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(NPR)   NPR FTFY: Can the US combat election interference if the US President refuses to accept it is happening?   ( npr.org) divider line
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2018-02-14 12:45:14 PM  
I sincerely hope so.

/Farkin' traitor Trump.
 
2018-02-14 12:57:53 PM  
Sure. Deep State (qualified people) to the rescue.
 
2018-02-14 01:52:22 PM  
What if the president is actively masturbating to the interference?
 
2018-02-14 01:58:47 PM  
You don't hear many prison inmates admit they did it either.
 
2018-02-14 04:20:54 PM  
How do we know that just for jollies the Russians won't work the the Dems this time?
 
2018-02-14 05:23:48 PM  
That's the thing - at some point someone has to publicly step up and tell Trump: "Look this is more impt than your ego. Get over yourself. The crucial thing is we need to stop them doing it again. "
 
2018-02-14 05:24:07 PM  
I'm kind of sick of hearing stuff like the president "refuses to accept" it is happening, like he was unaware and now couldn't fathom such a thing. He's not "refusing to accept" it's happening. He's lying about it. Even the generous part of me wants to say " Trump is lying, it's his followers that refuse to accept it."  But they know it happened, too. They just don't care. Cuz "stigginit to that black guy, that Clinton biatch and anyone that voted for them. Where's my hoveround. Gotta get to to the dollar store and back before Hannity."
 
2018-02-14 05:50:40 PM  
The administration condemned foreign interference last year when Trump signed a bill mandating new sanctions on Russia as punishment for the 2016 active measures.

You mean the sanctions Donnie refuses to enforce?
 
2018-02-14 05:57:52 PM  
For whatever reason, I read the headline as "wombat election interference." Frankly, that sounds pretty darned adorable to me.
 
2018-02-14 06:33:24 PM  
Well, fark his feelings.
 
2018-02-14 06:35:19 PM  
If law enforcement and intelligence agencies are motivated to do so (and assuming they're not ordered not to by POTUS which in itself would be a massive red flag saying "Please investigate me")
 
2018-02-14 06:35:26 PM  
Speaking of, WikiLeaks' Twitter DMs have been leaked

https://theintercept.com/2018/02/14/j​u​lian-assange-wikileaks-election-clinto​n-trump/

/Tried to submit this, but mods already decided to not list this link
 
2018-02-14 06:37:31 PM  
"If the president would only say that," King said. "We cannot confront this threat - which is a serious threat - with a whole-of-government response when the leader of the government continues to deny that it exists."

Because the Republicans don't want to confront the logical conclusion to that admission.
 
2018-02-14 06:38:46 PM  
Sure, but much less effectively.
 
2018-02-14 06:40:17 PM  

Three Crooked Squirrels: I'm kind of sick of hearing stuff like the president "refuses to accept" it is happening, like he was unaware and now couldn't fathom such a thing. He's not "refusing to accept" it's happening. He's lying about it. Even the generous part of me wants to say " Trump is lying, it's his followers that refuse to accept it."  But they know it happened, too. They just don't care.


This. He's not expressing disbelief that it happened. He knows it happened. And whether it's proven or not, the stupid assholes who voted for him don't care. Because they're stupid assholes.
 
2018-02-14 06:41:20 PM  
By "refuses to accept" do you actually mean "actively aided and abetted?"
Because that seems closer to what happened.
 
2018-02-14 06:41:37 PM  
Yes, the deep state will handle it.. as well as it can.
 
2018-02-14 06:42:28 PM  
"I disagree ... that we are no better prepared," said Sen. Jim Risch, R-Idaho.
Not only are the intelligence agencies now on alert, he said, so are voters after months of discussion in Congress and in the press.

"The American people are smart people," he said. "They realize people are attempting to manipulate them, both domestically and foreign."

It seems that Senator Risch is either an idiot or a traitor, because that is a bald faced lie.
 
2018-02-14 06:43:46 PM  

Percise1: "I disagree ... that we are no better prepared," said Sen. Jim Risch, R-Idaho.
Not only are the intelligence agencies now on alert, he said, so are voters after months of discussion in Congress and in the press.
"The American people are smart people," he said. "They realize people are attempting to manipulate them, both domestically and foreign."

It seems that Senator Risch is either an idiot or a traitor, because that is a bald faced lie.


Right. Americans are way, way stupider than he's letting on.
 
2018-02-14 06:46:12 PM  

rzrwiresunrise: "If the president would only say that," King said. "We cannot confront this threat - which is a serious threat - with a whole-of-government response when the leader of the government continues to deny that it exists."

Because the Republicans don't want to confront the logical conclusion to that admission. are complicit in the interference.


FTFY. The entire GOP leadership is in this shiat up to their necks. They're either complicit in the crime or the cover-up, and, if there was actual justice in the world, every single one of them would be behind bars.
 
2018-02-14 06:46:54 PM  
In Donnie's little animal brain, he knows that the Russians helped him, but his narcissistic personality disorder will not let him admit he did not really win(the popular vote) and that he stole the electoral college.  It would cause his personality to schism.

My father is an NPD like Trump, but genius level IQ, Masters in Journalism, Law Degree, Phd in Philopshy.  Also coffee farmer, gold miner, store owner.  He did a lot of shiat in his life, and he could have been super succesful, but booze and whores were his thing, and my grandmother had a metric ass ton of cash to get him out of trouble.   So wealth and actually being the smartest one at the table.  Unlike Donny, who just fell out of the right vagina.

My father would get drunk and do all sorts of crazy shiat in his house and blame it on me(I was 39). Set the kitchen on fire, pull a sink out the wall.  Then convince everyone I did.  Because he had the self image to protect, internally and externally.

So one day a few neighbors are over for a cocktail party, and he is saying how I got drink and started a grease fire, and they are all tut tutting.

I fire up the big screen, and put on a video, i had from a cam I hung in the kitchen, him smoking a joint in his tighty whities frying an empanada and starting the grease fire.

He flew into a blind rage, threatened to sue me, that the video was a lie, and since I am computer guy it was actually doctored up.  Then a neighbor said "So that burn on your hand that I can see in the video and on your hand, is fake too?"

He literally could not talk for three days until he could push it completely out of his mind.
 
2018-02-14 06:46:58 PM  
He knew there was interference.  But once he acknowledges that fact, the validity of his win comes into question.
 
2018-02-14 06:47:27 PM  
If the head of the executive branch says that something like that isn't happening, then we should really just defer to his expertise on the matter and likewise refuse to accept that it's happening and move on with our lives.
 
2018-02-14 06:48:29 PM  

Terpsichorus: He knew there was interference.  But once he acknowledges that fact, the validity of his win comes into question.


Hahahaha, you and i simul-posted the same thing!
 
2018-02-14 06:49:46 PM  
NPR = US Jews & Girls Report

/heard Terry Gross quoting and laughing about that today
 
2018-02-14 06:50:22 PM  

KarmicDisaster: How do we know that just for jollies the Russians won't work the the Dems this time?


Because it's going so well for them this time. Putin is (he says, anyway) negotiating with Palestinians on behalf of the US this month. Imagine what he'll say he's got the go-ahead for next month. It's great for Russia, it's only getting better, they're not going to change horses mid-stream....to paraphrase just one tired election slogan Russian bots will have all over Twitter in 2020.
 
2018-02-14 06:50:42 PM  
""This is not going to change or stop," said National Security Agency Director Adm. Mike Rogers."

The GOP doesn't want it to, it's helping them, if it was boosting the democrats instead only then it would be a HUGE problem.
 
2018-02-14 06:56:01 PM  

KarmicDisaster: How do we know that just for jollies the Russians won't work the the Dems this time?


The Russian objective is to encourage dissension and disorder in American society, so they might just do that.
 
2018-02-14 06:56:11 PM  

Weatherkiss: If the head of the executive branch says that something like that isn't happening, then we should really just defer to his expertise on the matter and likewise refuse to accept that it's happening and move on with our lives.


I'm still on the fence about believing Donald Trump.
 
2018-02-14 06:58:11 PM  
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2018-02-14 06:59:47 PM  

Three Crooked Squirrels: I'm kind of sick of hearing stuff like the president "refuses to accept" it is happening, like he was unaware and now couldn't fathom such a thing. He's not "refusing to accept" it's happening. He's lying about it. Even the generous part of me wants to say " Trump is lying, it's his followers that refuse to accept it."  But they know it happened, too. They just don't care. Cuz "stigginit to that black guy, that Clinton biatch and anyone that voted for them. Where's my hoveround. Gotta get to to the dollar store and back before Hannity."


He's not just lying about it. He's abetting it.
 
2018-02-14 07:02:28 PM  
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2018-02-14 07:04:08 PM  

theflatline: In Donnie's little animal brain, he knows that the Russians helped him, but his narcissistic personality disorder will not let him admit he did not really win(the popular vote) and that he stole the electoral college.  It would cause his personality to schism.

My father is an NPD like Trump, but genius level IQ, Masters in Journalism, Law Degree, Phd in Philopshy.  Also coffee farmer, gold miner, store owner.  He did a lot of shiat in his life, and he could have been super succesful, but booze and whores were his thing, and my grandmother had a metric ass ton of cash to get him out of trouble.   So wealth and actually being the smartest one at the table.  Unlike Donny, who just fell out of the right vagina.

My father would get drunk and do all sorts of crazy shiat in his house and blame it on me(I was 39). Set the kitchen on fire, pull a sink out the wall.  Then convince everyone I did.  Because he had the self image to protect, internally and externally.

So one day a few neighbors are over for a cocktail party, and he is saying how I got drink and started a grease fire, and they are all tut tutting.

I fire up the big screen, and put on a video, i had from a cam I hung in the kitchen, him smoking a joint in his tighty whities frying an empanada and starting the grease fire.

He flew into a blind rage, threatened to sue me, that the video was a lie, and since I am computer guy it was actually doctored up.  Then a neighbor said "So that burn on your hand that I can see in the video and on your hand, is fake too?"

He literally could not talk for three days until he could push it completely out of his mind.


Thank you for sharing your story.  It must be difficult for you. I sincerely hope you can make the best of your situation. Keep on being strong.
 
2018-02-14 07:04:23 PM  

KarmicDisaster: How do we know that just for jollies the Russians won't work the the Dems this time?


That would be odd.
 
2018-02-14 07:04:51 PM  

yakmans_dad: Three Crooked Squirrels: I'm kind of sick of hearing stuff like the president "refuses to accept" it is happening, like he was unaware and now couldn't fathom such a thing. He's not "refusing to accept" it's happening. He's lying about it. Even the generous part of me wants to say " Trump is lying, it's his followers that refuse to accept it."  But they know it happened, too. They just don't care. Cuz "stigginit to that black guy, that Clinton biatch and anyone that voted for them. Where's my hoveround. Gotta get to to the dollar store and back before Hannity."

He's not just lying about it. He's abetting it.


And also obstructing the investigation of it.
 
2018-02-14 07:05:06 PM  

theflatline: In Donnie's little animal brain, he knows that the Russians helped him, but his narcissistic personality disorder will not let him admit he did not really win(the popular vote) and that he stole the electoral college.  It would cause his personality to schism.

My father is an NPD like Trump, but genius level IQ, Masters in Journalism, Law Degree, Phd in Philopshy.  Also coffee farmer, gold miner, store owner.  He did a lot of shiat in his life, and he could have been super succesful, but booze and whores were his thing, and my grandmother had a metric ass ton of cash to get him out of trouble.   So wealth and actually being the smartest one at the table.  Unlike Donny, who just fell out of the right vagina.

My father would get drunk and do all sorts of crazy shiat in his house and blame it on me(I was 39). Set the kitchen on fire, pull a sink out the wall.  Then convince everyone I did.  Because he had the self image to protect, internally and externally.

So one day a few neighbors are over for a cocktail party, and he is saying how I got drink and started a grease fire, and they are all tut tutting.

I fire up the big screen, and put on a video, i had from a cam I hung in the kitchen, him smoking a joint in his tighty whities frying an empanada and starting the grease fire.

He flew into a blind rage, threatened to sue me, that the video was a lie, and since I am computer guy it was actually doctored up.  Then a neighbor said "So that burn on your hand that I can see in the video and on your hand, is fake too?"

He literally could not talk for three days until he could push it completely out of his mind.


I kinda want to hear more stories like this. Not sure it'll put Chunky Donny in any clearer a light, but the schadenfreude is entertaining and tickles my wish fulfillment g-spot (by imagining it'll one day happen to His Orangeness).
 
2018-02-14 07:08:21 PM  
So you're saying that we're farked?
 
2018-02-14 07:08:21 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: What if the president is actively masturbating to the interference?


Masturbating or masterminding?

Wait, I forgot who we're talking about.

Masturbating.
 
2018-02-14 07:09:48 PM  

SirBarsalot: theflatline: In Donnie's little animal brain, he knows that the Russians helped him, but his narcissistic personality disorder will not let him admit he did not really win(the popular vote) and that he stole the electoral college.  It would cause his personality to schism.

My father is an NPD like Trump, but genius level IQ, Masters in Journalism, Law Degree, Phd in Philopshy.  Also coffee farmer, gold miner, store owner.  He did a lot of shiat in his life, and he could have been super succesful, but booze and whores were his thing, and my grandmother had a metric ass ton of cash to get him out of trouble.   So wealth and actually being the smartest one at the table.  Unlike Donny, who just fell out of the right vagina.

My father would get drunk and do all sorts of crazy shiat in his house and blame it on me(I was 39). Set the kitchen on fire, pull a sink out the wall.  Then convince everyone I did.  Because he had the self image to protect, internally and externally.

So one day a few neighbors are over for a cocktail party, and he is saying how I got drink and started a grease fire, and they are all tut tutting.

I fire up the big screen, and put on a video, i had from a cam I hung in the kitchen, him smoking a joint in his tighty whities frying an empanada and starting the grease fire.

He flew into a blind rage, threatened to sue me, that the video was a lie, and since I am computer guy it was actually doctored up.  Then a neighbor said "So that burn on your hand that I can see in the video and on your hand, is fake too?"

He literally could not talk for three days until he could push it completely out of his mind.

Thank you for sharing your story.  It must be difficult for you. I sincerely hope you can make the best of your situation. Keep on being strong.


Hahaha he was a deadbeat bad, no child support, farked off back to Colombia when i was like 3.  I mean I lived there for a bit, to understand more about me, and that side of the family, and I could see i was a lot like him, and it was a wake up call for me.

I  do not speak to him anymore.
 
2018-02-14 07:16:01 PM  
This will reach a point where Trump and the GOP says to the country, "yeah well what are you gonna do about it?"

Then we'll find out what we're made of.
 
2018-02-14 07:20:38 PM  

KarmicDisaster: How do we know that just for jollies the Russians won't work the the Dems this time?


I suspect that they already are. The far left dem socialists are increasingly hostile towards the rest of the dems and I swear there are several fb groups whose job it is to keep the pot boiling.
 
2018-02-14 07:22:06 PM  

REO-Weedwagon: This will reach a point where Trump and the GOP says to the country, "yeah well what are you gonna do about it?"

Then we'll find out what we're made of.


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2018-02-14 07:23:01 PM  
Is it me, or is that a mealy mouthed view from nowhere article?
 
2018-02-14 07:26:37 PM  

Percise1: "I disagree ... that we are no better prepared," said Sen. Jim Risch, R-Idaho.
Not only are the intelligence agencies now on alert, he said, so are voters after months of discussion in Congress and in the press.
"The American people are smart people," he said. "They realize people are attempting to manipulate them, both domestically and foreign."

It seems that Senator Risch is either an idiot or a traitor, because that is a bald faced lie.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning​%​E2%80%93Kruger_effect
 
2018-02-14 07:27:23 PM  

namegoeshere: KarmicDisaster: How do we know that just for jollies the Russians won't work the the Dems this time?

I suspect that they already are. The far left dem socialists are increasingly hostile towards the rest of the dems and I swear there are several fb groups whose job it is to keep the pot boiling.


Did something upset the hard left?

8 years of seeing through the bullshiat and wanting a change from the status quo of pay-to-play politics?

NAHHHHH
 
2018-02-14 07:31:02 PM  

KarmicDisaster: How do we know that just for jollies the Russians won't work the the Dems this time?


Is that supposed to be a good thing? No way. Regardless who they're helping, it has to stop. Democracy has to prevail.
Anybody who would give up democracy for a guarantee that the people they agree with the most will be in power, is an idiot.
 
2018-02-14 07:33:22 PM  

The Brains: namegoeshere: KarmicDisaster: How do we know that just for jollies the Russians won't work the the Dems this time?

I suspect that they already are. The far left dem socialists are increasingly hostile towards the rest of the dems and I swear there are several fb groups whose job it is to keep the pot boiling.

Did something upset the hard left?

8 years of seeing through the bullshiat and wanting a change from the status quo of pay-to-play politics?

NAHHHHH


Fair enough. But breaking completely from the party and going it alone is going to lead to infinity GOP everything. And if you hate how the democrats do politics...
 
2018-02-14 07:38:09 PM  
It is Russian interference when Trump says elect more Republicans. Especially when Russian bots retweet him 1000s of times as soon as Trump's tweet is posted.
 
2018-02-14 07:39:11 PM  
He took an oath, and by letting Russia mess with us, he has violated that oath.
 
2018-02-14 07:40:29 PM  
I imagine quite a lot is happening in this administration without the president's knowledge or belief
 
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