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2018-02-08 07:47:25 PM  
Huh. That's actually a good story - Walgreen's did the right thing, without requiring litigation, or ridiculous posturing, or any of the other bullshiat we've seen from other stores. And, they didn't take advantage of the situation, either - they simply said, "yep, that's broken, we'll fix it, thanks" and then fixed it.

Nice. We need to see more of that.
 
2018-02-08 08:11:36 PM  
In before the inevitable "why do they have to be so political" bullsh*t from certain members of the population like what happened with Target.
 
2018-02-08 08:30:32 PM  
What a woman who might be mistaken for a man might look like:

YouTube video from ACLU SoCal for Jessie Meehan
 
2018-02-08 08:55:54 PM  
Wait, Walgreens has public restrooms?
 
2018-02-08 09:29:13 PM  
Oh yeah, OK

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2018-02-08 09:56:11 PM  

FormlessOne: Huh. That's actually a good story - Walgreen's did the right thing, without requiring litigation, or ridiculous posturing, or any of the other bullshiat we've seen from other stores. And, they didn't take advantage of the situation, either - they simply said, "yep, that's broken, we'll fix it, thanks" and then fixed it.

Nice. We need to see more of that.


Well, she did have to get the ACLU involved.

Two months later, when no action was taken, ACLU staff attorney Amanda Goad sent a letter to Walgreens laying out the California law,
 
2018-02-08 09:58:49 PM  
Was it Steven Tyler?

Or Tyler Perry?
 
2018-02-08 10:00:18 PM  
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Advertisement on kiosk just outside the entrance and, coincidentally, the very song playing in the Muzak rotation as the conversation took place.
 
2018-02-08 10:01:28 PM  
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2018-02-08 10:13:56 PM  
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2018-02-08 10:32:58 PM  
Why would you go to Walgreens to go to the bathroom? Home Depot is way less judgy, understaffed.
 
2018-02-08 10:40:38 PM  
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2018-02-09 12:03:15 AM  

vudukungfu: Was it Steven Tyler?

Or Tyler Perry?


Aerosmith - Dude (Looks Like A Lady)
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2018-02-09 12:47:55 AM  
No Austin Powers reference yet?
 
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2018-02-09 03:37:11 AM  
At least around here, the restrooms there are not monitored, few would see you use them let alone raise alarm. Mine are all big box store types where real estate allows them.

Fark you if you are that much of a busybody. And bless your heart it a Walgreens, CVS, rite aid, or any of the sort is where you have to take a piss. I don't mean that in the southern sense, I hope better bathrooms are available.
 
2018-02-09 05:43:59 AM  
Back in my day, customers would just shait on the floors and walls in protest.
 
2018-02-09 06:07:43 AM  

simplicimus: No Austin Powers reference yet?


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2018-02-09 06:51:16 AM  
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2018-02-09 07:17:48 AM  

ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha: Wait, Walgreens has public restrooms?


Everywhere is a public restroom, if you're brave enough.
 
2018-02-09 08:11:47 AM  
I'm less concerned about the gender of the person sharing the restroom with me as I am the stench level they're going to create. Instead of separating by gender, I'd rather have one restroom devoted to (non-asparagus-related) tinkling and light deuce-dropping (but only if you haven't recently eaten Mexican/Indian food), and one for folks planning on those force-five shiatstorm dumps where they unleash a basketball-size chocolate mud baby or spray a big old spicy fudge dragon all over the toilet that turns the air purple and blows out three fluorescent tubes.
 
2018-02-09 08:12:05 AM  
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Jessie Meehan
dont / giva / fuk
 
2018-02-09 08:12:34 AM  

Dahnkster: simplicimus: No Austin Powers reference yet?

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You sir, get a smart and funny.
 
2018-02-09 08:12:53 AM  

Log from Blammo: What a woman who might be mistaken for a man might look like:

YouTube video from ACLU SoCal for Jessie Meehan


Uh... They thought THAT person was a man? To the point where they weren't willing to accept a simple "I'm a woman" from her? Wow. Sounds like a couple of employees who were dead set on stopping an evil trans from going in the "wrong" restroom on pride day, and just went for the first woman they saw with short hair. Because women all have long hair.
 
2018-02-09 08:14:21 AM  
Not perhaps the most feminine of creatures, but if you think this is a dude, you need your eyes examined.

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2018-02-09 08:19:22 AM  

fusillade762: FormlessOne: Huh. That's actually a good story - Walgreen's did the right thing, without requiring litigation, or ridiculous posturing, or any of the other bullshiat we've seen from other stores. And, they didn't take advantage of the situation, either - they simply said, "yep, that's broken, we'll fix it, thanks" and then fixed it.

Nice. We need to see more of that.

Well, she did have to get the ACLU involved.

Two months later, when no action was taken, ACLU staff attorney Amanda Goad sent a letter to Walgreens laying out the California law,


Yeah, they did the right thing (agree to follow the law) after it became clear they were about to be sued by someone with the resources to make them pay up.
 
2018-02-09 08:19:40 AM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: Not perhaps the most feminine of creatures, but if you think this is a dude, you need your eyes examined.

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No shiat. She's pretty cute.
 
2018-02-09 08:20:41 AM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: Not perhaps the most feminine of creatures, but if you think this is a dude, you need your eyes examined.

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Do I think she's a dude? No. Would I briefly wonder if she were trans? Yes.
 
2018-02-09 08:21:47 AM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: Not perhaps the most feminine of creatures, but if you think this is a dude, you need your eyes examined.

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Not with a forklift.
 
2018-02-09 08:23:19 AM  
There's no apostrophe in Walgreens. And for you old farts, it's not pronounced "wool grins" either. It's also not Walmart.
 
2018-02-09 08:25:04 AM  
She just looks a little diesel to me, but that's only because of the Vanilla Ice haircut.
 
2018-02-09 08:25:25 AM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: Not perhaps the most feminine of creatures, but if you think this is a dude, you need your eyes examined.


I mean, maybe, I could see the employees of Walgreens in Spencer, Iowa being that clueless.  But the Walgreens at Sunset and Vine?  Seriously?

/ right up my hetero cis-male alley
// may have hit on more lesbians than not in college
 
2018-02-09 08:26:23 AM  
I mean, maybe under really bad lighting (like in your typical Walgreens), the clerk mistook her from Kevin from The Wonder Years.

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2018-02-09 08:27:38 AM  

TheSubjunctive: But the Walgreens at Sunset and Vine?


That was the part that got me. Your store is located in Hollyweird, and in the battle of "funny looking folks shouldn't be going potty" this is the hill you're going to die on?
 
2018-02-09 08:29:54 AM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: I'm less concerned about the gender of the person sharing the restroom with me as I am the stench level they're going to create. Instead of separating by gender, I'd rather have one restroom devoted to (non-asparagus-related) tinkling and light deuce-dropping (but only if you haven't recently eaten Mexican/Indian food), and one for folks planning on those force-five shiatstorm dumps where they unleash a basketball-size chocolate mud baby or spray a big old spicy fudge dragon all over the toilet that turns the air purple and blows out three fluorescent tubes.


My in-laws remodeled their bathroom a few years ago, got one of those fancy two-button "dual-flush" toilets; I'd never seen one before so I asked if you could push both buttons at once to tackle the occasional "number three", they pretended not to know what I was talking about...
 
2018-02-09 08:31:33 AM  
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2018-02-09 08:34:33 AM  

Greek: Because women all have long hair.


As a dude with long hair working retail, with a short-haired female co-worker, I can tell you this is a prevailing sentiment, and not just with bigots.

/has had to condition himself to at least turn around for "ma'am" or "miss"
//most people see the ponytail and assume
 
2018-02-09 08:39:44 AM  

grumpfuff: Greek: Because women all have long hair.

As a dude with long hair working retail, with a short-haired female co-worker, I can tell you this is a prevailing sentiment, and not just with bigots.

/has had to condition himself to at least turn around for "ma'am" or "miss"
//most people see the ponytail and assume


You got a nice tail eh?
 
2018-02-09 08:42:20 AM  

Greek: Log from Blammo: What a woman who might be mistaken for a man might look like:

YouTube video from ACLU SoCal for Jessie Meehan

Uh... They thought THAT person was a man? To the point where they weren't willing to accept a simple "I'm a woman" from her? Wow. Sounds like a couple of employees who were dead set on stopping an evil trans from going in the "wrong" restroom on pride day, and just went for the first woman they saw with short hair. Because women all have long hair.


Yea but you haven't heard her talk, she makes Dr. Girlfriend sound like a squeeze toy by comparison.
 
2018-02-09 08:45:42 AM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: Not perhaps the most feminine of creatures, but if you think this is a dude, you need your eyes examined.

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I would have thought lesbian.
 
2018-02-09 08:48:45 AM  

grumpfuff: Greek: Because women all have long hair.

As a dude with long hair working retail, with a short-haired female co-worker, I can tell you this is a prevailing sentiment, and not just with bigots.

/has had to condition himself to at least turn around for "ma'am" or "miss"
//most people see the ponytail and assume


You just need an epic enough beard for them to notice even when you're turned away from them.

/still get ma'amed
 
2018-02-09 08:52:43 AM  

grumpfuff: Greek: Because women all have long hair.

As a dude with long hair working retail, with a short-haired female co-worker, I can tell you this is a prevailing sentiment, and not just with bigots.

/has had to condition himself to at least turn around for "ma'am" or "miss"
//most people see the ponytail and assume


As another dude with long hair usually in a ponytail I'll second this. I don't even have anything close to a "feminine"  figure from behind either. I'm a average height, extremely broad shoulders dude with a fridge shaped body.
 
2018-02-09 08:55:52 AM  
I'm going to go on the record that, while in principle I don't care which bathroom anyone uses, I am opposed to a shared unisex bathroom.  There are two motivations to this:
1. I've had to clean public bathrooms in the past. The Men's room can get bad, but it is nowhere near the level of horror of the Women's room.
2. I don't want to find myself in the stall next to my date as per the risk of a circumstance that Prank Call of Cthulhu describes.  Not that I think she doesn't do it, just that I don't want to experience it first hand. It tends to kill the mood...
 
2018-02-09 08:57:51 AM  
I don't believe any of this happened. You'd have to believe Walgreen's had a bathroom attendant on duty checking to see if you were going to the "correct" bathroom. It;s ridiculous.
 
2018-02-09 09:07:35 AM  
There is so much controversy about getting the right to use the "proper" bathroom for your chosen gender..... what are people really doing in there?  So much effort for a couple minutes.  Are they doing selfies to brag to their 500 closest friends that they got to choose which bathroom to use?  Maybe they're trying to make friends in there?

Pee, handwash, then GTFO.  Otherwise you're creepy... regardless of birth or chosen gender.
 
2018-02-09 09:09:03 AM  

grumpfuff: Greek: Because women all have long hair.

As a dude with long hair working retail, with a short-haired female co-worker, I can tell you this is a prevailing sentiment, and not just with bigots.

/has had to condition himself to at least turn around for "ma'am" or "miss"
//most people see the ponytail and assume


Long, long ago I was waiting to pick my brother up from work, sitting in the car at the back of the store, with the back door to the building open so I could see through it to the front (Alphagraphix). Someone had asked my brother if his mom was waiting for him, as I apparently looked like a haggard old woman, as it was described with my long, black hair.

I also used to have a moustache (back in 1999), and wear glasses. I took my day off work, and came back to be laughingly told someone had come in and asked for the fat Weird Al guy.

I shaved my face and cut my hair the following day.
 
2018-02-09 09:10:13 AM  

oryx: I don't believe any of this happened. You'd have to believe Walgreen's had a bathroom attendant on duty checking to see if you were going to the "correct" bathroom. It;s ridiculous.


This.

Plus it being a Walgreens on Sunset Blvd in LA makes this doubly hard to believe.
 
2018-02-09 09:11:35 AM  
If some chick wants to dress up like a dude to see my wang I say go right ahead.
 
2018-02-09 09:14:18 AM  

tukatz: There is so much controversy about getting the right to use the "proper" bathroom for your chosen gender..... what are people really doing in there?


Well, look at the folks who are vitally concerned with folks using the "right" bathroom. They tend be conservatives, and conservatives aren't really known for their brilliance. "But would you want a dude in the stall next to your wife or daughter?" they ask. I think they reason as follows:

Bathrooms are places where genitals get exposed.
Sex happens when genitals are exposed.
If you're in a bathroom, therefore, sex might happen to you.

No, I don't get it either. I mean, like 99% of the problem (where by "problem" I guess we mean someone might see a genital in the bathroom) could be fixed if people in the US could adopt the same technology used in the rest of the modern world that allows other countries to build bathroom stalls that don't have like half-inch gaps all the way around the doors. At that point, there's zero chance of anyone seeing a genital.

"But, but, someone could stick a phone under the stall and take a picture!"

Yeah, let's think that one through, genius. A phone that gets put under the stall divider is a phone that's getting taken away and flushed.
 
2018-02-09 09:24:27 AM  

grumpfuff: Greek: Because women all have long hair.

As a dude with long hair working retail, with a short-haired female co-worker, I can tell you this is a prevailing sentiment, and not just with bigots.

/has had to condition himself to at least turn around for "ma'am" or "miss"
//most people see the ponytail and assume


When my son was younger he had below shoulder length hair.  He finally cut it after too many people called him a girl even after being corrected, funny thing is none of his classmates cared it was all "adults"
 
2018-02-09 09:27:02 AM  

grumpfuff: Greek: Because women all have long hair.

As a dude with long hair working retail, with a short-haired female co-worker, I can tell you this is a prevailing sentiment, and not just with bigots.

/has had to condition himself to at least turn around for "ma'am" or "miss"
//most people see the ponytail and assume


And the sign said long haired freaky people need not apply.
So I tucked my hair up under my hat and I went in to ask him why.
He said, "You look like a fine, upstanding young man, I think you'll do."
So I took off my hat and said, "Imagine that! Huh! Me, working for you!"
 
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