changed with Sandy Hook.  I haven't fired a shot since that day, and am slowly draining off my collection, and would like to get down to 4 or 5.    (antique winchesters, if anybody's interested)   Though I have never owned an ar-15 or its ilk, I have shot many of them.  They need to go away.  Permanently.
 
2018-02-22 02:38:57 PM  

stir22: Good on them.

Stay with it.

Though I wouldn't call them "kids"...they are acting more adult than most everyone in DC.

I am a gun-owner, long-time shooter, competitions, etc.

For me, it all changed with Sandy Hook.  I haven't fired a shot since that day, and am slowly draining off my collection, and would like to get down to 4 or 5.    (antique winchesters, if anybody's interested)   Though I have never owned an ar-15 or its ilk, I have shot many of them.  They need to go away.  Permanently.


Same here, I am down to a .22 Henry replica that my late father in law wanted to spend quality time with the grandkids and some paper targets and milk jugs. I used the AR platform on the job and I am done.
 
2018-02-22 02:40:35 PM  
They'll need more than one.
 
2018-02-22 02:41:43 PM  
Someone keep an eye on Ted Nugent. The kid has a target on his back.
 
2018-02-22 02:41:58 PM  

rummonkey: stir22: Good on them.

Stay with it.

Though I wouldn't call them "kids"...they are acting more adult than most everyone in DC.

I am a gun-owner, long-time shooter, competitions, etc.

For me, it all changed with Sandy Hook.  I haven't fired a shot since that day, and am slowly draining off my collection, and would like to get down to 4 or 5.    (antique winchesters, if anybody's interested)   Though I have never owned an ar-15 or its ilk, I have shot many of them.  They need to go away.  Permanently.

Same here, I am down to a .22 Henry replica that my late father in law wanted to spend quality time with the grandkids and some paper targets and milk jugs. I used the AR platform on the job and I am done.


I love the Henry .22!!!!  I've still got a couple of them.

If you don't mind me asking, how did you go about selling them?  I could sell them locally, but I'd take a bath.  My winchester collection is a complete model 88 .308 collection, all calibers and pre-post '64.  I've thought about gunsamerica.com, but can't get motivated to do it.
 
2018-02-22 02:42:57 PM  
rummonkey:

I too, have fired an AR but, never owned one.  There is no reason for these to exist.  Banning Assault weapons in no way hinders gun ownership as intended by the 2nd amendment.
 
2018-02-22 02:43:36 PM  

Pointy Tail of Satan: Someone keep an eye on Ted Nugent. The kid has a target on his back.


I thought he was dead or in jail...
 
2018-02-22 02:44:08 PM  
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Mitch McConnell isn't that expensive
 
2018-02-22 02:44:50 PM  
FTFA: organzing

Spelling error when you're asking for money? Pfft.

/focusing my attention on the important things.
 
2018-02-22 02:46:18 PM  
I don't know, a Congressman is a big responsibility: You have to feed it, take it for walks, and of course, you have to spay it.

That being said, they've proven more mature than most politicians, and almost all of the MAGAts.
 
2018-02-22 02:46:52 PM  
aw man.  I wanna congressperson, too.  I'd buy them cute little outfits and name them "George."  Take 'em on walks so they can do their "legislative dooty."
 
2018-02-22 02:47:49 PM  

CygnusDarius: I don't know, a Congressman is a big responsibility: You have to feed it, take it for walks, and of course, you have to spay it.

That being said, they've proven more mature than most politicians, and almost all of the MAGAts.


You recommending they start with something small, like a plant?

Maybe potato?
 
2018-02-22 02:48:19 PM  

CygnusDarius: I don't know, a Congressman is a big responsibility: You have to feed it, take it for walks, and of course, you have to spay it.

That being said, they've proven more mature than most politicians, and almost all of the MAGAts.


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2018-02-22 02:49:40 PM  

Bowen: CygnusDarius: I don't know, a Congressman is a big responsibility: You have to feed it, take it for walks, and of course, you have to spay it.

That being said, they've proven more mature than most politicians, and almost all of the MAGAts.

You recommending they start with something small, like a plant?

Maybe potato?


Who was the politician that couldn't spell potato?.
 
2018-02-22 02:50:57 PM  
Quale
 
2018-02-22 02:51:23 PM  

stir22: Good on them.

Stay with it.

Though I wouldn't call them "kids"...they are acting more adult than most everyone in DC.

I am a gun-owner, long-time shooter, competitions, etc.

For me, it all changed with Sandy Hook.  I haven't fired a shot since that day, and am slowly draining off my collection, and would like to get down to 4 or 5.    (antique winchesters, if anybody's interested)   Though I have never owned an ar-15 or its ilk, I have shot many of them.  They need to go away.  Permanently.


Yeah, sold my AR after Sandy Hook.  Made a tidy profit to boot.
 
2018-02-22 02:51:36 PM  

xanadian: aw man.  I wanna congressperson, too.  I'd buy them cute little outfits and name them "George."  Take 'em on walks so they can do their "legislative dooty."


Oh, sure, it always starts all:

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I should buy a congressperson.

But then

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2018-02-22 02:52:37 PM  

CygnusDarius: Bowen: CygnusDarius: I don't know, a Congressman is a big responsibility: You have to feed it, take it for walks, and of course, you have to spay it.

That being said, they've proven more mature than most politicians, and almost all of the MAGAts.

You recommending they start with something small, like a plant?

Maybe potato?

Who was the politician that couldn't spell potato?.


Dan Quay
Qyal

George HW Bush's VP
 
2018-02-22 02:53:15 PM  
$100 just now.  Please match my donation.  I am so glad that the NRA is frightened.
 
2018-02-22 02:55:41 PM  

stir22: Good on them.

Stay with it.

Though I wouldn't call them "kids"...they are acting more adult than most everyone in DC.

I am a gun-owner, long-time shooter, competitions, etc.

For me, it all changed with Sandy Hook.  I haven't fired a shot since that day, and am slowly draining off my collection, and would like to get down to 4 or 5.    (antique winchesters, if anybody's interested)   Though I have never owned an ar-15 or its ilk, I have shot many of them.  They need to go away.  Permanently.


Not that I've ever had a significant collection butI'm down to Grandad's M1 and 1911.  I keep going back and forth about making them inoperable.
 
2018-02-22 02:55:51 PM  
I'm in roughly the same boat as rummonkey and stir22.
I enjoy guns, I enjoy shooting and hunting, but something has to change.
Never shot an AR or anything of the like and don't have the desire to.
After this last one shooting, I even started looking at my new Ruger Gunsite Scout with a bit of a side eye because it's got a detachable magazine.
I am honestly starting to think that the way to go would be to ban everything with a detachable magazine, including pistols, for any caliber over .22.
 
2018-02-22 02:56:20 PM  
Kids?  In Tallahassee yesterday, the High School students were acting like adults and the GOP legislators were acting like High School students, hiding out and using the chamber to keep away from the "kids"
 
2018-02-22 02:57:17 PM  

Bowen: CygnusDarius: Bowen: CygnusDarius: I don't know, a Congressman is a big responsibility: You have to feed it, take it for walks, and of course, you have to spay it.

That being said, they've proven more mature than most politicians, and almost all of the MAGAts.

You recommending they start with something small, like a plant?

Maybe potato?

Who was the politician that couldn't spell potato?.

Dan Quay
Qyal

George HW Bush's VP


Ah, an Indiana educashun.

/Hoosier
//Kentucky is where 'education pays'..  used to laugh my ass off every time I crossed the river
 
2018-02-22 02:57:29 PM  

Huggermugger: $100 just now.  Please match my donation.  I am so glad that the NRA is frightened.


These kids grew up on Katniss and Potter, as someone pointed out.

Wayne LaPierre is easy pickings.
 
2018-02-22 02:58:58 PM  

Huggermugger: $100 just now.  Please match my donation.  I am so glad that the NRA is frightened.


The little half-dead smart ass the NRA had at the townhall last night convinced me how far on the wrong side the GOP and the NRA are.

Patronizing to parents, siblings and friends who just had a loved one shot to death while at school? It's the NRA's duty.
 
2018-02-22 02:59:30 PM  
Just put in $10.

/tight money month for me
 
2018-02-22 03:02:03 PM  
Do the GOP even realize that these kids will be voting SOON?
 
2018-02-22 03:03:31 PM  

LowbrowDeluxe: xanadian: aw man.  I wanna congressperson, too.  I'd buy them cute little outfits and name them "George."  Take 'em on walks so they can do their "legislative dooty."

Oh, sure, it always starts all:

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I should buy a congressperson.

But then

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That monkey never fails to make me laugh. Never.
 
2018-02-22 03:03:40 PM  

Huggermugger: $100 just now.  Please match my donation.  I am so glad that the NRA is frightened.


You think they're frightened?  lol
 
2018-02-22 03:06:34 PM  

NotThatGuyAgain: Huggermugger: $100 just now.  Please match my donation.  I am so glad that the NRA is frightened.

You think they're frightened?  lol


You think they're not?

Yippie ki yay back atcha.
 
2018-02-22 03:07:06 PM  

germ78: Just put in $10.

/tight money month for me


Threw in my own $20 and a comment of encouragement to the kids who are standing up to this insanity that's gripped out nation for far too long.
 
2018-02-22 03:08:20 PM  

Pointy Tail of Satan: Someone keep an eye on Ted Nugent. The kid has a target on his back.


The pedophile and pants-shiatting coward is already calling them "crisis actors" . Next time he shoots his mouth off he should put a shotgun barrel in it first.
 
2018-02-22 03:08:47 PM  
I had to explain to my wife that when I was in the army, we had the M-16 and how it was designed to spin the bullet so when it hit flesh, it would rotate from where it went in and then come out somewhere else. So for example if you aimed for the stomach, it would come out the shoulder.

Yeah, those things are designed for one thing only.

Keep them (ARs) off the streets, use regular weapons for target practice (sports) and hunting.

its going to take a lot more money for those students to bribe the NRA. They won't go away cheaply.
 
2018-02-22 03:09:00 PM  
This whole thing is insurmountably depressing.

More tequila. Stat!
 
2018-02-22 03:12:17 PM  

CygnusDarius: I don't know, a Congressman is a big responsibility: You have to feed it, take it for walks, and of course, you have to spay it.


I see you give the males a pass. That's sexist.
 
2018-02-22 03:12:55 PM  

AWalleigh: I am honestly starting to think that the way to go would be to ban everything with a detachable magazine, including pistols, for any caliber over .22.


There's already a work-around for that:  https://youtu.be/h69CU84eDl4
 
2018-02-22 03:13:07 PM  
Well, if you thought a politically-expedient war was looming before...well, let's say the NRA may be able to open a second front on Trump's "Hey, enough Russia, Russia, Russia! There's some poor country right over there with lots of natural resources and cheap labor that needs democracy!!1!" war.
 
2018-02-22 03:13:48 PM  
In for $28.75 and it let me leave an expletive-filled mini-rant about Rubio, which was worth the price!  :D
 
2018-02-22 03:14:12 PM  
Been getting rid of guns for some time now. Down to one lever action .30-30, a revolver, a 1911, two shotguns, and a Colt Mustang we teach new shooters with.
 
2018-02-22 03:16:44 PM  
Holy hell, it's on a Saturday!  I thought that the purpose of these things was to get out of going to class.
 
2018-02-22 03:18:28 PM  

jbuist: AWalleigh: I am honestly starting to think that the way to go would be to ban everything with a detachable magazine, including pistols, for any caliber over .22.

There's already a work-around for that:  https://youtu.be/h69CU84eDl4


Well crap. That makes my idea less effective.
Do they have devices like that for internal tube magazines?
 
2018-02-22 03:20:04 PM  
How about "no recoil- or gas-operated firearms"?
 
2018-02-22 03:23:07 PM  
I would like to buy a politician but I don't have a lot of money. Can I get one on the layaway plan?
 
2018-02-22 03:23:33 PM  
It's not even an actual non profit.  My guess someone is using the kid to get rich.

steklo: I had to explain to my wife that when I was in the army, we had the M-16 and how it was designed to spin the bullet so when it hit flesh, it would rotate from where it went in and then come out somewhere else. So for example if you aimed for the stomach, it would come out the shoulder.

Yeah, those things are designed for one thing only.

Keep them (ARs) off the streets, use regular weapons for target practice (sports) and hunting.

its going to take a lot more money for those students to bribe the NRA. They won't go away cheaply.


All bullets spin. It's what makes them go mostly in a straight line.  What make's them do crazy physics is that the copper coating is thin. The bullet smashes and deforms on impact making the copper coating fall apart and go flying in all different directions. Then the small and no longer bullet shaped bullet tumbles around in whatever direction it feels like because it's not a solid uniformly shaped mass anymore.
 
2018-02-22 03:25:42 PM  

steklo: I had to explain to my wife that when I was in the army, we had the M-16 and how it was designed to spin the bullet so when it hit flesh, it would rotate from where it went in and then come out somewhere else. So for example if you aimed for the stomach, it would come out the shoulder.

Yeah, those things are designed for one thing only.


This will be slightly long so the TL;DR is: That's not unique to the AR platform, it was taken from a civilian varminting setup, and the platform no longer works like that, or at least not as well.

The original AR-15/M-16 setup was using 55 grain ammunition (which is fairly light) and either a 1 in 12 or 1 in 11 twist. I forget which.  As the platform matured and NATO got their say in it the bullets got heavier and we're now up to 77 grain bullets that require a 1 in 7 or 1 in 9 twist. I believe most AR civilian guns are 1 in 7 like the military counterparts.  So, the bullet spins faster and it's more stable when it hits flesh.  It results in less lethal wounds but the heavier bullets hold momentum longer and can penetrate steel helmets out to 400 meters due to the weight and steel core.

If you try and run the "original" 55 grainers through a 1 in 7 twist the bullet won't stabilize (spinning too fast) and keyholes.

And there was nothing unique about the AR doing that with 55 grain bullets.  The .223/5.56 round is just a slightly modified version of the older civilian .222.  Performance of the original 5.56 with 55 grain bullets was the same as .222 but the 5.56 could archive the same velocity out of a 20" barrel where the .222 needed 24".
 
2018-02-22 03:26:38 PM  
I'm in. You keep goin' on with your bad selves, kids.
 
2018-02-22 03:27:42 PM  
I'm glad these kids stopped eating Tide Pods
 
2018-02-22 03:28:01 PM  

AWalleigh: Do they have devices like that for internal tube magazines?


For shotguns they do.  They're used frequently in three gun competitions.  It's incredible how fast they can top off a shotgun.

I've never seen anything for tube fed rifles but if we ban detachable box mags for rifles one will hit the market 28 seconds later.
 
2018-02-22 03:29:33 PM  

jbuist: AWalleigh: I am honestly starting to think that the way to go would be to ban everything with a detachable magazine, including pistols, for any caliber over .22.

There's already a work-around for that:  https://youtu.be/h69CU84eDl4


With 3d printing there is a work around for pretty much everything.  Guns are a gene that can't really be put back in the bottle.  Just look at all the improvised weapons used from the French in WWII to ISIS now.   3d printing makes it easier and takes a lot of the trial and error out.
 
2018-02-22 03:30:09 PM  

stir22: Good on them.

Stay with it.

Though I wouldn't call them "kids"...they are acting more adult than most everyone in DC.

I am a gun-owner, long-time shooter, competitions, etc.

For me, it all changed with Sandy Hook.  I haven't fired a shot since that day, and am slowly draining off my collection, and would like to get down to 4 or 5.    (antique winchesters, if anybody's interested)   Though I have never owned an ar-15 or its ilk, I have shot many of them.  They need to go away.  Permanently.


Also a gun owner, lifelong Hunter here.

I've been telling the conservative idiots where I live that they need to compromise or face an outright ban.

I owned an AR about 10 years ago now.  Got rid of it because I couldn't find a purpose for it.  Wasn't powerful enough to hunt with, wasn't accurate enough to target shoot with (not as accurate as I'd like), etc.

There was nothing it could do that another dedicated firearm I already owned couldn't do better.

It's a weapon designed from it's conception to do just one thing: kill humans.  There's no reason for them to be in the hands of anyone not currently serving in the military.
 
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