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(WTVR)   Student with no other transportation misses 19 days of school because of late bus. TV station pulls bus GPS records and discovers she's right - and 16 other days are unaccounted for due to a "GPS malfunctioning" status   ( wtvr.com) divider line
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2018-02-14 08:05:07 AM  
Sounds like all the members of the school board and the front office administration need to get a CDL and be stand-by bus drivers until they can maintain a staffed team of drivers.
 
2018-02-14 08:51:48 AM  
But don't you dare cheat and use a calculator in class.
You'll need math skills in real life.
 
2018-02-14 08:55:00 AM  
I would be curious about a comparison on bus timeliness by student demographic.
 
2018-02-14 09:03:58 AM  
The bus was late because it had to pick up Rebecca, Lolita, Veshawn, Dawn, Bilzarbra, Milzary, Bilzetty, Kilzam, Tilzommy, Tilzerrance and Bilzobby (that's my man).
 
2018-02-14 09:06:48 AM  
16 other days are unaccounted for due to a "GPS malfunctioning" status.

Hmmmm... Has a driver found the J1292 connection?
 
2018-02-14 09:11:02 AM  
OK, so because I'm funny that way, I decided to find out how far away the school is from the the bus stop.  Here is a Google Maps of the possible walking routes:

https://www.google.com/maps/dir/37.48​8​3369,-77.5418602/37.4929594,-77.514501​7/­[nospam-﹫-backwards]73­*4­86­8556,-77.5414525,14z/data=!4m​2!4m1!3e2

It kind of sucks, because she's only about 1.5 miles away from the school as the crow flies, but if you stay on the roads and don't cut through the power-line right of way and through some private property, the shortest distance is 3.5 miles.

That 1.5 miles is about how far away my school was when I was in 5th grade, and when I missed the bus "accidentally on purpose" a couple of times, my parents made me walk to school instead of driving me.  So if she had a good path that length, I'd be like "Meh, let her walk".  It'd be good exercise and it would probably take about the same time as the bus ride (probably 30 minutes).

But 3.5 miles is probably too much, as it would take something over an hour.
 
2018-02-14 09:15:55 AM  
I should also point out that all of those potential walking paths are on or cross divided highways, so not the safest thing.  And even the one following the power line cut has to cross a highway with a concrete center divider, so not practical for a kid.
 
2018-02-14 09:28:10 AM  
"We are currently experiencing a shortage of drivers, to include this particular route however our department is working diligently to prioritize the routes that are most significantly impacted by the driver shortage. A bus shuttle system has been implemented to accommodate those routes until more drivers are hired. "

So they don't have enough drivers.

Why?
 
2018-02-14 09:30:37 AM  
I was going to suggest biking the route but both road paths cross a freeway with no sidewalks so that's not even feasible either.
 
2018-02-14 09:33:04 AM  

thorpe: "We are currently experiencing a shortage of drivers, to include this particular route however our department is working diligently to prioritize the routes that are most significantly impacted by the driver shortage. A bus shuttle system has been implemented to accommodate those routes until more drivers are hired. "

So they don't have enough drivers.

Why?


Because being a bus driver sucks
 
2018-02-14 09:33:06 AM  
As I had to go to the next city for the equivalent of middle/high school, missing the bus meant waiting 20 to 30 minutes. No school busses here.

I always wonder why most of the US has no such public tranport system. It's not like the busses I took to school started at my house and ended at the school. Even had to change routes because there was no direct line.

I mean, it's not like you get a car once you leave school, no? People also have to go to work and stuff, so there is demand all through the day (after 9pm you were farked however, only a bus once every couple of hours in the best case and some lines simply stopped operating) so why do you have special busses only for kids?
 
2018-02-14 09:33:30 AM  

dittybopper: OK, so because I'm funny that way, I decided to find out how far away the school is from the the bus stop.  Here is a Google Maps of the possible walking routes:

https://www.google.com/maps/dir/37.488​3369,-77.5418602/37.4929594,-77.514501​7/[[nospam-﹫-backwards] image 7x13]73[* image 7x13]4868556,-77.5414525,14z/data=!4m2​!4m1!3e2

It kind of sucks, because she's only about 1.5 miles away from the school as the crow flies, but if you stay on the roads and don't cut through the power-line right of way and through some private property, the shortest distance is 3.5 miles.

That 1.5 miles is about how far away my school was when I was in 5th grade, and when I missed the bus "accidentally on purpose" a couple of times, my parents made me walk to school instead of driving me.  So if she had a good path that length, I'd be like "Meh, let her walk".  It'd be good exercise and it would probably take about the same time as the bus ride (probably 30 minutes).

But 3.5 miles is probably too much, as it would take something over an hour.


There are also no sidewalks and large sections of that route, including the 6 lane highway.  The alternate routes are also unsafe. This is what happens when you eff up your city by designing it for cars instead of people.
 
2018-02-14 09:34:29 AM  
Seems like they need to adjust their routes.  If you have ten routes, but only eight drivers, you might want to consider have eight slightly longer routes.  Sure, it sucks that some kids will have a bit longer ride on the bus, but that's not unusual for some areas.  You work with what resources you have while you try to get more.
 
2018-02-14 09:34:45 AM  
last post: *of* not *and*. Typing is hard.
 
2018-02-14 09:36:56 AM  

dittybopper: OK, so because I'm funny that way, I decided to find out how far away the school is from the the bus stop.  Here is a Google Maps of the possible walking routes:

https://www.google.com/maps/dir/37.488​3369,-77.5418602/37.4929594,-77.514501​7/734868556,-77.5414525,14z/data=!4m2!​4m1!3e2

It kind of sucks, because she's only about 1.5 miles away from the school as the crow flies, but if you stay on the roads and don't cut through the power-line right of way and through some private property, the shortest distance is 3.5 miles.

That 1.5 miles is about how far away my school was when I was in 5th grade, and when I missed the bus "accidentally on purpose" a couple of times, my parents made me walk to school instead of driving me.  So if she had a good path that length, I'd be like "Meh, let her walk".  It'd be good exercise and it would probably take about the same time as the bus ride (probably 30 minutes).

But 3.5 miles is probably too much, as it would take something over an hour.


Plus, even if the shorter route was safe for walking, you know the "what about the children" crowd would call COS on them. Because , as we all know, kidnappers and pedophile rapists have an internal GPS that alerts them whenever a child dares to walk outside unaccompanied.
 
2018-02-14 09:37:09 AM  

thorpe: "We are currently experiencing a shortage of drivers, to include this particular route however our department is working diligently to prioritize the routes that are most significantly impacted by the driver shortage. A bus shuttle system has been implemented to accommodate those routes until more drivers are hired. "

So they don't have enough drivers.

Why?


People don't like paying taxes, school board doesn't have enough money, assholes on school board don't like spending money on black people.
 
2018-02-14 09:37:20 AM  

dittybopper: OK, so because I'm funny that way, I decided to find out how far away the school is from the the bus stop.  Here is a Google Maps of the possible walking routes:

https://www.google.com/maps/dir/37.488​3369,-77.5418602/37.4929594,-77.514501​7/[[nospam-﹫-backwards] image 7x13]73[* image 7x13]4868556,-77.5414525,14z/data=!4m2​!4m1!3e2

It kind of sucks, because she's only about 1.5 miles away from the school as the crow flies, but if you stay on the roads and don't cut through the power-line right of way and through some private property, the shortest distance is 3.5 miles.

That 1.5 miles is about how far away my school was when I was in 5th grade, and when I missed the bus "accidentally on purpose" a couple of times, my parents made me walk to school instead of driving me.  So if she had a good path that length, I'd be like "Meh, let her walk".  It'd be good exercise and it would probably take about the same time as the bus ride (probably 30 minutes).

But 3.5 miles is probably too much, as it would take something over an hour.


YMMV of course: There is zero chance my 8th grader is walking on her own for 1.5 miles, especially since it's not main roads. Like....ZERO. Now why he can't walk with her I don't know. Could be a health thing or a legal thing, I don't care either way though. Get the damn bus there on time.
 
2018-02-14 09:37:35 AM  
From my own, now unrepressed memories of a school bus driver.  If you were late, you had to go in to the school and explain yourself. I had two rail road crossings that made me late plus there was construction.  Walk in to the front office, tell them Bus 7 was held up by a train, walk out, curse God for putting me in a bus and go back to the bus lot and sob some more.

Worked third shift, went to the bus job at 7.  Done by 8:30.  College.  Afternoon bus route.  Sleep.  Go to third shift job.  Once in a while, take a sports team somewhere in the evening and sleep on the bus while they did stuff.  Woke up one time because their arch rivals were trying to flip the bus.
 
2018-02-14 09:37:59 AM  

lucksi: As I had to go to the next city for the equivalent of middle/high school, missing the bus meant waiting 20 to 30 minutes. No school busses here.

I always wonder why most of the US has no such public tranport system. It's not like the busses I took to school started at my house and ended at the school. Even had to change routes because there was no direct line.

I mean, it's not like you get a car once you leave school, no? People also have to go to work and stuff, so there is demand all through the day (after 9pm you were farked however, only a bus once every couple of hours in the best case and some lines simply stopped operating) so why do you have special busses only for kids?


Supply and demand.  I spent a few years of elementary school in a city that didn't have a school bus system, but relied on students taking city buses (and paying out of pocket each way every day).  Everywhere else I've lived, there was much less city bus service due to just not having people densely enough populated to support a thorough bus system.
 
2018-02-14 09:39:11 AM  
Well, I'd be there earlier, but the stupid interlock won't let me start the bus until my BAC falls below .08.
 
2018-02-14 09:43:13 AM  
Wait... when the bus is late, shouldn't she still make it to school? Obviously she might be late (as well as every other kid on the bus), but she wouldn't be absent.

Of course, that's not accounting for the 16 mystery days where the GPS wasn't working... If we assume the bus skipped her stop on those days, 19 absences doesn't sound out of line.
 
2018-02-14 09:46:59 AM  

eKonk: when the bus is late, shouldn't she still make it to school?


It doesn't matter what time the bus arrives at school if it doesn't pick you up.

No bus = No school = douse the administrators who've cashed their paychecks with gasoline and toss lit cigars at them
 
2018-02-14 09:47:32 AM  

Antidamascus: thorpe: "We are currently experiencing a shortage of drivers, to include this particular route however our department is working diligently to prioritize the routes that are most significantly impacted by the driver shortage. A bus shuttle system has been implemented to accommodate those routes until more drivers are hired. "

So they don't have enough drivers.

Why?

Because being a bus driver sucks


I was going to say that.
 
2018-02-14 09:49:51 AM  
Perhaps they should stop buying GPS trackers from the people who make bodycams for the police.
 
2018-02-14 09:50:50 AM  

Bondith: thorpe: "We are currently experiencing a shortage of drivers, to include this particular route however our department is working diligently to prioritize the routes that are most significantly impacted by the driver shortage. A bus shuttle system has been implemented to accommodate those routes until more drivers are hired. "

So they don't have enough drivers.

Why?

People don't like paying taxes, school board doesn't have enough money, assholes on school board don't like spending money on black people.


Yeah I am sure this is the real reason for this debacle..
 
2018-02-14 09:51:05 AM  

Bondith: thorpe: "We are currently experiencing a shortage of drivers, to include this particular route however our department is working diligently to prioritize the routes that are most significantly impacted by the driver shortage. A bus shuttle system has been implemented to accommodate those routes until more drivers are hired. "

So they don't have enough drivers.

Why?

People don't like paying taxes, school board doesn't have enough money, assholes on school board don't like spending money on black people.


Gee, I wonder why...

\*cough*bullshiat*cough*
 
2018-02-14 09:53:28 AM  
I like the part where the school first says "uh, we looked at the GPS and they prove it's not our problem" to which the news replied ".... so you're saying GPS records exist....".
 
2018-02-14 09:54:01 AM  
So around here the problem came about because of Obamacare.  The drivers got their hours cut to avoid insurance costs.  A huge shortage was the result.
 
2018-02-14 09:54:40 AM  

dropdfun: Bondith: thorpe: "We are currently experiencing a shortage of drivers, to include this particular route however our department is working diligently to prioritize the routes that are most significantly impacted by the driver shortage. A bus shuttle system has been implemented to accommodate those routes until more drivers are hired. "

So they don't have enough drivers.

Why?

People don't like paying taxes, school board doesn't have enough money, assholes on school board don't like spending money on black people.

Yeah I am sure this is the real reason for this debacle..


lol disregard, got my threads I was reading mixed up.
 
2018-02-14 09:59:30 AM  

Jim from Saint Paul: YMMV of course: There is zero chance my 8th grader is walking on her own for 1.5 miles, especially since it's not main roads. Like....ZERO.


Why is that?

No, seriously, I'm asking a question, setting aside the school issue, why wouldn't you let a 13 or 14 year old walk a mile and a half away from your home?

I have a 14 year old son, and I can't get his ass to go walk (or ride a bike).  I was actually happy when he started hanging out with a girl because he'd walk to her house, which is about half a mile away.  Only time I'd pick him up was if he was there after dark, mainly because he tends to wear dark clothing and not all of the roads between there and here have sidewalks.

Certainly, it can't be because crime is worse now:  It was almost certainly far worse when you and I were kids.

And let me reiterate for all the farking morons:  I'm not saying any kid should have to walk 3.5 miles to school, but if it was just a mile and a half, I wouldn't care.  We don't have buses in our school district, and there are plenty of kids that age around here who walk half a mile or a mile to school.  And for those who don't, they actually have "Walk to School Wednesdays" to encourage them to do so:
http://www.wfaa.com/news/health/schoo​l​-practices-healthy-habits-with-walk-to​-school-wednesdays/477292430
(not my son's school district, but a similar program)
 
2018-02-14 10:01:43 AM  

Jim from Saint Paul: Get the damn bus there on time.


I don't disagree with this.
 
2018-02-14 10:02:25 AM  

eKonk: Wait... when the bus is late, shouldn't she still make it to school? Obviously she might be late (as well as every other kid on the bus), but she wouldn't be absent.


How long are you supposed to wait for the bus before you decide it might not be coming? The bus was supposed to arrive at 7:18 but in some cases it came after 8 o'clock. If I was waiting a while for the bus and I knew it might come late, 8am would probably be my cut-off before I went home. Actually I'd probably wouldn't even wait that long.
 
2018-02-14 10:08:07 AM  

lucksi: As I had to go to the next city for the equivalent of middle/high school, missing the bus meant waiting 20 to 30 minutes. No school busses here.

I always wonder why most of the US has no such public tranport system. It's not like the busses I took to school started at my house and ended at the school. Even had to change routes because there was no direct line.

I mean, it's not like you get a car once you leave school, no? People also have to go to work and stuff, so there is demand all through the day (after 9pm you were farked however, only a bus once every couple of hours in the best case and some lines simply stopped operating) so why do you have special busses only for kids?


Because in the USA, in all but the major Metropolitan areas, Public Transit is something only for the poor. Even in some of the large cities like Atlanta, public transit is looked down on as something only for the poor.

Combine that with light rail development being sabotaged in the early 20th century by Automotive Lobbyists, and you have a nation of people that are nearly required to have a personal vehicle to do anything.

/Offer void in New York City.
 
2018-02-14 10:08:41 AM  
GPS malfunction strangely sounds like body cam malfunction.

Are cops driving school buses now?
 
2018-02-14 10:10:25 AM  
If the bus missed one day, I would be calling the superintendent.
 
2018-02-14 10:11:43 AM  

Unobtanium: 16 other days are unaccounted for due to a "GPS malfunctioning" status.


The GPS units must be made by the same company that makes police body cams.
 
2018-02-14 10:14:16 AM  

gyorg: I like the part where the school first says "uh, we looked at the GPS and they prove it's not our problem" to which the news replied ".... so you're saying GPS records exist....".


Yep, and the problem goes away once that information is made public.

It's a miracle...

/the part about how the school finally sent transportation when they dropped the ball again was a nice touch... I'm sure they excused her for being late,
 
2018-02-14 10:14:44 AM  

aevorea: Plus, even if the shorter route was safe for walking, you know the "what about the children" crowd would call COS on them. Because , as we all know, kidnappers and pedophile rapists have an internal GPS that alerts them whenever a child dares to walk outside unaccompanied.


Yeah, well, that's a problem, but not in this case.

BTW, CPS is a scary, scary thing.  They've got some serious powers to really fark with you.  The distaffbopper and I used to do foster care, and we got a case where CPS pulled a kid from his mother for suspected abuse and neglect, and it turned out it was completely bullshiat, a family member had decided to take revenge on the mother for something (don't know and don't care what), and filed what was essentially a false report about mom beating up her kid.  CPS shows up, sees the kid has some bruises, immediately pulls the kid out of the home.  We get him, and it's immediately obvious why the kid has bruises:  He's a natural daredevil/athlete, climbing on top of stuff and jumping off it for fun (and occasionally falling in the process).  IIRC, he was about 2 years old.

Took mom a month of going to court to get him back, and she was on court-ordered supervision for at least a year, and worst of all her sister (the one who made the false accusation) was never prosecuted for filing a false report.

I don't blame CPS for that, it's not really their fault, but they have a built-in bias towards removing children from their parents, and the legal authority to do it immediately and to get court approval for it afterwards.  The court pretty much always rubber-stamps their actions.  And even if you do everything the court asks of you and it's shown that the accusations are baseless, it takes forever to get your kid back, and longer get back to a normal life.
 
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2018-02-14 10:15:01 AM  

dittybopper: Jim from Saint Paul: YMMV of course: There is zero chance my 8th grader is walking on her own for 1.5 miles, especially since it's not main roads. Like....ZERO.

Why is that?

No, seriously, I'm asking a question, setting aside the school issue, why wouldn't you let a 13 or 14 year old walk a mile and a half away from your home?

I have a 14 year old son, and I can't get his ass to go walk (or ride a bike).  I was actually happy when he started hanging out with a girl because he'd walk to her house, which is about half a mile away.  Only time I'd pick him up was if he was there after dark, mainly because he tends to wear dark clothing and not all of the roads between there and here have sidewalks.

Certainly, it can't be because crime is worse now:  It was almost certainly far worse when you and I were kids.

And let me reiterate for all the farking morons:  I'm not saying any kid should have to walk 3.5 miles to school, but if it was just a mile and a half, I wouldn't care.  We don't have buses in our school district, and there are plenty of kids that age around here who walk half a mile or a mile to school.  And for those who don't, they actually have "Walk to School Wednesdays" to encourage them to do so:
http://www.wfaa.com/news/health/school​-practices-healthy-habits-with-walk-to​-school-wednesdays/477292430
(not my son's school district, but a similar program)


My 13 year old has been walking a mile home from school for the past two years. I drive him to school in the morning to make sure he gets there on time but he can walk his butt home. Of course we live in an older town with square city blocks, sidewalks and neighborhood schools.
 
2018-02-14 10:15:27 AM  
Notice the school board employs the Iraqi spokesman method of lying right away about things which are verifiable through other sources.

The school spokesman says the bus is  never late. Records show that the bus is frequently very late. Spokesman says the bus is there every day. Records show a large number of days where there is no record of the bus stopping there. Spokesman says this is a GPS malfunction. Parents and kids say the bus never showed up. Despite claiming that everything is perfect, the spokesman also falls back on driver shortage and occasional use of a special shuttle.

According to the school system, you can pretty much set your watch by the daily arrival of the bus. It doesn't make sense why they would lie about a problem which needs to be solved.
 
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2018-02-14 10:17:33 AM  
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2018-02-14 10:17:50 AM  

dittybopper: Jim from Saint Paul: YMMV of course: There is zero chance my 8th grader is walking on her own for 1.5 miles, especially since it's not main roads. Like....ZERO.

Why is that?

No, seriously, I'm asking a question, setting aside the school issue, why wouldn't you let a 13 or 14 year old walk a mile and a half away from your home?

I have a 14 year old son, and I can't get his ass to go walk (or ride a bike).  I was actually happy when he started hanging out with a girl because he'd walk to her house, which is about half a mile away.  Only time I'd pick him up was if he was there after dark, mainly because he tends to wear dark clothing and not all of the roads between there and here have sidewalks.

Certainly, it can't be because crime is worse now:  It was almost certainly far worse when you and I were kids.

And let me reiterate for all the farking morons:  I'm not saying any kid should have to walk 3.5 miles to school, but if it was just a mile and a half, I wouldn't care.  We don't have buses in our school district, and there are plenty of kids that age around here who walk half a mile or a mile to school.  And for those who don't, they actually have "Walk to School Wednesdays" to encourage them to do so:
http://www.wfaa.com/news/health/school​-practices-healthy-habits-with-walk-to​-school-wednesdays/477292430
(not my son's school district, but a similar program)


Either overprotective, or he lives in Beirut. one or the other.
 
2018-02-14 10:22:21 AM  
/CSB
My son who is in 6th grade caught his bus driver (who he says curses and runs red lights) texting while driving. School & bus company said impossible because the bus cameras would have caught him. When we emailed the video my son took of him doing it, my son got in trouble for having a cell phone on the bus even though there are no rules against it. They said his under cover filming could be a distraction to the driver. Me: you mean while is texting and driving type of distraction?
Bus driver got put on another  route and we found out there are no cameras on the buses, only dummy boxes
 
2018-02-14 10:24:10 AM  

Bedstead Polisher: eKonk: Wait... when the bus is late, shouldn't she still make it to school? Obviously she might be late (as well as every other kid on the bus), but she wouldn't be absent.

How long are you supposed to wait for the bus before you decide it might not be coming? The bus was supposed to arrive at 7:18 but in some cases it came after 8 o'clock. If I was waiting a while for the bus and I knew it might come late, 8am would probably be my cut-off before I went home. Actually I'd probably wouldn't even wait that long.


Good point. When I was a kid the bus picked me up at my house, so it was no big deal if it was 15-20 minutes late (I don't recall it ever being much worse than that). If I had to walk to a bus stop, particularly in bad weather, I doubt I'd have been willing to wait that long.
 
2018-02-14 10:26:02 AM  

lucksi: As I had to go to the next city for the equivalent of middle/high school, missing the bus meant waiting 20 to 30 minutes. No school busses here.

I always wonder why most of the US has no such public tranport system. It's not like the busses I took to school started at my house and ended at the school. Even had to change routes because there was no direct line.

I mean, it's not like you get a car once you leave school, no? People also have to go to work and stuff, so there is demand all through the day (after 9pm you were farked however, only a bus once every couple of hours in the best case and some lines simply stopped operating) so why do you have special busses only for kids?


How many days does it take to drive across your country?
 
2018-02-14 10:26:26 AM  

eagles95: /CSB

Bus driver got put on another  route and we found out there are no cameras on the buses, only dummy boxes


That's exactly why I place my own cameras on all the local buses in my neighborhood.
 
2018-02-14 10:29:17 AM  

dittybopper: OK, so because I'm funny that way, I decided to find out how far away the school is from the the bus stop.  Here is a Google Maps of the possible walking routes:

https://www.google.com/maps/dir/37.488​3369,-77.5418602/37.4929594,-77.514501​7/[[nospam-﹫-backwards] image 7x13]73[* image 7x13]4868556,-77.5414525,14z/data=!4m2​!4m1!3e2

It kind of sucks, because she's only about 1.5 miles away from the school as the crow flies, but if you stay on the roads and don't cut through the power-line right of way and through some private property, the shortest distance is 3.5 miles.

That 1.5 miles is about how far away my school was when I was in 5th grade, and when I missed the bus "accidentally on purpose" a couple of times, my parents made me walk to school instead of driving me.  So if she had a good path that length, I'd be like "Meh, let her walk".  It'd be good exercise and it would probably take about the same time as the bus ride (probably 30 minutes).

But 3.5 miles is probably too much, as it would take something over an hour.


Probably also something to be said for "one day once in a while" vs. "15-30 times in a few months". At that point I'd be getting pretty sick of "meh, let her walk" when other kids' buses are on time and maybe it's cold out.

dittybopper: Jim from Saint Paul: YMMV of course: There is zero chance my 8th grader is walking on her own for 1.5 miles, especially since it's not main roads. Like....ZERO.

Why is that?

No, seriously, I'm asking a question, setting aside the school issue, why wouldn't you let a 13 or 14 year old walk a mile and a half away from your home?

I have a 14 year old son


I only have a son, but I can't deny that I would probably treat a 13-yo daughter differently than a boy. But weird stuff happens:
http://www.news-gazette.com/news/local​/2018-01-23/champaign-police-investiga​ting-alleged-child-abduction-attempt.h​tml

This was in my town a couple weeks ago and it's happened a few times over the last few months. I have the impression that you've got a bit more of a rural location/lifestyle?, but depending on what you have to walk through for that 1.5 miles there are some bad urban places around my home for a kid to walk alone. But around my actual home I wouldn't worry much for them for a few miles.

Basically location/location/location.
 
2018-02-14 10:33:50 AM  

SBinRR: Sounds like all the members of the school board and the front office administration need to get a CDL and be stand-by bus drivers until they can maintain a staffed team of drivers.


I work in the industry here in Wisconsin and most of my customers do just this. Even owners are driving routes.

Bus driver shortage is a huge problem here. Testing is becoming more strict. Baby boomers that fill these jobs are getting too old and the hours are funky. Even a lot of the mechanics I deal with are driving routes morning and afternoon. Hard to maintain a fleet when you're out of the shop 3 hours a day. A lot of them are offering sign on bonuses and a pretty good hourly wage and still can't find drivers.
 
2018-02-14 10:34:52 AM  

akya: Unobtanium: 16 other days are unaccounted for due to a "GPS malfunctioning" status.

The GPS units must be made by the same company that makes police body cams.


Depending on how they are wired and mounted, the driver could be unplugging the antenna, or the power. If the GPS is tied into the ECM, then the J1292 wiring bus has a connector.
In the early days of Qualcomm on commercial trucks, a galvanized metal pail on the antenna was the Q&D method.
These days, even if you aren't paying for it as an accessory, many commercial vehicles have GPS and telemetry back to the manufacturer. They can do a software update to your ECM at will. They can tell you about performance, impending failure, and maintenance due.
As for school buses, I think Miami-Dade County lets families track the school bus online; they can send the kids out right before the bus gets there instead of having to stay out for a delayed bus.
 
2018-02-14 10:35:23 AM  

Jim from Saint Paul: YMMV of course: There is zero chance my 8th grader is walking on her own for 1.5 miles, especially since it's not main roads.


That sounds very restricted for a 13 year old. Des she not want to or will you not let her?

I was walking 1.5 miles to school, including three major road crossings, from the age of eight. If anyone did abduct and rape me, I have suppressed the memories very effectively.
 
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