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(The Verge)   Apple's new HomePod runs circles around the competition. No wait, make that leaves circles   ( theverge.com) divider line
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2018-02-14 03:19:27 PM  
Clearly, you're setting it down wrong.
 
2018-02-14 03:37:19 PM  
It's just leaving a mark so you can put it back in the same place
 
2018-02-14 03:41:18 PM  
"Alexa, why are you laughing?"
 
2018-02-14 04:22:26 PM  

Wadded Beef: "Alexa, why are you laughing?"


I have to imagine Amazon, Google, Sonos, etc are all scratching their heads at the HomePod roll-out. I know I am.

If Siri and HomeKit were more ubiquitous I could see this having some value, but as it stands it's a bizarre product.
 
2018-02-14 04:22:34 PM  
Spotify is dumb and who doesn't use a coaster?!
 
2018-02-14 04:24:08 PM  

Le French Boo: Spotify is dumb and who doesn't use a coaster?!


"Why is everybody always pickin' on me?"
 
2018-02-14 04:25:17 PM  

MightyPez: Wadded Beef: "Alexa, why are you laughing?"

I have to imagine Amazon, Google, Sonos, etc are all scratching their heads at the HomePod roll-out. I know I am.

If Siri and HomeKit were more ubiquitous I could see this having some value, but as it stands it's a bizarre product.


If the reviews are any guide, it does come off like a halfhearted attempt.
 
2018-02-14 04:25:49 PM  
I love how they are basically say that all speakers will do that yet that isn't the case.  Another case of your holding it wrong.
 
2018-02-14 04:26:09 PM  
What's the point?

"Introducing the HomePod. It does everything your Amazon or Google device does, but you can get it for only 3 times what they charge."
 
2018-02-14 04:26:19 PM  

MightyPez: Wadded Beef: "Alexa, why are you laughing?"

I have to imagine Amazon, Google, Sonos, etc are all scratching their heads at the HomePod roll-out. I know I am.

If Siri and HomeKit were more ubiquitous I could see this having some value, but as it stands it's a bizarre product.


Sonos Answer was pretty clear, two Sonos ones for the price of one homepod. Tough decision, I know.
 
2018-02-14 04:26:37 PM  

Le French Boo: Spotify is dumb and who doesn't use a coaster?!


Coasters are for drinks that will sweat, a speaker shouldn't sweat.
 
2018-02-14 04:27:28 PM  
"If you have enough money to have solid wood in your house, you're obviously not spending enough on our products, and deserve what you get !"
 
2018-02-14 04:27:38 PM  
FTMFA: the tweeters fire down, so putting it on cloth messes with the reflectivity of the sound)


I guess they thought firing the tweeters downward might give it more spacial quality but, umm, frequencies at which tweeters operate make the sound highly directional. Just have the damn woofah fire downward where it's supposed to.

Also, I don't have issues with any of my portable speakers marring my wood tables. Ultimately it turns out it's nothing more than an overpriced, wood table staining, portable speaker. WTF Apple?
 
2018-02-14 04:28:19 PM  
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2018-02-14 04:28:46 PM  
The speaker is a damn fine speaker on its own. Great bass and 7 tweeters that give it a solid sound to fill the room.

Sadly as a home automation device it fails poorly in voice translation with Siri.  , like any apple product, you NEVER buy generation 1 as the bugs are still not worked out.   See iphone, ipad, watch, etc.
 
2018-02-14 04:29:46 PM  

Enormous-Schwanstucker: FTMFA: the tweeters fire down, so putting it on cloth messes with the reflectivity of the sound)


I guess they thought firing the tweeters downward might give it more spacial quality but, umm, frequencies at which tweeters operate make the sound highly directional. Just have the damn woofah fire downward where it's supposed to.

Also, I don't have issues with any of my portable speakers marring my wood tables. Ultimately it turns out it's nothing more than an overpriced, wood table staining, portable speaker. WTF Apple?


But it's magical!
 
2018-02-14 04:29:55 PM  
In addition to the previous stated advice about hoping the marks go away or cleaning the surface, Apple also for customers who are concerned about the issue, "We recommend placing your HomePod on a different surface."

No...
Farking...
Shiat?

Farking Apple really farked the terrier with this one. It's like the only thing it does well is play music.

Can't pair with an Android phone
Can't distinguish between voices
Can't check your calendar
Doesn't work for shiat unless you're using Apple Music
No aux port for one of those devices that isn't Apple
Can't make a phone
Can't look up answers on the internet

And it costs $350.

Now, if this was 5 years ago, only the lack of an aux input would be significant. But it isn't 5 years ago, and the competition can do ALL Of these things, and for a fraction of the price. Now it farks up your furniture as well?

Apple fanbois are SUCH suckers. I wish I'd gotten in on this scam in the early days.
 
2018-02-14 04:31:13 PM  
Apple's response is rather "fark you." Interesting.
 
2018-02-14 04:31:48 PM  

Churchill92: The speaker is a damn fine speaker on its own. Great bass and 7 tweeters that give it a solid sound to fill the room.

Sadly as a home automation device it fails poorly in voice translation with Siri.  , like any apple product, you NEVER buy generation 1 as the bugs are still not worked out.   See iphone, ipad, watch, etc.


Except Tim Cook is at the helm again, the bugs will never be worked out.
 
2018-02-14 04:32:07 PM  
Pretty much standard Apple advice, if it's not working the way its supposed to, you just throw it out and buy a new one.
 
2018-02-14 04:32:38 PM  

stoli n coke: What's the point?

"Introducing the HomePod. It does everything your Amazon or Google device does, but you can get it for only 3 times what they charge."


Actually, it doesn't even do that... Just costs more.
 
2018-02-14 04:34:17 PM  
Why would I want to bug my own home? It's bad enough with the phone, but Alexa and the rest? Thanks, but no.
 
2018-02-14 04:34:34 PM  
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2018-02-14 04:34:39 PM  
Reminds me of a set of coasters I bought a couple years ago.  When I got home, I noticed the sicker that says, "Not for use on painted or wood surfaces."  So basically, don't use these coasters anywhere you would need to use a coaster.  Thanks, Disney!
 
2018-02-14 04:36:06 PM  

Le French Boo: Spotify is dumb and who doesn't use a coaster?!


A rock-hard coaster.

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2018-02-14 04:36:09 PM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: But it's magical! ™


Damnit, you're right, yet it still won't do what Alexa and other comparable speaker thingies do, for less. Christ, Google's assistant works well. Very well.
 
2018-02-14 04:36:12 PM  
Meh - I think I can survive without a constant web monitoring device staining up my furniture.
I've somehow made it this long without one.
 
2018-02-14 04:36:41 PM  

PhilGed: Pretty much standard Apple advice, if it's not working the way its supposed to, you just throw it out and buy a new one.


No, actually, the answer is "It's not us, it's you...". Their default answer is always that YOU are doing it wrong, and the Apple fanbois just farking lap it up...
 
2018-02-14 04:37:40 PM  

Mikey1969: In addition to the previous stated advice about hoping the marks go away or cleaning the surface, Apple also for customers who are concerned about the issue, "We recommend placing your HomePod on a different surface."

No...
Farking...
Shiat?

Farking Apple really farked the terrier with this one. It's like the only thing it does well is play music.

Can't pair with an Android phone
Can't distinguish between voices
Can't check your calendar
Doesn't work for shiat unless you're using Apple Music
No aux port for one of those devices that isn't Apple
Can't make a phone
Can't look up answers on the internet

And it costs $350.

Now, if this was 5 years ago, only the lack of an aux input would be significant. But it isn't 5 years ago, and the competition can do ALL Of these things, and for a fraction of the price. Now it farks up your furniture as well?

Apple fanbois are SUCH suckers. I wish I'd gotten in on this scam in the early days.


Everyone know you need a dormitory full of suicidal Asian teenagers to make a phone.
 
2018-02-14 04:39:06 PM  

oldfarthenry: Meh - I think I can survive without a constant web monitoring device staining up my furniture.
I've somehow made it this long without one.


When the Echo I had set up started replying to my TV, that was it.  Unplugged and will never be plugged back in.
 
2018-02-14 04:41:48 PM  
If my life as an Apple koolaid drinker has taught me: never buy the first model Apple puts out of anything. Buy the second after they get a year of field testing to find out what people use it for, and adjust be device's capabilities accordingly.

iPhone 1: a paperweight
iPhone 3GS: ran until my kids destroyed it

Apple TV 1: a paperweight. (Ok, it was reflashed with Linux and runs as a webserver in my office.)

All the versions after: still work, still actively supported. (I have a 2 and a 4.)

I sat out the iWatch. And the the "only USB port" MacBook. I might indulge in a 3rd generation iWatch actually. The fact it makes calls...

...back on topic.

Apple knows their first release of something is going to be crap.
 
2018-02-14 04:43:15 PM  
So, are you guys trying to say this isn't a feature?
 
2018-02-14 04:43:57 PM  
The biggest problem is that Siri blows farking ass. Work on that. If I decide I want a HomePod, I'll use a coaster or some shiat.
 
2018-02-14 04:45:18 PM  
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2018-02-14 04:46:38 PM  
Feel_the_velvet:

You're the product, this just gets them access.

/your mom always makes me use a coaster
//when she brings me a beer
///
 
2018-02-14 04:48:25 PM  

Mikey1969: In addition to the previous stated advice about hoping the marks go away or cleaning the surface, Apple also for customers who are concerned about the issue, "We recommend placing your HomePod on a different surface."

No...
Farking...
Shiat?

Farking Apple really farked the terrier with this one. It's like the only thing it does well is play music.

Can't pair with an Android phone
Can't distinguish between voices
Can't check your calendar
Doesn't work for shiat unless you're using Apple Music
No aux port for one of those devices that isn't Apple
Can't make a phone
Can't look up answers on the internet

And it costs $350.

Now, if this was 5 years ago, only the lack of an aux input would be significant. But it isn't 5 years ago, and the competition can do ALL Of these things, and for a fraction of the price. Now it farks up your furniture as well?

Apple fanbois are SUCH suckers. I wish I'd gotten in on this scam in the early days.


Ya but what is BGR saying about this? That's when I'll get the REAL answer. /s
 
2018-02-14 04:50:00 PM  

stoli n coke: What's the point?

"Introducing the HomePod. It does everything your Amazon or Google device does, but you can get it for only 3 times what they charge."


3 times, plus the cost of an iOS device if you don't already have one.  You apparently can't use it without one.  Amazon and Google are using cheap smart devices to get themselves into your home and get you comfortable with their ecosystems.  Apple, apparently, doesn't want to go anywhere it hasn't already been.
 
2018-02-14 04:50:25 PM  

stoli n coke: What's the point?

"Introducing the HomePod. It does everything your Amazon or Google device does, but you can get it for only 3 times what they charge."


It doesnt do half of what they do.

The sound is pretty incredible.

But Alexa/google understand commands better and do much more personal assistant stuff

But currently:

1.No bluetooth streaming
2.No ecosystem

So it is just a good sounding jukebox for Apple Music.
 
2018-02-14 04:51:24 PM  
First, it was Antennagate...
Then it was Bendgate...
OHMYGOD IT'S WHITEMARKGATE!!!
 
2018-02-14 04:52:17 PM  

petec: Feel_the_velvet:

You're the product, this just gets them access.

/your mom always makes me use a coaster
//when she brings me a beer
///


I thought I deleted all of your quote, not directed at you. Mea culpa.
 
2018-02-14 04:56:29 PM  

petec: petec: Feel_the_velvet:

You're the product, this just gets them access.

/your mom always makes me use a coaster
//when she brings me a beer
///

I thought I deleted all of your quote, not directed at you. Mea culpa.


So... whose mother were you referring to?
 
2018-02-14 04:56:41 PM  
We're only 10 days away from a dongle that you attach to the bottom of the speaker that fixes this! I'm heading to the Apple Store to wait in line now!!!
 
2018-02-14 04:59:11 PM  

Psychopusher: Clearly, you're setting it down wrong.


You perfectly nailed Apple's mentality. Well done.

The other is "Works perfectly with the Apple Table."
 
2018-02-14 05:00:41 PM  

theflatline: stoli n coke: What's the point?

"Introducing the HomePod. It does everything your Amazon or Google device does, but you can get it for only 3 times what they charge."

It doesnt do half of what they do.

The sound is pretty incredible.

But Alexa/google understand commands better and do much more personal assistant stuff

But currently:

1.No bluetooth streaming
2.No ecosystem

So it is just a good sounding jukebox for Apple Music.


No sale. I still have a really nice speaker for my iPod that I bought 8 years ago for $200.
 
2018-02-14 05:02:47 PM  

Evil Twin Skippy: If my life as an Apple koolaid drinker has taught me: never buy the first model Apple puts out of anything. Buy the second after they get a year of field testing to find out what people use it for, and adjust be device's capabilities accordingly.

iPhone 1: a paperweight
iPhone 3GS: ran until my kids destroyed it

Apple TV 1: a paperweight. (Ok, it was reflashed with Linux and runs as a webserver in my office.)

All the versions after: still work, still actively supported. (I have a 2 and a 4.)

I sat out the iWatch. And the the "only USB port" MacBook. I might indulge in a 3rd generation iWatch actually. The fact it makes calls...

...back on topic.

Apple knows their first release of something is going to be crap.


Apple TV Second Gen was declared Vintage last year.  IT works but it is no longer supported, and third parties(networks, etc) have been dropping support for it.
 
2018-02-14 05:03:34 PM  
Has Consumer Reports reviewed the rings yet?  What did they say?  How do the HomePod rings compare to Sonos and Google?
 
2018-02-14 05:05:01 PM  

Churchill92: like any apple product, you NEVER buy generation 1 as the bugs are still not worked out.   See iphone, ipad, watch, etc.


Exactly wait for gen 2 when you can get all of the promised features of gen 1 at twice the price!
 
2018-02-14 05:06:07 PM  

OpusSoup: oldfarthenry: Meh - I think I can survive without a constant web monitoring device staining up my furniture.
I've somehow made it this long without one.

When the Echo I had set up started replying to my TV, that was it.  Unplugged and will never be plugged back in.


Well, it's called an ECHO(echo... echo...). What did you expect it to do?
 
2018-02-14 05:06:14 PM  

GORDON: Apple's response is rather "fark you." Interesting.


More like SOP from Apple.

If you can find the broadcast where Jobs talks about putting CD burners back into desktops you'll see a guy who "got it" when he farked up.  More importantly you will see a guy who "got it" when he farked up and there was a buck to be made over it.

Watching it from that perspective you see the whole thing as kind of crass, but it's more nuanced than Apple has been for a long time.  They know they have you in their ecosphere and people buying things like the HomePod aren't clamoring to get out of it or unwilling to throw more money to get dug in deeper.

They don't care.  You just spend a shiat ton of money on something other companies have done better and had on the market for years.  The only way they care is if they can sell you a solar-charging base for it at twice the price.
 
2018-02-14 05:11:32 PM  

killwhitey: Psychopusher: Clearly, you're setting it down wrong.

You perfectly nailed Apple's mentality. Well done.

The other is "Works perfectly with the Apple Table."


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