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2018-02-13 02:05:50 PM  

HAMMERTOE: Pazuzu Smith-Jones: Three points:

1) ...

Fourth Point: Reverse time-travel is a physical impossibility. Forward time-travel is a fact; we're all doing it right now at a nominal 1:1 rate.

Picture two typical film projectors pointed at the same screen (that screen representing physical "reality".) Both projectors are set up to display a single object, be it a person, or a simple rubber ball, both beginning at a specific point in time.. The difference: one projector will project the "natural" sequence of events (time running forward.) The second projector will project the "reverse" sequence of events, (time running backward.) A random "starting point" is selected, and both projectors are synchronized, simulating the exact instant reverse time-travel would begin. During the very first attosecond, both projectors will show the object occupying the same point in space. Two of the same object, occupying the same point in space, is a paradox. Even if the object were travelling at the speed of light, a sufficiently thin slice of time will still produce the same paradox of one forward-travelling object and one backward-travelling object occupying the same point.  Unlike the more jovial thought exercise of considering "becoming your own father", I suspect that this more essential sort of paradox might result in some sort of matter/ anti-matter reaction between the two objects, each given a sort of "temporal polarity" by their direction of time travel.

Does this make sense?


 According to couple of doctors, it's a paradox.
 
2018-02-13 02:09:09 PM  

Klom Dark: HAMMERTOE: Pazuzu Smith-Jones: Three points:

1) ...

Fourth Point: Reverse time-travel is a physical impossibility. Forward time-travel is a fact; we're all doing it right now at a nominal 1:1 rate.

Picture two typical film projectors pointed at the same screen (that screen representing physical "reality".) Both projectors are set up to display a single object, be it a person, or a simple rubber ball, both beginning at a specific point in time.. The difference: one projector will project the "natural" sequence of events (time running forward.) The second projector will project the "reverse" sequence of events, (time running backward.) A random "starting point" is selected, and both projectors are synchronized, simulating the exact instant reverse time-travel would begin. During the very first attosecond, both projectors will show the object occupying the same point in space. Two of the same object, occupying the same point in space, is a paradox. Even if the object were travelling at the speed of light, a sufficiently thin slice of time will still produce the same paradox of one forward-travelling object and one backward-travelling object occupying the same point.  Unlike the more jovial thought exercise of considering "becoming your own father", I suspect that this more essential sort of paradox might result in some sort of matter/ anti-matter reaction between the two objects, each given a sort of "temporal polarity" by their direction of time travel.

Does this make sense?

 According to couple of doctors, it's a paradox.


One of the major problems encountered in time travel is not that of becoming your own father or mother. There is no problem in becoming your own father or mother that a broad-minded and well-adjusted family can't cope with. There is no problem with changing the course of history-the course of history does not change because it all fits together like a jigsaw. All the important changes have happened before the things they were supposed to change and it all sorts itself out in the end.

The major problem is simply one of grammar, and the main work to consult in this matter is Dr. Dan Streetmentioner's Time Traveler's Handbook of 1001 Tense Formations. It will tell you, for instance, how to describe something that was about to happen to you in the past before you avoided it by time-jumping forward two days in order to avoid it. The event will be descibed differently according to whether you are talking about it from the standpoint of your own natural time, from a time in the further future, or a time in the further past and is futher complicated by the possibility of conducting conversations while you are actually traveling from one time to another with the intention of becoming your own mother or father.

Most readers get as far as the Future Semiconditionally Modified Subinverted Plagal Past Subjunctive Intentional before giving up; and in fact in later editions of the book all pages beyond this point have been left blank to save on printing costs.
 
2018-02-13 02:09:21 PM  
I've always wondered how a time traveler would actually end up on the earth's surface after moving forward or backward in time? Since the earth is both rotating at approx 1000 mph and orbiting the sun at approx. 67,000 mph, and our solar system itself is moving at approx. 514,000 mph, seems any movement through time would find your ass floating in space.
 
2018-02-13 02:10:44 PM  

Sword and Shield: beezeltown: Question him about memories of 1988-1992. He should have been "coming of age" then. This moron was born probably between 1992-1995.

-tell me about the Nintendo glove
-"stop, collaborate and ____"
-duck hunt dog did what when you missed?
-the "Berlin Wall theme" was sung by which group?
Etc, etc...

You mean the Power Glove? I had one- hard as hell to use.
Listen.
Laughed.
Beats me.

Hell, I was born in 82 and don't remember the last.


#4 - Pink Floyd??
 
2018-02-13 02:11:46 PM  
Hmm seems like Matterhorn beat me to the point. Good show.
 
2018-02-13 02:15:38 PM  
So many girls from the old days that I'd want to see.
 
2018-02-13 02:16:36 PM  

Salmon: So many girls from the old days that I'd want to see.


and which one's to avoid (wink)
 
2018-02-13 02:21:41 PM  

beezeltown: Question him about memories of 1988-1992. He should have been "coming of age" then. This moron was born probably between 1992-1995.

I was in high school during these years, so here goes...

-tell me about the Nintendo glove - NO CLUE what you're talking about.  Now ask me about t.v. shows popular at that time, and I might be able to help you.
-"stop, collaborate and ____" - LISTEN.  (Because Ice is back, ya know).
-duck hunt dog did what when you missed? - Snickered at you.  Stoopid dog.
-the "Berlin Wall theme" was sung by which group? - The Berlin Wall had its own theme song?  How did I not know this??
Etc, etc...

You need to work on these questions.  I couldn't answer half of them and I'm from this timeline!
 
2018-02-13 02:28:00 PM  
Dimensional Distortion of Odd Order Harmonics Within Time Travel
The 11th dimension is bound by three general forces of which two are the 6th dimension and one is the breakdown of individual nonelastic motion particles which co-exist within a celebrant ultra-universe.  The order of odd harmonics involves increases in magnitude of the second amplification factor while it crosses the NP junction. That is to say for example, while taking two scissors and trying to parallel their cutting edges, these will no doubt find a central point that is mutual or greater than an infinite edge. Likewise, the ultra-universes are in cohabitation along with a duo Decca sharpness of light gathering in the lower sub-atomic extremities of negative obsolesced quirks. Now then, the opposing 6th dimension alternates its bio trajectory to impose a spiral phenomena altarpiece in relation to bipedal anomalies. Passing between the past and the future, the edges of the space time fabric blur together.  There is a finite moment when the odd order harmonic equalizes a centripetally exposed frequency. This frequency is 1.7 times its angular velocity expressed as a vector who's rate of transmission is meters per anon-seconds inducing weightlessness which is sustained during its duration.  This causes the gravitation pull to subside for the duration of the harmonic.  An example of simple factors are existent and exiting the earth's gravitational void.  This process can also be simplified by gaining momentum first.  The big factor of the dimensional distortion is now relevant to the second amplification factor. During this time, the amplification factor distorts into an even multiple of the ultra-universe allowing for indiscriminate time travel.
 
2018-02-13 02:36:56 PM  
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Maybe he's reached his limit of time leaps?
 
2018-02-13 02:37:42 PM  

ceejayoz: Pazuzu Smith-Jones: 1) There is no such thing as a "Lie Detector." Polygraph machines don't "detect lies."

So much this. Their primary purpose is to be misunderstood by subjects who think they work and wind up confessing since they think they'll be found out.


So nobody else is bringing Bunk and the "lie detector"? Really? "The bigger the lie, the more they believe."

The Wire - Bunk's interrogation techniques
Youtube rN7pkFNEg5c
 
2018-02-13 02:51:01 PM  

Oh-Blonde-One: beezeltown: Question him about memories of 1988-1992. He should have been "coming of age" then. This moron was born probably between 1992-1995.
I was in high school during these years, so here goes...

-tell me about the Nintendo glove - NO CLUE what you're talking about.  Now ask me about t.v. shows popular at that time, and I might be able to help you.
-"stop, collaborate and ____" - LISTEN.  (Because Ice is back, ya know).
-duck hunt dog did what when you missed? - Snickered at you.  Stoopid dog.
-the "Berlin Wall theme" was sung by which group? - The Berlin Wall had its own theme song?  How did I not know this??
Etc, etc...

You need to work on these questions.  I couldn't answer half of them and I'm from this timeline!


The Berlin wall one...sorry. "winds of change" by the Scorpions. That farking song played for at least two years straight.
 
2018-02-13 02:53:14 PM  

Oh-Blonde-One: beezeltown: Question him about memories of 1988-1992. He should have been "coming of age" then. This moron was born probably between 1992-1995.
I was in high school during these years, so here goes...

-tell me about the Nintendo glove - NO CLUE what you're talking about.  Now ask me about t.v. shows popular at that time, and I might be able to help you.
-"stop, collaborate and ____" - LISTEN.  (Because Ice is back, ya know).
-duck hunt dog did what when you missed? - Snickered at you.  Stoopid dog.
-the "Berlin Wall theme" was sung by which group? - The Berlin Wall had its own theme song?  How did I not know this??
Etc, etc...

You need to work on these questions.  I couldn't answer half of them and I'm from this timeline!


#4 - Scorpions - Winds Of Change.
Play 02 21 34 43 44 with the Powerball of 12.
You are welcome.
 
2018-02-13 02:57:28 PM  

Oh-Blonde-One: beezeltown: Question him about memories of 1988-1992. He should have been "coming of age" then. This moron was born probably between 1992-1995.
I was in high school during these years, so here goes...

-tell me about the Nintendo glove - NO CLUE what you're talking about.  Now ask me about t.v. shows popular at that time, and I might be able to help you.
-"stop, collaborate and ____" - LISTEN.  (Because Ice is back, ya know).
-duck hunt dog did what when you missed? - Snickered at you.  Stoopid dog.
-the "Berlin Wall theme" was sung by which group? - The Berlin Wall had its own theme song?  How did I not know this??
Etc, etc...

You need to work on these questions.  I couldn't answer half of them and I'm from this timeline!


The Nintendo glove...a very much hyped must-have for Christmas about 1990 or so. Supposed to be cool..turned out to be a complete piece of shiat gimmick. 10-12 year old boys in that era definitely knew about the glove, and were universally disappointed by it.
 
2018-02-13 03:00:41 PM  

Wine Sipping Elitist: guestguy: OldRod: Deep Contact: darthstormer: darkeyes: I assume he changed the timeline by coming back so everything he knows is irrelevant now.

Depends.  Are we talking Back to the Future rules?  Or Twelve Monkeys rules?

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Probably "Primer" rules

Damnit, I'd better start recording my conversations...

I hate the 'spelling' of the word 'damnit'. It's either two words, damn it, or one word spelled dammit.

I get why it's done. I simply hate looking at it.

https://www.google.com/search?q=define​+damnit

/Sorry not sorry
//Not a game


Goddamnitsomuchsonofabiatchbastard
 
2018-02-13 03:09:13 PM  

beezeltown: Oh-Blonde-One: beezeltown: Question him about memories of 1988-1992. He should have been "coming of age" then. This moron was born probably between 1992-1995.
I was in high school during these years, so here goes...

-tell me about the Nintendo glove - NO CLUE what you're talking about.  Now ask me about t.v. shows popular at that time, and I might be able to help you.
-"stop, collaborate and ____" - LISTEN.  (Because Ice is back, ya know).
-duck hunt dog did what when you missed? - Snickered at you.  Stoopid dog.
-the "Berlin Wall theme" was sung by which group? - The Berlin Wall had its own theme song?  How did I not know this??
Etc, etc...

You need to work on these questions.  I couldn't answer half of them and I'm from this timeline!

The Berlin wall one...sorry. "winds of change" by the Scorpions. That farking song played for at least two years straight.


Dang it!
My calculations were off by 2 minutes.
Let me try again...
 
2018-02-13 03:12:28 PM  
Fake news.
If this was real, the time traveler would prevent Trump from wining in 2020.
 
2018-02-13 03:15:22 PM  

Adebisi: Klom Dark: HAMMERTOE: Pazuzu Smith-Jones: Three points:

1) ...

Fourth Point: Reverse time-travel is a physical impossibility. Forward time-travel is a fact; we're all doing it right now at a nominal 1:1 rate.

Picture two typical film projectors pointed at the same screen (that screen representing physical "reality".) Both projectors are set up to display a single object, be it a person, or a simple rubber ball, both beginning at a specific point in time.. The difference: one projector will project the "natural" sequence of events (time running forward.) The second projector will project the "reverse" sequence of events, (time running backward.) A random "starting point" is selected, and both projectors are synchronized, simulating the exact instant reverse time-travel would begin. During the very first attosecond, both projectors will show the object occupying the same point in space. Two of the same object, occupying the same point in space, is a paradox. Even if the object were travelling at the speed of light, a sufficiently thin slice of time will still produce the same paradox of one forward-travelling object and one backward-travelling object occupying the same point.  Unlike the more jovial thought exercise of considering "becoming your own father", I suspect that this more essential sort of paradox might result in some sort of matter/ anti-matter reaction between the two objects, each given a sort of "temporal polarity" by their direction of time travel.

Does this make sense?

 According to couple of doctors, it's a paradox.

One of the major problems encountered in time travel is not that of becoming your own father or mother. There is no problem in becoming your own father or mother that a broad-minded and well-adjusted family can't cope with. There is no problem with changing the course of history-the course of history does not change because it all fits together like a jigsaw. All the important changes have happened before the things they were suppos ...


That reads like the beginning of a chapter in a Douglas Adams' book.
 
2018-02-13 03:15:42 PM  

vudukungfu: This is a repeat from three weeks in the future.


Last post
/pppbbbhhhhttttttttttt
 
2018-02-13 03:16:10 PM  

beezeltown: Oh-Blonde-One: beezeltown: Question him about memories of 1988-1992. He should have been "coming of age" then. This moron was born probably between 1992-1995.
I was in high school during these years, so here goes...

-tell me about the Nintendo glove - NO CLUE what you're talking about.  Now ask me about t.v. shows popular at that time, and I might be able to help you.
-"stop, collaborate and ____" - LISTEN.  (Because Ice is back, ya know).
-duck hunt dog did what when you missed? - Snickered at you.  Stoopid dog.
-the "Berlin Wall theme" was sung by which group? - The Berlin Wall had its own theme song?  How did I not know this??
Etc, etc...

You need to work on these questions.  I couldn't answer half of them and I'm from this timeline!

The Nintendo glove...a very much hyped must-have for Christmas about 1990 or so. Supposed to be cool..turned out to be a complete piece of shiat gimmick. 10-12 year old boys in that era definitely knew about the glove, and were universally disappointed by it.


Everyone remembers the Power Glove, probably because of that movie, but the world seems to have forgotten the Uforce.

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The craziest thing about the Uforce is that it actually worked.
 
2018-02-13 03:19:59 PM  

Yaw String: I've always wondered how a time traveler would actually end up on the earth's surface after moving forward or backward in time? Since the earth is both rotating at approx 1000 mph and orbiting the sun at approx. 67,000 mph, and our solar system itself is moving at approx. 514,000 mph, seems any movement through time would find your ass floating in space.


That's all programed into the time displacement warp coil.
 
2018-02-13 03:30:00 PM  

beezeltown: Oh-Blonde-One: beezeltown: Question him about memories of 1988-1992. He should have been "coming of age" then. This moron was born probably between 1992-1995.
I was in high school during these years, so here goes...

-tell me about the Nintendo glove - NO CLUE what you're talking about.  Now ask me about t.v. shows popular at that time, and I might be able to help you.
-"stop, collaborate and ____" - LISTEN.  (Because Ice is back, ya know).
-duck hunt dog did what when you missed? - Snickered at you.  Stoopid dog.
-the "Berlin Wall theme" was sung by which group? - The Berlin Wall had its own theme song?  How did I not know this??
Etc, etc...

You need to work on these questions.  I couldn't answer half of them and I'm from this timeline!

The Berlin wall one...sorry. "winds of change" by the Scorpions. That farking song played for at least two years straight.


Ahhhh. THAT song. I think I'd blocked it from my memory.
And now I'll hear it playing everywhere I go for the next month.
 
2018-02-13 03:33:28 PM  

beezeltown: Oh-Blonde-One: beezeltown: Question him about memories of 1988-1992. He should have been "coming of age" then. This moron was born probably between 1992-1995.
I was in high school during these years, so here goes...

-tell me about the Nintendo glove - NO CLUE what you're talking about.  Now ask me about t.v. shows popular at that time, and I might be able to help you.
-"stop, collaborate and ____" - LISTEN.  (Because Ice is back, ya know).
-duck hunt dog did what when you missed? - Snickered at you.  Stoopid dog.
-the "Berlin Wall theme" was sung by which group? - The Berlin Wall had its own theme song?  How did I not know this??
Etc, etc...

You need to work on these questions.  I couldn't answer half of them and I'm from this timeline!

The Nintendo glove...a very much hyped must-have for Christmas about 1990 or so. Supposed to be cool..turned out to be a complete piece of shiat gimmick. 10-12 year old boys in that era definitely knew about the glove, and were universally disappointed by it.


I was too old (and too much a typical teenage girl) to care about that, but my brother probably begged for one.  The only toy I remember HAVING TO HAVE was a Cabbage Patch Kid (1982 or so).
 
2018-02-13 03:43:14 PM  

Wine Sipping Elitist: guestguy: OldRod: Deep Contact: darthstormer: darkeyes: I assume he changed the timeline by coming back so everything he knows is irrelevant now.

Depends.  Are we talking Back to the Future rules?  Or Twelve Monkeys rules?

[78.media.tumblr.com image 500x318]

Probably "Primer" rules

Damnit, I'd better start recording my conversations...

I hate the 'spelling' of the word 'damnit'. It's either two words, damn it, or one word spelled dammit.

I get why it's done. I simply hate looking at it.

https://www.google.com/search?q=define​+damnit

/Sorry not sorry
//Not a game


If your levee has lice, they might leave damnits.
 
2018-02-13 04:06:20 PM  

aseras: I passed every polygraph i ever had to take for my security clearance. I'm immortal, I'm superman and I'm batman too. Never lost any of my clearances.

after 3 straight, i never had to do another test, but everyone else did.


Did you answer every question truthfully?
 
2018-02-13 04:16:53 PM  

give me doughnuts: Come on, people!
We're got a "Barney Miller" trifecta in play, so make it happen!


I'm thinking more like the ending to Night Court. When the aliens came to take Bull away.

Maybe there really are aliens and time travelers and stuff like that. But I don't think we will read about it in the papers. The funny papers, maybe.

or rollng papers.
 
2018-02-13 04:17:28 PM  

Danger Mouse: aseras: I passed every polygraph i ever had to take for my security clearance. I'm immortal, I'm superman and I'm batman too. Never lost any of my clearances.

after 3 straight, i never had to do another test, but everyone else did.

Did you answer every question truthfully?


should I?
 
2018-02-13 04:19:35 PM  

OOF: [img.fark.net image 182x277]


He never went to Castleton!
 
2018-02-13 04:31:50 PM  

Pazuzu Smith-Jones: 3) None of his "revelations" is much of a stretch.


For me, that was the oddest most unusual aspect of the story.
 
2018-02-13 04:32:23 PM  

Altoid: Adebisi: Klom Dark: HAMMERTOE: Pazuzu Smith-Jones: Three points:

1) ...

Fourth Point: Reverse time-travel is a physical impossibility. Forward time-travel is a fact; we're all doing it right now at a nominal 1:1 rate.

Picture two typical film projectors pointed at the same screen (that screen representing physical "reality".) Both projectors are set up to display a single object, be it a person, or a simple rubber ball, both beginning at a specific point in time.. The difference: one projector will project the "natural" sequence of events (time running forward.) The second projector will project the "reverse" sequence of events, (time running backward.) A random "starting point" is selected, and both projectors are synchronized, simulating the exact instant reverse time-travel would begin. During the very first attosecond, both projectors will show the object occupying the same point in space. Two of the same object, occupying the same point in space, is a paradox. Even if the object were travelling at the speed of light, a sufficiently thin slice of time will still produce the same paradox of one forward-travelling object and one backward-travelling object occupying the same point.  Unlike the more jovial thought exercise of considering "becoming your own father", I suspect that this more essential sort of paradox might result in some sort of matter/ anti-matter reaction between the two objects, each given a sort of "temporal polarity" by their direction of time travel.

Does this make sense?

 According to couple of doctors, it's a paradox.

One of the major problems encountered in time travel is not that of becoming your own father or mother. There is no problem in becoming your own father or mother that a broad-minded and well-adjusted family can't cope with. There is no problem with changing the course of history-the course of history does not change because it all fits together like a jigsaw. All the important changes have happened before the things they were suppos ...

That reads like the beginning of a chapter in a Douglas Adams' book.


That's probably because it wioll haven be.
 
2018-02-13 04:36:52 PM  
A confused incarnate with partial memories of futures past.

It happens.
 
2018-02-13 05:03:02 PM  
He doesn't seem to be taking any risks with his predictions. And it is well known that a lot of people can pass a "lie detector" test, including people who believe the crap they are saying, such as DJT.

The riskiest prediction seems to be that pennies will still be in use in 2030. Canada has already abandoned pennies and either the UK or the USA could do so soon even if they are more conservative about such things.

Trump could win in 2020. His impeachment is not a fore-gone concluion and even if impeached he could continue to hold office--Clinton did. Unless he is charged with something that will send him to jail, he might make it to 2020 without being impeached and continue to hold office well into a second term.

Then again, he is the oldest US President, probably the only reluctant and unprepared one, and he could die of natural causes, which in his case includes being Nuked by North Korea, some other enemy, or a friendly power, possibly his own government.

NOW THAT WOULD BE A PREDICTION TO BRING TO US FROM THE FUTURE!

US Military Nukes Florida Golf Course and stages anti-Trump coup!

Don't hold your breath. But the kid has some good ideas, as hoaxers often do. Do try to invest more in clean energy and fighting climate change. You obviously can't count o Bushes, Trumps or even Clintons and Obamas to do a lot.

Under Bill Clinton US energy use per $1million of goods and services declined by 18%. Which is about what Obama promised, meaning his goals were somewhat unambitious, consisting of what business and consumers chose to do spoontaneously to save money. and make more profits. There's still a lot of cheap or free gains to be made--one little slice at a time. There are also a lot of things we can do which will cost money, starting at very low costs and easy things to give up, and ranging up to $200 a tonne or more.

China has promised 25% cuts as they modernize their energy production and use, not to mention manufacturing, etc. And they are delivering because their ambitions are small and hard to avoid as well.

But do your best to help and not hinder progress towards a carbon-free economy and an end to pollution and waste.
 
2018-02-13 05:03:40 PM  

Pazuzu Smith-Jones: Three points:

1) There is no such thing as a "Lie Detector." Polygraph machines don't "detect lies."

2) It's not a lie if YOU believe it.

3) None of his "revelations" is much of a stretch.


This.  "Lie detectors", or more properly "Polygraph machines", mostly measure unconscious responses to stress; they are considered so unreliable that they can no longer be admitted into court testimony.

And to add to the list:

4) Polygraphs can be defeated either by keeping a constant stress response OR by persons who suffer a delusion such that they have utterly convinced themselves a falsehood is truth.  (The "squirming" could in fact be a method of constantly producing a baseline stress level such that the stress produced by lying is, well, diluted by background noise.)

5) Technically what they were doing with that guy wasn't even a polygraph test, but (based on the vids) something far closer to the "E-Meters" in Scientology (which are simple skin resistance meters, and are hilariously gameable by the amount of  salt one has on skin; I've known folks to actively troll Scientologists this way in those "free readings"). Actual polygraph tests are not read until after a full question session, including things like "Is your name (foo)" and other mundane questions to establish a baseline, and are generally read as probability that a statement is false.

6) Pretty much the only two methods known to verify whether someone is actually lying involve either an exam when someone is in a PET scanner (and the brain is being scanned, in live time, with someone watching for increased activity in the brain in those parts of the brain associated with deliberate lying) or Lying Cats.  Lying Cats, unfortunately, do not exist outside of fiction; PET scanners are generally not available outside of research hospitals, and are probably defeatable if someone is so thoroughly convinced of a delusion internally that they see it as truth (and in any case these may not work so well with persons who are psychotic).

7) If we want to get into a Physics Argument--assuming the fellow COULD actually go back in time at all--technically the very act of going back in time and attempting to influence the future would cause a causality violation, and (at least according to some interpretations of quantum physics) would in and of itself be enough to cause a timeline split where the events of the future in this timeline are actually different.  (Science fiction has played with this concept a lot, to the point that the trope of the grandfather paradox exists; the many-worlds interpretation (in which the act of going back in time would be sufficient to create a separate timeline) has been played with a lot too, even in friggin' Pokemon as of late.)

7) There is, as of yet, no proof that time travel is possible in the backwards direction (there are theoretical calculations in quantum mechanics and Einstein's equations that allow for it, but involving conditions that are likely nonsurvivable for humans or most matter-based beings :D).  There's even question whether closed time-like loops (that is, basically a worldline that goes in a loop) are even possible based on the actual physical conditions of the universe; the few interpretations of quantum physics that allow for time travel actually involve (more properly) contact between different universes resulting from a timeline split.  (I will also note we've not found solid proof yet of the validity of the many-worlds interpretation of physics, though proofs are being worked on.)

In other words, kids...the likelihood this guy is from TEH FUTURE (even TEH FUTURE of another universe) is about as likely as the homeless schizophrenic fellow at the bus stop actually having had a laser implanted into his butt by the CIA which is controlled by AM talk radio.
 
2018-02-13 05:08:40 PM  

zepillin: A confused incarnate with partial memories of futures past.

It happens.


Wait, I saw this movie. This is the one where Wolverine goes back to the 60s to kill Tyrion Lannister and the robot David is there?
 
2018-02-13 05:19:32 PM  

vudukungfu: This is a repeat from three weeks in the future.


I see this has just sort of been covered, but shouldn't that be

This wioll haven been a repeat...?
 
2018-02-13 05:33:25 PM  

Adebisi: That reads like the beginning of a chapter in a Douglas Adams' book.


That's probably because it wioll haven be.


I am actually embarrassed that I did not recognize it as exactly what it was.
 
2018-02-13 05:33:32 PM  

Great Porn Dragon: 7) If we want to get into a Physics Argument--assuming the fellow COULD actually go back in time at all--technically the very act of going back in time and attempting to influence the future would cause a causality violation, and (at least according to some interpretations of quantum physics) would in and of itself be enough to cause a timeline split where the events of the future in this timeline are actually different.


The time traveling electron theory allows for time-travel, but not paradoxes. A deterministic universe falls out of it.
 
2018-02-13 06:12:05 PM  
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2018-02-13 06:21:33 PM  

Gleeman: You don't want to run into yourself while time traveling, it's very awkward.


Only for the self in the present. The future self already knows what happened.
 
2018-02-13 06:29:20 PM  

Altoid: Adebisi: That reads like the beginning of a chapter in a Douglas Adams' book.


That's probably because it wioll haven be.

I am actually embarrassed that I did not recognize it as exactly what it was.


Don't panic. You're still a hoopy frood.
 
2018-02-13 06:39:52 PM  

StrikitRich: [img.fark.net image 675x275]

Also unimpressed.


I need to get my ass watching season two. :(
 
2018-02-13 06:40:31 PM  

jayessell: Hey Time Travelers of 2030...

Build a self contained device able to record the Analog Television Signals of the late 1940s to the mid 1960s.
You'll probably need a 10P Hard Drive or whatever it is you use.
Go to 1945 and hide it in the Empire State building.
(A few walls had to be repaired after that Bomber ran into it. Put it inside one.)
In 2031 remove it.
(You removed it after you put it in. No Paradox.)
Copy the more popular and interesting shows to old fashioned VHS tapes that you purchased in the 1980s.
(You sold the tapes after you purchased them. No Paradox)
Repeat using DVDs.
Repeat using flash drives.


Addendum to this: Enterprising time travellers in NYC wouldn't even need to do up to 1960 for proof of time travel.  Focus on 441 line television from 1940-1941 (none of which has been preserved) and focus after 1945 or so on broadcasts from DuMont Television Network from 1946 to 1956.

Considering that practically the entire DuMont Television Network library was destroyed in 1970--about the only shows that appeared on DuMont that have survived in their entirety are The Honeymooners and The John Hopkins Science Review, in both cases because production companies kept tapes--merely having video of surviving DuMont shows is going to be proof positive of successful time travel.  Hell, having a single farking episode of Cash and Carry (first TV game show on DuMont, no surviving episodes exist) or the full run of Captain Video and his Video Rangers (one of first bits of TV programming done for kids, ran from 1949-1955, only 24 episodes are known to have survived) or the DuMont runs of The Original Amateur Hour from 1946-1949 (one of the first major TV hit shows, none of the DuMont episodes have survived) or more than four episodes of the DuMont run of The Eddie Kovacs Show (only a single episode and three partials have survived from the 1954-1955 run on DuMont) would be proof in and of itself of time travel--all they'd have to do is have a 525-line NTSC receiving rig recording WABD channel 5 :D

For bonus points: Pretty much a verifiable full run of any of the shows on this list dating before 1955, but especially:

a) Going to London and recording an original recording in 405-line format of the original 1955 broadcast of The Quatermass Experiment (this would DEFINITELY suffice--not even the BBC has a surviving tape or kinescope of this, as this was one of the first shows the BBC tried to telerecord and it went so poorly the attempt was abandoned after the first two episodes)
b) Going to London and recording the original 11 February 1938 broadcast of R.U.R. or in fact any pre-war BBC broadcasting in 405 line format, particularly the live recording of the coronation of King George VI or the full run of Vanity Fair (yes, as in what was probably the first regular series on fashion ever broadcast, yes, named for the magazine; the series dates from 1939).  No pre-war broadcasting in the 405 line format has survived; in fact, the only pre-war broadcasting that has survived in the UK are some old phonograph recordings (yes, seriously!) of experimental broadcasts in Baird mechanical 30-line format dating from the early thirties.  (Telerecording did not become common at the BBC until the mid-50s, and pretty much almost all programming before 1953 was live and was never recorded in any format.)
c) Verifiable recordings of any live television show produced before 1947 outside of Nazi Germany.  (In general, Nazi Germany used telefilm--recording to film via camera and then broadcasting the film.  The British did prewar electronic format broadcasting from 1936-1939 in 405 line format (which survived until the 90s) and only a telecine recording of sporadic E skip reception exists; no examples exist of the early 455 line service in France; likewise almost nothing exists of the 441 line standard in use in the US before 1941 (which used the now-defunct channel 1, and which was the first commercial TV broadcasting in the world).  That last link, of note, includes a convenient broadcast schedule for time travelers who want to record some real television history that is now lost :D

For extra bonus points--if the time traveller is feeling particularly brave and wants to risk being in the Blitz: Get the full recordings of the closedown of BBC Television on 1 September 1939 and the restart of transmissions in 1946. :D  There's an AWFUL lot of mythology surrounding those two, and no actual recordings of the final broadcast and restart of broadcasting exist.

If the time traveller is not feeling quite so brave (or confident re the survivability of his equipment), they might try some BBC programmes in London dating from pre-telerecording era known to be lost.  Some are fairly...mundane (like The Care Of Your Car dating from 1947, arguably the first "backyard mechanic" show) whilst some are significant but lost (like Don't Look Now which aired in 1950, or the first known television production of Sherlock Holmes which was a live teleplay in 1951)

So the time travelers need to get to it :D  Come on, the broadcast archives are depending on YOU :D
 
2018-02-13 07:26:40 PM  

special20: Fake news.
If this was real, the time traveler would prevent Trump from wining in 2020.


Trump may be the consequence. A proverbial wake up call to the American people to stop voting party lines and actually consider WHO they are voting for and why. It's his purpose to fail and screw the country so hard that it changes the future and facilitates major cultural and societal change.
 
2018-02-13 07:39:36 PM  
If it's not Art Bell's Time Traveler's open line, then it is simply not true.

In another timeline John Titor laughs at this pathetic poser.
 
2018-02-13 07:51:03 PM  

Yaw String: I've always wondered how a time traveler would actually end up on the earth's surface after moving forward or backward in time? Since the earth is both rotating at approx 1000 mph and orbiting the sun at approx. 67,000 mph, and our solar system itself is moving at approx. 514,000 mph, seems any movement through time would find your ass floating in space.


Naturally, any technology sufficiently advanced to allow time travel should have the computing power to predict the rotation of the earth, revolutions around the sun, and calculate a destination point based on that..
 
2018-02-13 08:03:02 PM  

Danger Mouse: aseras: I passed every polygraph i ever had to take for my security clearance. I'm immortal, I'm superman and I'm batman too. Never lost any of my clearances.

after 3 straight, i never had to do another test, but everyone else did.

Did you answer every question truthfully?


I lied on the control questions ( which I was supposed to do ). Which didn't register as a lie. I was asked if I were my age, yes. If I were born in whatever state, yes.

Then the "no way questions" I was told to answer yes to, "are you superman"? Yes, lie "Have you ever done drugs?" Yes,lie ( but also wanted to point out so many things are drugs but....) "have I ever stolen from anyone?" No (questionable) "have I ever told a lie in the past 10 years?" No (definite lie) no change from baseline. They are all yes or no questions and they create a baseline from your true answers and your false ones. They couldn't get one on me. I even told the polygraph guy that he was a very beautiful woman and passed. It was fun. There were obviously "real" questions mixed in like "have you ever stolen anything from work?" Or "have you disclosed classified information without authorization" or "have you ever held open the door to a secure facility to let someone tailgate you in" typical bs squirm questions. I did answer yes to "have I ever gained unauthorized access to a system" which was true and I had to explain why. ( I hacked my bosses PC during our usual pranks and back in ancient times I set the baud rate of his NIC to 300 baud ( BNC and AUI days...) to screw with him to get back at him posting thousands of IE icons all going to random porn sites on my desktop, and I also put a non bootable disk in a floppy drive hidden inside his case and put another one in the real floppy that was disconnected ) It took him weeks to figure it out. Good times.

/I'm an extremely high functional aspergers. Those kind of tests just don't work on me at all. I'm way way too in control. I don't get social cues or when it's my turn to speak in conversations. I'm always interrupting someone because I misread a cue.
//I have an eidetic memory, so I never forget anything, usually. Unless I'm super obsessed and totally dissociated from reality. Even then I can usually close my eyes and "rewind" and reread or relisten to something I missed.
///everyone thinks I'm some kind of super genius, but I just want to be dumb and normal, and that's not getting into any of my medical or genetic problems.
 
2018-02-13 08:05:41 PM  

What_Would_Jimi_Do: ask him what a big mac is called at mcdonalds, we all know everything is taco bell in the future.


It should be the McKinely or Denali Mac. I know they've rolled out the Grand Mac nationwide now but it's nowhere near as good as the Alaska ones.
 
2018-02-13 08:09:17 PM  
Great Porn Dragon:
Thanks for expanding/explaining my concept better than I could.
I wanted to see the Tom Corbet Space Cadet and Space Patrol shows.
Didn't the Captain Video & Video Rangers use Old Western Serials??

Actually watching PentaGigs of 50s TV might take some of the shine off of The Golden Age of Television.
 
2018-02-13 08:18:57 PM  
I probably couldn't live long enough to watch a PentaByte of anything.
Not sure how many hours that would be.
 
2018-02-13 08:46:51 PM  
Boobies.
 
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