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2018-02-17 08:57:34 PM  
The whole cast was really solid.  I don't think there was a weak actor in the film.

My only real complaint is that Marvel needs to stop killing its villains.  Killmonger was solid and could have been nice to have around a bit, and Andy Serkis seemed to be having a farking blast in the role.  I would have loved to see him pop up as a recurring B-tier villain here and there.
 
2018-02-17 09:36:55 PM  

NeoCortex42: The whole cast was really solid.  I don't think there was a weak actor in the film.

My only real complaint is that Marvel needs to stop killing its villains.  Killmonger was solid and could have been nice to have around a bit, and Andy Serkis seemed to be having a farking blast in the role.  I would have loved to see him pop up as a recurring B-tier villain here and there.


Maybe Thanos will resurrect everyone?
 
2018-02-17 09:39:48 PM  
I saw this movie last night and it was amazing!! It is now in my favorites list. Every actor was awesome. There really wasn't a weak character.
 
2018-02-17 09:39:51 PM  

NeoCortex42: Killmonger was solid and could have been nice to have around a bit


Killmonger? Who came up with that name, George Lucas?
 
2018-02-17 09:52:05 PM  

Mugato: NeoCortex42: Killmonger was solid and could have been nice to have around a bit

Killmonger? Who came up with that name, George Lucas?


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2018-02-17 10:04:42 PM  

NeoCortex42: The whole cast was really solid.  I don't think there was a weak actor in the film.

My only real complaint is that Marvel needs to stop killing its villains.  Killmonger was solid and could have been nice to have around a bit, and Andy Serkis seemed to be having a farking blast in the role.  I would have loved to see him pop up as a recurring B-tier villain here and there.


No one stays dead except Uncle Ben and Bruce Wayne's parents.
 
2018-02-17 10:11:01 PM  

NeoCortex42: The whole cast was really solid.  I don't think there was a weak actor in the film.

My only real complaint is that Marvel needs to stop killing its villains.  Killmonger was solid and could have been nice to have around a bit, and Andy Serkis seemed to be having a farking blast in the role.  I would have loved to see him pop up as a recurring B-tier villain here and there.


Stick around for the 2nd after credits scene next time you see it. Serkis ain't gone.
 
2018-02-17 10:11:26 PM  

texdent: NeoCortex42: The whole cast was really solid.  I don't think there was a weak actor in the film.

My only real complaint is that Marvel needs to stop killing its villains.  Killmonger was solid and could have been nice to have around a bit, and Andy Serkis seemed to be having a farking blast in the role.  I would have loved to see him pop up as a recurring B-tier villain here and there.

Maybe Thanos will resurrect everyone?


While a stupid trope, if if they use that to bring back the baddies from this movie and recast Red Skull, I'll forgive.

/really nothing else to add that hasn't been said. Everyone killed their character. Top 3 MCU film, easy, but...I'm not gonna sit down and think about it long enough to actually come up with that list.
 
2018-02-17 10:14:15 PM  

vwarb: NeoCortex42: The whole cast was really solid.  I don't think there was a weak actor in the film.

My only real complaint is that Marvel needs to stop killing its villains.  Killmonger was solid and could have been nice to have around a bit, and Andy Serkis seemed to be having a farking blast in the role.  I would have loved to see him pop up as a recurring B-tier villain here and there.

Stick around for the 2nd after credits scene next time you see it. Serkis ain't gone.


I watched the second extra scene but didn't notice Serkis anywhere.  He seemed pretty definitively killed in the main movie.  Did I miss something?
 
2018-02-17 10:16:49 PM  

NeoCortex42: vwarb: NeoCortex42: The whole cast was really solid.  I don't think there was a weak actor in the film.

My only real complaint is that Marvel needs to stop killing its villains.  Killmonger was solid and could have been nice to have around a bit, and Andy Serkis seemed to be having a farking blast in the role.  I would have loved to see him pop up as a recurring B-tier villain here and there.

Stick around for the 2nd after credits scene next time you see it. Serkis ain't gone.

I watched the second extra scene but didn't notice Serkis anywhere.  He seemed pretty definitively killed in the main movie.  Did I miss something?


I didn't notice anything about Klaue in the second scene either.
 
2018-02-17 10:18:44 PM  

Severaux: NeoCortex42: vwarb: NeoCortex42: The whole cast was really solid.  I don't think there was a weak actor in the film.

My only real complaint is that Marvel needs to stop killing its villains.  Killmonger was solid and could have been nice to have around a bit, and Andy Serkis seemed to be having a farking blast in the role.  I would have loved to see him pop up as a recurring B-tier villain here and there.

Stick around for the 2nd after credits scene next time you see it. Serkis ain't gone.

I watched the second extra scene but didn't notice Serkis anywhere.  He seemed pretty definitively killed in the main movie.  Did I miss something?

I didn't notice anything about Klaue in the second scene either.


Me neither. Perhaps there's some confusion here.
 
2018-02-17 10:18:55 PM  
I'll say this for anyone reading.

This is a film that was made for the theater experience.  I'm not talking about theater equipment.  I'm talking about the experience of being there with your fellow humans who cheer, gasp, and laugh at the right moments.  I'm as jaded as they come, but seeing this movie with a super-engaged audience just made the entire event so much more incredible.

Also, Killmonger is legit terrifying AF.  Reminds me *slightly* of Heath Ledger's Joker.
 
2018-02-17 10:22:17 PM  

Mugato: NeoCortex42: Killmonger was solid and could have been nice to have around a bit

Killmonger? Who came up with that name, George Lucas?


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What makes you think I'd use a name that could confuse the audience?
 
2018-02-17 10:23:55 PM  
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2018-02-17 10:25:02 PM  

NeoCortex42: The whole cast was really solid.  I don't think there was a weak actor in the film.


I was expecting to be disappointed, given that the reviews were waaaay too giddy for my taste ever since having been burned by listening to critics who spooged all over themselves at an okay fantasy movie set inside a Yes album cover.

CTFD, it's not the gotdam Godfather but it's damn solid, and dialing back the usual Marvel blowing-shiat-up-real-good factor was excellent addition by subtraction.
 
2018-02-17 10:27:04 PM  
Having the actor's son play young T'Chaka worked so well.  I'm so used to Marvel's de-aging cgi now that I didn't even realize it was a different actor.
 
2018-02-17 10:32:05 PM  
The sorority of Hollywood women needs a few more black and/or strong female actors. And more strong females in general.
 
2018-02-17 10:47:01 PM  

contrapunctus: I'll say this for anyone reading.

This is a film that was made for the theater experience.  I'm not talking about theater equipment.  I'm talking about the experience of being there with your fellow humans who cheer, gasp, and laugh at the right moments.  I'm as jaded as they come, but seeing this movie with a super-engaged audience just made the entire event so much more incredible.

Also, Killmonger is legit terrifying AF.  Reminds me *slightly* of Heath Ledger's Joker.


Also this, except the last bit.

Killmonger was terrifying, but not in TDK Joker way. He was a serious threat with a justifiable reason to his actions. An awesome baddie, to be sure (even though I know how movies end, there were a couple of times that I hoped he'd pull it off...).

I kinda get your point. He had that same level of "FEAR ME!" as Heath's Joker, but in a different way.

/I need that job I interviewed to call me with a + or my taxes to come in so I can go see that movie again...just damn. So good
 
2018-02-17 10:51:35 PM  

4seasons85!: I saw this movie last night and it was amazing!! It is now in my favorites list. Every actor was awesome. There really wasn't a weak character.


I agree. There were no weak performances. Letitia Wright, Winston Duke, and Andy Serkis stole the show though, as far as I'm concerned.
 
2018-02-17 10:53:33 PM  

Ishkur: NeoCortex42: The whole cast was really solid.  I don't think there was a weak actor in the film.

My only real complaint is that Marvel needs to stop killing its villains.  Killmonger was solid and could have been nice to have around a bit, and Andy Serkis seemed to be having a farking blast in the role.  I would have loved to see him pop up as a recurring B-tier villain here and there.

No one stays dead except Uncle Ben and Bruce Wayne's parents.


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2018-02-17 10:54:08 PM  
I liked it a lot, but I really didn't enjoy the challenge sequences.

T'Challa struggles way too much to beat the monkey guy, and while I didn't hate the direction the movie took after Killmonger became king, I also didn't like that he won that fight so handily.
 
2018-02-17 10:59:29 PM  

NeoCortex42: My only real complaint is that Marvel needs to stop killing its villains.


Why?

That's kinda what they're there for.
 
2018-02-17 11:01:48 PM  

doglover: NeoCortex42: My only real complaint is that Marvel needs to stop killing its villains.

Why?

That's kinda what they're there for.


Loki would disagree.  He's gotten only better from movie to movie. It would be nice for other heroes to have a similar foil hanging around for more than a single movie.
 
2018-02-17 11:03:03 PM  

doglover: NeoCortex42: My only real complaint is that Marvel needs to stop killing its villains.

Why?

That's kinda what they're there for.


Some villains are so well done that you just want to see more of them. It's a shame when they're killed off.
 
2018-02-17 11:09:24 PM  

doglover: NeoCortex42: My only real complaint is that Marvel needs to stop killing its villains.

Why?

That's kinda what they're there for.


Beat. Not killed.

How many times has Spidey beat the Hob/Green Golbin? Ironman and Manderain? Supes and Lex?

So far, Loki has been the only "traditional" comic book villain, in that he gets away to cause hell another day. Considering how strong some of them have been (or, could be built after their first defeat), full kill is just...wasteful.

Angry after losing his throne, determined to make the "colonizers" pay (while using Wakandan tech he had stolen) just because he's pissed Killmonger would make for an awesome first Cap and Winter Soldier team-up movie. Supposing they both live through Inifinty War.
 
2018-02-17 11:17:43 PM  

NeoCortex42: foil


Well there's your problem right there. A good foil can't die or the hero has no one to play off. That foil canbe a villain. Like Joker and Batman. But they, like Loki, usually aren't straight up villains. In most stories, bad guy dies in the end but the foil continues on.

Plus, it's DC that does that "No killing" thing. Marvel has always been about more fallible heroes. And killing is certainly a failing.

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But it's fun.
 
2018-02-17 11:24:58 PM  

CyberKultist: Considering how strong some of them have been (or, could be built after their first defeat), full kill is just...wasteful


DC does that. Here's Supes explaining.

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They tried the IRL version of that in WW1. Millions died, then everyone leveled up and millions more died.

Now we skip the long land war and just bomb the enemy's leaders first and hardest with ICBMs and supersonic war planes.
 
2018-02-17 11:32:31 PM  

doglover: Plus, it's DC that does that "No killing" thing. Marvel has always been about more fallible heroes. And killing is certainly a failing.


A failing is constantly putting the villains in jails and asylums with revolving doors and expecting a different result each time.
 
2018-02-17 11:36:02 PM  

doglover: CyberKultist: Considering how strong some of them have been (or, could be built after their first defeat), full kill is just...wasteful

DC does that. Here's Supes explaining.

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They tried the IRL version of that in WW1. Millions died, then everyone leveled up and millions more died.

Now we skip the long land war and just bomb the enemy's leaders first and hardest with ICBMs and supersonic war planes.


I did miss some words. Strong "characters." (I blame the weekend gin.)

But...yeah, you got a point. At the same time, major antagonists shouldn't get permadeath if you want to tell a good story. That's been the big difference between comics and movies for both studios. Lack of "how did he come back?!" is a staple of the genre, but I can also see how it wouldn't translate to the big screen. Doesn't mean I have to like it though, lol.

/Your analogy of the "mentality shift" makes a lot of sense too, but....damnit no. That isn't how this works.
 
2018-02-17 11:38:36 PM  
vwarb:Stick around for the 2nd after credits scene next time you see it. Serkis ain't gone.

Whuuuuuut? Please help me out - I saw the end(s) - I didn't see *anything* that suggested Serkis was back from the dead.
 
2018-02-17 11:40:46 PM  
Shuri was great.  I so want to see her and Rocket mocking Stark's tech in Infinity War.
 
2018-02-17 11:45:37 PM  

CyberKultist: That isn't how this works.


I look at the MCU as Marvel's World of Cardboard speech.

It's their chance to finally cut loose and kill some of these c*nts who've been pestering the world since the 70's. They aren't just being introduced for the movie going public, but this is the chance for people like me who are SICK of the green goblin to see that POS is pie ce s.
 
2018-02-17 11:52:25 PM  

vwarb: NeoCortex42: The whole cast was really solid.  I don't think there was a weak actor in the film.

My only real complaint is that Marvel needs to stop killing its villains.  Killmonger was solid and could have been nice to have around a bit, and Andy Serkis seemed to be having a farking blast in the role.  I would have loved to see him pop up as a recurring B-tier villain here and there.

Stick around for the 2nd after credits scene next time you see it. Serkis ain't gone.


... You can't tell who's who between Serkis and Sebastian Stan? Maybe get your glasses checked?
 
2018-02-17 11:54:05 PM  

Znuh: vwarb:Stick around for the 2nd after credits scene next time you see it. Serkis ain't gone.

Whuuuuuut? Please help me out - I saw the end(s) - I didn't see *anything* that suggested Serkis was back from the dead.


Yeah, as most everyone else has said in response to that: wut?

I wouldn't put it past them to throw a screwball, but...nothing in post credit stinger suggested that to me.

/anyone want to find if that clip is online yet so we can debate and settle it?
//I would try, but a) I suck at finding that kind of stuff and b) just posting during WarFrame load screens, sorry
 
2018-02-17 11:56:19 PM  

Mugato: NeoCortex42: Killmonger was solid and could have been nice to have around a bit

Killmonger? Who came up with that name, George Lucas?


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2018-02-17 11:57:55 PM  
Saw the movie.  Loved it.  And this is my favorite character:

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When you look up the word "kickass" in the dictionary, this is what you'll see.
 
2018-02-18 12:00:23 AM  

EnormousGreenRageMonster: vwarb: NeoCortex42: The whole cast was really solid.  I don't think there was a weak actor in the film.

My only real complaint is that Marvel needs to stop killing its villains.  Killmonger was solid and could have been nice to have around a bit, and Andy Serkis seemed to be having a farking blast in the role.  I would have loved to see him pop up as a recurring B-tier villain here and there.

Stick around for the 2nd after credits scene next time you see it. Serkis ain't gone.

... You can't tell who's who between Serkis and Sebastian Stan? Maybe get your glasses checked?


Yeah! That was it. I couldn't remember which was which. First is (spoilers, but vague enough to not really be?) The King addressing the UN saying Wakanda will join the world stage and share what they know. Second was...well, we know who found Bucky this time. But...it also seemed like a flashback? For obvious reasons if you've seen it.

/so, yeah. Nothing about Kaule returning, OP is either a troll, idiot, or too sober.
//I like to be nice and think C)
 
2018-02-18 12:11:49 AM  

browneye: Saw the movie.  Loved it.  And this is my favorite character:

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When you look up the word "kickass" in the dictionary, this is what you'll see.


Danai Gurira was farking awesome as Okoye.  One of the best parts of the film.

I think it's a real credit to the actors, writers, and director that there were so many standout characters, and that they didn't overshadow each other.
 
2018-02-18 12:12:05 AM  

browneye: When you look up the word "kickass" in the dictionary, this is what you'll see.


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But that lady looks way cooler.
 
2018-02-18 12:12:29 AM  
Also, the soundtrack was pretty great.
 
2018-02-18 12:19:47 AM  

Polish Hussar: Also, the soundtrack was pretty great.


Oh yes. But, still needed more of this (nsfw lyrics). But yeah...music (and how/when to use each track) was another thing that they knocked out of the damn park.

Jidenna - Long Live the Chief
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/if that shiat hit when KMonger ended his ascension ceremony.....
//or as the graphical credits track
 
2018-02-18 12:24:42 AM  

CyberKultist: Polish Hussar: Also, the soundtrack was pretty great.

Oh yes. But, still needed more of this (nsfw lyrics). But yeah...music (and how/when to use each track) was another thing that they knocked out of the damn park.

[YouTube video: Jidenna - Long Live the Chief]

/if that shiat hit when KMonger ended his ascension ceremony.....
//or as the graphical credits track


(Posted too early again. Sorry)

And yes...I know Marvel has already used that song (live performance during Luke Cage), but Netflix isn't MCU. It would have been better for BP anyway...
 
2018-02-18 12:31:09 AM  

browneye: Saw the movie.  Loved it.  And this is my favorite character:

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When you look up the word "kickass" in the dictionary, this is what you'll see.


Yes! She was my favorite!
 
2018-02-18 12:53:38 AM  
Saw the movie tonight! I think it was perfect, or as close as you can get. Also...

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I have a new waifu. :D
 
2018-02-18 01:04:49 AM  
I did find it interesting that for all the racial hype and SJW excitement over Black Panther, the only actual African-American in the film is the villain.

That is some POWERFUL internalized self-loathing right there, I tell you hwat.
 
2018-02-18 01:16:11 AM  

willfullyobscure: I did find it interesting that for all the racial hype and SJW excitement over Black Panther, the only actual African-American in the film is the villain.

That is some POWERFUL internalized self-loathing right there, I tell you hwat.


He also managed to be one of the stand-outs of a supreme tops breakout cast.

Which...yeah. gj

/we're gonna see more of all of the people from that movie, but I dunno if they'll match the performance
//let little sister go full psycho (because she has shown she can pull off some range) and play Nix in an InFamous2 mini-series...please?
 
2018-02-18 01:22:28 AM  

CyberKultist: willfullyobscure: I did find it interesting that for all the racial hype and SJW excitement over Black Panther, the only actual African-American in the film is the villain.

That is some POWERFUL internalized self-loathing right there, I tell you hwat.

He also managed to be one of the stand-outs of a supreme tops breakout cast.

Which...yeah. gj

/we're gonna see more of all of the people from that movie, but I dunno if they'll match the performance
//let little sister go full psycho (because she has shown she can pull off some range) and play Nix in an InFamous2 mini-series...please?


MBJ is an amazing actor, he's already right up there with Denzel/Poitier/Robeson etc. I'd watch him read the dictionary in a seated position behind a folding screen. He will age like fine wine.

My comment was simply around the psychosocial dynamic at play
 
2018-02-18 01:41:16 AM  

willfullyobscure: I did find it interesting that for all the racial hype and SJW excitement over Black Panther, the only actual African-American in the film is the villain.

That is some POWERFUL internalized self-loathing right there, I tell you hwat.


The bulk of the comic's characters are...

Get ready for it...

African.

Take a few minutes with this if you need it.
 
2018-02-18 01:47:10 AM  
The great thing about this villain and Vulture, is that Marvel finally made villains that people can relate to and see their side, instead of just "I  want to rule the world "
 
2018-02-18 01:52:31 AM  

willfullyobscure: CyberKultist: willfullyobscure: I did find it interesting that for all the racial hype and SJW excitement over Black Panther, the only actual African-American in the film is the villain.

That is some POWERFUL internalized self-loathing right there, I tell you hwat.

He also managed to be one of the stand-outs of a supreme tops breakout cast.

Which...yeah. gj

/we're gonna see more of all of the people from that movie, but I dunno if they'll match the performance
//let little sister go full psycho (because she has shown she can pull off some range) and play Nix in an InFamous2 mini-series...please?

MBJ is an amazing actor, he's already right up there with Denzel/Poitier/Robeson etc. I'd watch him read the dictionary in a seated position behind a folding screen. He will age like fine wine.

My comment was simply around the psychosocial dynamic at play


Yeah, that the point I was commenting on. There will be a lot of hate on his character, but damn if he wasn't perfect for it.

I don't watch too much stuff aside from movies (and most of that is MCU, because can be trusted to be worth the money/time), so I don't know that I've seen him before. Kinda interested to track some earlier roles down though.

/Didn't he have a minor bit in Atlanta in mid/late S1? That voice seemed familiar. To be fair, I was pretty bombed when binged that show so...details aren't my strong point.
 
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