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(NBC News)   Uncle Joe: "I'm having enormous difficulty understanding how this White House functions." Says it needs to function as smooth as a '76 Trans Am with the optional 455 HO engine with Rochester 4-barrel carb producing 200hp and 330 lb-ft of torque   ( nbcnews.com) divider line
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2018-02-08 01:07:05 PM  
Given the state of US car manufacturing in the 1970's, that's probably not what you actually want.
 
2018-02-08 01:10:33 PM  
We all are, Uncle Joe.
 
2018-02-08 01:31:31 PM  
200hp out of a 455 with a 4bbl? Is it only using two cylinders?

My little BMW straight-six turbo can do 320hp.
 
2018-02-08 01:44:58 PM  
psssst.  Joe.  It's not functioning.
 
2018-02-08 02:02:42 PM  

Uncle Eazy: 200hp out of a 455 with a 4bbl? Is it only using two cylinders?

My little BMW straight-six turbo can do 320hp.


Emission controlled to death.
 
2018-02-08 02:04:39 PM  
God damn it if thread this turns into a "HEY UNCLE JOE SHOULD RUN FOR PRESIDENT" bullshiat....
 
2018-02-08 02:50:49 PM  
WH designed

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2018-02-08 03:03:02 PM  

wooden_badger: Uncle Eazy: 200hp out of a 455 with a 4bbl? Is it only using two cylinders?

My little BMW straight-six turbo can do 320hp.

Emission controlled to death.


For the most part that's true when compared to their pre-1972 equivalents.  The 70s and 80s were the malaise days of HP, but there have been some incredible efficiency gains in the past 10 years.  A 2018 Camry V6 can do 0-60 in 5.7 and a 1/4 mile in 14.3.  That's going to run with any top-of-the-line late 60s muscle car.

Transmissions are major factor as well.  Even the Chevy Malibu comes with a 9-speed that shifts ridiculously faster than anything the the 70s.

And then there's the matter of turning.  Ye olden muscle cars are great to look at, but a Ford Fusion would make a 1970 Challenger R/T look silly.

One more thing to consider is that HP numbers from manufacturers in those days were a fantasy.  They'd report things like 500hp, and that was true with an optimally tuned carb and no exhaust.  They were as bad as pre-90s MPG numbers which were also mostly a farce.
 
2018-02-08 03:03:48 PM  

Rapmaster2000: wooden_badger: Uncle Eazy: 200hp out of a 455 with a 4bbl? Is it only using two cylinders?

My little BMW straight-six turbo can do 320hp.

Emission controlled to death.

For the most part that's true when compared to their pre-1972 equivalents.  The 70s and 80s were the malaise days of HP, but there have been some incredible efficiency gains in the past 10 years.  A 2018 Camry V6 can do 0-60 in 5.7 and a 1/4 mile in 14.3.  That's going to run with any top-of-the-line late 60s muscle car.

Transmissions are major factor as well.  Even the Chevy Malibu comes with a 9-speed that shifts ridiculously faster than anything the the 70s.

And then there's the matter of turning.  Ye olden muscle cars are great to look at, but a Ford Fusion would make a 1970 Challenger R/T look silly on a race track.

One more thing to consider is that HP numbers from manufacturers in those days were a fantasy.  They'd report things like 500hp, and that was true with an optimally tuned carb and no exhaust.  They were as bad as pre-90s MPG numbers which were also mostly a farce.


FTFM
 
2018-02-08 04:02:41 PM  
Something something positrack, mmmmmm Marisa Tomei.
 
2018-02-08 04:52:08 PM  
I have a car. I drive it to work and the grocery store
 
2018-02-08 04:52:24 PM  

Rapmaster2000: wooden_badger: Uncle Eazy: 200hp out of a 455 with a 4bbl? Is it only using two cylinders?

My little BMW straight-six turbo can do 320hp.

Emission controlled to death.

For the most part that's true when compared to their pre-1972 equivalents.  The 70s and 80s were the malaise days of HP, but there have been some incredible efficiency gains in the past 10 years.  A 2018 Camry V6 can do 0-60 in 5.7 and a 1/4 mile in 14.3.  That's going to run with any top-of-the-line late 60s muscle car.

Transmissions are major factor as well.  Even the Chevy Malibu comes with a 9-speed that shifts ridiculously faster than anything the the 70s.

And then there's the matter of turning.  Ye olden muscle cars are great to look at, but a Ford Fusion would make a 1970 Challenger R/T look silly.

One more thing to consider is that HP numbers from manufacturers in those days were a fantasy.  They'd report things like 500hp, and that was true with an optimally tuned carb and no exhaust.  They were as bad as pre-90s MPG numbers which were also mostly a farce.


Yeah, most people have no idea how high-performance even "average" modern cars are by even relatively recent historical standards.
 
2018-02-08 04:53:07 PM  
I understand exactly how this White House runs, Mr. Biden. It runs like a diesel truck whose gas tank is filled with unleaded gas and whose engine is missing the spark plugs.
 
2018-02-08 04:54:08 PM  
MelbaToast - Dazed and Confused - Wooderson...we are talkin some f****** muscle
Youtube bUZi-Ftcs9Y
 
2018-02-08 04:54:53 PM  

Serious Black: I understand exactly how this White House runs, Mr. Biden. It runs like a diesel truck whose gas tank is filled with unleaded gas and whose engine is missing the spark plugs.


Diesel engines don't have spark plugs.
 
2018-02-08 04:55:00 PM  

Rapmaster2000: Rapmaster2000: wooden_badger: Uncle Eazy: 200hp out of a 455 with a 4bbl? Is it only using two cylinders?

My little BMW straight-six turbo can do 320hp.

Emission controlled to death.

For the most part that's true when compared to their pre-1972 equivalents.  The 70s and 80s were the malaise days of HP, but there have been some incredible efficiency gains in the past 10 years.  A 2018 Camry V6 can do 0-60 in 5.7 and a 1/4 mile in 14.3.  That's going to run with any top-of-the-line late 60s muscle car.

Transmissions are major factor as well.  Even the Chevy Malibu comes with a 9-speed that shifts ridiculously faster than anything the the 70s.

And then there's the matter of turning.  Ye olden muscle cars are great to look at, but a Ford Fusion would make a 1970 Challenger R/T look silly on a race track.

One more thing to consider is that HP numbers from manufacturers in those days were a fantasy.  They'd report things like 500hp, and that was true with an optimally tuned carb and no exhaust.  They were as bad as pre-90s MPG numbers which were also mostly a farce.

FTFM


Ford Fusion Sport would probably take it in a drag race.
 
2018-02-08 04:55:43 PM  
How it functions?

Well, the chef staff gives Donnie two scoops of ice cream for dinner, and everyone else only one scoop.  And that pacified the big toddler until Air Force One can fly him away for his weekly 3 day golfing weekends.

Anything of benefit to the nation?  Nope.
 
2018-02-08 04:56:29 PM  

grokca: Something something positrack, mmmmmm Marisa Tomei.


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2018-02-08 04:56:43 PM  
Short answer: It isn't functioning.

Long answer: It isn't functioning.

Wild guess answer: It isn't functioning.

Fark answer: It's a clown car that crashed into a burning dumpster.

Take your pick, Joe.
 
2018-02-08 04:56:59 PM  

wooden_badger: Uncle Eazy: 200hp out of a 455 with a 4bbl? Is it only using two cylinders?

My little BMW straight-six turbo can do 320hp.

Emission controlled to death.


Yeah, I'd rather have something 1973 or earlier.
 
2018-02-08 04:58:27 PM  
Memory lane:

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Those were the days...
 
2018-02-08 04:59:49 PM  
Oh good. Another Uncle Joe / muscle car headline. So funny and original.
 
2018-02-08 05:00:01 PM  
200 HP from 455 cubic inches is sad, low energy.
 
2018-02-08 05:00:53 PM  

NateAsbestos: I have a car. I drive it to work and the grocery store


Look at this guy, with his monocle and top hat.
 
2018-02-08 05:00:53 PM  

Rapmaster2000: wooden_badger: Uncle Eazy: 200hp out of a 455 with a 4bbl? Is it only using two cylinders?

My little BMW straight-six turbo can do 320hp.

Emission controlled to death.

For the most part that's true when compared to their pre-1972 equivalents.  The 70s and 80s were the malaise days of HP, but there have been some incredible efficiency gains in the past 10 years.  A 2018 Camry V6 can do 0-60 in 5.7 and a 1/4 mile in 14.3.  That's going to run with any top-of-the-line late 60s muscle car.

Transmissions are major factor as well.  Even the Chevy Malibu comes with a 9-speed that shifts ridiculously faster than anything the the 70s.

And then there's the matter of turning.  Ye olden muscle cars are great to look at, but a Ford Fusion would make a 1970 Challenger R/T look silly.

One more thing to consider is that HP numbers from manufacturers in those days were a fantasy.  They'd report things like 500hp, and that was true with an optimally tuned carb and no exhaust.  They were as bad as pre-90s MPG numbers which were also mostly a farce.


You were pretty much right on until the reported HP numbers.  While it may not be the same for the aforementioned 72 Trans Am, the 60s saw the complete opposite.  The big three routinely under advertised HP numbers by significant amounts.  The 69 GTO RAM AIR was advertised at 366, while real world tests put it closer to 410.  The buying public knew when they test drove, but their insurance was based on the factory stated numbers.

Funniest one is Ford rated both the 428 Cobra Jet and 390CID at 335hp.  In stock form, the CJ put out closer to 410hp
 
2018-02-08 05:01:47 PM  

UsikFark: Memory lane:

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Those were the days...


Say what you will about Bannon but at least he knew that you need paperwork on the desk for the photo op where the president pretends to work.
 
2018-02-08 05:02:14 PM  
How do how does it function? Well, an ill-tempered and uncultured elderly bigot wakes up early and spouts a semi-random proclamation as if he were king, and in his delusional mind he is. Then a number of sycophantic liars and ne'er-do-wells perform frantic and often uncoordinated damage control in an attempt to spin things favorably. Through a limping, shamble-gaited process, they bribe or bluff their way to a compromise with a complicit and self-serving Congress, and then try to carefully supply misinformation back to the king with a lot of mood-manipulation and convince him what happened (good or bad) was what he wanted all along. If he recalls otherwise (and he does not often), his fragile ego prevents him from declaring so because he feels if people say he won, he is perceived as having won, even if they and know otherwise and he knows they know, and he values the appearance of winning above actually winning.

And the next day, it starts over. It is Away of functioning, if not an efficient or efficacious one, and possibly without purpose. Its not supposed to work like that, but it do.
 
2018-02-08 05:02:26 PM  

Munchausen's Proxy: Rapmaster2000: wooden_badger: Uncle Eazy: 200hp out of a 455 with a 4bbl? Is it only using two cylinders?

My little BMW straight-six turbo can do 320hp.

Emission controlled to death.

For the most part that's true when compared to their pre-1972 equivalents.  The 70s and 80s were the malaise days of HP, but there have been some incredible efficiency gains in the past 10 years.  A 2018 Camry V6 can do 0-60 in 5.7 and a 1/4 mile in 14.3.  That's going to run with any top-of-the-line late 60s muscle car.

Transmissions are major factor as well.  Even the Chevy Malibu comes with a 9-speed that shifts ridiculously faster than anything the the 70s.

And then there's the matter of turning.  Ye olden muscle cars are great to look at, but a Ford Fusion would make a 1970 Challenger R/T look silly.

One more thing to consider is that HP numbers from manufacturers in those days were a fantasy.  They'd report things like 500hp, and that was true with an optimally tuned carb and no exhaust.  They were as bad as pre-90s MPG numbers which were also mostly a farce.

You were pretty much right on until the reported HP numbers.  While it may not be the same for the aforementioned 72 Trans Am, the 60s saw the complete opposite.  The big three routinely under advertised HP numbers by significant amounts.  The 69 GTO RAM AIR was advertised at 366, while real world tests put it closer to 410.  The buying public knew when they test drove, but their insurance was based on the factory stated numbers.

Funniest one is Ford rated both the 428 Cobra Jet and 390CID at 335hp.  In stock form, the CJ put out closer to 410hp


Yes, hilarious.  I remember all the standups, killing it at the comedy club with that line.
 
2018-02-08 05:02:33 PM  

dittybopper: Given the state of US car manufacturing in the 1970's, that's probably not what you actually want.


You never ran a 4-barrel Rochester carb on top of a 455 Chevy big-block.
 
2018-02-08 05:05:00 PM  

Ty Webb: Oh good. Another Uncle Joe / muscle car headline. So funny and original.


That Stingray he drives is pretty badass.
 
2018-02-08 05:05:20 PM  
"How does the President not know that one of his top advisors doesn't have a security clearance?"

Joe: heavy sigh, pause, chuckle, attempts to recover, loses it and goes into full laughter......then pulls it together and responds "I'm having enormous difficulty understanding how this White House functions".

Yeah, it's funny.  It's farking hilarious.  If only it wasn't also so goddamn sad.
 
2018-02-08 05:05:45 PM  
It doesn't. That's the point. That's always been the point. The people who elected the stopped-up toilet in the White House did it because they hate America and want to see it be destroyed and replaced with the fourth reich or the new confederacy or Rand Land or whatever the fark those farking morons think would be the perfect world.
 
2018-02-08 05:06:42 PM  

Rapmaster2000: wooden_badger: Uncle Eazy: 200hp out of a 455 with a 4bbl? Is it only using two cylinders?

My little BMW straight-six turbo can do 320hp.

Emission controlled to death.

For the most part that's true when compared to their pre-1972 equivalents.  The 70s and 80s were the malaise days of HP, but there have been some incredible efficiency gains in the past 10 years.  A 2018 Camry V6 can do 0-60 in 5.7 and a 1/4 mile in 14.3.  That's going to run with any top-of-the-line late 60s muscle car.

Transmissions are major factor as well.  Even the Chevy Malibu comes with a 9-speed that shifts ridiculously faster than anything the the 70s.

And then there's the matter of turning.  Ye olden muscle cars are great to look at, but a Ford Fusion would make a 1970 Challenger R/T look silly.

One more thing to consider is that HP numbers from manufacturers in those days were a fantasy.  They'd report things like 500hp, and that was true with an optimally tuned carb and no exhaust.  They were as bad as pre-90s MPG numbers which were also mostly a farce.


Some manufacturers in the 1970s actually understated how much power their cars put out. Chevrolet claimed the L88 only put out 435 HP but in reality it was much more. It allowed corvettes to run 11 second quarter miles in 1969.

https://blog.caranddriver.com/the-500​-​hp-corvette-that-chevrolet-didnt-talk-​about/
 
2018-02-08 05:07:41 PM  
we're new here

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2018-02-08 05:07:49 PM  

Rapmaster2000: wooden_badger: Uncle Eazy: 200hp out of a 455 with a 4bbl? Is it only using two cylinders?

My little BMW straight-six turbo can do 320hp.

Emission controlled to death.

For the most part that's true when compared to their pre-1972 equivalents.  The 70s and 80s were the malaise days of HP, but there have been some incredible efficiency gains in the past 10 years.  A 2018 Camry V6 can do 0-60 in 5.7 and a 1/4 mile in 14.3.  That's going to run with any top-of-the-line late 60s muscle car.

Transmissions are major factor as well.  Even the Chevy Malibu comes with a 9-speed that shifts ridiculously faster than anything the the 70s.

And then there's the matter of turning.  Ye olden muscle cars are great to look at, but a Ford Fusion would make a 1970 Challenger R/T look silly.

One more thing to consider is that HP numbers from manufacturers in those days were a fantasy.  They'd report things like 500hp, and that was true with an optimally tuned carb and no exhaust.  They were as bad as pre-90s MPG numbers which were also mostly a farce.


Often times they even reported numbers with different heads as well.  It wasn't just the 70s smog-control era that made so many muscle cars look neutered.  It was the sae standardization of engine output figures.

Take most of those of those figures and reduce by 40% in many cases
 
2018-02-08 05:08:55 PM  

Serious Black: I understand exactly how this White House runs, Mr. Biden. It runs like a diesel truck whose gas tank is filled with unleaded gas and whose engine is missing the spark plugs.


Diesel engines don't have spark plugs.
 
2018-02-08 05:10:13 PM  

Uncle Eazy: 200hp out of a 455 with a 4bbl? Is it only using two cylinders?

My little BMW straight-six turbo can do 320hp.


But does it have a hemi?  Daaannng!
 
2018-02-08 05:10:54 PM  

NateAsbestos: I have a car. I drive it to work and the grocery store


"And" or "at"?

<g>
 
2018-02-08 05:10:59 PM  

max_pooper: Serious Black: I understand exactly how this White House runs, Mr. Biden. It runs like a diesel truck whose gas tank is filled with unleaded gas and whose engine is missing the spark plugs.

Diesel engines don't have spark plugs.


red230: Diesel engines don't have spark plugs.


The nitwits in the White House don't know that.
 
2018-02-08 05:14:11 PM  
Who, at this point, can feign surprise?


wooden_badger: Uncle Eazy: 200hp out of a 455 with a 4bbl? Is it only using two cylinders?

My little BMW straight-six turbo can do 320hp.

Emission controlled to death.


That, and really lazy/sheitty American engineering.
For reference, I has a 360 small block with a 700cfm spread bore carb that ran something like 220hp/320ft/lb torque stock in 1977.
Big blocks have been pretty much pointless in cars since the mid 1970s
 
2018-02-08 05:14:22 PM  

Serious Black: max_pooper: Serious Black: I understand exactly how this White House runs, Mr. Biden. It runs like a diesel truck whose gas tank is filled with unleaded gas and whose engine is missing the spark plugs.

Diesel engines don't have spark plugs.

red230: Diesel engines don't have spark plugs.

The nitwits in the White House don't know that.


If there were spark plugs in a diesel engine it could run on gasoline.
 
2018-02-08 05:14:33 PM  

Uncle Eazy: 200hp out of a 455 with a 4bbl? Is it only using two cylinders?

My little BMW straight-six turbo can do 320hp.


it was a different time.
 
2018-02-08 05:16:17 PM  
So Biden's rolling out himself for the first round of 'could they make it to 2020?'  I suppose this is to get his name out there, maybe prompt Trump into taking the bait early to establish cred, and possibly see if the GOP can come up with anything to hang on him that may stick.

Of course he's right:  this White House doesn't work.  But as it stands I'm not sure if Biden will be the one who can make the Democrats sing in 2020.  He would make mincemeat out of Trump, however, since Trump really can't fight against anybody who will mock him.  He'll lose the point faster than his hair while getting in a plane.
 
2018-02-08 05:16:57 PM  

UsikFark: Memory lane:

[img.fark.net image 850x478]

Those were the days...


The Days of Slime and Hosers
 
2018-02-08 05:17:46 PM  

Uncle Eazy: 200hp out of a 455 with a 4bbl? Is it only using two cylinders?

My little BMW straight-six turbo can do 320hp.


In reality they made over 300hp and 400 lb/ft torque. The manufactures underrated everything in the 1970s. Here's a link to one in mostly stock form run in a dyno:

http://www.hotrod.com/articles/ho-eng​i​ne-fix-up-part-1/
 
2018-02-08 05:22:18 PM  

max_pooper: Serious Black: max_pooper: Serious Black: I understand exactly how this White House runs, Mr. Biden. It runs like a diesel truck whose gas tank is filled with unleaded gas and whose engine is missing the spark plugs.

Diesel engines don't have spark plugs.

red230: Diesel engines don't have spark plugs.

The nitwits in the White House don't know that.

If there were spark plugs in a diesel engine it could run on gasoline.


Apparently, I'm a farking moron.
 
2018-02-08 05:32:05 PM  

whidbey: God damn it if thread this turns into a "HEY UNCLE JOE SHOULD RUN FOR PRESIDENT" bullshiat....


Why shouldn't he run, unseat Trump in '20 with say Booker or Harris as his VP, then step aside in '24?
 
2018-02-08 05:37:12 PM  
The quotation marks in that headline ended way before I wanted them to.
 
2018-02-08 05:41:05 PM  

Guntram Shatterhand: So Biden's rolling out himself for the first round of 'could they make it to 2020?'  I suppose this is to get his name out there, maybe prompt Trump into taking the bait early to establish cred, and possibly see if the GOP can come up with anything to hang on him that may stick.

Of course he's right:  this White House doesn't work.  But as it stands I'm not sure if Biden will be the one who can make the Democrats sing in 2020.  He would make mincemeat out of Trump, however, since Trump really can't fight against anybody who will mock him.  He'll lose the point faster than his hair while getting in a plane.


If he doesn't plan on running, he can pull the gloves off early while the eventual candidates maintain some decorum. Biden could start a non-profit dedicated to Trump mockery and hire a couple of writers.
 
2018-02-08 05:41:10 PM  

grokca: Something something positrack, mmmmmm Marisa Tomei.


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