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(USA Today)   Mike Pereira- Eagles should have been penalized on trick play in Super Bowl. Eagle fans- we've got your penalty flag right here, Mike   ( touchdownwire.usatoday.com) divider line
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2018-02-13 11:29:56 AM  
As I said in the red-lit thread, don't know how both the head linesman and the line judge could have missed this...it's a fairly easy call.

/Raiders fan
//no dog in the hunt
///
 
2018-02-13 11:57:36 AM  
Didn't the wide-out check with the line judge pre-snap? If so it sounds like a judgment call on the officials part and not malfeasance on Philly's part.
 
2018-02-13 11:58:56 AM  
Defense still sucked and fortunately part of the problem was shipped to Detroit.
 
2018-02-13 12:07:35 PM  

hobnail: Didn't the wide-out check with the line judge pre-snap? If so it sounds like a judgment call on the officials part and not malfeasance on Philly's part.


Yep. Pereira looking for attention. He's been a contrarian for Fox.
 
2018-02-13 12:11:15 PM  

hobnail: Didn't the wide-out check with the line judge pre-snap? If so it sounds like a judgment call on the officials part and not malfeasance on Philly's part.


yes, he did, and this has been covered ad nauseam.

But hey, Fark is known for green-lighting dead horses, so....
 
2018-02-13 12:12:26 PM  

Slow To Return: hobnail: Didn't the wide-out check with the line judge pre-snap? If so it sounds like a judgment call on the officials part and not malfeasance on Philly's part.

yes, he did, and this has been covered ad nauseam.

But hey, Fark is known for green-lighting dead horses, so....


When even Patriot fans aren't biatching about it, you know the horse is dead.
 
2018-02-13 12:12:44 PM  
I give Patricia 2 years in Detroit
 
2018-02-13 12:16:40 PM  

hobnail: Didn't the wide-out check with the line judge pre-snap?


Yes.

The line judge should have motioned him to take a step forward, but he had official clearance for his presence on the line of scrimmage.
 
2018-02-13 12:19:35 PM  
Jeffery's lead foot was even with the RT's feet.
 
2018-02-13 12:22:55 PM  
When you factor that against all the defenses that line up in the neutral zone and are never flagged, I still don't give a rat's ass.  EAGLES!!!
 
2018-02-13 12:24:23 PM  
That will teach New England to be late in their payments to the Refs. I'm sure that won't happen again
 
2018-02-13 12:34:32 PM  
Meh. They would've been backed up five yards. Then they would've gone for three and still won(if nothing else changed, which it would have), or maybe gone for it again and got it anyway, or not. It would've changed how the rest of the game was played, so we can derive absolutely nothing from one play.

Who the hell knows? The game's over. Let it go. It was a heluva game. Let. It. Go.
 
2018-02-13 12:50:01 PM  

Lifeless: Jeffery's lead foot was even with the RT's feet.


I read the rulebook, and

"ARTICLE 3. PLAYER ON LINE OF SCRIMMAGE
A player of Team A, who is on the line of scrimmage, must have his shoulders facing Team B's goal line. Item 1. Non-Snapper. If he is not the snapper, no part of his body is permitted to be in the neutral zone at the snap, and his helmet must break a vertical plane that passes through the beltline of the snapper."

Jeffery's helmet was probably a few inches too far back.  It's difficult to tell from the pictures I looked at, but he was close enough that this would very rarely draw a flag.
 
2018-02-13 01:00:05 PM  

NewWorldDan: Lifeless: Jeffery's lead foot was even with the RT's feet.

I read the rulebook, and

"ARTICLE 3. PLAYER ON LINE OF SCRIMMAGE
A player of Team A, who is on the line of scrimmage, must have his shoulders facing Team B's goal line. Item 1. Non-Snapper. If he is not the snapper, no part of his body is permitted to be in the neutral zone at the snap, and his helmet must break a vertical plane that passes through the beltline of the snapper."

Jeffery's helmet was probably a few inches too far back.  It's difficult to tell from the pictures I looked at, but he was close enough that this would very rarely draw a flag.


This is among the most commonly violated / least enforced rules.  They do call illegal formation, but usually only when someone obviously forgets or ignores their role in the formation.  They overlook someone being a little lazy or trying to create a little space for themselves.
 
2018-02-13 01:05:28 PM  

Red Shirt Blues: hobnail: Didn't the wide-out check with the line judge pre-snap? If so it sounds like a judgment call on the officials part and not malfeasance on Philly's part.

Yep. Pereira looking for attention. He's been a contrarian for Fox.


Yep, I read another article that quoted Pereira.

2 times he said it was a judgement call before ending the things with "there should have been a penalty".
 
2018-02-13 01:31:51 PM  
"should" have been called is different from "could" have been called
 
2018-02-13 01:33:03 PM  

natural316: I give Patricia 2 years in Detroit


Really?  is that because of what he has to work with in Detroit or about Patricia?  Seems like a good choice for HC but I don't watch the Patriots a lot to be honest.
 
2018-02-13 01:34:34 PM  
And NBA refs don't call traveling enough.  Get over it.  In this case, the wideout checked in with the ref, who indicated compliance, so it doesn't matter if he was off by a couple of inches because the ref OK'd it.  That would be like biatching about NBA traveling when the player actually told the ref ahead of time "look, Ima take three steps, OK?" and the ref was like "Cool with me, man".
 
2018-02-13 01:40:58 PM  

cefm: And NBA refs don't call traveling enough.  Get over it.  In this case, the wideout checked in with the ref, who indicated compliance, so it doesn't matter if he was off by a couple of inches because the ref OK'd it.  That would be like biatching about NBA traveling when the player actually told the ref ahead of time "look, Ima take three steps, OK?" "Gimme three steps.  Give me three steps mister" and the ref was like "Cool with me, man".


FTFY
 
2018-02-13 01:46:58 PM  

isthisme: Red Shirt Blues: hobnail: Didn't the wide-out check with the line judge pre-snap? If so it sounds like a judgment call on the officials part and not malfeasance on Philly's part.

Yep. Pereira looking for attention. He's been a contrarian for Fox.

Yep, I read another article that quoted Pereira.

2 times he said it was a judgement call before ending the things with "there should have been a penalty".


I don't see what's surprising about that. In Pereira's judgement there should have been a penalty, but his judgement matters a little less than the actual on-field official.

/Kind of like I'm a little less handsome than Brad Pitt
 
2018-02-13 01:49:22 PM  

zamboni: Meh. They would've been backed up five yards. Then they would've gone for three and still won(if nothing else changed, which it would have), or maybe gone for it again and got it anyway, or not. It would've changed how the rest of the game was played, so we can derive absolutely nothing from one play.

Who the hell knows? The game's over. Let it go. It was a heluva game. Let. It. Go.


Smarted by this Patriots fan. Much ado about nothing. Eagles won that game by playing great football for the whole game. There is nothing that can taint that win, great game.
 
2018-02-13 01:50:15 PM  

johnny_vegas: Really? is that because of what he has to work with in Detroit or about Patricia? Seems like a good choice for HC but I don't watch the Patriots a lot to be honest.


From what I've observed, Patriots fans aren't too fond of his coaching.  And considering defense was their weak spot this year, especially in the SB, they may have a point.  Though it may be a personnel issue.  I haven't seen enough of the Patriots to have an opinion.
 
2018-02-13 01:58:55 PM  

BigSquibowski: zamboni: Meh. They would've been backed up five yards. Then they would've gone for three and still won(if nothing else changed, which it would have), or maybe gone for it again and got it anyway, or not. It would've changed how the rest of the game was played, so we can derive absolutely nothing from one play.

Who the hell knows? The game's over. Let it go. It was a heluva game. Let. It. Go.

Smarted by this Patriots fan. Much ado about nothing. Eagles won that game by playing great football for the whole game. There is nothing that can taint that win, great game.


who are you and what have you done with BigSquibowski???

;-)
 
2018-02-13 02:14:58 PM  

Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: johnny_vegas: Really? is that because of what he has to work with in Detroit or about Patricia? Seems like a good choice for HC but I don't watch the Patriots a lot to be honest.

From what I've observed, Patriots fans aren't too fond of his coaching.  And considering defense was their weak spot this year, especially in the SB, they may have a point.  Though it may be a personnel issue.  I haven't seen enough of the Patriots to have an opinion.


The Patriots don't care what happens until you get to the red zone.  They will play close to people, mix up 3 or 4 rushers, play mostly man and some zone, and don't take many chances.  They just let the other team screw up, because statistically speaking most teams stop themselves.
If they get to the red zone the strategy changes.  This is where personnel was a problem this year.

If you think of past teams, they had Ty Law or to a lesser extent Asante Samuel to shut down a third of a field's worth of passing.  They had Vince Wilfork and/or Richard Seymour to dominate half the field in the running game.  And they had a host of versatile linebackers to stop both the run and pass.

After some injuries or subpar play, they had none of that this year until (and don't laugh) James Harrison showed up and helped contain the run on one side of the field and rush the passer a little.

It's hard to point a finger at Patricia for getting to the Super Bowl (thank Tom Brady and the running backs) but you have what you have, you need to do something about it.  I may be wrong, but if they blitzed more than 2 guys more than 10 times all year, I'd be surprised.

What that means for Detroit: your toasted defense will be boring but hopefully more consistent.
And God Bless Jim Bob.  He's on his own.
 
2018-02-13 02:27:05 PM  

johnny_vegas: BigSquibowski: zamboni: Meh. They would've been backed up five yards. Then they would've gone for three and still won(if nothing else changed, which it would have), or maybe gone for it again and got it anyway, or not. It would've changed how the rest of the game was played, so we can derive absolutely nothing from one play.

Who the hell knows? The game's over. Let it go. It was a heluva game. Let. It. Go.

Smarted by this Patriots fan. Much ado about nothing. Eagles won that game by playing great football for the whole game. There is nothing that can taint that win, great game.

who are you and what have you done with BigSquibowski???

;-)


Ha! I've always been a fan of the game 1st, the team 2nd. Asshole haters get treated like assholes, and with all the Pats hate here, I rarely get to talk about actual football!
 
2018-02-13 02:37:45 PM  

johnny_vegas: natural316: I give Patricia 2 years in Detroit

Really?  is that because of what he has to work with in Detroit or about Patricia?  Seems like a good choice for HC but I don't watch the Patriots a lot to be honest.


The only way Patricia would leave after 2 years in Detroit is if he decided, on his own, to leave the team. No one gets fired there that early.
 
2018-02-13 03:07:34 PM  
Rooting for the Eagles wasn't enough of a penalty?

Fark off, Mike.
 
2018-02-13 04:17:11 PM  
Patriots fans have developed quite the sense of entitlement over flag calls.
 
2018-02-13 04:43:36 PM  

johnny_vegas: natural316: I give Patricia 2 years in Detroit

Really?  is that because of what he has to work with in Detroit or about Patricia?  Seems like a good choice for HC but I don't watch the Patriots a lot to be honest.


I'd say it has more to do with Belichick-mentored coaches generally sucking once they become head coaches.

But you'd have to be pretty terrible to be fired in 2 years or less.
 
2018-02-13 05:46:03 PM  

meanmutton: johnny_vegas: natural316: I give Patricia 2 years in Detroit

Really?  is that because of what he has to work with in Detroit or about Patricia?  Seems like a good choice for HC but I don't watch the Patriots a lot to be honest.

The only way Patricia would leave after 2 years in Detroit is if he decided, on his own, to leave the team. No one gets fired there that early.


You may be too young to remember Tommy Hudspeth, but Marty Mornhinweg was fired after two seasons.

I'd include Gary Moeller, as well.
 
2018-02-13 08:55:03 PM  
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2018-02-13 11:08:46 PM  

edmo: Patriots fans have developed quite the sense of entitlement over flag calls.


being whiny little biatches is more of a universal trait among nfl fans
 
2018-02-14 12:19:18 AM  

LibertyHiller: meanmutton: johnny_vegas: natural316: I give Patricia 2 years in Detroit

Really?  is that because of what he has to work with in Detroit or about Patricia?  Seems like a good choice for HC but I don't watch the Patriots a lot to be honest.

The only way Patricia would leave after 2 years in Detroit is if he decided, on his own, to leave the team. No one gets fired there that early.

You may be too young to remember Tommy Hudspeth, but Marty Mornhinweg was fired after two seasons.

I'd include Gary Moeller, as well.


I'm thinking that might have been a joke.  The average tenure of a lions head coach going back to Bobby Ross is just over 3 years, so I'm not sure someone could think 2 years would be out of the question. And that doesn't include their two interim coaches during that time.
 
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