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(Eat Sip Trip)   California may start requiring a cancer warnings to be placed on coffee cups. A little bit of an overreaction or a whole lot of an overreaction?   ( eatsiptrip.10best.com) divider line
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2018-02-09 02:44:52 PM  
Coffee cups cause cancer now?

/yeah, I know
//did not care to read TFA
///Joe Jackson was right
 
2018-02-09 02:58:03 PM  
California should just label everything with a cancer warning and be done with it.
 
2018-02-09 02:59:06 PM  
The cups contain potassium benzoate.
 
2018-02-09 03:04:07 PM  

Rusty Shackleford: The cups contain potassium benzoate.


That's bad.
 
2018-02-09 03:09:35 PM  
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2018-02-09 03:12:31 PM  

Erma Gerdd: Rusty Shackleford: The cups contain potassium benzoate.

That's bad.


Can I go now?
 
2018-02-09 03:15:29 PM  

no1curr: California should just label everything with a cancer warning and be done with it.


They pretty much do, everywhere you go, there's a Prop 65 warning, like at the door to a Trader Joe's or a parking garage. The whole point was to create an avenue for lawyers to sue business (extort money) if they didn't have a 65 warning up.
 
2018-02-09 03:19:45 PM  
The US Government's own Dietary Guidelines state that coffee can be part of a healthy lifestyle," Bill Murray, the president of the National Coffee Association, told CNN.

No one will ever believe you...
 
2018-02-09 03:24:19 PM  
The Big One can't come soon enough.
 
2018-02-09 03:24:35 PM  

Erma Gerdd: Rusty Shackleford: The cups contain potassium benzoate.

That's bad.


They also contain coffee.

That's good.

But the cup is cursed.
 
2018-02-09 03:25:27 PM  
Now everyone hates transparency
 
2018-02-09 03:25:48 PM  
Well there is a history of testicular cancer in my family...so I guess this means I should stop pouring coffee on my balls now.
 
2018-02-09 03:26:45 PM  
Coffee, alcohol, the smell of cooking meat, all of them are possible carcinogens.

There should be a warning on the inside of all doors saying that exposure to sunshine can cause cancer.
 
2018-02-09 03:28:14 PM  

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When did Frank become a barista?
 
2018-02-09 03:30:06 PM  

Erma Gerdd: ///Joe Jackson was right


I still think Michael was right to fire him for all those years of abuse.
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2018-02-09 03:30:33 PM  

give me doughnuts: Coffee, alcohol, the smell of cooking meat, all of them are possible carcinogens.

There should be a warning on the inside of all doors saying that exposure to sunshine can cause cancer.


I think steaming is the only form of cooking that doesn't form carcinogens.

But virtually all food has naturally occurring carcinogens anyhow.
 
2018-02-09 03:31:12 PM  

dj_bigbird: no1curr: California should just label everything with a cancer warning and be done with it.

They pretty much do, everywhere you go, there's a Prop 65 warning, like at the door to a Trader Joe's or a parking garage. The whole point was to create an avenue for lawyers to sue business (extort money) if they didn't have a 65 warning up.




From here:
A bit of research on CERT [Council for Education and Research on Toxics] revealed the following. It is a non-profit California corporation, EIN: 42-1571530, founded in 2003. CERT has a business address at:

401 E Ocean Blvd., Ste. 800, Long Beach, California 90802-4967

And a telephone number: 1-877-TOX-TORT

CERT's mission statement? Furthering scientific understanding of toxins.

Plaintiffs' lawyer Ralph Metzger is noted as the contact person for CERT.
 
2018-02-09 03:31:42 PM  
Bill Murray, the president of the National Coffee Association

He's into so much more than just acting.
 
2018-02-09 03:33:06 PM  

no1curr: California should just label everything with a cancer warning and be done with it.


Well, if they start labeling coffee cups, that should just about do it.
Living in California I see so many of those cancer warning signs they have become meaningless.
 
2018-02-09 03:33:40 PM  
Forget it Jake, it's California
 
2018-02-09 03:34:24 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: Now everyone hates transparency


Transparency, eh?

Let's see...

Studies in rodent models have found that acrylamide exposure increases the risk for several types of cancer (10-13). In the body, acrylamide is converted to a compound called glycidamide, which causes mutations in and damage to DNA. However, a large number of epidemiologic studies (both case-control and cohort stud​ies) in humans have found no consistent evidence that dietary acrylamide exposure is associated with the risk of any type of cancer (914). (emphasis added)

The actual regulation requires that "The [warning] message must clearly communicate that the chemical in question is known to the state to cause cancer, or birth defects or other reproductive harm." (emphasis added)

Here the chemical isn't known to cause cancer because it's not known by anyone. The science is inconclusive at this point. I actually don't mind Prop 65 warnings in general because I think it's quite useful to let people know that certain products contain carcinogens. But if the warnings are now being added to substances that may or may not be carcinogens, the entire point of the warnings is missed.
 
2018-02-09 03:40:09 PM  
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There's still plenty of room on the other side for the SDS.
 
2018-02-09 03:44:39 PM  

Rozinante: The Big One can't come soon enough.


Meh.  Some lawyer would just file a stay of meteor or something.
 
2018-02-09 03:44:46 PM  
California is where people go to get cancer.

Or something.  I dunno.
 
2018-02-09 03:55:44 PM  
If they go after coffee for acryaldehides, will they go after all foods where oils in conjunction with carbohydrates are browned? Anywhere you see the Maillard reaction, they'll need to place a label.
 
2018-02-09 03:57:39 PM  
This just in: No one gets out of here alive
 
2018-02-09 04:00:22 PM  

dj_bigbird: no1curr: California should just label everything with a cancer warning and be done with it.

They pretty much do, everywhere you go, there's a Prop 65 warning, like at the door to a Trader Joe's or a parking garage. The whole point was to create an avenue for lawyers to sue business (extort money) if they didn't have a 65 warning up.


So this is why California is basically saying that every farking thing in existence may cause cancer?  Who needs to be strung up for this?
 
2018-02-09 04:00:43 PM  
Just put "this will eventually kill you" on everything in CA
 
2018-02-09 04:00:45 PM  

no1curr: California should just label everything with a cancer warning and be done with it.


That's basically what we've done.  Prop65 is the poster child for why overly-broad warning signs are a stupid idea.

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2018-02-09 04:03:22 PM  

kazrak: no1curr: California should just label everything with a cancer warning and be done with it.

That's basically what we've done.  Prop65 is the poster child for why overly-broad warning signs are a stupid idea.

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Definitely don't take any apples from strange old women while you're there...
 
2018-02-09 04:03:24 PM  

Psychopusher: dj_bigbird: no1curr: California should just label everything with a cancer warning and be done with it.

They pretty much do, everywhere you go, there's a Prop 65 warning, like at the door to a Trader Joe's or a parking garage. The whole point was to create an avenue for lawyers to sue business (extort money) if they didn't have a 65 warning up.

So this is why California is basically saying that every farking thing in existence may cause cancer?  Who needs to be strung up for this?


The voters from 1986, who got suckered by "OMG Cancer!"

And since it was a voter initiative, we basically need another one to get rid of it.

/ Not my fault
// Lived in Maine at the time
/// And was too young to vote
 
2018-02-09 04:04:23 PM  

Rozinante: The Big One can't come soon enough.


Yes, by all means, wish for the death of 38 million people just because you don't agree with them. Or just GFY. I vote for the latter.
 
2018-02-09 04:08:31 PM  
Grande overreaction.
 
2018-02-09 04:12:28 PM  

kazrak: The voters from 1986, who got suckered by "OMG Cancer!"

And since it was a voter initiative, we basically need another one to get rid of it.

/ Not my fault
// Lived in Maine at the time
/// And was too young to vote


So, has the expansion of "ridiculous things that may cause cancer" been ongoing fairly steadily for the past 32 years, or has there only relatively recently been a push to find more ridiculous things that may cause cancer because they felt like they were running out of things to ridiculously claim may cause cancer?   I've only really noticed this in the last few years, but that's probably because I'm in an industry that uses something that has never been linked to cancer but which California nevertheless feels the need to claim may cause cancer because of its presence in other things which definitely do cause cancer.  Kind of a guilt by association thing I guess.

/shiat.  Apparently that means I may cause cancer in the state of California.
 
2018-02-09 04:13:34 PM  

Psychopusher: dj_bigbird: no1curr: California should just label everything with a cancer warning and be done with it.

They pretty much do, everywhere you go, there's a Prop 65 warning, like at the door to a Trader Joe's or a parking garage. The whole point was to create an avenue for lawyers to sue business (extort money) if they didn't have a 65 warning up.

So this is why California is basically saying that every farking thing in existence may cause cancer?  Who needs to be strung up for this?


63% of California voters who went to the polls in 1986 - at minimum.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calif​o​rnia_Proposition_65_(1986)
 
2018-02-09 04:13:36 PM  
Add it to the long list of "one and done" solutions....
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2018-02-09 04:13:46 PM  

ImpendingCynic: Rozinante: The Big One can't come soon enough.

Yes, by all means, wish for the death of 38 million people just because you don't agree with them. Or just GFY. I vote for the latter.


That's how many people are on the planet? Fark m-- oh wait, you just told me to do that, despite the impossibility involved.
 
2018-02-09 04:14:25 PM  

Starkaryen: Erma Gerdd: Rusty Shackleford: The cups contain potassium benzoate.

That's bad.

They also contain coffee.

That's good.

But the cup is cursed.


That's bad.
 
2018-02-09 04:14:55 PM  

ImpendingCynic: Rozinante: The Big One can't come soon enough.

Yes, by all means, wish for the death of 38 million people just because you don't agree with them. Or just GFY. I vote for the latter.


Californian-like typing detected.
 
2018-02-09 04:15:03 PM  
California: you better label coffee a carcinogen or face the consequences!! Felonious illigel aliens, you ask? Meh, whatevs!
 
2018-02-09 04:18:49 PM  

Rozinante: The Big One can't come soon enough.


Amen to that. The sooner California drops off into the sea the better for the rest of us.
 
2018-02-09 04:19:05 PM  

Psychopusher: kazrak: The voters from 1986, who got suckered by "OMG Cancer!"

And since it was a voter initiative, we basically need another one to get rid of it.

/ Not my fault
// Lived in Maine at the time
/// And was too young to vote

So, has the expansion of "ridiculous things that may cause cancer" been ongoing fairly steadily for the past 32 years, or has there only relatively recently been a push to find more ridiculous things that may cause cancer because they felt like they were running out of things to ridiculously claim may cause cancer?   I've only really noticed this in the last few years, but that's probably because I'm in an industry that uses something that has never been linked to cancer but which California nevertheless feels the need to claim may cause cancer because of its presence in other things which definitely do cause cancer.  Kind of a guilt by association thing I guess.

/shiat.  Apparently that means I may cause cancer in the state of California.


It's been expanding over the decades.  IARC is the leading authority.
 
2018-02-09 04:23:12 PM  
California is jealous of Florida, and is asking for its own tag.
 
2018-02-09 04:26:36 PM  
Is this from the acrylamide or the hot water?
 
2018-02-09 04:29:52 PM  

meat0918: Is this from the acrylamide or the hot water?


Everyone I've ever met who's drank water has died, so probably the latter.
 
2018-02-09 04:30:10 PM  

Shazam999: IARC is the leading authority.


And they have been corrupted by activists manipulating data
 
2018-02-09 04:32:19 PM  

no1curr: California should just label everything with a cancer warning and be done with it.


We're about 90% of the way there.  Enter my parking lot, there's a sign.  Buy gas, there's a sign.  Go to the grocery store, sign.  Home Depot?  I'm surprised the signs don't have flashing lights and bells.

Those stupid signs are everyfarkingwhere, which makes them meaningless unless you're a scientifically illiterate chicken little type.  Oh, yeah, this is Ca we're talking about...
 
2018-02-09 04:35:45 PM  
So, here's my question.
These California Cancer Crusaders who are responsible for the warnings on almost every product in that state, how do they get through life?  I mean, are they living in communes sewing their own clothes from hemp or something?
 
2018-02-09 04:37:33 PM  

Dahnkster: Erma Gerdd: ///Joe Jackson was right

I still think Michael was right to fire him for all those years of abuse.
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Not that Joe Jackson.
This one.
Joe Jackson 01 Cancer
Youtube 1oDAkmfoAgA
 
2018-02-09 04:38:32 PM  
Want bags of sand for your children's sand box? That's a cancer warning in California.
 
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