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2018-02-08 02:44:36 PM  
She says she offered her two-year-old daughter Payton some sips of her frappuccino

That kid is going to be fat.
 
2018-02-08 02:52:37 PM  
"Vampirino?"

Stupid Flanders...
 
2018-02-08 03:21:45 PM  
So Starbucks adds an extra flavoring to the coffee, free of charge, and they are still the bad guys.
 
2018-02-08 04:13:42 PM  
Gayer than a leather shower cap.
 
2018-02-08 04:15:38 PM  
Geez.  It's been two years.  Let it go!
 
2018-02-08 04:36:48 PM  

Rapmaster2000: She says she offered her two-year-old daughter Payton some sips of her frappuccino

That kid is going to be fat.


Coffee, it's not just for infants anymore!
 
2018-02-08 05:21:19 PM  
One thing I hate about living in San Bernadino... all the damn vampiristas.
 
2018-02-08 05:26:53 PM  
But they only tested for HIV. They *didn't* test for vamirism.... Wait til;l the kid starts growing her fangs....
 
2018-02-08 05:31:33 PM  
Rapmaster2000

She says she offered her two-year-old daughter Payton some sips of her frappuccino

That kid is going to be fat.


Take a look at the parents, not quite the role model for those with balanced diets.
 
2018-02-08 05:32:27 PM  
What a bunch of little biatches.
Back in my day, we unknowingly drank strangers blood in our coffee products and we liked it.
I mean think of all the other folks back then that never *got* to have that luxury.
We also had to walk uphill, in the snow, both ways to the local diner to get our Joe.
Don't even ask me to have to tell you about how bad it was to have to trudge to the eatery to get a cup with giant frozen belt onions swinging back and forth and smashing us in the balls.
 
2018-02-08 05:34:17 PM  
Hope the mom remembers this day when her daughter needs therapy for being a hypochondriac.

In other news 2 year olds drink Starbucks now? I need to get back into that stock.
 
2018-02-08 05:34:33 PM  
The drinks had a 'strong metallic smell' but they didn't think anything about it

Ah fark it. I'm sure it's fine.

/wtf?
//Tip: If your mayo smells like bleach, don't eat it.
 
2018-02-08 05:35:10 PM  

fly_gal: Geez.  It's been two years.  Let it go!


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2018-02-08 05:35:59 PM  
"Starbucks frappuccino tainted"

She rubbed her taint on it too? Da hell is wrong with this person?
 
2018-02-08 05:40:33 PM  
I doubt this happened and sounds like the parents just want their payoff
 
2018-02-08 05:42:40 PM  
This is why this country sucks now.. You're fine, your family is fine, just let it go.. but no, everyone has to try for the big payday.
 
2018-02-08 05:43:53 PM  

Donald Trump's Vagina: I doubt this happened and sounds like the parents just want their payoff


Well it is the Daily Fail. So put in bets of what part of the story is real.
 
2018-02-08 05:45:57 PM  

magilum: This is why this country sucks now.. You're fine, your family is fine, just let it go.. but no, everyone has to try for the big payday.


I got a paper cut from the printer. I am going to file a lawsuit against HP
 
2018-02-08 05:48:42 PM  
Hepaccino
 
2018-02-08 05:50:29 PM  

magilum: This is why this country sucks now.. You're fine, your family is fine, just let it go.. but no, everyone has to try for the big payday.


While I agree to a certain extent, serving people food or drinks with your blood in it is really, really uncool.
I can get over a hair. Bodily fluids, not so much.
 
2018-02-08 05:52:24 PM  

AlanMooresBeard: Hope the mom remembers this day when her daughter needs therapy for being a hypochondriac.

In other news 2 year olds drink Starbucks now? I need to get back into that stock.


C'mon, there are a handful of blood borne diseases and you don't want any of them. Stomach acid would kill them, but if you had a tiny cut in your mouth...
 
2018-02-08 05:53:28 PM  

Donald Trump's Vagina: I doubt this happened and sounds like the parents just want their payoff


It's a common enough situation for a food handler to cut a finger that I believe they might have gotten a cup with a smudge of some blood on it. That bit is plausible enough, and it seems Starbucks told them that they did pull someone who'd been bleeding.

That this person was bleeding badly enough to drip everywhere (enough to overwhelm the smell of coffee, which would be a lot) and 1. nobody noticed and/or 2. it wasn't concerning enough to keep him/her from continuing to prepare drinks is the part I have a tough time believing.

Either someone cut themselves and it wasn't bad enough to notice at first, or they didn't do a good enough job of cleaning up after they got blood everywhere. In either case, it's more likely they got a cup with some blood smudged on the outside and then exaggerated the rest the minute Starbucks confirmed it wasn't strawberry syrup.
 
2018-02-08 05:57:18 PM  

lindalouwho: AlanMooresBeard: Hope the mom remembers this day when her daughter needs therapy for being a hypochondriac.

In other news 2 year olds drink Starbucks now? I need to get back into that stock.

C'mon, there are a handful of blood borne diseases and you don't want any of them. Stomach acid would kill them, but if you had a tiny cut in your mouth...


HIV isn't reliably detectable until 6 months after exposure.
If they tested for multiple things I can understand. Article vs headline isn't too clear what was or was not tested for.
 
2018-02-08 05:57:36 PM  
Like TFA says, those viruses can take 6 months or more to show up, and you have to work with a lawyer for awhile, getting all the documents and putting together a case. Not sure I'd sue, but to fair she was worried about her kid.
 
2018-02-08 05:58:40 PM  
What type of jackpot are they looking for?  They were offered a grand per person which is very reasonable.  But if they're going to give their toddler sugary coffee drinks, then they don't have good judgement to begin with.
 
2018-02-08 06:01:32 PM  

AlanMooresBeard: lindalouwho: AlanMooresBeard: Hope the mom remembers this day when her daughter needs therapy for being a hypochondriac.

In other news 2 year olds drink Starbucks now? I need to get back into that stock.

C'mon, there are a handful of blood borne diseases and you don't want any of them. Stomach acid would kill them, but if you had a tiny cut in your mouth...

HIV isn't reliably detectable until 6 months after exposure.
If they tested for multiple things I can understand. Article vs headline isn't too clear what was or was not tested for.


I read TFA and already commented on the time factor. Hep C and Herpes could show up even later, those 2 lay dormant for a minute, Hep C can do that for a decade before it's detectable, though it doesn't ravage healthy folks and they have great drug options now.
 
2018-02-08 06:06:18 PM  

idrow: What type of jackpot are they looking for?  They were offered a grand per person which is very reasonable.  But if they're going to give their toddler sugary coffee drinks, then they don't have good judgement to begin with.


Don't know any hospital medical professionals or EMTs, do you? Accidentally getting stuck with a needle or an artery spraying blood all over you, it gets in your eyes. They're very subdued, everyone at work knows and feels it too.
 
2018-02-08 06:09:18 PM  

supayoda: Donald Trump's Vagina: I doubt this happened and sounds like the parents just want their payoff

It's a common enough situation for a food handler to cut a finger that I believe they might have gotten a cup with a smudge of some blood on it. That bit is plausible enough, and it seems Starbucks told them that they did pull someone who'd been bleeding.

That this person was bleeding badly enough to drip everywhere (enough to overwhelm the smell of coffee, which would be a lot) and 1. nobody noticed and/or 2. it wasn't concerning enough to keep him/her from continuing to prepare drinks is the part I have a tough time believing.

Either someone cut themselves and it wasn't bad enough to notice at first, or they didn't do a good enough job of cleaning up after they got blood everywhere. In either case, it's more likely they got a cup with some blood smudged on the outside and then exaggerated the rest the minute Starbucks confirmed it wasn't strawberry syrup.


I would agree with you except for two points that make it sound fishy to me:
1. The 'strong metallic smell' claim.  I've had nosebleeds where I didn't notice any metallic smell, I have a hard time believing that a smudge the size of the ones shown in the picture would have any odor at all.
2. There is no mention of other customers with smudges on their cups.  Again, I have a hard time believing that there were noticeable smudges on all three of this customer's cups (or were there 2 cups and multiple smudges on one of them?), but no other customers noticed anything.

It just sounds like people fishing for a handout to me.
 
2018-02-08 06:18:49 PM  

Craw Fu: supayoda: Donald Trump's Vagina: I doubt this happened and sounds like the parents just want their payoff

It's a common enough situation for a food handler to cut a finger that I believe they might have gotten a cup with a smudge of some blood on it. That bit is plausible enough, and it seems Starbucks told them that they did pull someone who'd been bleeding.

That this person was bleeding badly enough to drip everywhere (enough to overwhelm the smell of coffee, which would be a lot) and 1. nobody noticed and/or 2. it wasn't concerning enough to keep him/her from continuing to prepare drinks is the part I have a tough time believing.

Either someone cut themselves and it wasn't bad enough to notice at first, or they didn't do a good enough job of cleaning up after they got blood everywhere. In either case, it's more likely they got a cup with some blood smudged on the outside and then exaggerated the rest the minute Starbucks confirmed it wasn't strawberry syrup.

I would agree with you except for two points that make it sound fishy to me:
1. The 'strong metallic smell' claim.  I've had nosebleeds where I didn't notice any metallic smell, I have a hard time believing that a smudge the size of the ones shown in the picture would have any odor at all.
2. There is no mention of other customers with smudges on their cups.  Again, I have a hard time believing that there were noticeable smudges on all three of this customer's cups (or were there 2 cups and multiple smudges on one of them?), but no other customers noticed anything.

It just sounds like people fishing for a handout to me.


This. Smells like bullshiat.

Not to mention that HIV being transmitted through such a small amount of blood is not going to happen. Especially if it was just dried blood on the outside of the container
 
2018-02-08 06:22:32 PM  
Maybe it was hidden by a sleeve, which they took off later...
 
2018-02-08 06:31:04 PM  

Craw Fu: 1. The 'strong metallic smell' claim.  I've had nosebleeds where I didn't notice any metallic smell, I have a hard time believing that a smudge the size of the ones shown in the picture would have any odor at all.


That's pretty much what I was saying-- that it's not likely there was enough blood in the drink for her to smell it and, if someone was bleeding to the point where they'd have that much blood in a drink, someone would have noticed them gushing blood and would have required them to stop preparing drinks.
 
2018-02-08 07:01:23 PM  

Craw Fu: supayoda: Donald Trump's Vagina: I doubt this happened and sounds like the parents just want their payoff

It's a common enough situation for a food handler to cut a finger that I believe they might have gotten a cup with a smudge of some blood on it. That bit is plausible enough, and it seems Starbucks told them that they did pull someone who'd been bleeding.

That this person was bleeding badly enough to drip everywhere (enough to overwhelm the smell of coffee, which would be a lot) and 1. nobody noticed and/or 2. it wasn't concerning enough to keep him/her from continuing to prepare drinks is the part I have a tough time believing.

Either someone cut themselves and it wasn't bad enough to notice at first, or they didn't do a good enough job of cleaning up after they got blood everywhere. In either case, it's more likely they got a cup with some blood smudged on the outside and then exaggerated the rest the minute Starbucks confirmed it wasn't strawberry syrup.

I would agree with you except for two points that make it sound fishy to me:
1. The 'strong metallic smell' claim.  I've had nosebleeds where I didn't notice any metallic smell, I have a hard time believing that a smudge the size of the ones shown in the picture would have any odor at all.
2. There is no mention of other customers with smudges on their cups.  Again, I have a hard time believing that there were noticeable smudges on all three of this customer's cups (or were there 2 cups and multiple smudges on one of them?), but no other customers noticed anything.

It just sounds like people fishing for a handout to me.


Hey, you don't know.  Maybe the Barista was making their daily blood sacrifice to Satan. Alius in Sanguine Foedus
 
2018-02-08 07:02:01 PM  

supayoda: Craw Fu: 1. The 'strong metallic smell' claim.  I've had nosebleeds where I didn't notice any metallic smell, I have a hard time believing that a smudge the size of the ones shown in the picture would have any odor at all.

That's pretty much what I was saying-- that it's not likely there was enough blood in the drink for her to smell it and, if someone was bleeding to the point where they'd have that much blood in a drink, someone would have noticed them gushing blood and would have required them to stop preparing drinks.


Meh I cooked for a living, you gotta stop right away and bandage that little cut. I'd guess it happened while putting on the lids.
Yes it only takes a drop, it was smell and taste buds, I've smelled copper when putting a bleeding finger in my mouth before getting to a paper towel.
To me this isn't like the coffe is too hot, but I see I'm badly outnumbered.

Those health care workers I mentioned, the ones who get stuck with the needle they just used, there's microscopic blood on that.
 
2018-02-08 07:04:13 PM  

AlanMooresBeard: lindalouwho: AlanMooresBeard: Hope the mom remembers this day when her daughter needs therapy for being a hypochondriac.

In other news 2 year olds drink Starbucks now? I need to get back into that stock.

C'mon, there are a handful of blood borne diseases and you don't want any of them. Stomach acid would kill them, but if you had a tiny cut in your mouth...

HIV isn't reliably detectable until 6 months after exposure.
If they tested for multiple things I can understand. Article vs headline isn't too clear what was or was not tested for.


About 4 weeks to seroconvert. Still, there's no way you're getting HIV that way. Maybe Hep B/C (easier to transmit) if you're licking the bloody finger print before it dries and just got your tongue pierced. Maybe.
 
2018-02-08 07:17:31 PM  

drwiki: AlanMooresBeard: lindalouwho: AlanMooresBeard: Hope the mom remembers this day when her daughter needs therapy for being a hypochondriac.

In other news 2 year olds drink Starbucks now? I need to get back into that stock.

C'mon, there are a handful of blood borne diseases and you don't want any of them. Stomach acid would kill them, but if you had a tiny cut in your mouth...

HIV isn't reliably detectable until 6 months after exposure.
If they tested for multiple things I can understand. Article vs headline isn't too clear what was or was not tested for.

About 4 weeks to seroconvert. Still, there's no way you're getting HIV that way. Maybe Hep B/C (easier to transmit) if you're licking the bloody finger print before it dries and just got your tongue pierced. Maybe.


Or if your gums bled a little brushing your teeth that morning, more open then the needle stick. Herpes doesn't even need a break in your skin, mucus membrane.

I just know when I spent 3 months in the hospital some years back I stayed arms length from everyone, but also wasn't trying to get a nasty  antibiotic-resistant hospital infection.
 
2018-02-08 09:40:40 PM  

idrow: What type of jackpot are they looking for?


Type O negative.
 
2018-02-08 09:50:37 PM  
If they genuinely may have been exposed, why aren't they starting the prophylaxis treatment?

Why was their frappacino in a hot coffee cup?

Why did it say white mocha?
 
2018-02-08 09:54:14 PM  
If they genuinely may have been exposed, why aren't they starting the prophylaxis treatment?

Why was their frappacino in a hot coffee cup?

Why did it say white mocha?

And even if the barista is positive, you can't get hiv that way.  Not sure about hepatitis  though. ..

http://i-base.info/qa/2221
 
2018-02-08 10:26:47 PM  

lindalouwho: supayoda: Craw Fu: 1. The 'strong metallic smell' claim.  I've had nosebleeds where I didn't notice any metallic smell, I have a hard time believing that a smudge the size of the ones shown in the picture would have any odor at all.

That's pretty much what I was saying-- that it's not likely there was enough blood in the drink for her to smell it and, if someone was bleeding to the point where they'd have that much blood in a drink, someone would have noticed them gushing blood and would have required them to stop preparing drinks.

Meh I cooked for a living, you gotta stop right away and bandage that little cut. I'd guess it happened while putting on the lids.
Yes it only takes a drop, it was smell and taste buds, I've smelled copper when putting a bleeding finger in my mouth before getting to a paper towel.
To me this isn't like the coffe is too hot, but I see I'm badly outnumbered.


Yes, it's absolutely a health violation. I myself still work in the food industry, though I'm mostly in the paper pushing part of that now. I'm still required to have my food handling certification, but it doesn't take that to know that bodily fluids of any kind are considered a contamination issue. Yes, you do have to bandage every cut and put on gloves over the bandage to make sure nothing seeps out of that bandage and gets into the food. You should also be washing and sanitizing whatever you cut yourself with-- assuming it's not something you can toss in the trash. I'm thinking you're probably right in that they might have cut it on the plastic lid and didn't notice until after they'd handed it out.

But sometimes you can get cut and not notice, in or out of the kitchen. It happens. It might be that whoever this was noticed it right after. If that's the case, then it'd only be a little bit of blood, and while that might have a noticeable taste and smell, but when mixed with something that has a much more prominent taste and smell, like coffee... It's a much different situation than putting a bleeding finger up to one's nose in an otherwise normal setting free of strong aromas, and it's probably going to take more than a drop or two for the average person to notice in that particular situation. That's what I was trying to say there, that while I have no doubt that someone might have gotten blood on her cup (again, it happens), I do doubt that it was the gusher she's making it sound like it was. Otherwise, it'd be the kind of cut where I'd be having the employee have a medical professional look at it rather than just having it bandaged.

And while I do think that, it being a health violation, it's something that should be taken care of and taken seriously, I also don't think there's any reason to believe that this was the result of any particular neglect or malicious intent. I'm not sure what Starbucks could potentially do to 100% guarantee that their employees never get cut or always are aware of every single small cut. I do think that there's obviously some liability on the part of Starbucks when it comes to compensating them for any medical expenses plus maybe a little extra, and the health department is probably going to go to town on them, but that's apparently not what the family is asking for.
 
2018-02-08 11:22:21 PM  

supayoda: lindalouwho: supayoda: Craw Fu: 1. The 'strong metallic smell' claim.  I've had nosebleeds where I didn't notice any metallic smell, I have a hard time believing that a smudge the size of the ones shown in the picture would have any odor at all.

That's pretty much what I was saying-- that it's not likely there was enough blood in the drink for her to smell it and, if someone was bleeding to the point where they'd have that much blood in a drink, someone would have noticed them gushing blood and would have required them to stop preparing drinks.

Meh I cooked for a living, you gotta stop right away and bandage that little cut. I'd guess it happened while putting on the lids.
Yes it only takes a drop, it was smell and taste buds, I've smelled copper when putting a bleeding finger in my mouth before getting to a paper towel.
To me this isn't like the coffe is too hot, but I see I'm badly outnumbered.

Yes, it's absolutely a health violation. I myself still work in the food industry, though I'm mostly in the paper pushing part of that now. I'm still required to have my food handling certification, but it doesn't take that to know that bodily fluids of any kind are considered a contamination issue. Yes, you do have to bandage every cut and put on gloves over the bandage to make sure nothing seeps out of that bandage and gets into the food. You should also be washing and sanitizing whatever you cut yourself with-- assuming it's not something you can toss in the trash. I'm thinking you're probably right in that they might have cut it on the plastic lid and didn't notice until after they'd handed it out.

But sometimes you can get cut and not notice, in or out of the kitchen. It happens. It might be that whoever this was noticed it right after. If that's the case, then it'd only be a little bit of blood, and while that might have a noticeable taste and smell, but when mixed with something that has a much more prominent taste and smell, like coffee... It's a much different situation than putting a bleeding finger up to one's nose in an otherwise normal setting free of strong aromas, and it's probably going to take more than a drop or two for the average person to notice in that particular situation. That's what I was trying to say there, that while I have no doubt that someone might have gotten blood on her cup (again, it happens), I do doubt that it was the gusher she's making it sound like it was. Otherwise, it'd be the kind of cut where I'd be having the employee have a medical professional look at it rather than just having it bandaged.

And while I do think that, it being a health violation, it's something that should be taken care of and taken seriously, I also don't think there's any reason to believe that this was the result of any particular neglect or malicious intent. I'm not sure what Starbucks could potentially do to 100% guarantee that their employees never get cut or always are aware of every single small cut. I do think that there's obviously some liability on the part of Starbucks when it comes to compensating them for any medical expenses plus maybe a little extra, and the health department is probably going to go to town on them, but that's apparently not what the family is asking for.


They'll probably get paid to go away with a lesser amount, and the lawyer knows to take the money and run.
Fresh blood on the lip of the cup hits your senses before the coffee.
I dunno, I've always been aware of the smell, maybe some folks have a more pronounced copper smell, or have never tasted or been near a pint or so of blood.
*sharpens fangs*
 
2018-02-08 11:31:44 PM  
Health department won't get involved, it's an occupational hazard, it happens, though it's much more frightening these days. Wonder if the kid got fired. She's wrong to be pissed no one can make a person get tested, cripes, can you say HIPAA boys and girls? Besides, unlikely as is, he could have only recently been infected and test negative. I get the anxiety though.
It's in the category "shiat happens" like you can't sue over naturally occurring things like a bone in fish, a piece of shell in clam clam chowder.
 
2018-02-09 12:29:58 AM  

ChipNASA: What a bunch of little biatches.
Back in my day, we unknowingly drank strangers blood in our coffee products and we liked it.


Blood sausage, blood pudding...

But it's not kosher, you know.
 
2018-02-09 02:55:10 PM  
The URL is why I always drink straight from the artery.

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/I hope a man eating tuna was there to help the kid
//dnrtfa
 
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