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(Mirror.co.uk)   This just in: Time traveler from 2030 risks his life to come back and let us know what the future has in store. Bonus: He passed a lie detector test   ( mirror.co.uk) divider line
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2018-02-13 12:19:37 PM  
It's Mirror so now I doubt existence of lies
 
2018-02-13 12:20:10 PM  

Myrdinn: probability foam


That has been debunked, it is not in fact an effective contraceptive.
 
2018-02-13 12:20:51 PM  

Senseless_drivel: Way not to go back and assassinate Hitler, douchebag.

Or save the Kennedy's. Or Sandy Hook Elementary. Or Las Vegas. Or...crap, we're gonna need a lot more time travelers.


It's not possible to go back and change things like that. Doing so would negate your reason of going back in time, cancelling out.
 
2018-02-13 12:21:16 PM  
No JCVD Timecop references?

Fark, i am disapoint.
 
2018-02-13 12:21:51 PM  

akula: So he says he's from 2030 and he's in his 50s but just looks 25.

Where's his "now" self?

Noah previously told Paranormal Elite he has anorexia and depression and is actually 50-years-old, but took an age rejuvenating drug to turn him into a 25-year-old.


So you see, it's totally legit.
 
2018-02-13 12:23:13 PM  
No I didn't.
 
2018-02-13 12:25:10 PM  

snocone: Walker: Among his bold claims are that Donald Trump will be re-elected in 2020,

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If Trump is still in power in 2020, there will be NO ELECTIONS.
Quote me.


Farkied as such
 
2018-02-13 12:26:22 PM  
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2018-02-13 12:26:38 PM  
damn it Barry!
 
2018-02-13 12:27:47 PM  
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The first rule of Time Travel Club?  No pocket change.  It messes everything up.
 
2018-02-13 12:30:09 PM  
There is pretty much no way to disprove that someone is a time traveler.  Conversely, there is no way to prove it either.

Unless they can actually show evidence like, "In two minutes, a bird will hit that window" kind of thing.

For this guy to be coming out with these predictions only means something to the people that hope they come true.  Everyone else won't believe it at all.

One thing I cannot believe for a moment is that Trump would be reelected in 2020.  I seems pretty clear that much of this country lost it's mind in the last election.  But it seems equally clear now that we won't be making that mistake again.

Unless, you know, something really really really seriously goes wrong.  Like Trump has all his opponents assassinated.  And suddenly he starts showing glaring approvals in the polls.  And he wins the election in a landslide on the platform of, "Vote for me, or we kill your family".
 
2018-02-13 12:30:54 PM  
So this person made an unauthorized trip back in time to warn us about the future, and the warnings are ... that google glass will be popular, trump will win 2020, and that electric cars will go fast?
 
2018-02-13 12:33:16 PM  

tuxq: Senseless_drivel: Way not to go back and assassinate Hitler, douchebag.

Or save the Kennedy's. Or Sandy Hook Elementary. Or Las Vegas. Or...crap, we're gonna need a lot more time travelers.

It's not possible to go back and change things like that. Doing so would negate your reason of going back in time, cancelling out.


It is imperative that they go back in time and assassinate Flugelman, though.

Who's Flugelman, you ask?  Exactly.
 
2018-02-13 12:33:17 PM  
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Also unimpressed.
 
2018-02-13 12:34:13 PM  
He is from 2030, he is 50. Them his 20yr old self should be walking around someplace.
 
2018-02-13 12:36:44 PM  
ask him what a big mac is called at mcdonalds, we all know everything is taco bell in the future.
 
2018-02-13 12:36:52 PM  

Rapmaster2000: [img.fark.net image 500x389]


With nice hands
 
2018-02-13 12:37:07 PM  

Gleeman: BadReligion: akula: So he says he's from 2030 and he's in his 50s but just looks 25.

Where's his "now" self?

That is why he has to remain anonymous, duh.

You don't want to run into yourself while time traveling, it's very awkward.


No, but it makes that, "excuse me" more apropos.
 
2018-02-13 12:37:27 PM  

Pazuzu Smith-Jones: Three points:

1) ...


Fourth Point: Reverse time-travel is a physical impossibility. Forward time-travel is a fact; we're all doing it right now at a nominal 1:1 rate.

Picture two typical film projectors pointed at the same screen (that screen representing physical "reality".) Both projectors are set up to display a single object, be it a person, or a simple rubber ball, both beginning at a specific point in time.. The difference: one projector will project the "natural" sequence of events (time running forward.) The second projector will project the "reverse" sequence of events, (time running backward.) A random "starting point" is selected, and both projectors are synchronized, simulating the exact instant reverse time-travel would begin. During the very first attosecond, both projectors will show the object occupying the same point in space. Two of the same object, occupying the same point in space, is a paradox. Even if the object were travelling at the speed of light, a sufficiently thin slice of time will still produce the same paradox of one forward-travelling object and one backward-travelling object occupying the same point.  Unlike the more jovial thought exercise of considering "becoming your own father", I suspect that this more essential sort of paradox might result in some sort of matter/ anti-matter reaction between the two objects, each given a sort of "temporal polarity" by their direction of time travel.

Does this make sense?
 
2018-02-13 12:40:23 PM  

tuxq: Senseless_drivel: Way not to go back and assassinate Hitler, douchebag.

Or save the Kennedy's. Or Sandy Hook Elementary. Or Las Vegas. Or...crap, we're gonna need a lot more time travelers.

It's not possible to go back and change things like that. Doing so would negate your reason of going back in time, cancelling out.

Depends on the time travel rules. In Orson Scott Card's Pastwatch: The Redemption of Christopher Columbus, (Spoilers!!)
the time travelers did change the past in such a way as to not only wipe out their reason for going back, but their own existence and that of all of the intervening generations of their ancestors, all of the history, whole nations, whole genres of literature and entertainment, technology, religions (including Card's own Mormonism which could never come into existence in the re-altered timeline), etc., all to be replaced by new versions of each. The time travelers themselves were immune from this because for the brief instant of time travel, they were outside of the flow of causality. They "remembered" their "past" because of the neural structures of their brains where those memories were stored which remained unaltered, but that "past" would now never happen.

That novel makes a fascinating case that we currently live in a deliberately altered timeline. ⇒ Time viewers from a previous iteration of history sent back a device that caused Columbus to think he'd experienced a vision of the Holy Trinity telling him to sail west to reach the Orient.
 
2018-02-13 12:43:07 PM  
That is all very interesting, but can he tell me what the winning lottery numbers are this week?
 
2018-02-13 12:46:48 PM  
Does the lie detector look at the 17 pantomimes?
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2018-02-13 12:49:18 PM  

beezeltown: Question him about memories of 1988-1992. He should have been "coming of age" then. This moron was born probably between 1992-1995.

-tell me about the Nintendo glove Oh, god, it was AWFUL
-"stop, collaborate and ____" listen
-duck hunt dog did what when you missed? laughed at you
-the "Berlin Wall theme" was sung by which group? no idea
Etc, etc...


/born in 76
 
2018-02-13 12:52:52 PM  
"Among his bold claims are that Donald Trump will be re-elected in 2020, Artificial Intelligence will gain momentum and Google-glasses style machines will take over."

Man those predictions are BOLD and SPICY! And not at all easily believable and vague. I mean, AI?! We don't hear about that at ALL these days!
 
2018-02-13 12:58:24 PM  

Once and Future Lurker: Thanks Obama.


User name checks out
 
2018-02-13 01:00:19 PM  
He's got a time machine, and he only goes 12 years into the past?

Noob.
 
2018-02-13 01:01:11 PM  

tuxq: Senseless_drivel: Way not to go back and assassinate Hitler, douchebag.

Or save the Kennedy's. Or Sandy Hook Elementary. Or Las Vegas. Or...crap, we're gonna need a lot more time travelers.

It's not possible to go back and change things like that. Doing so would negate your reason of going back in time, cancelling out.


Don't you mean negating the need for a second trip since Hitler was assassinated?
 
2018-02-13 01:06:55 PM  
It would have been more interesting to hear who Trump runs against.
 
2018-02-13 01:07:25 PM  
Time travel? Bullshiat. Everybody knows we slipped into an alternate dimension where Trump is president due to that damn Large Hadron Collider.

/Everybody knows
//But not everyone knows
///WheeeOoooo sounds
 
2018-02-13 01:09:37 PM  

pheelix: BadReligion: akula: So he says he's from 2030 and he's in his 50s but just looks 25.

Where's his "now" self?

That is why he has to remain anonymous, duh.

I say we kill his now self and see if it makes him disappear. It's the only way to be sure.


I say we see if he weighs more than a duck
 
2018-02-13 01:11:36 PM  
He alsosay in 2030 the president is (what sounds like through the muffled dialogue) "Ilana Remikee" - who just not seem to come up in any searches.

And maybe you just are not thinking outside the box, and it is an Ilana Remi who is married to a person named "Key" (Ilana Remi-Key).
 
2018-02-13 01:13:06 PM  

steklo: The international time traveler meeting has been postponed to yesterday


http://m.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/07​/​02/stephen-hawking-time-travel_n_16434​88.html

He's fashionably late.
 
2018-02-13 01:15:14 PM  

Beerbarian: It would have been more interesting to hear who Trump runs against.


They don't know.  In their timeline, Sanders won, which is why they were able to advance enough to create time travel, but then their meddling in time afterwards created our current Worst Timeline.
 
2018-02-13 01:16:50 PM  

lostcat: It's not hard to answer questions falsely when there is no risk of negative consequences.

I had the pleasure, once, of informally interviewing for a job I didn't need. That was the most related I've been in an interview, and it went amazingly well.


Heh, that's how I got several, and current, jobs: dropping friends off for an interview and/or going just for shiats and giggles.

Job hunting when you NEED a job is nerve racking and desperation seeps out from you, but not when you DON'T one.
 
2018-02-13 01:17:07 PM  
The future sounds horrible. Let's not go there.
 
2018-02-13 01:18:39 PM  

th0rr: Time travel? Bullshiat. Everybody knows we slipped into an alternate dimension where Trump is president due to that damn Large Hadron Collider.

/Everybody knows
//But not everyone knows
///WheeeOoooo sounds


If the LHC caused the election to go to Trump then it's not spelled hadron.
 
2018-02-13 01:20:19 PM  
"Humans fly to Mars in 2028 - the same year time travel is made public"

If made public and the technology is released, an average walmart shopper buying the device is pictured below.

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2018-02-13 01:25:20 PM  

vudukungfu: This is a repeat from three weeks in the future.


Vudu indeed... Well done.
 
2018-02-13 01:27:09 PM  

guestguy: OldRod: Deep Contact: darthstormer: darkeyes: I assume he changed the timeline by coming back so everything he knows is irrelevant now.

Depends.  Are we talking Back to the Future rules?  Or Twelve Monkeys rules?

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Probably "Primer" rules

Damnit, I'd better start recording my conversations...


I hate the 'spelling' of the word 'damnit'. It's either two words, damn it, or one word spelled dammit.

I get why it's done. I simply hate looking at it.

https://www.google.com/search?q=defin​e​+damnit

/Sorry not sorry
//Not a game
 
2018-02-13 01:31:47 PM  

durbnpoisn: There is pretty much no way to disprove that someone is a time traveler.  Conversely, there is no way to prove it either.

Unless they can actually show evidence like, "In two minutes, a bird will hit that window" kind of thing.


Space and time are related so It should scientifically be possible. But to go back in time you also need to be able to also teleport through space. The earth is always moving, as is the galaxy, universe etc. So if you went anywhere in time even a few hours, the earth would be moving around the sun at 67,000 mph and the solar system is orbiting the galaxy at 515,000 mph and we have no idea how fast the universe itself is moving.
If you are off by a fraction of a millisecond you are floating in space or crushed, or inside the planet or the sun or worse.

Suppose you can do it and can prove it ala the "Biff Almanac" or something. Then you seriously alter history and the whole timeline. Maybe you are supposed to. Maybe the reasons humans are on earth is someone farked up and got stranded on this rock. Every possible outcome becomes possible and then you can dabble into multiverse theory and really break your perception of reality.
 
2018-02-13 01:32:40 PM  

H31N0US: Given the source, I now doubt the concept of time.


Odd....I thought I said that years ago.
 
2018-02-13 01:37:32 PM  

beezeltown: Question him about memories of 1988-1992. He should have been "coming of age" then. This moron was born probably between 1992-1995.

-tell me about the Nintendo glove
-"stop, collaborate and ____"
-duck hunt dog did what when you missed?
-the "Berlin Wall theme" was sung by which group?
Etc, etc...


You mean the Power Glove? I had one- hard as hell to use.
Listen.
Laughed.
Beats me.

Hell, I was born in 82 and don't remember the last.
 
2018-02-13 01:37:49 PM  

GanjSmokr: refreshed before posting.  I was wrong and apologize.


User name checks out.
 
2018-02-13 01:42:05 PM  

CthulhuCalling: It's not John Titor?


Gaaah, a name I never hoped to never hear again!
 
2018-02-13 01:47:49 PM  

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2018-02-13 01:49:20 PM  

Sword and Shield: 2030, eh? Give me some artifacts. Simple pocket change from 2030. Forget the big stuff- who plays goal for the Red Wings in the 2030-31 season? A simple picture of them in net, please.


If he can provide a photo shopped image of a future-dated USA today, that's all the proof I need.
 
2018-02-13 01:50:59 PM  
As of 1993, the United State Federal Rules of Evidence follow what's called the Daubert standard, which requires a judge to accept data based only on proven science. The fallout from this allowed polygrapher testimony on a case-by-case basis. Whereas lie detector tests had been virtually unheard of in courtrooms since 1923, the 1983 case United States v. Scheffer used Daubert to allow a defendant to present polygraph data based on his Sixth Amendment rights in cases where the court could not conclusively disprove this particular polygraph test to have been unscientific! In short, the Scheffer decision allows the Daubert standard to be used in exactly the opposite way it was intended; somewhat along the lines of Mark Twain's comment that "The first and last aim and object of the law and lawyers was to defeat justice."

https://skeptoid.com/episodes/4422
 
2018-02-13 01:52:39 PM  

dittybopper: snocone: Walker: Among his bold claims are that Donald Trump will be re-elected in 2020,

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If Trump is still in power in 2020, there will be NO ELECTIONS.
Quote me.

Ummm, you do know that his term runs from January 20th, 2017 to January 10th, 2021, right?  Even if he isn't reelected, he'll still be in office throughout all of 2020.


Difficulty:  Mueller and the upcoming impeachments.
 
2018-02-13 01:53:50 PM  
Hey Time Travelers of 2030...

Build a self contained device able to record the Analog Television Signals of the late 1940s to the mid 1960s.
You'll probably need a 10P Hard Drive or whatever it is you use.
Go to 1945 and hide it in the Empire State building.
(A few walls had to be repaired after that Bomber ran into it. Put it inside one.)
In 2031 remove it.
(You removed it after you put it in. No Paradox.)
Copy the more popular and interesting shows to old fashioned VHS tapes that you purchased in the 1980s.
(You sold the tapes after you purchased them. No Paradox)
Repeat using DVDs.
Repeat using flash drives.
 
2018-02-13 02:05:04 PM  
aseras:


Space and time are related so It should scientifically be possible. But to go back in time you also need to be able to also teleport through space. The earth is always moving, as is the galaxy, universe etc. So if you went anywhere in time even a few hours, the earth would be moving around the sun at 67,000 mph and the solar system is orbiting the galaxy at 515,000 mph and we have no idea how fast the universe itself is moving.

If you are off by a fraction of a millisecond you are floating in space or crushed, or inside the planet or the sun or worse.


I send all my trash and the bodies of my enemies 100 years into the future.
 
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