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(Truro Daily)   Manhunt underway for murderer who escaped from prison. And by "escaped" we mean "strolled out" and by "from prison" we mean "of his un-fenced, unlocked, minimum-security condo"   ( trurodaily.com) divider line
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2018-02-08 01:00:41 PM  
That's some fine Corrections work, there, Louis.
 
2018-02-08 01:01:24 PM  
What is this,  Canadian Alcatraz?
 
2018-02-08 01:06:29 PM  
FTFA: Budgen, who was housed in the minimum-security unit, pleaded guilty to second-degree murder in the 1997 death of Angela Tong, a Carleton University student who was stabled 19 times.

Did he kill her with a horse?
 
2018-02-08 01:13:04 PM  
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2018-02-08 01:33:52 PM  
The White House is hardly a minimum security condo, smitty.
 
2018-02-08 01:36:53 PM  

Petit_Merdeux: The White House is hardly a minimum security condo, smitty.


He's a murderer, not a Sex Offender.
 
2018-02-08 02:03:18 PM  
Budgen, who was housed in the minimum-security unit, pleaded guilty to second-degree murder in the 1997 death of Angela Tong, a Carleton University student who was stabled 19 times.

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/stabled?
 
2018-02-08 02:09:36 PM  

blatz514: Budgen, who was housed in the minimum-security unit, pleaded guilty to second-degree murder in the 1997 death of Angela Tong, a Carleton University student who was stabled 19 times.

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/stabled?


Even if the article said "stabbed", that (prison) sentence doesn't make a whole lot of sense.  I guess it was result of a plea deal, because plunging a knife into someone 19 times does not say "minimum security" to me.
 
2018-02-08 02:09:39 PM  
He's white so I'm sure he's not guilty of something.
 
2018-02-08 02:12:35 PM  
Sackville?

Better call the Bagginses, Chubbs, Grubbs, Tooks, Brandybucks, and Proudfoots.
 
2018-02-08 02:13:45 PM  
See, with confidence, anything is possible!
 
2018-02-08 02:19:20 PM  
Sackville is POP 5000. If he escapes Sackville on foot, he will probably be eaten by bears.
 
2018-02-08 02:20:07 PM  

SansNeural: blatz514: Budgen, who was housed in the minimum-security unit, pleaded guilty to second-degree murder in the 1997 death of Angela Tong, a Carleton University student who was stabled 19 times.

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/stabled?

Even if the article said "stabbed", that (prison) sentence doesn't make a whole lot of sense.  I guess it was result of a plea deal, because plunging a knife into someone 19 times does not say "minimum security" to me.


Usually for serious offenders, minimum security is where you spend the last few years of a long sentence as part of getting you ready for re-integration. (There's no Life Without Parole in Canada).  He was serving an "indeterminate" sentence meaning he had probably finished his minimum and was now parole-eligible, so from that perspective I can see it makes sense on paper...but they sure seem to have jumped the gun on this one a tad.
 
2018-02-08 02:20:14 PM  
Has his HOA hired a bounty hunter yet?
 
2018-02-08 02:21:12 PM  
Escaped from the Group W bench...
 
2018-02-08 02:21:40 PM  
SACKVILLE, NB

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2018-02-08 02:21:42 PM  

FrancoFile: Sackville?

Better call the Bagginses, Chubbs, Grubbs, Tooks, Brandybucks, and Proudfoots.


Proudfeet!
 
2018-02-08 02:21:51 PM  
Maybe she was stapled 19 times?
 
2018-02-08 02:22:01 PM  
See, the Canadians are just too nice.
 
2018-02-08 02:22:37 PM  

FrancoFile: Sackville?

Better call the Bagginses, Chubbs, Grubbs, Tooks, Brandybucks, and Proudfoots.


And protect the silverware!
 
2018-02-08 02:22:40 PM  

blondambition: FrancoFile: Sackville?

Better call the Bagginses, Chubbs, Grubbs, Tooks, Brandybucks, and Proudfoots.

Proudfeet!


Proudfoots.
 
2018-02-08 02:24:12 PM  
I assume he's hammered on Labatt's.
 
2018-02-08 02:24:46 PM  
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2018-02-08 02:24:53 PM  
On one hand WARGLE BARGLE, damn the prison industrial complex!

On the other, WARGLE BARGLE every facility should have a moat of alligators with 10 ft high fences with prisoners in lock down 23 hours a day.

What probably happened was he eventually was moved down from a maximum security prison as he earned more privileges for "good behavior".  By the time he reached the medium security level, they used and assessment tool like the LSI-R to determine his level of supervision.

If this is his only conviction, has no history of substance abuse, no history of mental health issues, has no history of institutional misconduct, and his last conviction was 21 years ago.  Guess what, the assessment is considered "impartial" and that's where they put him unless they have a policy that lets a supervisor or a warden override it.  Many places don't

Murder bides his time, sees how the Canadian system (and the system in many places here in the US) functions, and took his shot.

I'm guessing he was in maximum at the start of his sentence, and worked his way down.....
 
2018-02-08 02:25:00 PM  
If i got sentenced to minimum security for murder I'd sit back and count my blessings.  Now you get to do that time and all the added time in max you idiot.
 
2018-02-08 02:26:12 PM  
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Seems like a fun place...
 
2018-02-08 02:28:24 PM  

anustart: That's some fine Corrections work, there, Louis.


Gee, those Canadians really need advice from Americans on how to run prisons.
 
2018-02-08 02:41:42 PM  

jaytkay: anustart: That's some fine Corrections work, there, Louis.

Gee, those Canadians really need advice from Americans on how to run prisons.


No, WE don't.
 
2018-02-08 02:42:41 PM  
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2018-02-08 02:45:44 PM  

anustart: jaytkay: anustart: That's some fine Corrections work, there, Louis.

Gee, those Canadians really need advice from Americans on how to run prisons.

No, WE don't.


Gee, those Canadians really need advice from Americans on how to operate their sarcasm detectors.
 
2018-02-08 02:46:09 PM  

anustart: jaytkay: anustart: That's some fine Corrections work, there, Louis.

Gee, those Canadians really need advice from Americans on how to run prisons.

No, WE don't.


OK, you take your damned geese back and we'll leave you the hell alone!
 
2018-02-08 02:55:31 PM  

SansNeural: anustart: jaytkay: anustart: That's some fine Corrections work, there, Louis.

Gee, those Canadians really need advice from Americans on how to run prisons.

No, WE don't.

OK, you take your damned geese back and we'll leave you the hell alone!


No. Winter is the only time we are free of our oppressors.
 
2018-02-08 02:58:30 PM  
Oh, Andy...
 
2018-02-08 02:59:13 PM  

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Seems like a fun place...


A fella could have a pretty good weekend in Vegas with all that stuff
 
2018-02-08 02:59:39 PM  

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Seems like a fun place...


Man love.  Sausage party's.
 
2018-02-08 03:02:38 PM  

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Seems like a fun place...


I see a Gamecube, but what's that under the TV? A Xbox1?
 
2018-02-08 03:11:54 PM  

LowbrowDeluxe: anustart: jaytkay: anustart: That's some fine Corrections work, there, Louis.

Gee, those Canadians really need advice from Americans on how to run prisons.

No, WE don't.

Gee, those Canadians really need advice from Americans on how to operate their sarcasm detectors.


Yes, I do!
 
2018-02-08 03:29:33 PM  
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2018-02-08 03:54:28 PM  
Budgen, who was housed in the minimum-security unit, pleaded guilty to second-degree murder in the 1997 death of Angela Tong, a Carleton University student who was stabled 19 times.

The ghost of Mr. Hands finally got his revenge.
 
2018-02-08 04:08:23 PM  

anustart: He was serving an "indeterminate" sentence


I honestly can't think of anything more cruel and inhumane than an "indeterminate" prison sentence.

The very concept of it is antithetical to human rights, no matter how nice the prison is.  If you're convicted of a crime, you should be given a specific sentence.  If it's life in prison, or even the death penalty, so be it.  But to put a person in prison without telling them specifically what the punishment is, except "We're throwing you in prison until we decide to release you" seems cruel beyond measure.
 
2018-02-08 04:12:06 PM  

dittybopper: anustart: He was serving an "indeterminate" sentence

I honestly can't think of anything more cruel and inhumane than an "indeterminate" prison sentence.

The very concept of it is antithetical to human rights, no matter how nice the prison is.  If you're convicted of a crime, you should be given a specific sentence.  If it's life in prison, or even the death penalty, so be it.  But to put a person in prison without telling them specifically what the punishment is, except "We're throwing you in prison until we decide to release you" seems cruel beyond measure.


That's not what "indeterminate" means in Canada.

If you are sentenced to "25 years to life", then after 25 years your remaining sentence is then referred to as "indeterminate".  All it means is that he had achieved parole eligibility.
 
2018-02-08 04:22:19 PM  

Anastacya: FTFA: Budgen, who was housed in the minimum-security unit, pleaded guilty to second-degree murder in the 1997 death of Angela Tong, a Carleton University student who was stabled 19 times.

Did he kill her with a horse?


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2018-02-08 04:31:56 PM  

Tr0mBoNe: SansNeural: anustart: jaytkay: anustart: That's some fine Corrections work, there, Louis.

Gee, those Canadians really need advice from Americans on how to run prisons.

No, WE don't.

OK, you take your damned geese back and we'll leave you the hell alone!

No. Winter is the only time we are free of our oppressors.


Fine. Take Justin Bieber, Nickelback and Mike Myers and we'll call it even.
 
2018-02-08 04:40:25 PM  

Slypork: Tr0mBoNe: SansNeural: anustart: jaytkay: anustart: That's some fine Corrections work, there, Louis.

Gee, those Canadians really need advice from Americans on how to run prisons.

No, WE don't.

OK, you take your damned geese back and we'll leave you the hell alone!

No. Winter is the only time we are free of our oppressors.

Fine. Take Justin Bieber, Nickelback and Mike Myers and we'll call it even.


Sorry, no. Making them stay in America is our revenge for:
- The Voice
- Real Housewives Of [everywhere]
- SNL from 1999-2011
- anything starring Kevin James
 
2018-02-08 06:39:10 PM  

dittybopper: anustart: He was serving an "indeterminate" sentence

I honestly can't think of anything more cruel and inhumane than an "indeterminate" prison sentence.

The very concept of it is antithetical to human rights, no matter how nice the prison is.  If you're convicted of a crime, you should be given a specific sentence.  If it's life in prison, or even the death penalty, so be it.  But to put a person in prison without telling them specifically what the punishment is, except "We're throwing you in prison until we decide to release you" seems cruel beyond measure.


Murder by the state is cruel and inhumane, it's a crime against humanity.  Life without parole is cruel and inhumane.

Giving every prisoner the hope of getting out is far better than either of those.
 
2018-02-08 07:01:50 PM  

anustart: SansNeural: blatz514: Budgen, who was housed in the minimum-security unit, pleaded guilty to second-degree murder in the 1997 death of Angela Tong, a Carleton University student who was stabled 19 times.

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/stabled?

Even if the article said "stabbed", that (prison) sentence doesn't make a whole lot of sense.  I guess it was result of a plea deal, because plunging a knife into someone 19 times does not say "minimum security" to me.

Usually for serious offenders, minimum security is where you spend the last few years of a long sentence as part of getting you ready for re-integration. (There's no Life Without Parole in Canada).  He was serving an "indeterminate" sentence meaning he had probably finished his minimum and was now parole-eligible, so from that perspective I can see it makes sense on paper...but they sure seem to have jumped the gun on this one a tad.


It's not even that unusual, I've seen a prison like that in SC.  It would be a real problem if the guy was sentenced 2 years ago, not 20.  He likely was close to being released, which is why just taking roll call is enough, because it takes an idiot to bring a long sentence onto themselves when they have 2 months to go.  It is real possible this guy didn't really want out.  Sounds like he was a real mess of a guy over 20 years ago, and maybe prison is the only structure he has found comforting.  It happens, go in young and still a bit impressionable, don't know what to do on the back side of life.
 
2018-02-09 01:03:28 AM  

lack of warmth: anustart: SansNeural: blatz514: Budgen, who was housed in the minimum-security unit, pleaded guilty to second-degree murder in the 1997 death of Angela Tong, a Carleton University student who was stabled 19 times.

[img.fark.net image 500x213]

/stabled?

Even if the article said "stabbed", that (prison) sentence doesn't make a whole lot of sense.  I guess it was result of a plea deal, because plunging a knife into someone 19 times does not say "minimum security" to me.

Usually for serious offenders, minimum security is where you spend the last few years of a long sentence as part of getting you ready for re-integration. (There's no Life Without Parole in Canada).  He was serving an "indeterminate" sentence meaning he had probably finished his minimum and was now parole-eligible, so from that perspective I can see it makes sense on paper...but they sure seem to have jumped the gun on this one a tad.

It's not even that unusual, I've seen a prison like that in SC.  It would be a real problem if the guy was sentenced 2 years ago, not 20.  He likely was close to being released, which is why just taking roll call is enough, because it takes an idiot to bring a long sentence onto themselves when they have 2 months to go.  It is real possible this guy didn't really want out.  Sounds like he was a real mess of a guy over 20 years ago, and maybe prison is the only structure he has found comforting.  It happens, go in young and still a bit impressionable, don't know what to do on the back side of life.


Good thinking.  That's maybe even a better thing for him than what I was starting to think... what if he didn't "escape" but something bad happened to him?
 
2018-02-09 08:19:41 AM  

DarkVader: dittybopper: anustart: He was serving an "indeterminate" sentence

I honestly can't think of anything more cruel and inhumane than an "indeterminate" prison sentence.

The very concept of it is antithetical to human rights, no matter how nice the prison is.  If you're convicted of a crime, you should be given a specific sentence.  If it's life in prison, or even the death penalty, so be it.  But to put a person in prison without telling them specifically what the punishment is, except "We're throwing you in prison until we decide to release you" seems cruel beyond measure.

Murder by the state is cruel and inhumane, it's a crime against humanity.  Life without parole is cruel and inhumane.

Giving every prisoner the hope of getting out is far better than either of those.


Except it's almost certainly a false hope, which is even more cruel than a life sentence.

My "favorite" example of this is Anders Breivik in Norway.  To refresh your memory, he killed 77 people and wounded 319 of them in a combined bombing/mass shooting attack that was racially motivated.

Norway has abolished both the death penalty, and life imprisonment.  Breivik was sentenced to the maximum sentence possible of 21 years in prison.  But he's never going to be released.  Personally, I think he should have been executed for his crimes.  And not by lethal injection, but by something like hanging or a firing squad, where it is pretty much required that you be awake and aware through the entire thing.

But I think it's cruel and a violation of human rights (which even the most heinous of convicted criminals have, at least until they are executed or die of natural causes) to sentence someone to a limited term that is a de-facto life sentence, or to sentence someone to what is in essence an indeterminate sentence (though 25 years to life isn't what I would call "indeterminate").
 
2018-02-09 09:45:08 AM  
Shifting gears here, having read TFA, I noticed this:

Budgen, who was housed in the minimum-security unit, pleaded guilty to second-degree murder in the 1997 death of Angela Tong, a Carleton University student who was stabled 19 times.

That would explain the long face.
 
2018-02-09 09:56:06 AM  
I wonder what his woods skills are like.  Generally, it's better when you are trying to avoid the police to head out into the woods, and to keep going until you're out of the immediate search area.  Harder to do when there is snow on the ground, of course, but during the late spring, summer, and early fall it's actually a very good method of avoiding capture if you don't have access to a motor vehicle.

If you try to hide in an urban area, you can't avoid being seen, and that means you'll probably be recognized, and probably captured.  In the woods, there generally aren't people around to see you.  You're largely protected from aerial observation, even from thermal imaging to a large degree.

It's hard to do that sort of thing if you don't have the skills, though, and even more hard if you haven't prepared for it by having a pre-positioned cache of supplies and tools.  Of all the very successful evasions I'm aware of, the escapee/fugitive had either a bunch of equipment and supplies on them, or a cache of them hidden somewhere that wasn't known to anyone else.
 
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