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(Newsweek)   A sobering statistic from Puerto Rico as 257 residents committed suicide in 2017 post-Hurricane Maria   ( newsweek.com) divider line
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2018-02-09 01:57:29 AM  
Good news everyone, subby made a typo.  It was only 253.
 
2018-02-09 03:09:22 AM  
Ok, what is the average rate and standard deviation from before the hurricane?
 
2018-02-09 03:18:39 AM  

itcamefromschenectady: Ok, what is the average rate and standard deviation from before the hurricane?


Also, doesn't the suicide rate always go up at the end of the year?  Not saying that this isn't concerning, but if 253 of approximately 3,600,000 commit suicide, that's probably just par for the course.
 
2018-02-09 03:21:02 AM  

biggamehickman: itcamefromschenectady: Ok, what is the average rate and standard deviation from before the hurricane?

Also, doesn't the suicide rate always go up at the end of the year?  Not saying that this isn't concerning, but if 253 of approximately 3,600,000 commit suicide, that's probably just par for the course.


TFA: More than 200 Puerto Ricans committed suicide in 2017, a 29-percent increase from the prior year's suicide rate...The suicide rate had significantly dropped in 2016 by 21 percent from 2015, but it had increased again this year.
 
2018-02-09 03:24:43 AM  

davidphogan: biggamehickman: itcamefromschenectady: Ok, what is the average rate and standard deviation from before the hurricane?

Also, doesn't the suicide rate always go up at the end of the year?  Not saying that this isn't concerning, but if 253 of approximately 3,600,000 commit suicide, that's probably just par for the course.

TFA: More than 200 Puerto Ricans committed suicide in 2017, a 29-percent increase from the prior year's suicide rate...The suicide rate had significantly dropped in 2016 by 21 percent from 2015, but it had increased again this year.


I would too. See what shaithole govt will do for you.
 
2018-02-09 03:27:36 AM  
No they didn't.

Unless you change it to pre, during and post Hurricane Maria.
 
2018-02-09 03:30:16 AM  

tpmchris: davidphogan: biggamehickman: itcamefromschenectady: Ok, what is the average rate and standard deviation from before the hurricane?

Also, doesn't the suicide rate always go up at the end of the year?  Not saying that this isn't concerning, but if 253 of approximately 3,600,000 commit suicide, that's probably just par for the course.

TFA: More than 200 Puerto Ricans committed suicide in 2017, a 29-percent increase from the prior year's suicide rate...The suicide rate had significantly dropped in 2016 by 21 percent from 2015, but it had increased again this year.

I would too. See what shaithole govt will do for you.


Trump brought Paper Towels.  If that doesn't cure your depression, I don't think anything will.
 
2018-02-09 03:40:11 AM  

davidphogan: biggamehickman: itcamefromschenectady: Ok, what is the average rate and standard deviation from before the hurricane?

Also, doesn't the suicide rate always go up at the end of the year?  Not saying that this isn't concerning, but if 253 of approximately 3,600,000 commit suicide, that's probably just par for the course.

TFA: More than 200 Puerto Ricans committed suicide in 2017, a 29-percent increase from the prior year's suicide rate...The suicide rate had significantly dropped in 2016 by 21 percent from 2015, but it had increased again this year.


Ok, so 79% * 129% = 102%. That's a 2% increase since 2015. Doesn't answer my question about the standard deviation of yearly figures, but given 20-30% fluctuations, it must be large.
 
2018-02-09 03:49:42 AM  

biggamehickman: itcamefromschenectady: Ok, what is the average rate and standard deviation from before the hurricane?

Also, doesn't the suicide rate always go up at the end of the year?  Not saying that this isn't concerning, but if 253 of approximately 3,600,000 commit suicide, that's probably just par for the course.


Actually, the suicide rate for both men and women is highest in May and June in the US.
 
2018-02-09 03:56:23 AM  

davidphogan: Good news everyone, subby made a typo.  It was only 253.


253 isn't a Mersenne number tho...
 
2018-02-09 03:57:09 AM  

davidphogan: biggamehickman: itcamefromschenectady: Ok, what is the average rate and standard deviation from before the hurricane?

Also, doesn't the suicide rate always go up at the end of the year?  Not saying that this isn't concerning, but if 253 of approximately 3,600,000 commit suicide, that's probably just par for the course.

TFA: More than 200 Puerto Ricans committed suicide in 2017, a 29-percent increase from the prior year's suicide rate...The suicide rate had significantly dropped in 2016 by 21 percent from 2015, but it had increased again this year.


Thanks, Trump.
 
2018-02-09 03:58:33 AM  
Yeah the myth of increased suicides during the holidays is unfounded.  When I worked crisis intervention from Thanksgiving to the 2nd week of January was by far our slowest time and everyone was encouraged to take their PTO.
 
2018-02-09 04:05:05 AM  
More paper towels can fix this problem
 
2018-02-09 04:18:01 AM  

itcamefromschenectady: davidphogan: biggamehickman: itcamefromschenectady: Ok, what is the average rate and standard deviation from before the hurricane?

Also, doesn't the suicide rate always go up at the end of the year?  Not saying that this isn't concerning, but if 253 of approximately 3,600,000 commit suicide, that's probably just par for the course.

TFA: More than 200 Puerto Ricans committed suicide in 2017, a 29-percent increase from the prior year's suicide rate...The suicide rate had significantly dropped in 2016 by 21 percent from 2015, but it had increased again this year.

Ok, so 79% * 129% = 102%. That's a 2% increase since 2015. Doesn't answer my question about the standard deviation of yearly figures, but given 20-30% fluctuations, it must be large.


You're welcome to do your own poking around but there's articles about the increase in suicides back in November and one source says there's been a decline in suicides from 2010-2017. I get the impression that immediately after the hurricaine, officials on the island knew this was an uptick.
 
2018-02-09 04:20:34 AM  

Zevon's Evil Twin: biggamehickman: itcamefromschenectady: Ok, what is the average rate and standard deviation from before the hurricane?

Also, doesn't the suicide rate always go up at the end of the year?  Not saying that this isn't concerning, but if 253 of approximately 3,600,000 commit suicide, that's probably just par for the course.

Actually, the suicide rate for both men and women is highest in May and June in the US.


Interesting, end of spring and early summer. Is there any theory as to why this time of year has the highest rate?
 
2018-02-09 04:21:48 AM  

haknudsen: Yeah the myth of increased suicides during the holidays is unfounded.  When I worked crisis intervention from Thanksgiving to the 2nd week of January was by far our slowest time and everyone was encouraged to take their PTO.


If you off yourself before Christmas, you don't get presents.
 
2018-02-09 04:23:40 AM  

Zevon's Evil Twin: biggamehickman: itcamefromschenectady: Ok, what is the average rate and standard deviation from before the hurricane?

Also, doesn't the suicide rate always go up at the end of the year?  Not saying that this isn't concerning, but if 253 of approximately 3,600,000 commit suicide, that's probably just par for the course.

Actually, the suicide rate for both men and women is highest in May and June in the US.


Why is that?

I tend to get the most down during February when it seems like this goddammed winter just won't farking end! It's dark when you wake up for work and it's dark by the time you get home and it's gray and it's cold and where is my gun!
 
2018-02-09 04:36:34 AM  

Boo_Guy: Zevon's Evil Twin: biggamehickman: itcamefromschenectady: Ok, what is the average rate and standard deviation from before the hurricane?

Also, doesn't the suicide rate always go up at the end of the year?  Not saying that this isn't concerning, but if 253 of approximately 3,600,000 commit suicide, that's probably just par for the course.

Actually, the suicide rate for both men and women is highest in May and June in the US.

Why is that?

I tend to get the most down during February when it seems like this goddammed winter just won't farking end! It's dark when you wake up for work and it's dark by the time you get home and it's gray and it's cold and where is my gun!


Spring gives a burst of energy. But the truth is people kill themselves any time of the year and the things that can trigger an impulsive suicide happen any time of the year. If someone's depressed they can use support whenever. Of course, don't confuse depression with Seasonal Affective Disorder, not that they don't both suck.
 
2018-02-09 04:53:53 AM  
Rose McGowan's ex-manager just committed suicide because Rose #YOUKNEW'ed her and ol' Harv published a private email.

But the facts seem to be, she didn't know, she took the info and went up the ladder with it.
She was then kept out of the loop.
It was then between upper management, Rose, legal people on her and ol' Harv's side.
 
2018-02-09 04:58:23 AM  

UsikFark: itcamefromschenectady: davidphogan: biggamehickman: itcamefromschenectady: Ok, what is the average rate and standard deviation from before the hurricane?

Also, doesn't the suicide rate always go up at the end of the year?  Not saying that this isn't concerning, but if 253 of approximately 3,600,000 commit suicide, that's probably just par for the course.

TFA: More than 200 Puerto Ricans committed suicide in 2017, a 29-percent increase from the prior year's suicide rate...The suicide rate had significantly dropped in 2016 by 21 percent from 2015, but it had increased again this year.

Ok, so 79% * 129% = 102%. That's a 2% increase since 2015. Doesn't answer my question about the standard deviation of yearly figures, but given 20-30% fluctuations, it must be large.

You're welcome to do your own poking around but there's articles about the increase in suicides back in November and one source says there's been a decline in suicides from 2010-2017. I get the impression that immediately after the hurricaine, officials on the island knew this was an uptick.


I don't usually do extensive research into misleading clickbait, so I am wondering if you can elucidate why there is more to it. Do I have too much context for the headline, or not enough?
 
2018-02-09 05:06:36 AM  

Nidiot: Zevon's Evil Twin: biggamehickman: itcamefromschenectady: Ok, what is the average rate and standard deviation from before the hurricane?

Also, doesn't the suicide rate always go up at the end of the year?  Not saying that this isn't concerning, but if 253 of approximately 3,600,000 commit suicide, that's probably just par for the course.

Actually, the suicide rate for both men and women is highest in May and June in the US.

Interesting, end of spring and early summer. Is there any theory as to why this time of year has the highest rate?


I can suggest two.
When spring arrives, most people have an upswing in their mood which makes those in the throes of depression feel even worse by comparison.  The world renews itself, life is bursting out all over and they're still "stuck."
When "maybe I'll feel better when the weather gets better" doesn't pan out--it can be devastating.
After the winter of the long, lingering deaths of my folks--I actually hated the birds singing in the trees.

Having made it through the holidays, they have fulfilled their last perceived obligation to family and friends. I believe, contrary to popular opinion, that rather than being "selfish" many suicides "care too much".
Viewing ones self as a failure and a disappointment to others does not happen in a vacuum.  Oft times, it is the effects on others that leads to "The world would be better off without me."
Who wants to leave the legacy of every moment of the holidays being overshadowed by the fact, "Now is when my Mom, Dad, brother, sister, friend killed themselves."
 
2018-02-09 05:15:35 AM  

itcamefromschenectady: UsikFark: itcamefromschenectady: davidphogan: biggamehickman: itcamefromschenectady: Ok, what is the average rate and standard deviation from before the hurricane?

Also, doesn't the suicide rate always go up at the end of the year?  Not saying that this isn't concerning, but if 253 of approximately 3,600,000 commit suicide, that's probably just par for the course.

TFA: More than 200 Puerto Ricans committed suicide in 2017, a 29-percent increase from the prior year's suicide rate...The suicide rate had significantly dropped in 2016 by 21 percent from 2015, but it had increased again this year.

Ok, so 79% * 129% = 102%. That's a 2% increase since 2015. Doesn't answer my question about the standard deviation of yearly figures, but given 20-30% fluctuations, it must be large.

You're welcome to do your own poking around but there's articles about the increase in suicides back in November and one source says there's been a decline in suicides from 2010-2017. I get the impression that immediately after the hurricaine, officials on the island knew this was an uptick.

I don't usually do extensive research into misleading clickbait, so I am wondering if you can elucidate why there is more to it. Do I have too much context for the headline, or not enough?


Well if it's reversing a seven-year trend it might be more than clickbait material.
 
2018-02-09 05:23:48 AM  
This sort of article does not help - it does not arouse the consciences of Trump fans - it arouses their blood lust.
They applaud these events, and regard them as features - not bugs.
 
2018-02-09 05:27:57 AM  

UsikFark: Well if it's reversing a seven-year trend it might be more than clickbait material.


Even if you can get a Trumpster to acknowledge this - their reaction will be: "Good! - So what? A bunch of SJW/women/queers/libs got triggered out of their safe spaces and an heroed! Yaaayy!!"
You cannot arouse the conscience of a subhuman who lacks one.
 
2018-02-09 05:37:01 AM  

jso2897: This sort of article does not help - it does not arouse the consciences of Trump fans - it arouses their blood lust.
They applaud these events, and regard them as features - not bugs.


that's a ridiculous thing to say. your imagination runs amuck.
 
2018-02-09 05:40:03 AM  

itcamefromschenectady: Ok, what is the average rate and standard deviation from before the hurricane?


Two.  No wait.  It's four.  Oh crap it's back down to two again.   Hold on, it's hovering around 4 again.
 
2018-02-09 05:41:23 AM  

sinko swimo: jso2897: This sort of article does not help - it does not arouse the consciences of Trump fans - it arouses their blood lust.
They applaud these events, and regard them as features - not bugs.

that's a ridiculous thing to say. your imagination runs amuck.


Prove it.
Protip - you can't.
 
2018-02-09 05:48:43 AM  

UsikFark: itcamefromschenectady: UsikFark: itcamefromschenectady: davidphogan: biggamehickman: itcamefromschenectady: Ok, what is the average rate and standard deviation from before the hurricane?

Also, doesn't the suicide rate always go up at the end of the year?  Not saying that this isn't concerning, but if 253 of approximately 3,600,000 commit suicide, that's probably just par for the course.

TFA: More than 200 Puerto Ricans committed suicide in 2017, a 29-percent increase from the prior year's suicide rate...The suicide rate had significantly dropped in 2016 by 21 percent from 2015, but it had increased again this year.

Ok, so 79% * 129% = 102%. That's a 2% increase since 2015. Doesn't answer my question about the standard deviation of yearly figures, but given 20-30% fluctuations, it must be large.

You're welcome to do your own poking around but there's articles about the increase in suicides back in November and one source says there's been a decline in suicides from 2010-2017. I get the impression that immediately after the hurricaine, officials on the island knew this was an uptick.

I don't usually do extensive research into misleading clickbait, so I am wondering if you can elucidate why there is more to it. Do I have too much context for the headline, or not enough?

Well if it's reversing a seven-year trend it might be more than clickbait material.


Yes, so why do you think there was a seven year trend? You just wrote that there was a decline from 2010 to 2017 - do you consider any two points to establish a trend?

It would really surprise me if suicides declined a steady 20% every year for seven years. I assume you aren't suggesting that is the case.
 
2018-02-09 05:52:52 AM  

Mitch Mitchell: itcamefromschenectady: Ok, what is the average rate and standard deviation from before the hurricane?

Two.  No wait.  It's four.  Oh crap it's back down to two again.   Hold on, it's hovering around 4 again.


What? The context is yearly figures.
 
2018-02-09 05:56:56 AM  

jso2897: UsikFark: Well if it's reversing a seven-year trend it might be more than clickbait material.

Even if you can get a Trumpster to acknowledge this - their reaction will be: "Good! - So what? A bunch of SJW/women/queers/libs got triggered out of their safe spaces and an heroed! Yaaayy!!"
You cannot arouse the conscience of a subhuman who lacks one.


Who's a Trumpster here?
 
2018-02-09 06:06:50 AM  

itcamefromschenectady: UsikFark: itcamefromschenectady: UsikFark: itcamefromschenectady: davidphogan: biggamehickman: itcamefromschenectady: Ok, what is the average rate and standard deviation from before the hurricane?

Also, doesn't the suicide rate always go up at the end of the year?  Not saying that this isn't concerning, but if 253 of approximately 3,600,000 commit suicide, that's probably just par for the course.

TFA: More than 200 Puerto Ricans committed suicide in 2017, a 29-percent increase from the prior year's suicide rate...The suicide rate had significantly dropped in 2016 by 21 percent from 2015, but it had increased again this year.

Ok, so 79% * 129% = 102%. That's a 2% increase since 2015. Doesn't answer my question about the standard deviation of yearly figures, but given 20-30% fluctuations, it must be large.

You're welcome to do your own poking around but there's articles about the increase in suicides back in November and one source says there's been a decline in suicides from 2010-2017. I get the impression that immediately after the hurricaine, officials on the island knew this was an uptick.

I don't usually do extensive research into misleading clickbait, so I am wondering if you can elucidate why there is more to it. Do I have too much context for the headline, or not enough?

Well if it's reversing a seven-year trend it might be more than clickbait material.

Yes, so why do you think there was a seven year trend? You just wrote that there was a decline from 2010 to 2017 - do you consider any two points to establish a trend?

It would really surprise me if suicides declined a steady 20% every year for seven years. I assume you aren't suggesting that is the case.


It's the case that the suicide rate declined for seven years. IDK where you get 20% from, it's not part of anything I typed.

While suicide rates have decreased in Puerto Rico since 2010, according to preliminary data, suicides in September and October of this year - in the aftermath of the hurricanes - were up roughly 30% compared to the same period for 2016. The data is likely to show only a piece of the full picture as non-functional telecommunications may have affected reports.

http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/pue​rto-rico-mental-health-crisis-article-​1.3740562
 
2018-02-09 06:09:38 AM  
At US standard rates you would predict 350-400 per year. Is this like the military veteran suicide rate, which is such a sudden and unexpected, and tragically neglected but also lower than the equivalent citizen demographics, except for Vietnam era vets? Or the must-fix spike in teenage girls suicide that has climbed to a third now of the rate for boys? Every instance is a tragedy for the people involved. This statistical bullshiat that reporters latch on to doesn't do anyone much good.
 
2018-02-09 06:53:35 AM  

UsikFark: It's the case that the suicide rate declined for seven years. IDK where you get 20% from, it's not part of anything I typed.


Somebody (I thought you, but maybe not) wrote that suicides declined 21% from 2015 to 2016. I took that as gospel, just rounding it to 20%.

While suicide rates have decreased in Puerto Rico since 2010, according to preliminary data, suicides in September and October of this year - in the aftermath of the hurricanes - were up roughly 30% compared to the same period for 2016. The data is likely to show only a piece of the full picture as non-functional telecommunications may have affected reports.

http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/pue​rto-rico-mental-health-crisis-article-​1.3740562


The link doesn't work for me. Your quote doesn't seem to add anything new to this discussion either, beyond what you previously wrote.

Based on what you quote, I understand the author is implying there's a trend, but I'm not sure it's really saying anything more than the 2017 figure was some amount lower than 2010. Maybe you are sure of what it means, in which case good for you.
 
2018-02-09 07:23:44 AM  
How does this compare to suicides after Andrew or Katrina.

If the place I lived was utterly devastated by a massive hurricane and I had lost basically everything then I might commit suicide. Yeah, maybe you can eventually rebuild, but sometimes it's just not worth it.
 
2018-02-09 07:27:41 AM  
in a completely unrelated story, autoerotic asphyxiation deaths are on the decline by 29% from last year in Puerto Rico.
 
2018-02-09 07:30:16 AM  
Subby 'tarded?

Subby: 257 [Puerto Ricans] committed suicide in 2017 post-Hurricane Maria [i.e., three months]

Article: 253 Puerto Ricans have committed suicide in 2017 [the whole year]
 
2018-02-09 08:10:24 AM  
Is that a lot considering the population and the passage of...4 months?
 
2018-02-09 08:11:51 AM  
Ah...there it is.  29% increase.  75 more people than average .
 
2018-02-09 09:37:52 AM  

itcamefromschenectady: jso2897: UsikFark: Well if it's reversing a seven-year trend it might be more than clickbait material.

Even if you can get a Trumpster to acknowledge this - their reaction will be: "Good! - So what? A bunch of SJW/women/queers/libs got triggered out of their safe spaces and an heroed! Yaaayy!!"
You cannot arouse the conscience of a subhuman who lacks one.

Who's a Trumpster here?


I am.  Welcome to Fark.
 
2018-02-09 10:08:17 AM  
Interesting that TFA

ArcadianRefugee: Subby 'tarded?

Subby: 257 [Puerto Ricans] committed suicide in 2017 post-Hurricane Maria [i.e., three months]

Article: 253 Puerto Ricans have committed suicide in 2017 [the whole year]


There's a lot of tard to go around here.

From TFA:  20 suicides in Dec. 2017
Newsweek in Jan.:    26 suicides in Novemebr
NYT from Nov. 13th 2017:  32 suicides from 9/20 to 11/13 (approximate)

That works out to a suicide rate of 0.66 per day before the hurricane and 0.69 per day after.

Stop taking this shiat at face value.  Especially Trump but not only Trump.
 
2018-02-09 12:06:14 PM  
Come and talk to me when Mueller can  link the deaths to rolls of paper towels flying through the air
 
2018-02-09 12:15:11 PM  

itcamefromschenectady: UsikFark: It's the case that the suicide rate declined for seven years. IDK where you get 20% from, it's not part of anything I typed.

Somebody (I thought you, but maybe not) wrote that suicides declined 21% from 2015 to 2016. I took that as gospel, just rounding it to 20%.

While suicide rates have decreased in Puerto Rico since 2010, according to preliminary data, suicides in September and October of this year - in the aftermath of the hurricanes - were up roughly 30% compared to the same period for 2016. The data is likely to show only a piece of the full picture as non-functional telecommunications may have affected reports.

http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/pue​rto-rico-mental-health-crisis-article-​1.3740562

The link doesn't work for me. Your quote doesn't seem to add anything new to this discussion either, beyond what you previously wrote.

Based on what you quote, I understand the author is implying there's a trend, but I'm not sure it's really saying anything more than the 2017 figure was some amount lower than 2010. Maybe you are sure of what it means, in which case good for you.


I think you're being obtuse. This data is collected each year so it's really silly to assume what you're assuming when I type 2010-2017 ... here's a chart where you can see the decline and why the rise is significant:

img.fark.netView Full Size
 
2018-02-09 12:33:04 PM  
Just weeding out the people that are not Boot Strappy enough.
 
2018-02-10 03:19:25 AM  

biggamehickman: tpmchris: davidphogan: biggamehickman: itcamefromschenectady: Ok, what is the average rate and standard deviation from before the hurricane?

Also, doesn't the suicide rate always go up at the end of the year?  Not saying that this isn't concerning, but if 253 of approximately 3,600,000 commit suicide, that's probably just par for the course.

TFA: More than 200 Puerto Ricans committed suicide in 2017, a 29-percent increase from the prior year's suicide rate...The suicide rate had significantly dropped in 2016 by 21 percent from 2015, but it had increased again this year.

I would too. See what shaithole govt will do for you.

Trump brought Paper Towels.  If that doesn't cure your depression, I don't think anything will.


Here he is assisting California wildfire victims:
img.fark.netView Full Size
 
2018-02-10 03:21:42 AM  

Nidiot: Zevon's Evil Twin: biggamehickman: itcamefromschenectady: Ok, what is the average rate and standard deviation from before the hurricane?

Also, doesn't the suicide rate always go up at the end of the year?  Not saying that this isn't concerning, but if 253 of approximately 3,600,000 commit suicide, that's probably just par for the course.

Actually, the suicide rate for both men and women is highest in May and June in the US.

Interesting, end of spring and early summer. Is there any theory as to why this time of year has the highest rate?


Graduation?
 
2018-02-10 03:25:34 AM  

GreatGlavinsGhost: biggamehickman: tpmchris: davidphogan: biggamehickman: itcamefromschenectady: Ok, what is the average rate and standard deviation from before the hurricane?

Also, doesn't the suicide rate always go up at the end of the year?  Not saying that this isn't concerning, but if 253 of approximately 3,600,000 commit suicide, that's probably just par for the course.

TFA: More than 200 Puerto Ricans committed suicide in 2017, a 29-percent increase from the prior year's suicide rate...The suicide rate had significantly dropped in 2016 by 21 percent from 2015, but it had increased again this year.

I would too. See what shaithole govt will do for you.

Trump brought Paper Towels.  If that doesn't cure your depression, I don't think anything will.

Here he is assisting California wildfire victims:
[img.fark.net image 425x242]


I don't want to see him try to help sex workers.
 
2018-02-10 07:54:46 AM  

UsikFark: itcamefromschenectady: UsikFark: It's the case that the suicide rate declined for seven years. IDK where you get 20% from, it's not part of anything I typed.

Somebody (I thought you, but maybe not) wrote that suicides declined 21% from 2015 to 2016. I took that as gospel, just rounding it to 20%.

While suicide rates have decreased in Puerto Rico since 2010, according to preliminary data, suicides in September and October of this year - in the aftermath of the hurricanes - were up roughly 30% compared to the same period for 2016. The data is likely to show only a piece of the full picture as non-functional telecommunications may have affected reports.

http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/pue​rto-rico-mental-health-crisis-article-​1.3740562

The link doesn't work for me. Your quote doesn't seem to add anything new to this discussion either, beyond what you previously wrote.

Based on what you quote, I understand the author is implying there's a trend, but I'm not sure it's really saying anything more than the 2017 figure was some amount lower than 2010. Maybe you are sure of what it means, in which case good for you.

I think you're being obtuse. This data is collected each year so it's really silly to assume what you're assuming when I type 2010-2017 ... here's a chart where you can see the decline and why the rise is significant:

[img.fark.net image 425x708]


Here's a quick & dirty Excel graph:

img.fark.netView Full Size


Visually I don't see an overall trend, and I see that it seems to be the case that 2016 had the lowest rate in the last 17 years, so the sharp increase in 2017 looks like reversion to the mean.

I really appreciate you going to the effort of finding the data, but I also feel kinda vindicated that this article was misleading clickbait all along, which is why I didn't bother to research it myself.
 
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