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(International Business Times)   Worried about global warming? Fear no longer; the Sun is there   ( ibtimes.co.in) divider line
    More: Cool, Sun, ice age, grand minimum, solar activities, Solar cycle, 11-year solar cycle, Ice Age surprise, science fiction novel  
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2018-02-09 01:31:44 PM  
Didn't we already learn this from the documentary "The Day After Tomorrow"?

I don't really care. The world burns, freezes, I give a shiat. The deniers sort of piss me off I guess.
 
2018-02-09 01:59:49 PM  
The sun has been going through a cooler phase for a couple of decades now - yet global temperatures have been rising quite fast through the same period.  Unless the Sun spontaneously goes out for a few years, the fluctuations are a few drops of piss in the hurricane of human-caused warming.
 
2018-02-09 02:13:28 PM  
IBT, the loudest shouters of "BUT" on the Geek tab.
 
2018-02-09 02:16:12 PM  
Just the other day, NOAA mentioned this period of high solar activity was ending.
I'm in Colorado and thinking "snow!!", but the NWS puts out a report stating that the west should expect 3 more months of above-average temperatures and below-average precipitation.

Fawk.
 
2018-02-09 02:27:20 PM  
Reduced energy from the sun might occur by mid-century-now, scientists know by how much

Despite how much the Maunder Minimum might have affected Earth the last time, Lubin said that an upcoming event would not stop the current trend of planetary warming but might slow it somewhat. The cooling effect of a grand minimum is only a fraction of the warming effect caused by the increasing concentration of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. After hundreds of thousands of years of CO2 levels never exceeding 300 parts per million in air, the concentration of the greenhouse gas is now over 400 parts per million, continuing a rise that began with the Industrial Revolution.
 
2018-02-09 02:29:47 PM  
Cool? This is not cool? I love my warm weather when the time is right.
 
2018-02-09 02:39:43 PM  
The IBT wishes they had the veracity of The Daily Mail
 
2018-02-09 02:42:35 PM  
*sigh*
 
2018-02-09 02:45:32 PM  
Which scientists?  The Russian bot ones?
 
2018-02-09 02:45:35 PM  
So we ignore global warming some more because it's not killing us right this minute. Then when the sun goes back to normal and the temperature shoots up we panic. That's the plan, right?
 
2018-02-09 02:57:46 PM  
But a different study said that warming will offset the cooling. Thanks, computer.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases​/​2018/02/180206105858.htm
 
2018-02-09 03:03:36 PM  

NotARocketScientist: So we ignore global warming some more because it's not killing us right this minute. Then when the sun goes back to normal and the temperature shoots up we panic. That's the plan, right?


I don't think it will kill me any minute in my lifetime, so I will continue to ignore it
 
2018-02-09 03:10:54 PM  
I never understood all the fuss about "global warming." We're a warm weather species. A few degrees warmer opens up vast tracts of new land for agriculture. Canada and Siberia in particular would be huge winners. And history is already littered with the ruins of cities that were built on coasts and then the coast moved, one way or another. But a few degrees cooler? Billions of people starve to death, for starters. And then it gets really bad.
 
2018-02-09 03:12:55 PM  
Who should I believe? Solar or climate scientists?
 
2018-02-09 03:23:03 PM  

southernmanblog: A few degrees warmer opens up vast tracts of new land


Something which we favor.
 
2018-02-09 03:29:40 PM  

WelldeadLink: southernmanblog: A few degrees warmer opens up vast tracts of new land

Something which we favor.


Because glacier scraped land is awesome for growing crops.
 
2018-02-09 03:41:37 PM  
"WelldeadLink: southernmanblog: A few degrees warmer opens up vast tracts of new land

Something which we favor."



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2018-02-09 03:44:40 PM  

Shakin_Haitian: WelldeadLink: southernmanblog: A few degrees warmer opens up vast tracts of new land

Something which we favor.

Because glacier scraped land is awesome for growing crops.


Well, I see an awful lot of fertile land under what used to be glaciers on this map:

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2018-02-09 04:08:59 PM  
So we'll offset global warming with cold fusion.
 
2018-02-09 05:01:19 PM  
Here's a more comprehensive article from a less shiatty source: http://www.news.com.au/techno​logy/scie​nce/space/our-sun-is-about-to-get-unus​ually-cool-researchers-predict/news-st​ory/dea38cc09657428b5d6f4dbd97b8d97b

Here's the paper: http://iopscience.iop.org/artic​le/10.3847/2041-8213/aaa124/meta

And here's the university's press release: http://ucsdnews.ucsd.edu/pre​ssrelease/​reduced_energy_from_the_sun_might_occu​r_by_mid_century Allow me to provide an important quote:

Despite how much the Maunder Minimum might have affected Earth the last time, Lubin said that an upcoming event would not stop the current trend of planetary warming but might slow it somewhat. The cooling effect of a grand minimum is only a fraction of the warming effect caused by the increasing concentration of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. After hundreds of thousands of years of CO2 levels never exceeding 300 parts per million in air, the concentration of the greenhouse gas is now over 400 parts per million, continuing a rise that began with the Industrial Revolution. Other researchers have used computer models to estimate what an event similar to a Maunder Minimum, if it were to occur in coming decades, might mean for our current climate, which is now rapidly warming.

The fact that this article didn't include this important context indicates just how far IBT is to be trusted in its coverage...
 
2018-02-09 06:08:03 PM  
So, given the choice, which would you prefer.

A few degrees of warming or an ice age?
 
2018-02-09 07:34:01 PM  

dready zim: So, given the choice, which would you prefer.

A few degrees of warming or an ice age?


Ice age.
 
2018-02-09 08:18:43 PM  

dittybopper: Shakin_Haitian: WelldeadLink: southernmanblog: A few degrees warmer opens up vast tracts of new land

Something which we favor.

Because glacier scraped land is awesome for growing crops.

Well, I see an awful lot of fertile land under what used to be glaciers on this map:

[academics.smcvt.edu image 850x718]


Yeah, and that land has been uncovered for a very long time, in a temperature and light zone good for becoming fertile enough to grow massive amounts of food.
 
2018-02-09 08:20:11 PM  

dready zim: So, given the choice, which would you prefer.

A few degrees of warming or an ice age?


Considering the next ice age is several thousands of years away? I'll go with the ice age.
 
2018-02-09 08:20:45 PM  

Destructor: dready zim: So, given the choice, which would you prefer.

A few degrees of warming or an ice age?

Ice age.


But only the first one. I didn't like the sequels
 
2018-02-09 09:04:00 PM  

Gonzo317: "WelldeadLink: southernmanblog: A few degrees warmer opens up vast tracts of new land

Something which we favor."


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We have a winner!
 
2018-02-10 08:17:57 AM  

dready zim: So, given the choice, which would you prefer.

A few degrees of warming or an ice age?


As I tried to explain to you last time you asked this, what you're proposing is a false dilemma. Think about it for a second - are there really no other choices than warming of several degrees over a couple of centuries and cooling off several degrees over the course of thousands of years? Hint: temperature is a continuous variable.
 
2018-02-10 08:32:48 AM  

southernmanblog: I never understood all the fuss about "global warming." We're a warm weather species. A few degrees warmer opens up vast tracts of new land for agriculture. Canada and Siberia in particular would be huge winners. And history is already littered with the ruins of cities that were built on coasts and then the coast moved, one way or another. But a few degrees cooler? Billions of people starve to death, for starters. And then it gets really bad.


Warmer weather will lengthen growing seasons, but even now the northern limits of agriculture are determined by soil, not climate.  Dedicated tundra moss, gravel, muskeg and rock make for poor soils.  In exchange, we lose the Australian, Indian and eastern Great Plains grain belts.
 
2018-02-10 08:32:55 AM  

WelldeadLink: Gonzo317: "WelldeadLink: southernmanblog: A few degrees warmer opens up vast tracts of new land

Something which we favor."

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We have a winner!

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In reality, we stand to lose more productive land than is gained, especially as warming exceeds 2 degrees by 2100. If we consider productivity in general, there lots is even greater. Not to mention the centuries in lag time between losing land and developing new soils at higher latitudes, or the problem with distribution.

No, melting tundra and permafrost in Canada does not somehow make up for loss of subsistence farming in sub-Saharan Africa, as an example.
 
2018-02-10 08:37:51 AM  

WelldeadLink: But a different study said that warming will offset the cooling. Thanks, computer.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/​2018/02/180206105858.htm


[Facepalm]

It's the exact same study. Also:

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2018-02-10 05:52:56 PM  
Why is Fark linking to Business Sites for SCIENCE ARTICLES?
 
2018-02-10 08:57:09 PM  

Dhusk: Why is Fark linking to Business Sites for SCIENCE ARTICLES?


When it's funny business.
 
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