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2018-02-08 10:40:38 PM  
37 votes:
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2018-02-09 08:11:47 AM  
26 votes:
I'm less concerned about the gender of the person sharing the restroom with me as I am the stench level they're going to create. Instead of separating by gender, I'd rather have one restroom devoted to (non-asparagus-related) tinkling and light deuce-dropping (but only if you haven't recently eaten Mexican/Indian food), and one for folks planning on those force-five shiatstorm dumps where they unleash a basketball-size chocolate mud baby or spray a big old spicy fudge dragon all over the toilet that turns the air purple and blows out three fluorescent tubes.
2018-02-08 10:13:56 PM  
24 votes:
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2018-02-08 09:29:13 PM  
24 votes:
Oh yeah, OK

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2018-02-09 07:17:48 AM  
19 votes:

ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha: Wait, Walgreens has public restrooms?


Everywhere is a public restroom, if you're brave enough.
2018-02-09 08:26:23 AM  
12 votes:
I mean, maybe under really bad lighting (like in your typical Walgreens), the clerk mistook her from Kevin from The Wonder Years.

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2018-02-09 11:19:20 AM  
10 votes:
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2018-02-08 10:32:58 PM  
8 votes:
Why would you go to Walgreens to go to the bathroom? Home Depot is way less judgy, understaffed.
2018-02-09 06:07:43 AM  
7 votes:

simplicimus: No Austin Powers reference yet?


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2018-02-09 11:41:30 AM  
4 votes:
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2018-02-09 08:29:54 AM  
4 votes:

Prank Call of Cthulhu: I'm less concerned about the gender of the person sharing the restroom with me as I am the stench level they're going to create. Instead of separating by gender, I'd rather have one restroom devoted to (non-asparagus-related) tinkling and light deuce-dropping (but only if you haven't recently eaten Mexican/Indian food), and one for folks planning on those force-five shiatstorm dumps where they unleash a basketball-size chocolate mud baby or spray a big old spicy fudge dragon all over the toilet that turns the air purple and blows out three fluorescent tubes.


My in-laws remodeled their bathroom a few years ago, got one of those fancy two-button "dual-flush" toilets; I'd never seen one before so I asked if you could push both buttons at once to tackle the occasional "number three", they pretended not to know what I was talking about...
2018-02-09 05:43:59 AM  
4 votes:
Back in my day, customers would just shait on the floors and walls in protest.
2018-02-09 02:01:01 PM  
3 votes:
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2018-02-09 11:31:47 AM  
3 votes:
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2018-02-09 10:29:23 AM  
3 votes:

big pig peaches: oryx: I don't believe any of this happened. You'd have to believe Walgreen's had a bathroom attendant on duty checking to see if you were going to the "correct" bathroom. It;s ridiculous.

This.

Plus it being a Walgreens on Sunset Blvd in LA makes this doubly hard to believe.


You have to ask for a key at the pharmacy or front counter to get into the bathrooms there. If they didn't do that, they'd have issues with everything from theft to homeless people trying to set up camp in the stalls - like we have had happen where I work, most recently last month.

"What were you going to do when everyone left and the doors were locked?"
"Move over to the bedding department".

It's always good to have a plan, I guess.
2018-02-09 08:48:45 AM  
3 votes:

grumpfuff: Greek: Because women all have long hair.

As a dude with long hair working retail, with a short-haired female co-worker, I can tell you this is a prevailing sentiment, and not just with bigots.

/has had to condition himself to at least turn around for "ma'am" or "miss"
//most people see the ponytail and assume


You just need an epic enough beard for them to notice even when you're turned away from them.

/still get ma'amed
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2018-02-09 06:51:16 AM  
3 votes:
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2018-02-08 10:01:28 PM  
3 votes:
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2018-02-08 08:55:54 PM  
3 votes:
Wait, Walgreens has public restrooms?
2018-02-09 08:08:11 PM  
2 votes:

mrwippl3: I call BS on the employees.  They didn't think she's a man, they were just being a total @sshats.  That this is an issue in 2018 and that the employees involved weren't terminated is an indictment on where we are as a culture.

/I get called ma'am periodically and I have a large red beard and a deeper voice.  I figure its a mistake and just laugh about it.


I get called 'sir' quite a lot, though I have long hair and pretty big breasts, and usually wear a skirt or dress. I guess I do look a bit butch.
2018-02-09 05:01:48 PM  
2 votes:
What's so hard about just going in the bathroom that matches your sex? If you want to see d!cks in the ladies room, just go to pornhub like the rest of us.
2018-02-09 10:53:02 AM  
2 votes:

RedHeadLover: Alcaste: RedHeadLover: "...didn't put up much of a fight and used the stall while the men used the urinals next to me," Meehan wrote in an email to Walgreens. "This in itself was very humiliating for me and I felt extremely uncomfortable."
THEN
California law, "which protects every person's right to access restrooms based on their gender identity in workplaces, schools and business establishments."

Not being snarky, but wondering....she wouldn't be uncomfortable if the same thing had happened in the women's bathroom with a man identifying as a woman but peeing standing up?  Or she would still?

obvious transphobia aside, you do know that there aren't urinals in the ladies' room.
You do know I was referring to peeing in the toilet while standing up, right?


In a stall, my dude. Bathrooms usually have stalls. Being uncomfortable in her case was because she was surrounded by men in the men's bathroom as a woman. In your hypothetical scenario, the only thing that's different from any other bathroom encounter is what way someone's shoes are facing.

But when you said "man identifying as a woman" you not only showed your hand, your fumbled the entire deck onto the table and knocked all the chips over.
2018-02-09 10:20:54 AM  
2 votes:

Prank Call of Cthulhu: I'm less concerned about the gender of the person sharing the restroom with me as I am the stench level they're going to create. Instead of separating by gender, I'd rather have one restroom devoted to (non-asparagus-related) tinkling and light deuce-dropping (but only if you haven't recently eaten Mexican/Indian food), and one for folks planning on those force-five shiatstorm dumps where they unleash a basketball-size chocolate mud baby or spray a big old spicy fudge dragon all over the toilet that turns the air purple and blows out three fluorescent tubes.


My wife made crock-pot seven-bean diced ham soup the other day, so I completely understand your point.
2018-02-09 09:27:02 AM  
2 votes:

grumpfuff: Greek: Because women all have long hair.

As a dude with long hair working retail, with a short-haired female co-worker, I can tell you this is a prevailing sentiment, and not just with bigots.

/has had to condition himself to at least turn around for "ma'am" or "miss"
//most people see the ponytail and assume


And the sign said long haired freaky people need not apply.
So I tucked my hair up under my hat and I went in to ask him why.
He said, "You look like a fine, upstanding young man, I think you'll do."
So I took off my hat and said, "Imagine that! Huh! Me, working for you!"
2018-02-09 09:09:03 AM  
2 votes:

grumpfuff: Greek: Because women all have long hair.

As a dude with long hair working retail, with a short-haired female co-worker, I can tell you this is a prevailing sentiment, and not just with bigots.

/has had to condition himself to at least turn around for "ma'am" or "miss"
//most people see the ponytail and assume


Long, long ago I was waiting to pick my brother up from work, sitting in the car at the back of the store, with the back door to the building open so I could see through it to the front (Alphagraphix). Someone had asked my brother if his mom was waiting for him, as I apparently looked like a haggard old woman, as it was described with my long, black hair.

I also used to have a moustache (back in 1999), and wear glasses. I took my day off work, and came back to be laughingly told someone had come in and asked for the fat Weird Al guy.

I shaved my face and cut my hair the following day.
2018-02-09 08:42:20 AM  
2 votes:

Greek: Log from Blammo: What a woman who might be mistaken for a man might look like:

YouTube video from ACLU SoCal for Jessie Meehan

Uh... They thought THAT person was a man? To the point where they weren't willing to accept a simple "I'm a woman" from her? Wow. Sounds like a couple of employees who were dead set on stopping an evil trans from going in the "wrong" restroom on pride day, and just went for the first woman they saw with short hair. Because women all have long hair.


Yea but you haven't heard her talk, she makes Dr. Girlfriend sound like a squeeze toy by comparison.
2018-02-10 03:52:18 PM  
1 vote:

ChicagoKev: Eclectic: WilderKWight: Bottom line:  Looks aren't enough to tell where someone should "officially" be peeing, and what's under their clothes is none of your damn business.

Thank you! The birth-certificate madness has to stop. The impending Prop 1 in Anchorage this year goes so far as to specify "original birth certificate " for bathroom access. ...

Go use the men's room for "public safety". Enjoy your inevitable harassment and possibe bonus beating for the greater good.

Seriously, fark these people.

Alaska is an open carry state.    Once the bigots see the 1911 on your waist, they're less likely to scrutinize the rest of you for secondary sexual characteristics.


Who the f looks at anyone in the bathroom?

Unless you were buying cocaine in the 90s...
2018-02-09 02:51:15 PM  
1 vote:

Eclectic: ChicagoKev: Everybody likes to pretend the opposition is about trans folk, but that's a strawman at best. People prefer the status quo: zero tolerance for any manly-looking perv loitering in the ladies room.

Then please explain to thos of us who are directly and negatively affected by trans bathroom panic why GOP/fundamentalists are crafting laws that specify "original birth certificate" as the sole determinant for bathroom privileges. Trans people in *most* states can get their state ids updated to reflect their new gender. The US state department issues passports with new gender markers. Those are good enough to get into a foreign country, but apparently not a bathroom in some jurisdictions. IF trans people were a diversion/strawman, then the bill would be crafted to call for a much looser standard than original birth certificate. But no, they aren't. They are SPECIFICALLY crafted to target the trans community. "Keeping pervs out of bathrooms" is just the side effect.

And really, the people pushing these laws seem to have forgotten about trans men, whom they want to send to the women's room where there WILL be problems, because the women in there will assume they're pervy rapists invading their space.

Wait, maybe that's the plan. Shame the trans women and keep them terrified of public restrooms, and put trans men in a position of having the cops called when they need to pee. Sigh.


I am almost 100% certain the mean conservatives weren't touching you in scary places before activists started yammering about enshrining in law letting anybody go into whatever bathroom they want.  If people used the bathroom that matched their outward appearance like the status quo since bathrooms there would be no need to have any kind of law.  The worst outcome, IMO, is to create laws that state anybody can self-identify as anything in terms of bathroom and locker room usage.  The number of problems it solves is near zero while it creates a lot of potential problems with giving pervs legal access.
2018-02-09 01:53:39 PM  
1 vote:
Everybody likes to pretend the opposition is about trans folk, but that's a strawman at best.   People prefer the status quo: zero tolerance for any manly-looking perv loitering in the ladies room.

eKonk: I'm going to go on the record that, while in principle I don't care which bathroom anyone uses, I am opposed to a shared unisex bathroom.


I've got no objection to single-user unisex bathrooms, opposed to shared unisex facilities.    Mostly because that' becomes as an excuse to tear out urinals, ensuring everybody is equally inconvenienced by the slow throughput of stalls.  For all the social awkwardness of a wall full of urinals with maybe a tiny partition between, it is efficient.
2018-02-09 11:14:00 AM  
1 vote:
Someone who identifies with a different gender than their body parts dictate may feel uncomfortable using the bathroom of their birth gender.

People using a bathroom and having someone physically of the opposite gender come in will also feel uncomfortable.

We will eventually have to make one person bathrooms everywhere to protect everyone's rights and feelings.

Bathrooms are no longer about bodily functions.  They are now a political issue.
2018-02-09 11:00:33 AM  
1 vote:
Bonus round!

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2018-02-09 10:59:58 AM  
1 vote:
Round three. . .

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2018-02-09 10:58:33 AM  
1 vote:
Round two. . .

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2018-02-09 10:57:10 AM  
1 vote:
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2018-02-09 10:47:35 AM  
1 vote:

Alcaste: RedHeadLover: "...didn't put up much of a fight and used the stall while the men used the urinals next to me," Meehan wrote in an email to Walgreens. "This in itself was very humiliating for me and I felt extremely uncomfortable."
THEN
California law, "which protects every person's right to access restrooms based on their gender identity in workplaces, schools and business establishments."

Not being snarky, but wondering....she wouldn't be uncomfortable if the same thing had happened in the women's bathroom with a man identifying as a woman but peeing standing up?  Or she would still?

obvious transphobia aside, you do know that there aren't urinals in the ladies' room.

You do know I was referring to peeing in the toilet while standing up, right?
2018-02-09 10:12:10 AM  
1 vote:
"...didn't put up much of a fight and used the stall while the men used the urinals next to me," Meehan wrote in an email to Walgreens. "This in itself was very humiliating for me and I felt extremely uncomfortable."
THEN
California law, "which protects every person's right to access restrooms based on their gender identity in workplaces, schools and business establishments."

Not being snarky, but wondering....she wouldn't be uncomfortable if the same thing had happened in the women's bathroom with a man identifying as a woman but peeing standing up?  Or she would still?
2018-02-09 09:11:35 AM  
1 vote:
If some chick wants to dress up like a dude to see my wang I say go right ahead.
2018-02-09 08:39:44 AM  
1 vote:

grumpfuff: Greek: Because women all have long hair.

As a dude with long hair working retail, with a short-haired female co-worker, I can tell you this is a prevailing sentiment, and not just with bigots.

/has had to condition himself to at least turn around for "ma'am" or "miss"
//most people see the ponytail and assume


You got a nice tail eh?
2018-02-09 08:34:33 AM  
1 vote:

Greek: Because women all have long hair.


As a dude with long hair working retail, with a short-haired female co-worker, I can tell you this is a prevailing sentiment, and not just with bigots.

/has had to condition himself to at least turn around for "ma'am" or "miss"
//most people see the ponytail and assume
2018-02-09 08:27:38 AM  
1 vote:

TheSubjunctive: But the Walgreens at Sunset and Vine?


That was the part that got me. Your store is located in Hollyweird, and in the battle of "funny looking folks shouldn't be going potty" this is the hill you're going to die on?
2018-02-09 08:25:25 AM  
1 vote:

Prank Call of Cthulhu: Not perhaps the most feminine of creatures, but if you think this is a dude, you need your eyes examined.


I mean, maybe, I could see the employees of Walgreens in Spencer, Iowa being that clueless.  But the Walgreens at Sunset and Vine?  Seriously?

/ right up my hetero cis-male alley
// may have hit on more lesbians than not in college
2018-02-09 08:23:19 AM  
1 vote:
There's no apostrophe in Walgreens. And for you old farts, it's not pronounced "wool grins" either. It's also not Walmart.
2018-02-09 08:21:47 AM  
1 vote:

Prank Call of Cthulhu: Not perhaps the most feminine of creatures, but if you think this is a dude, you need your eyes examined.

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Not with a forklift.
2018-02-09 08:12:05 AM  
1 vote:
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2018-02-09 12:47:55 AM  
1 vote:
No Austin Powers reference yet?
2018-02-09 12:03:15 AM  
1 vote:

vudukungfu: Was it Steven Tyler?

Or Tyler Perry?


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