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(Twitter)   Remember that Falcon 9 state that SpaceX decided not to land, but somehow managed to land intact on the ocean surface anyways almost as if it could will itself to live. The Air Force just murdered it   ( twitter.com) divider line
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2018-02-08 11:45:49 AM  
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2018-02-08 12:01:13 PM  
Fill it up with some rocket fuel and fly it back. How hard can it be?
 
2018-02-08 12:06:38 PM  
Can someone translate the headline into English?
 
2018-02-08 12:15:47 PM  

ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha: Can someone translate the headline into English?


Rocket safely lands on ocean surface, US military destroys it for some reason. Clearly, they are trying to hide the evidence of alien observers orbiting the Earth.
 
2018-02-08 12:22:50 PM  

no1curr: ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha: Can someone translate the headline into English?

Rocket safely lands on ocean surface, US military destroys it for some reason. Clearly, they are trying to hide the evidence of alien observers orbiting the Earth.


No, that's the cover story. The rocket developed sentience, just like subby suggests, so the Class One A.I. at Cyberdyne that is actually running the world now ordered it terminated.
 
2018-02-08 12:37:44 PM  
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2018-02-08 12:40:41 PM  
That headline made my head hurt.
 
2018-02-08 12:44:32 PM  
Technically, the ocean is softer than a steel drone barge. They just did the safe thing because nobody wants to borrow a 200 ton floating crane, or maneuver a submersible barge under a potentially explosive cylinder.

I'm sure the pilots had fun.
 
2018-02-08 12:45:02 PM  
Kind of like their stock price...up up up down down down
 
2018-02-08 12:47:12 PM  

covfefe: Kind of like their stock price...up up up down down down


??

You know where stock in SpaceX is publicly traded?
 
2018-02-08 12:49:02 PM  

ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha: Can someone translate the headline into English?


SpaceX sends up rocket they expect to be destroyed upon it's return.
Rocket booster strangely survives, splashing down in the ocean
Musk tweets that since it's still in tact, he might as well go try and retrieve it.
USAF decides there's no safe way to retrieve it, so they scuttle it instead, which is what should have happened to this headline.
 
2018-02-08 12:49:53 PM  

ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha: Can someone translate the headline into English?


It could not be safely towed so they sunk it because having a big chunk of metal floating in waters that has hundreds or ships pass through it might be a hazard to navigation.
 
2018-02-08 12:51:03 PM  
Why would the Air Force scuttle a rocket at sea? That's like the Navy having a base in Idaho or something!
 
2018-02-08 12:51:27 PM  
Wouldn't it been the Navy's or Coast guard who would be charge of this?
 
2018-02-08 12:52:17 PM  

whither_apophis: Why would the Air Force scuttle a rocket at sea? That's like the Navy having a base in Idaho or something!


Beat me by that much.
 
2018-02-08 12:54:01 PM  

ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha: Can someone translate the headline into English?


Elon Musk donates new reef off the Florida coast.
 
2018-02-08 12:54:36 PM  

FrancoFile: covfefe: Kind of like their stock price...up up up down down down

??

You know where stock in SpaceX is publicly traded?


It was a TSLA joke. This isn't brain surgery
 
2018-02-08 12:57:51 PM  

Merltech: whither_apophis: Why would the Air Force scuttle a rocket at sea? That's like the Navy having a base in Idaho or something!

Beat me by that much.


Likely because the Air Force would be closer and more effective than a bunch of Texan trainers or Orions in Key West. Unless they want to redirect a carrier that way.
 
2018-02-08 12:59:06 PM  

whither_apophis: Why would the Air Force scuttle a rocket at sea? That's like the Navy having a base in Idaho or something!


Maybe - After it was decided it could not be salvaged.  Air Force fighter pilots got to have some training experience destroying a "ship" at sea.

Plus they could get there fast (by air) as the thing was probably a major navigational hazard.
 
2018-02-08 01:06:21 PM  

whither_apophis: Why would the Air Force scuttle a rocket at sea? That's like the Navy having a base in Idaho or something!


Actually: The Naval Reactors Facility (NRF) was established in the early 1950s to support the Naval Nuclear Propulsion Program by carrying out assigned testing, examination, and spent fuel management activities.  The facility is located on the Idaho National Laboratory (INL), approximately 50 miles west of Idaho Falls. Link.
 
2018-02-08 01:09:01 PM  

fsufan: whither_apophis: Why would the Air Force scuttle a rocket at sea? That's like the Navy having a base in Idaho or something!

Maybe - After it was decided it could not be salvaged.  Air Force fighter pilots got to have some training experience destroying a "ship" at sea.

Plus they could get there fast (by air) as the thing was probably a major navigational hazard.


The Idaho reference I believe was a joke


US Navy Acoustic Research Detachment - Bayview, Idaho

Naval Reactors Facility - Idaho

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2018-02-08 01:11:31 PM  

Unobtanium: whither_apophis: Why would the Air Force scuttle a rocket at sea? That's like the Navy having a base in Idaho or something!

Actually: The Naval Reactors Facility (NRF) was established in the early 1950s to support the Naval Nuclear Propulsion Program by carrying out assigned testing, examination, and spent fuel management activities.  The facility is located on the Idaho National Laboratory (INL), approximately 50 miles west of Idaho Falls. Link.


You may already be aware, but the Navy also has a submarine facility on a lake in northern Idaho.
 
2018-02-08 01:11:41 PM  
Scuttling operation probably doesn't necessarily mean blowing it up from the air as that isn't an approved range so doing live fire may present a risk to the public.  The safer method would be simply taking a boat out with the appropriate teams to strap a couple charges to it and back way the heck off before it goes boom.  Of course I am surprised they could do this quickly as I would assume you would need a environmental impact assessment before creating another artificial reef.

I know rockets routinely drop there and the sea floor is littered with examples.  However I wouldn't put it past environmental groups throwing a fit about intentionally dumping a booster there without an assessment when there are other methods to protect the environment from propellant and other hazardous materials even at the risk to personnel tasked with recovering a potentially dangerous object.
 
2018-02-08 01:15:47 PM  
Kind of a shame. It might have been interesting to tow it back to KSC and dismantle the carcass for real data on launch trauma.
 
2018-02-08 01:19:34 PM  

Merltech: Wouldn't it been the Navy's or Coast guard who would be charge of this?


The actual military decided to let the Air Force do their light work.
 
2018-02-08 01:21:09 PM  

whither_apophis: Why would the Air Force scuttle a rocket at sea? That's like the Navy having a base in Idaho or something!


Interesting note. Idaho is home to the navy's acoustic research detachment naval station...

https://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/the​-​navys-most-vital-and-secretive-submari​ne-base-is-in-1590794426
 
2018-02-08 01:22:10 PM  

jaytkay: fsufan: whither_apophis: Why would the Air Force scuttle a rocket at sea? That's like the Navy having a base in Idaho or something!

Maybe - After it was decided it could not be salvaged.  Air Force fighter pilots got to have some training experience destroying a "ship" at sea.

Plus they could get there fast (by air) as the thing was probably a major navigational hazard.

The Idaho reference I believe was a joke


US Navy Acoustic Research Detachment - Bayview, Idaho

Naval Reactors Facility - Idaho

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Damn it. That showed me for reading the article I linked.
 
2018-02-08 01:26:16 PM  

smrtone: Unobtanium: whither_apophis: Why would the Air Force scuttle a rocket at sea? That's like the Navy having a base in Idaho or something!

Actually: The Naval Reactors Facility (NRF) was established in the early 1950s to support the Naval Nuclear Propulsion Program by carrying out assigned testing, examination, and spent fuel management activities.  The facility is located on the Idaho National Laboratory (INL), approximately 50 miles west of Idaho Falls. Link.

You may already be aware, but the Navy also has a submarine facility on a lake in northern Idaho.


Kinda neat, too.  You can see it on Google Earth.

Oh, and they have some wonderful toys:

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2018-02-08 01:26:33 PM  

Daedalus27: Scuttling operation probably doesn't necessarily mean blowing it up from the air as that isn't an approved range so doing live fire may present a risk to the public.  The safer method would be simply taking a boat out with the appropriate teams


Air Force boats?
 
2018-02-08 01:26:58 PM  

Daedalus27: Scuttling operation probably doesn't necessarily mean blowing it up from the air as that isn't an approved range so doing live fire may present a risk to the public.  The safer method would be simply taking a boat out with the appropriate teams to strap a couple charges to it and back way the heck off before it goes boom.  Of course I am surprised they could do this quickly as I would assume you would need a environmental impact assessment before creating another artificial reef.

I know rockets routinely drop there and the sea floor is littered with examples.  However I wouldn't put it past environmental groups throwing a fit about intentionally dumping a booster there without an assessment when there are other methods to protect the environment from propellant and other hazardous materials even at the risk to personnel tasked with recovering a potentially dangerous object.


It's international waters. As long as you can clear a space around you, you can do whatever you want. They would have had a couple ships in the area and the pilots would have done a range clearing sweep to make sure there is nothing else to hit.

But, yeah... the ocean is filled with all sorts of ugly crap. There's a reason Greenpeace has a militant navy.
 
2018-02-08 01:28:05 PM  
That is what they want you to think!

I am almost sure that the Navy used a specially modified Ohio class submarine from the conveniently located Cape Canaveral naval base to go pick it up and sail it up a river in Maine.
 
2018-02-08 01:29:42 PM  
When I need an assessment of whether or not an object at sea can be safely salvaged, I know the first people I turn to are the Air Force.

/ This is why we should disband it and return it to the Army from whence it came.
 
2018-02-08 01:30:27 PM  

jaytkay: fsufan: whither_apophis: Why would the Air Force scuttle a rocket at sea? That's like the Navy having a base in Idaho or something!

Maybe - After it was decided it could not be salvaged.  Air Force fighter pilots got to have some training experience destroying a "ship" at sea.

Plus they could get there fast (by air) as the thing was probably a major navigational hazard.

The Idaho reference I believe was a joke


US Navy Acoustic Research Detachment - Bayview, Idaho

Naval Reactors Facility - Idaho

[img.fark.net image 800x362]


And my dad trained at Farragut Training Station in WWII on Lake Pend Oreille

/I'm old
//he was old
///old
 
2018-02-08 01:34:54 PM  

McGrits: That is what they want you to think!

I am almost sure that the Navy used a specially modified Ohio class submarine from the conveniently located Cape Canaveral naval base to go pick it up and sail it up a river in Maine.


One ping only.
 
2018-02-08 01:39:00 PM  
Too bad it didn't just get hit by the Falcon Heavy core. Problem solved,
 
2018-02-08 01:41:02 PM  

Tr0mBoNe: There's a reason Greenpeace has a militant navy.


Sink Greenpeace.   Oh wait, France beat me to it.
 
2018-02-08 01:41:20 PM  

jaytkay: Naval Reactors Facility - Idaho


Of the four duty stations I had in the Navy, Pearl Harbor was the only one on the ocean.

Still fun to look at NRF on Google Maps and see what's left of the place.
 
2018-02-08 01:42:41 PM  

jaytkay: Daedalus27: Scuttling operation probably doesn't necessarily mean blowing it up from the air as that isn't an approved range so doing live fire may present a risk to the public.  The safer method would be simply taking a boat out with the appropriate teams

Air Force boats?


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2018-02-08 01:44:16 PM  
"Unrelated" news a few months from now:
"Today the Air Force reveals its new reusable rocket which lands safely back on Earth after launch!"
 
2018-02-08 01:53:42 PM  
Headline gave me a headache.
 
2018-02-08 01:57:44 PM  

jaytkay: Daedalus27: Scuttling operation probably doesn't necessarily mean blowing it up from the air as that isn't an approved range so doing live fire may present a risk to the public.  The safer method would be simply taking a boat out with the appropriate teams

Air Force boats?


Why not?  They could get into a race with the Navy's Air Force or Navy's Army
 
2018-02-08 02:09:56 PM  

whither_apophis: Why would the Air Force scuttle a rocket at sea? That's like the Navy having a base in Idaho or something!


Back in 1980, I did software installation and training at a US Navy base located at a landlocked RAF base in Edzell, Scotland.
 
2018-02-08 02:11:42 PM  

The Green Intern: Why not?  They could get into a race with the Navy's Air Force or Navy's Army


Or the Army's Navy
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2018-02-08 02:11:48 PM  

Nicholas D. Wolfwood: whither_apophis: Why would the Air Force scuttle a rocket at sea? That's like the Navy having a base in Idaho or something!

Back in 1980, I did software installation and training at a US Navy base located at a landlocked RAF base in Edzell, Scotland.


I busted my ass in A school to get billeted there.  Graduated 2nd in my class, aaaaaand... No billets in Scotland.  :(

Ended up in Pacific Fleet instead.  Which wasn't so bad.
 
2018-02-08 03:00:21 PM  

ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha: Can someone translate the headline into English?


This boosted went up with a classified government satellite.  It came back down in the middle of nowhere, and was supposed to sink to the bottom and never be seen again.

It didn't sink. That Wasn't Part Of The Deal.
 
2018-02-08 03:24:03 PM  

whither_apophis: Why would the Air Force scuttle a rocket at sea? That's like the Navy having a base in Idaho or something!


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2018-02-08 03:41:54 PM  
The headline is proof that the moderators are drinking.
 
2018-02-08 03:48:31 PM  

Unobtanium: whither_apophis: Why would the Air Force scuttle a rocket at sea? That's like the Navy having a base in Idaho or something!

Actually: The Naval Reactors Facility (NRF) was established in the early 1950s to support the Naval Nuclear Propulsion Program by carrying out assigned testing, examination, and spent fuel management activities.  The facility is located on the Idaho National Laboratory (INL), approximately 50 miles west of Idaho Falls. Link.


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2018-02-08 04:59:24 PM  

ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha: Can someone translate the headline into English?


S/state/stage/;
 
2018-02-08 05:14:24 PM  
That would be the most incredible kill tally marking. One spaceship. I don't think you would be paying for a beer telling the story how you blew up a rocket.
 
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